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| Cheaters & RenGuard? [message #111386] |
Sat, 28 August 2004 12:26   |
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by_ruddles
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Registered: September 2003
Location: UK
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Well, we started running renguard (full, no semi-renguard) and I can be sure that we have never had less cheats on the server. Why? 'Cos pretty much no fecker comes on. 2 24 player server, and for 2 minutes we had 10 players in total. On both server. Overall. Keep in mind before we started running renguard we had 2 24 player servers that between 7 in the morning and midnight rarely had less then 20 players per server on them.
The rest of the time they have both been empty. Im all for anti-cheat, but its only as good as the number of people that use it. Now we have 2 options, either keep running it and pay for servers no one uses, or stop running it and have full servers that we have to do some actual admin work on.
So while some of you look at the renegade community from your high horse, calling every server owner that doesn't run renguard n00bs or other such hilarious names, just remember that some of us are trying to do our part to clean the game up, but getting nowhere fast. So thanks for all your help on the matter. Abuse and pointless name calling really help motivate people. :rolleyes:
But hell, what do other servers matter eh? Not like a community is suppose to help each other, work together and achieve something worthwhile. No, this one seems to be here for a few people to get their daily fix of 1337-ism, even if it is in a community that is dwindling in numbers. Hell, what does it matter if you flame that new person for the skin they finally made and are proud of. Its not like constructive criticism would help them or anything. Hell, if they never come back what does it matter, its not like a community needs fresh ideas and new people to carry on. Not like any of you were ever new to all this (I digress, but its just something I’ve noticed).
But please, feel free to look down on this post and FACT servers because we are struggling to be anti-cheat. Maybe attempt a nice flame war, or just point out my spelling mistakes. Don't feel I have the slightest valid point in all this. After all we have only been running 3 months, what possible contribution could Fireon make to a 1337 group of people such as you eh?
My BRenBot Control Pannel: BRCP .
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| Cheaters & RenGuard? [message #111412] |
Sat, 28 August 2004 13:51 |
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cheesesoda
Messages: 6507
Registered: March 2003
Location: Jackson, Michigan
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Most server runners are mature people, who are able to make their own decisions. Whether they want to run full RG, semi-RG or no RG at all is their own business, and I doubt these "If you don't run RG this happens you you" -threads are going to change anything, except create more arguments (*Looks at Zunnie*  ). I do understand that you're working hard to promote RG, which is a good thing, but don't do it in the wrong way.
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MOST server runners are mature. A lot of server owners are running servers only because they have the money for it.
Most server owners don't want to run RenGuard because their servers will be empty. Well, instead of saying "fuck it" and staying away from RenGuard, stand strong and help promote RenGuard.
whoa.
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| Cheaters & RenGuard? [message #111738] |
Sun, 29 August 2004 14:44 |
SuperTech
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Registered: March 2003
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I have to say the reasons given for not running RenGuard in this thread are pretty lame. The best reason given that I saw was "because it's my server and I can do with it what I want". Where is the spirit of fair game play? On the servers I have been on without RenGuard, the moderators are usually not there. Everyone usually gets pretty pissed and leaves when ONE PERSON ruins the WHOLE game for 40 people. If it weren't for RenGuard, I think everyone would eventually fold up shop on Renegade or engage in "cheat vs. cheat" tactics. Actually, "cheaters vs. cheaters" might be interesting to watch: no one can advance because everyone can blow the crap out of everyone else!
There, I had my say. 
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