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Is Renguard a failure? [message #109083]

Fri, 20 August 2004 17:50

Sunwarr
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Only reason i play C&C Renegade is becuase of Rengaurd. I'm an old player back when it was just a demo.

I was turned of by it on 2003 when it started to get really crazy with cheaters on servers and the server admit couldn't even do crap about it.

Med tanks blowing up in one hit .
God mode where you can go to the enemy's base , blow it up and the defences wouldn't even shoot you.
Big heads
Using the snipergun to kill ordered vechiles in one shot wouldn't even get on the airstrip in time. Only seeing explosions but no vechiles.
Pistols killing med tanks.
Aimbots
expliots
Killing black hands while they stand.
Cheaters crashing the servers.

This was on every server so i decided to quit then came back this year becuase i heard they made a new anti sofrware cheat for C&C Renegade.

I only play on RG servers now thanks to Rengaurd Smile

Smile

any other server with out Rengaurd is a cheat server.

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Is Renguard a failure? [message #109089]

Fri, 20 August 2004 18:44

cowmisfit
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Registered: May 2003

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RenGuard is not a failure, it stops cheating and does its job. Yes a lot of servers have gone emptey since Renguard came out, BUT the way i look at it is this....

If you have nothing to hide it shouldn't be a problem. So anyone who says "Im not gonna play on that server because its Renguard" must have something to hide or are just a plain jackass. Exclamation

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Is Renguard a failure? [message #109102]

Fri, 20 August 2004 21:18

IceSword7
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Registered: February 2003
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Colonel

Wow nice sig, did you make that?

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Is Renguard a failure? [message #109128]

Sat, 21 August 2004 05:00

cowmisfit
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yes i did, thank you.

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Is Renguard a failure? [message #109129]

Sat, 21 August 2004 05:05

flyingfox
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Sunwarr

any other server with out Rengaurd is a cheat server.

Ignorance at it's very finest. And by the way, renguard happens to hit your FPS by like 3, so there's 1 reason off-hand not to use it.

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Is Renguard a failure? [message #109130]

Sat, 21 August 2004 05:21

cowmisfit
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Loosing 3 fps is not gonna effect your gameplay enough not to use it. Its jackasses like you who tell people stupid crap like taht that people won't use it.

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Is Renguard a failure? [message #109135]

Sat, 21 August 2004 06:45

[RoC]Twix
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Yes it was a failure, after 3 days of the release people had figured out how to cheat with it. and btw, ACK, your gay and so is renalert.

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Is Renguard a failure? [message #109136]

Sat, 21 August 2004 06:49

[RoC]Twix
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Blazer

Alkaline

This game is not worth having its own anticheat system becuase of all the other crap that outs thier like server exploits.

Ya you kick/ban somone, they crash your server how nice is that :rolleyes:
screw it mang, its not worth it anymore...

Then you are promoting terrorism by letting them get their way. I would rather my server be down for a week of DDOS than to let cheaters run rampant ruining everyones game.

Blazer, dont even compare a cheater in renegade to terrorists. my god.

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Is Renguard a failure? [message #109167]

Sat, 21 August 2004 12:00

WNxCABAL
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[RoC

Twix]and btw, ACK, your gay and so is renalert.

Can I buy you a beer? Laughing

Laughing

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Is Renguard a failure? [message #109173]

Sat, 21 August 2004 13:26

icedog90
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RenGuard is not a failure. It used to be a ton worse with the amount of people who had it. Notice that every new patch brings more and more players to RenGuard.

I know someone who claims a friend of his sent him a cheat that gets through RenGuard. I'll have ask him more about it.

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Is Renguard a failure? [message #109192]

Sat, 21 August 2004 15:33

Blazer
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Location: Phoenix, AZ

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[RoC

Twix]

Blazer

Alkaline

This game is not worth having its own anticheat system becuase of all the other crap that outs thier like server exploits.

Ya you kick/ban somone, they crash your server how nice is that :rolleyes:
screw it mang, its not worth it anymore...

Then you are promoting terrorism by letting them get their way. I would rather my server be down for a week of DDOS than to let cheaters run rampant ruining everyones game.

Blazer, dont even compare a cheater in renegade to terrorists. my god.

