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mhmm.. [message #111975] Mon, 30 August 2004 14:08 Go to next message
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I just noticed this.

vloktboky

I'm tired of it all. I'm tired of the constant whining and utter nonsense that this game produces on a daily bases. I'm tired of joining a server and having to deal with constant cheating accusations and cheaters in the same. I'm tired of working hard and getting a "good job" from a few people, no more, no less. I'm tired of hearing people announce that I have done nothing for this game, and then turn around and use my work on their servers. I'm tired of being lied to, being humiliated because of the network I chose to be apart of, and being lied to and deceived to all just to get something that wasn't theirs or anyone else's in any moral understanding in the first place. I'm tired of hearing the network that I helped to build being called "the worst thing to come to Renegade", and then seeing those same people beg for my release of Dragonade, even though half of the stuff that they crave isn't even found in that part of the package, at least not all of it. I'm tired of being harassed for doing my job. I'm tired of hearing people complain about how it is not our right to refuse them access to what we pay hard cash for in the first place, areas that they have no legal right to be at, and are only there because we allow them to come. I'm tired of seeing people walk right on past our wishes and further disrespect us by evading bans or coming on to our servers and ruining the fun for others just to "get revenge". I'm tired of seeing others stick up for those who have done what I have stated because they felt it was a just cause. I'm tired of seeing what is left of this community drop further and further into a hellish pit that it can not crawl itself out of, no matter who or what comes along. I'm tired of seeing almost an entire year of ground breaking discoveries and hard work get pissed on and ignored, or claimed by another who wouldn't have been able to do what they managed to replicate if it weren't for me in the first place. I'm tired of the constant server attacks and the waste of money they produce. I'm tired of spending my time off away from school and work to put effort into a dying game that only cares about me when I have "new toys" for them to play with. I'm tired of seeing people blindly follow one pack because of who is in charge of said pack, and not give a damn about logic that shows there are others in this "community" that can do just as much, if not more, when given the chance. I'm tired of seeing one person who feels they have the whole world in their hands rule their domain with an iron fist, who feel their words are the final judgement in any situation, and who feels when they say enough is enough, everyone else must shut up. One who doesn't understand the phrase, "My house is your house," and only exist to feed off of the power their reputation has given them. One who feels they truly are the leader of a dying game. My words to that person: You can have it, because nobody else wants it.

I'm tired of saying, "I'm tired," but feel that I must keep up this repetitive form of speech to further get my message across that nobody cares to read in the first place, except those who frequent this server and understand what I have done for everyone. Most of all, I'm flat out tired and disgusted with the figures that keep this game up and running. There are only a few hand picked individuals that deserve any form of recognition what-so-ever, and the rest are better off rotting in Hell. No, wait a minute, they already are.

To the mods that I have released: They are in their final stage. You have the source code to them, so if you want something changed/added/fixed, do it yourself or find someone that can do it for you, and pray that they don't find you any more obnoxious than I do.

To the mods on our servers: They are in their final stage. If a critical bug is found, I'll fix it, but there won't be any more additions to it unless WD puts them in.

To those who want the mods from our servers: No. You weren't deserving enough for what I did give to you; therefore, I will not waste my time giving you something that I poured months of hard work, tears, and sweat in to. I don't care what your self-centered head in your own little world things you deserve. In mine, you don't deserve it, and since mine is more important than yours in this situation, you won't be getting it.

To those who have played in the servers hosted by the network I call my second home: I thank you for showing your support. Continue to have fun with my work, for you are the only ones out of this entire, pathetic game that really did care about what I did. You may have bitched about a few changes, but at least you understood why I made those changes and quickly got over it instead of carrying on like a bunch of children. (Do look at how other networks and smaller communities manage their public relations)

To those who choose not to play in our servers: You are too much of a broad population to speak about, but the majority of you are understanding. Do what you want to do, not what some hotshot says you should do. Think with your mind, not theirs. Make your own choices, and deal with the consequences that may follow with them. To those who have not followed this path, I pity you. That means nothing to you, I'm sure; but, I am not the only one who feels this way. Only your own kind agrees with you, and they are but a tiny spec in the real world. Shape up, or you'll be in for quite a rude awakening.

