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The Beacon Pedistal.... Cheap Sh!t or good combaq stratagy [message #110017] Wed, 25 August 2004 08:17 Go to next message
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This thing is annoying 4 a team that destroy half of the emeny base then lose because some 1 placed it on the ped. But on the other hand this can redeem a team who had its base nearly destroyed. So im wondering what other ppl think about this powerful yet cheap startagy.
The Beacon Pedistal.... Cheap Sh!t or good combaq stratagy [message #110020] Wed, 25 August 2004 08:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Depends on the situation. I generally consider it cheap (it's actually disabled on my servers), but if you can't defend one tiny area of your base... well, that's kinda sad
The Beacon Pedistal.... Cheap Sh!t or good combaq stratagy [message #110023] Wed, 25 August 2004 08:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Pedistal beaconing is a good call in my books. Take walls_flying, for example. If you're on GDI, and you're getting the smack kicked out of you by Nod and are down to something like a Power Plant and no "advanced" characters, if you can force the enemy to remember "when you attack, your base is unguarded", then it's by all means a valid tactic.

Besides, if you can take on a whole base of vehicles and "advanced" characters with something like an engineer, and still get off the beacon the pedistal, you deserve to win anyway.



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The Beacon Pedistal.... Cheap Sh!t or good combaq stratagy [message #110026] Wed, 25 August 2004 08:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When you say "remember", do you mean "forget"?
The Beacon Pedistal.... Cheap Sh!t or good combaq stratagy [message #110029] Wed, 25 August 2004 09:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nope. Remember.


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The Beacon Pedistal.... Cheap Sh!t or good combaq stratagy [message #110041] Wed, 25 August 2004 11:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Having that last "beacon" of hope (if you will) to win the game when you're team is getting thrashed is just one of those sweet victories. I would never disable it.

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The Beacon Pedistal.... Cheap Sh!t or good combaq stratagy [message #110062] Wed, 25 August 2004 11:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Having that last "beacon" of hope (if you will) to win the game when you're team is getting thrashed is just one of those sweet victories. I would never disable it.
Yeah and it feels damn good when you're the one who has placed that nuke/ion Smile
The Beacon Pedistal.... Cheap Sh!t or good combaq stratagy [message #110126] Wed, 25 August 2004 16:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I no what u mean especially on walls flying on nod if u have half or less a base left due to GDI's rushes. And giving a sigh a relief to each of ur team8s because the slow and painful loss is over.
The Beacon Pedistal.... Cheap Sh!t or good combaq stratagy [message #110290] Thu, 26 August 2004 03:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Valid tactic, nothing wrong with it. If you can waltz into the barracks or hand and stick a beacon on the first place a noob would think of then fine.

Does take the Michael somewhat when you hear "Nuclear strike beacon detected" or whatever it says about 15 times though.. but it works, ever tried disabling 8-10 beacons?


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Re: The Beacon Pedistal.... Cheap Sh!t or good combaq strat [message #111427] Sat, 28 August 2004 15:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This thing is annoying 4 a team that destroy half of the emeny base then lose because some 1 placed it on the ped. But on the other hand this can redeem a team who had its base nearly destroyed. So im wondering what other ppl think about this powerful yet cheap startagy.


I don't consider this cheap at all: it's part of the game. The only people that seem to think its cheap are the losers. If you properly mine, they won't be able to do it.
The Beacon Pedistal.... Cheap Sh!t or good combaq stratagy [message #111451] Sat, 28 August 2004 17:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't think it's cheap. With ped beacons on, it gives the losing team a small hope of winning. Even though it is small, it will make them fight longer. Now that could be a bad thing or a good thing, but at least they have hope Laughing
The Beacon Pedistal.... Cheap Sh!t or good combaq stratagy [message #112115] Mon, 30 August 2004 19:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I see it both ways.

good = getting your arse kicked and someone ped beaconing

the thing i hate is when i've killed 1/2 of a base and my teammate runs in and ped beacons. That's just shit and cowardly. Also the ped should be disabled till a set instance occours.Eg: your team loses 2 buildings or game goes past the 15 min mark. who knows that's just my opinion and everyone has one of those.
The Beacon Pedistal.... Cheap Sh!t or good combaq stratagy [message #112117] Mon, 30 August 2004 20:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's cheap when it's a win based on luck instead of skill...