Terrorism is just a word, so is terrorists. It has a very broad meaning that can apply to a number of situations, just becasue someone says "terrorist" does not mean it has anything to do with Sept 11 and the like. :rolleyes:

By terrorism I meant the basic premise of someone using violence or threats of violence to ensure their desired outcome. If someone says "free all the iraqi hostages or we will behead this prisoner", thats terrorism. If someone says "let me cheat in your server or I will crash it", that is also terrorism. There was no comparison made.

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Is Renguard a failure? [message #109204]

Sat, 21 August 2004 16:21

cheesesoda
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Registered: March 2003
Location: Jackson, Michigan

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[RoC

Twix]Yes it was a failure, after 3 days of the release people had figured out how to cheat with it. and btw, ACK, your gay and so is renalert.

Thank you for that post. Now I remember why I think you're an idiot.

whoa.

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Is Renguard a failure? [message #109237]

Sat, 21 August 2004 19:23

[RoC]Twix
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Blazer

[RoC

Twix]

Blazer

Alkaline

This game is not worth having its own anticheat system becuase of all the other crap that outs thier like server exploits.

Ya you kick/ban somone, they crash your server how nice is that :rolleyes:
screw it mang, its not worth it anymore...

Then you are promoting terrorism by letting them get their way. I would rather my server be down for a week of DDOS than to let cheaters run rampant ruining everyones game.

Blazer, dont even compare a cheater in renegade to terrorists. my god.

Terrorism is just a word, so is terrorists. It has a very broad meaning that can apply to a number of situations, just becasue someone says "terrorist" does not mean it has anything to do with Sept 11 and the like. :rolleyes:

By terrorism I meant the basic premise of someone using violence or threats of violence to ensure their desired outcome. If someone says "free all the iraqi hostages or we will behead this prisoner", thats terrorism. If someone says "let me cheat in your server or I will crash it", that is also terrorism. There was no comparison made.

i understand what you mean now but i still disagree. i see how alk would rather have a cheater for a game or 2 than his server getting DDOS attack and going down for a while, they pay money for the servers so i agree with alk

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Is Renguard a failure? [message #109242]

Sat, 21 August 2004 19:45

cheesesoda
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Other server owners pay money for their servers too. It's just the principle of it. No cheaters, period. By telling people that you'd rather have a cheater than DDoSing a site, you're letting cheaters hold all the cards. They know that you don't want the server down, so they'll throw it in your face. They may just come out and say, "don't kick me and I won't crash your server."

It happened one time at UGIN server 4. Some guy promised that he would crash the server if he was kicked. He was eventually banned for cheating, and crashed the server. I chose not to let him to push me around. There's no reason to let people openly cheat in fear your server is going down. Your server probably will be crashed, but you'll at least know that you didn't let him push you around. I took a stand and I'd do it again.

whoa.

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Is Renguard a failure? [message #109380]

Sun, 22 August 2004 09:29

Dethdeath
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I'd rather have no server than to be forced to play with cheaters in the game... Simply because it takes the whole reason of me playing away.

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Is Renguard a failure? [message #109423]

Sun, 22 August 2004 12:04

Crimson
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Me, too. I don't want to host servers for cheaters.

I'm the bawss.

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Is Renguard a failure? [message #109425]

Sun, 22 August 2004 12:10

[RoC]Twix
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j_ball430, your face is so far up the renguards teams ass its amazing

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Is Renguard a failure? [message #109434]

Sun, 22 August 2004 13:02

U927
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Registered: February 2003
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Colonel

Aww, resorting to ad hominem so early in the argument?

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act but a habit. - Aristotle

8-Bit Theatre. The power of evil compels you!

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Is Renguard a failure? [message #109473]

Sun, 22 August 2004 16:01

cowmisfit
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[RoC

Twix]j_ball430, your face is so far up the renguards teams ass its amazing

Go to hell kthx.

He's just not a moron and relizes what is and is not a failure, moron.

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Is Renguard a failure? [message #109488]

Sun, 22 August 2004 17:27

Blazer
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Okay this is turning into flamefest so I must perform lockage. Final word: Renguard is certainly not a failure. It stops cheating.

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