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Thu, 29 July 2004 04:42   |
mahkra
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Most people don't play RenAlert. To me, that seems like evidence that they hate it.
I was merely paraphrasing myself because it gets boring to say the same thing over and over again.
EDIT: Another thing I forgot to mention here: parallel sentence structure. I only orignially used the term "hate" because that's the term ACK used. In other words, I was using ACK's own wording to make fun of him. (I think that should be obvious to anyone who can read above a 3rd grade level.)
I'm not changing my story at all if I say "don't like" or "don't care about." All I'm doing is varying the language I use. You may notice that the important part of the sentences, "the majority," remains the same.
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Thu, 29 July 2004 10:34 |
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NeoSaber
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| mahkra |
Most people don't play RenAlert. To me, that seems like evidence that they hate it.
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Which is where you're wrong. People don't play for a variety of reasons. Although they may hate it, the reason very easily can be they don't know about it, or don't care about it.
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I was merely paraphrasing myself because it gets boring to say the same thing over and over again.
EDIT: Another thing I forgot to mention here: parallel sentence structure. I only orignially used the term "hate" because that's the term ACK used. In other words, I was using ACK's own wording to make fun of him. (I think that should be obvious to anyone who can read above a 3rd grade level.)
I'm not changing my story at all if I say "don't like" or "don't care about." All I'm doing is varying the language I use. You may notice that the important part of the sentences, "the majority," remains the same.
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Paraphrasing would be fine if you didn't use the paraphase to slowly change the meaning of what you said. Whereas 'hate' may equate to 'don't like', it does not equate to 'don't care'.
Not caring is an apathetic view of something, a neutral stance. Hatred is forming an opinion about something, tilting towards the negative view. People not playing RenAlert is not evidence that all those people hate it. It may however show they aren't interested in a "mod for a dead game".
You bring up the point of parallel sentence structure which, from what I can tell, is what you also used to try to twist your words around after the initial statement. You started with "hate", paraphrased to "don't like", and then rewrote that while preserving the "don't" in it. This keeps it somewhat parallel, causing people to initially think nothing changed when you had actually altered the meaning of your statement.
NeoSaber
Renegade Map Maker at CnC Source
Animator/Compiler/Level Editor/Object Rigger/Programmer for Red Alert: A Path Beyond
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| CNC REBORN : Nod Rocket Launcher [message #104832] |
Thu, 29 July 2004 13:22 |
mahkra
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Your explanation clearly shows that you don't understand what I was saying, so I won't bother to continue arguing, as my efforts would be wasted on you. You guys already agreed with me anyway -- most people don't play RenAlert.
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Thu, 29 July 2004 14:30 |
mahkra
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Neo, you didn't pick apart anything. The only thing you demonstrated is your own stupidity in not understanding that I was mocking ACK with his own language.
Renx, all I ever said is that the majority doesn't like/play RenAlert. You guys are the ones who argued that fact.
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Thu, 29 July 2004 15:10 |
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NeoSaber
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| mahkra |
Neo, you didn't pick apart anything. The only thing you demonstrated is your own stupidity in not understanding that I was mocking ACK with his own language.
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I did understand that, completely. You thought you were being clever in turning Aircraftkiller's words against him, but you messed up badly because when you turned it around the statement wasn't true, and didn't even have decent evidence to make it appear true. It was a load of BS that only served the purpose of putting down my hard work, which pissed me off because I'm not well known enough for the majority of Renegade players to hate what I do.
I don't like when people try to use half truths to push their agenda, whatever it is. The fact that you used my work as the basis of your deceptive attempt to insult Aircraftkiller just made it worse. I'm getting tired of people dragging me through the mud in their attempts to attack other people around here.
NeoSaber
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Thu, 29 July 2004 17:45 |
mahkra
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| NeoSaber |
It was a load of BS that only served the purpose of putting down my hard work
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| NeoSaber |
I'm getting tired of people dragging me through the mud in their attempts to attack other people around here.
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If you take a minute and think about what you said, maybe you'll understand why I attack ACK & his mod.
I think ACK's a fucktard when he constantly bashes Reborn. It especially bothers me when he tosses around stupid insults that apply equally well to his own mod. I meant no offense to you personally or the work you've done. I was merely pointing out to ACK that it's stupid to say most people hate Reborn, because most people don't play RenAlert either.
I'm sorry if I upset you when I bash RenAlert, but you should understand that when your mod is run by the biggest asshead ever to frequent these forums, it's going to attract criticism. I meant none of what I said as a personal attack against you though. I didn't say your mod sucks, and I didn't say whatever specific part of it you made sucks. All I was trying to do was to tell ACK to STFU about Reborn not being universally popular. It's a stupid statement for him to make, because his own mod doesn't even live up to the standards he seems to use to judge Reborn.
EDIT: Just to clarify, I'm not trying to say "RenAlert sucks" here. (I personally don't like the mod, but I understand that other people enjoy it.) All I'm trying to say is that ACK sets the bar so high for everyone else that RenAlert can't even get over it. And until he learns to shut up, I'll continue to point out that his own mod doesn't live up to the standards he sets for others.
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Thu, 29 July 2004 19:21 |
mahkra
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| Aircraftkiller |
Point out some examples
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Where have you been this whole time? You badmouthed Reborn because it's not universally liked... Well neither is RenAlert. I gave you an example before you ever even asked for one.
| Aircraftkiller |
NeoSaber can tell you that I have very high expectations for what we do.
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Well, from what I've seen of the models, textures, and maps you've created, apparently you don't require yourself to live up to the expectations you have for the rest of your team. The more I see of RenAlert, the more it seems like you're really the weak link in the whole thing. The mod would probably be a lot better without you.
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| CNC REBORN : Nod Rocket Launcher [message #104941] |
Fri, 30 July 2004 06:10 |
mahkra
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| Renx |
No, mahkra is right. We've be much better off without any structures, or maps to play on :rolleyes:
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Maybe that's your solution. If it were up to me, though, I'd reassign his work to someone else after getting rid of him.
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