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Know your real enemy. [message #113189]

Sun, 05 September 2004 08:24

Fabian
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Colonel

We all think that people on the other side of the fence are stupid and brainwashed. Okay, fine. I for one will stop saying so because it's simply getting old.

With that said, this argument originally started because Riftgarde was listing several things that terrotists or "Islamo-facists" have done. The "Killed hundreds of U.S. Soldiers in Iraq" stood out to me, and felt out of place. Why? Because we invaded their country. Of course we are going to sustain casualties. You have to be able to expect that. People are GOING to retaliate because they don't like our presence, and those people can't see that we are supposedly doing all of this to help Iraq. To list their killings in with other acts of terrorism is almost to call what they are doing terroism (in my eyes at least). Thus, I don't think it belongs there, because I don't think it is terrorism.

As for the "Killed hundreds over the years in Israel", it really boils down to whether or not you believe Jews have a right to have their own country (regardless of whether or not people are already living there). So I don't wish to discuss that further.

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Know your real enemy. [message #113192]

Sun, 05 September 2004 08:57

Nodbugger
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So what would give anyone the right to attack American soldiers?
At this point in history with what are troops are doing. What justifies attacking and killing an American soldier.

Us attacking them, stupid.

We did not go there with the intent to attack them, stupid.

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Know your real enemy. [message #113193]

Sun, 05 September 2004 08:59

Javaxcx
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Definition of Terrorism:

ter·ror·ism    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (tr-rzm)
n. 
The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

Make your own judgments.

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Know your real enemy. [message #113200]

Sun, 05 September 2004 09:34

Fabian
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Colonel

Sounds a lot like the underlying reasons of the US going to war.

Because of recent events and the media, "terrorist" has become synonymous with someone who is from the middle-east. But make no mistake: no one is exempt from terrorism.

Nodbugger

We did not go there with the intent to attack them, stupid.

We didn't go to war with Iraq with the intent of attacking them? Are you serious? You probably just mean the civilians, I know, but intent or not, many are dead because of us.

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Know your real enemy. [message #113201]

Sun, 05 September 2004 09:57

Nodbugger
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We did not go there with the intent to attack them, stupid.

We didn't go to war with Iraq with the intent of attacking them? Are you serious? You probably just mean the civilians, I know, but intent or not, many are dead because of us.

Terrorist has become synonymous with people the do stupid fucking shit that makes us shoot them.

If Saddam would have given up there would not have been a war. Or did you forget that 3 month period where Saddam had the chance? Many are dead because of Saddam. He is the real enemy and for some stupid reason you don't see that.

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Know your real enemy. [message #113225]

Sun, 05 September 2004 13:03

Fabian
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What exactly did Saddam do during that 3 month period? As far as I remember, Saddam and his administration continually claimed that they didn't have any WMD. Turns out they were right...

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Know your real enemy. [message #113227]

Sun, 05 September 2004 13:09

Javaxcx
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It wasn't as much him SAYING he didn't have WMD as much as it was he didn't give complete information to UNMOVIC and related organizations.

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Know your real enemy. [message #113231]

Sun, 05 September 2004 13:13

Fabian
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Colonel

I see. Somehow, that doesn't seem like something to go to war over. And even if he did, I'm sure Bush would find some other reason, especially since there is plenty of evidence that the Bush administration was determined to go to Iraq from the beginning.

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