If you want to follow me, I'll be traveling to my new home. I'll still be on IRC if you need to contact me, but I'll only be in the mod channel and two others that do not concern you. I'll also keep an eye on the forums, but not to enforce moderation or answer questions. Dead6 will always be the game that never was: built on a new engine, made with new support and new opportunities, but most of all, built for a new community to appreciate it. Keep your eye out for this one, and do drop in later on down the road. I promise you, you will not regret it.

To those I share respect for, keep up the good work and do what you wish, but I advise you not to spend too much more time on this game. To everyone else, remember me by these words: "Grow up." Do try something else, for I'm sure if you got in the water, you'd see there is more to the beach than sun bathing.

Most of all, to those who have hurt me in the past for trying to help this game, you are the bunch out of them all that are not worth my time. It is a waste to try to reason with you. Even stating your names aren't worth it. I know who I am talking about, you know that I am talking about you, and everyone else knows who this pointless paragraph is directed towards. If you want to announce that I haven't done anything for this game, go right on ahead; but, the next time you get on WOL or GSA, or any other third-party host, take a look at all the sniper only servers running SSM, or all the CTF servers that wouldn't be there if it weren't for me, or all of the other servers who are running SSAOW, and taking full advantage of it. I've left my impression on this game. For you to denounce that is what one might define as "living in your own, little world." I've done more for this game and these people than you ever have, and yet, they praise your name more than my own for what you did to me. Seems illogical right? Not to these people, and that is why I am leaving, and that is why I advise anyone reading this right now to do the same.

Good day.


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mhmm.. [message #111980] Mon, 30 August 2004 14:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh boo fucking hoo. It's a game. It's the internet. He's the one who needs to grow the fuck up. All I read was "*cry* I can't get the praise that I think I deserve so I'm gonna leave. *sniff* Nothing good is coming out of my efforts, so I no longer feel interested in participating in the game. The big bad online people hurt my feelings, so now I'm gonna go cry in my own little corner."

He lost ALL of my sympathy when he said this, "I'm tired of working hard and getting a "good job" from a few people, no more, no less." That quote proves to me that he did it all for the praise. That's not how you go about doing things. In real life you do things for 2 reasons: 1. It's absolutely necessary to your health (work, sleep, breathing, etc...) 2. Because you enjoy it. You don't do stuff to get praise, if you do then you're a self-centered prick.


whoa.
mhmm.. [message #111983] Mon, 30 August 2004 14:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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*cough*

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mhmm.. [message #112121] Mon, 30 August 2004 20:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nonetheless, this still saddens me... :-\

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mhmm.. [message #112124] Mon, 30 August 2004 20:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Unfortunate. He didn't do a good job... he did a GREAT job. The CTF mod and the Snipers-only mod are excellent and much-needed additions to this game.

You can't be in this for the ass-kissing and the "atta boys", most days it doesn't come. Personally, I am in this because I think Renegade is a fantastic, addictive game with plenty of potential, not the least of which is seen in RenAlert and of course in vlokt's mods.

See ya.


I'm the bawss.
mhmm.. [message #112130] Mon, 30 August 2004 20:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I dont really get it either. Hell I would rather have no priase for my work than it being shit on everytime. Wink But my working with Renedage is based on the second reason by jb, I enjoy it. Razz
mhmm.. [message #112134] Mon, 30 August 2004 21:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Crimson

Unfortunate. He didn't do a good job... he did a GREAT job. The CTF mod and the Snipers-only mod are excellent and much-needed additions to this game.

You can't be in this for the ass-kissing and the "atta boys", most days it doesn't come. Personally, I am in this because I think Renegade is a fantastic, addictive game with plenty of potential, not the least of which is seen in RenAlert and of course in vlokt's mods.

See ya.

He did do a good job, and deserved some praise, but like you said, you can't be in it for the ass-kissing and the "atta boys".


whoa.
mhmm.. [message #112135] Mon, 30 August 2004 21:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sounds to me like he is just stressed/burned out. I would suggest he take a break from Renegade and come back when he wants to. Lots of people have announced they were leaving Renegade, but as we all know Renegade is addicting and draws you back in sooner or later Smile His entire post pretty much sounded like he was just blowing off steam/frustration, although I don't agree with his "Im leaving Renegade and so should you" message.
mhmm.. [message #112139] Mon, 30 August 2004 21:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I didn't install Renegade even when I had the chance because I had no reason to, but one person made me install it. He made me a mod on his server so it obviously drew me into wanting to play again. Scamp, please come up and take a bow.....anyways...yeah. I'm back now, but I honestly did not have any desire to come back until I was a moderator.

