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| Know your real enemy. [message #112987] |
Sat, 04 September 2004 05:42   |
Riftgarde
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So native american should start bombing places in the United States then?
To the homicide bombers it's not about the land, it's about the Koran, if you don't accept their Koran, you must die.
These fanatics around the world trying to shove their Koran down countries throats will eventually lead to one of said countries shoving a nuclear fission device down their throat. Mecca during the Ramadan might be a good target to an angry country.
The people killing U.S. troops are people importing themselves from surrounding countries. We didn't attack them in those surrounding countries then run back to Iraq with them chasing.
Pick a side, piss someone off, stop getting crotch burns straddling the fence to please and justify all sides. I'm siding with the U.S. military and the people of Israel, if they win, they won't kill me.
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| Know your real enemy. [message #112995] |
Sat, 04 September 2004 07:11 |
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NukeIt15
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There is never any justification for bombing civilian targets. If the Palestinians were truly committed to peace, they would not send bombers into crowded buses, restaurants, nightclubs, and other targets picked solely for the number of defenseless civilians. They might have some claim on credibility if they focused their attention on military targets. Instead, they attack people that cannot fight back with the intention of causing terror in the population. I don't know what definition you use, but that makes them terrorists, and they have murdered thousands of innocent people over the years.
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To the homicide bombers it's not about the land, it's about the Koran, if you don't accept their Koran, you must die.
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The leaders of the terrorists sure don't believe that. Islam is a religion that preaches peace, not "bomb the infidels." They exploit their religion to control their followers.
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These fanatics around the world trying to shove their Koran down countries throats will eventually lead to one of said countries shoving a nuclear fission device down their throat. Mecca during the Ramadan might be a good target to an angry country.
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That would be both a great tragedy and a colossal mistake. Attacking holy sites is no way to defeat a terrorist movement- that would make whatever country dropped the bomb worse than the terrorists they claim to be fighting. The religion is not evil, the people who exploit it for their own ends are, and killing thousands of innocent people in their place of worship would only serve to swell the terrorists' ranks and fuel their anger.
"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived of the use of them." - Thomas Paine
Remember, kids: illiteracy is cool. If you took the time to read this, you are clearly a loser who will never get laid. You've been warned.
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| Know your real enemy. [message #113014] |
Sat, 04 September 2004 10:46 |
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Fabian
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Registered: April 2003
Location: Boston, MA
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So native american should start bombing places in the United States then?
To the homicide bombers it's not about the land, it's about the Koran, if you don't accept their Koran, you must die.
These fanatics around the world trying to shove their Koran down countries throats will eventually lead to one of said countries shoving a nuclear fission device down their throat. Mecca during the Ramadan might be a good target to an angry country.
The people killing U.S. troops are people importing themselves from surrounding countries. We didn't attack them in those surrounding countries then run back to Iraq with them chasing.
Pick a side, piss someone off, stop getting crotch burns straddling the fence to please and justify all sides. I'm siding with the U.S. military and the people of Israel, if they win, they won't kill me.
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All I was saying is that the Palestinian bombers have a cause. Take the 9/11 hijackers: we didn't attack them, we didn't take over their land, they said "Fuck it. They're infidels: We'll attack 'em." The Palestinian bombers are people who are retaliating against people who took their land. I'm not saying what the Palestinian bombers are doing is good, but they have a valid reason to be mad. I see no reason for a Jewish state to be in existance the way it is.
(And Native Americans did hold up some resistance, ya know. They just lost. Native Americans are more peaceful and wouldn't do crazy shit liking strapping a bomb to themselves.)
And I seriously don't see how you can say what people are doing to American troops in Iraq is suprising. Yes, Americans are dieing on account of terrorists in Iraq. But 12,000 (?) Iraqi civilians have been killed by us, and we INVADED THEIR COUNTRY. Of course people are going to retaliate.
Oh, and about your "shoving the Koran down our throats" stuff. I have a muslim friend at school who says that these terrorists have no right to call themselves muslims. They do not represent what the teachings of Islam are about. Ignorant people like you think that all muslims are killers, so you figure we can just bomb Mecca, even though the vast majority of people there aren't in the same mindset as fanatical terrorists.
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| Know your real enemy. [message #113037] |
Sat, 04 September 2004 12:27 |
Riftgarde
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Okay, so 6,000. What's your point?
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That you are pulling numbers out of your ass?
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There is never any justification for bombing civilian targets.
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It ended WWII pretty quick.
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Attacking holy sites is no way to defeat a terrorist movement
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That's why some families have flags instead of their sons instead of flattening the Imam Ali Shrine in Najaf which became a handy bunker for the terrorists.
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All I was saying is that the Palestinian bombers have a cause.
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That's it, encourage them.
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The leaders of the terrorists sure don't believe that. Islam is a religion that preaches peace, not "bomb the infidels." They exploit their religion to control their followers.
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The religion of peace at work in Russia:
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Oh, and about your "shoving the Koran down our throats" stuff. I have a muslim friend at school who says that these terrorists have no right to call themselves muslims. They do not represent what the teachings of Islam are about. Ignorant people like you think that all muslims are killers, so you figure we can just bomb Mecca, even though the vast majority of people there aren't in the same mindset as fanatical terrorists.
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Oh I know they aren't all killers, but after a while of terrorisim and the peaceful muslims never in mass telling the terrorists to stop it or denounce them, some will grow to hate them all.
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| Know your real enemy. [message #113040] |
Sat, 04 September 2004 12:53 |
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Fabian
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Yes, I more or less did pull 12,000/6,000 out of my ass, which I demonstrated by writing "(?)" after the number "12,000". Thank you for noting the obvious. :rolleyes: The important thing is that it is a rather large number.
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That's it, encourage them.
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How the fuck is saying that they are fighting for a cause encouraging them?
You parade around with these pictures of awful killings saying "The religion of peace at work..." and then go ahead saying that you admit they are not all killers. So why post a picture of work done by people that represent a very small fraction of all muslims, and say it is the work of Islam? You can't have it both ways.
And Nodbugger, everytime I read a post of yours I feel my IQ has dropped a point or two. I hate having to baby you through my points because your ignorance just can't seem to absoarb it all: We invaded Iraq. Of course there will be resistance as people need to defend themselves and retaliate.
Riftgarde, if someone punched you in the face, and you punched them back, and everyone now hated you because you retaliated, would you see that as fair? If you start trouble, you ought to expect trouble in return...plain and simple. To call American casualties in Iraq due to retaliations an act of terrorism is silly. After all, it is us who went to Iraq. No one invited us.
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Oh I know they aren't all killers, but after a while of terrorisim and the peaceful muslims never in mass telling the terrorists to stop it or denounce them, some will grow to hate them all.
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Wow. So people grow to hate all muslims because they do not publicly denounce acts of terrorism that they weren't even involved in? These "people" sound a lot like asshats to me... :rolleyes:
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| Know your real enemy. [message #113165] |
Sun, 05 September 2004 05:08 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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Ya, because blowing up a car in the middle of Rush hour in the most populated city in the country is in their defense.
Give me a break. Do you actually believe yourself? These people don't care about Iraq or the Iraqi people. They are murderers and they should all be killed.
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Geez, that sure does sound brainwashed. And no, these people still fight us largely with AK-47s.
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| Know your real enemy. [message #113177] |
Sun, 05 September 2004 07:10 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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So what would give anyone the right to attack American soldiers?
At this point in history with what are troops are doing. What justifies attacking and killing an American soldier.
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Us attacking them, stupid.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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