If you sneak into base, disarm mines, lay your ped nuke and fight off a mob of hotwires, that's skill... If you sneak into base as an SBH and the barracks and ped mines are gone because some noob overmined, that's luck
The Beacon Pedistal.... Cheap Sh!t or good combaq stratagy [message #112118] Mon, 30 August 2004 20:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think in games over 16v16 it should be enabled, if you can't defend then...well you deserve it. It takes 2 people to defend on walls flying to stop a building from dieing ( at least nod )

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The Beacon Pedistal.... Cheap Sh!t or good combaq stratagy [message #112462] Wed, 01 September 2004 11:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's lame and has nothing to do with C&C. The game should be about building destruction, not lameass gimmicks where you plant something in "TEH SPECIAL SPOTZ THAT KILLZORZ TEH BAZE!!"
The Beacon Pedistal.... Cheap Sh!t or good combaq stratagy [message #112466] Wed, 01 September 2004 11:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Some missions in various C&C games had a particular building you might need to capture... Admittedly that wasn't in multiplayer but the pedestal probably represents that
The Beacon Pedistal.... Cheap Sh!t or good combaq stratagy [message #112467] Wed, 01 September 2004 11:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think it's a valid tactic and it adds some depth to the game. What I usually do (or at least try to do) is destroy the HON/Barracks first. That way people usually don't bother remining it.
The Beacon Pedistal.... Cheap Sh!t or good combaq stratagy [message #112923] Fri, 03 September 2004 18:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's not a cheap, and lameass tactic. I prefer to nuke/ion any hon/barrx with 8 to ten people then me having it to do it alone, that way the can't disarm it. Also, try and defend it with your character, so they can get distracted by you and the hon will get destroyed.

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The Beacon Pedistal.... Cheap Sh!t or good combaq stratagy [message #113261] Sun, 05 September 2004 16:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It was an intentional feature in the game, and it is not cheap or unfair. It isn't that hard to spot a beacon being placed on the pedestal- it is placed so that it is easy to see- if you're Nod, you can even watch the twerp planting the thing from halfway across the base. If you lose to a ped beacon, well, good for the other team. And if you don't like the idea of your whole base being smeared in one strike, just play in a server with the option turned off. If you want it to happen later in the game, set the starting cash low. It's that simple.

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The Beacon Pedistal.... Cheap Sh!t or good combaq stratagy [message #113296] Sun, 05 September 2004 21:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Exactly, it is not that hard to mine a building. Ped is cheap in small servers though.

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The Beacon Pedistal.... Cheap Sh!t or good combaq stratagy [message #113321] Mon, 06 September 2004 07:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Its cheap, its lucky, its n00bish. Dont Do it

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The Beacon Pedistal.... Cheap Sh!t or good combaq stratagy [message #113377] Mon, 06 September 2004 13:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just today on Complex:
the game was 3v3 and i was on Nod
The game was something like 10 mins in and nothing was destroyed yet. and i was mining the base like i usually do then when i go to do the hon i hear an ion being planted. I see its on the ped. then I get killed trying to reapair it then my team loses. That's the cheap part of the ped beacon in my opinion.
The Beacon Pedistal.... Cheap Sh!t or good combaq stratagy [message #114464] Mon, 13 September 2004 20:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Having that last "beacon" of hope (if you will) to win the game when you're team is getting thrashed is just one of those sweet victories. I would never disable it.
Yeah and it feels damn good when you're the one who has placed that nuke/ion Smile



its quite a rush too Smile

ive done this 3 or 4 times on maps like islands and walls_flying

works great
The Beacon Pedistal.... Cheap Sh!t or good combaq stratagy [message #117780] Fri, 01 October 2004 21:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's a good stragety for the game, but what's cheap about it is that there is no realism involved in it and that's always bothered me. Think about it, a nuke striking one small little area in the base, destroying everyone and everything, winning the game for that team. Doesn't make much sense at all.
The Beacon Pedistal.... Cheap Sh!t or good combaq stratagy [message #117798] Sat, 02 October 2004 02:28 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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If you're playing Renegade for the realism aspect, then you picked the wrong game.

I think the beacon pedestal is a valid tactic if your team has nothing left to lose (i.e. you lost the wf/strip and/or barracks/hand) and is faced with overwhelming odds.

However, I think they could have implemented it better. The pedestal should only become active when a team has lost both production facilities.

Anyway, if you don't like it, play on servers where it's disabled. Problem solved.


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