This really had no relevance other than to show that I came back, but not because I missed it so much. Very Happy


whoa.
mhmm.. [message #112140] Mon, 30 August 2004 21:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Halo2 comes out Nov 9th...





vloktboky, we're running your scripts, and they kick ass... but you already know that..
mhmm.. [message #112146] Mon, 30 August 2004 22:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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but as we all know Renegade is addicting and draws you back in sooner or later


The effect is different for different people. For me it's repulsive and makes me want to throw up when I play it... So I don't play anymore.
mhmm.. [message #112154] Tue, 31 August 2004 01:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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He's not saying he just wants praise, he is telling us he's tired of his great work being shit on, which I agree upon. Eventually I'll follow him into another community, but that won't be until a while.
mhmm.. [message #112175] Tue, 31 August 2004 06:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I thought he posted this months ago?

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mhmm.. [message #112179] Tue, 31 August 2004 08:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Most places you go on games, there will be someone out there what wont like wot you do if you make a big mod or so. It happens.

If vlok wasn't around, we may have seen someone else make the scripts, we may not have. Thats just life.

But there are very good scripts, and have made others out there try and re-create there own.
mhmm.. [message #112195] Tue, 31 August 2004 10:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Crimson

Unfortunate. He didn't do a good job... he did a GREAT job. The CTF mod and the Snipers-only mod are excellent and much-needed additions to this game.

You can't be in this for the ass-kissing and the "atta boys", most days it doesn't come. Personally, I am in this because I think Renegade is a fantastic, addictive game with plenty of potential, not the least of which is seen in RenAlert and of course in vlokt's mods.

See ya.

He did do a good job, and deserved some praise, but like you said, you can't be in it for the ass-kissing and the "atta boys".
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Get that out of your sig.. it's not staying dead. Razz


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So when do we expect to see him back?









I'm betting $50 in 2 weeks or under.


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mhmm.. [message #112278] Tue, 31 August 2004 15:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The effect is different for different people. For me it's repulsive and makes me want to throw up when I play it... So I don't play anymore.


Same here, except I can't stand anything on the renegade engine anymore.

I didn't really know vlokt, or any of his acheivements, but I do think it is kind of tacky to "leave" a community with a big, long letter.

"I'm out" would have done it.


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mhmm.. [message #112282] Tue, 31 August 2004 15:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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vlokt can post on our own forums to tell people who know him and work with him his feelings all he'd like, he isn't the one that posted it here for all of you to critique him. his greatest friend xptek (apparently, if you break the rules and evade your ban enough times, the admins here will just give up) posted it here with i am sure all the greatest intentions in the world.
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You know what? Shove it. It's something that does concern the renegade community, and if you havn't noticed; most people that posted are giving vlokt the credit he deserves.

whoa.
mhmm.. [message #112287] Tue, 31 August 2004 16:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh so hes leaving, didnt know that (Post is too long for me Razz ) I enjoyed his work. Personally I hope he will be back. As for you louis STFU please Smile
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louis

vlokt can post on our own forums to tell people who know him and work with him his feelings all he'd like, he isn't the one that posted it here for all of you to critique him. his greatest friend xptek (apparently, if you break the rules and evade your ban enough times, the admins here will just give up) posted it here with i am sure all the greatest intentions in the world.


Crimson made her own decision not to ban me. But, we could always do the whole "This is not NS" argument again. He deserves the credit he got and nothing more.


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mhmm.. [message #112292] Tue, 31 August 2004 16:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i was talking to panther and his saying that it was "tacky" for the most part, so you two lackeys can run along.
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But when you put "all of you" that makes it directed towards everyone. If you don't want to be misunderstood, post something that makes sense.

whoa.
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xptek posted it here with i am sure all the greatest intentions in the world.

"We report, you decide."


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