| A sad day for Republicans [message #103542] |
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Wrong. Bush's IQ is far above what you'll get in your emails. Clinton was tried and convicted as a liar. He had to pay a fine and was disbarred. Now where's your proof?
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| A sad day for Republicans [message #103574] |
Fri, 23 July 2004 12:13 |
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Tried as lying about whaat? His sexual relationships. What do his sexual relationships have to do with ANYTHING in government? Why, none at all.
George Bush is not a smart man. My evidence? He doesn't do anything smart. You can't see him on TV saying smart things. You can't hear him saying smart things. You can hear him stumble all over words and display lack of comprehension, however. Remember in F9/11 when his staff informs him that the U.S. is under attack from the trade centers, and he just starts reading a kid's book for 7 minutes? Smart people don't do that. Idiot people do that.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| A sad day for Republicans [message #103577] |
Fri, 23 July 2004 12:17 |
mahkra
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Wrong. Bush's IQ is far above what you'll get in your emails. Clinton was tried and convicted as a liar. He had to pay a fine and was disbarred. Now where's your proof?
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What I'll get in my emails? WTF are you talking about?
Anyway, here's my proof: have you EVER listened to ANYTHING that George W. has said? My great-grandmother's been losing her mind for a decade already and she still sounds more intelligent than he does.
I said he was a "known" idiot. Not a "convicted" idiot. Everyone knows he's a moron. Most people just don't care, apparently. (Of course, that's not surprising, considering the fact that the majority of the country is probably at least as stupid as he is.)
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| A sad day for Republicans [message #103580] |
Fri, 23 July 2004 12:20 |
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Tried as lying about whaat? His sexual relationships. What do his sexual relationships have to do with ANYTHING in government? Why, none at all.
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Except when it's cigars in the oval office.
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| A sad day for Republicans [message #103626] |
Fri, 23 July 2004 13:35 |
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Interesting.... I'd never seen that before.
There has to be at least some truth behind that, though, or people wouldn't believe it. I mean, come on, Bush is a retard. Everyone knows that. The IQs and stuff are obviously made up, but I wouldn't be surprised if Dubya is indeed the dumbest president we've had in quite some time. (I won't say "dumbest politician," though, because I'm sure Quayle could give him a run for his money.)
Oh, and you want some evidence? How's this: Bush fell off of a Segway.
Yeah, that's what I said. He managed to tip over something that is designed to automatically balance.
You know how he managed it? It was NOT a design flaw. Prez Dubya was just too much of an idiot to actually turn the damn thing on.
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| A sad day for Republicans [message #103629] |
Fri, 23 July 2004 13:39 |
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Everyone? I don't think he's an idiot. I prefer his way of speaking to Clinton's any day.
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| A sad day for Republicans [message #103632] |
Fri, 23 July 2004 13:44 |
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Interesting.... I'd never seen that before.
There has to be at least some truth behind that, though, or people wouldn't believe it. I mean, come on, Bush is a retard. Everyone knows that. The IQs and stuff are obviously made up, but I wouldn't be surprised if Dubya is indeed the dumbest president we've had in quite some time. (I won't say "dumbest politician," though, because I'm sure Quayle could give him a run for his money.)
Oh, and you want some evidence? How's this: Bush fell off of a Segway.
Yeah, that's what I said. He managed to tip over something that is designed to automatically balance.
You know how he managed it? It was NOT a design flaw. Prez Dubya was just too much of an idiot to actually turn the damn thing on.
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OK, here is a little fact for you. People with high IQ's tend to have problems with verbal communication.
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| A sad day for Republicans [message #103638] |
Fri, 23 July 2004 13:58 |
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OK, here is a little fact for you. People with high IQ's tend to have problems with verbal communication.
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I'm not basing my conclusion that Dubya's a fucking moron solely on his inability to speak. (or read off of a teleprompter, for that matter...)
Also, here's another fact for you: bad verbal communication skills do NOT imply high IQ. *Maybe* most people with high IQs are bad at speaking, but pretty much everyone with a really low IQ is bad at speaking...
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| A sad day for Republicans [message #103640] |
Fri, 23 July 2004 13:59 |
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Everyone? I don't think he's an idiot. I prefer his way of speaking to Clinton's any day.
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Okay, sorry. "Everyone with even half a brain."
Is that better?
I swear, you'd have to be dumb as a pile of manure to think Dubya is intelligent...
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| A sad day for Republicans [message #103645] |
Fri, 23 July 2004 14:06 |
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Wow, I thought you could debate without debasing yourself and stooping to insults. Apparently I was wrong. Once you are ready to talk again, let me know.
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| A sad day for Republicans [message #103647] |
Fri, 23 July 2004 14:14 |
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Well, since we weren't even debating anything....
"I think Dubya's stupid!"
"I think he's smart!"
Yeah, that's some debate....
Since your only argument was "you can't prove he's stupid," I figured the discussion wasn't really worth continuing.
Also, I didn't say you can't think he's a good president. Lots of stupid people are good friends and can sometimes even be good at their jobs. (Personally, I'm not really sure what I think of him as a president...) I was just saying that if you truly think he's intelligent, I feel sorry for you.
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| A sad day for Republicans [message #103650] |
Fri, 23 July 2004 14:22 |
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I figured the discussion wasn't really worth continuing.
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So you decided to lower yourself to insults, I understand.
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| A sad day for Republicans [message #103651] |
Fri, 23 July 2004 14:26 |
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heh, I'm not taking sides here but something I saw on a program recently.
A few days ago there was a documentary on stupidity, yes stupidity. They referred to reasons of who would qualify as the lowest common denominator, and how we as a whole tend to respect and look up to stupidity rather than intelligence. One person that was featured as a possible lowest common denominator was Bush. They quoted such things as the speech where he states "It's a struggle between good, and a struggle between evil" (good vs good and evil vs evil?). However, they did mention as they had with others, that maybe it's an act. Seeing as how people look up more to stupidity than intelligence, maybe like so many others, he's acting stupid to gain and keep public approval.
If need be, I can discuss this documentary more, so as to gt the point across as to why we prefer stupidity over intelligence, but my point has been stated, so unless asked, I won't go any further.
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| A sad day for Republicans [message #103656] |
Fri, 23 July 2004 14:47 |
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I figured the discussion wasn't really worth continuing.
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So you decided to lower yourself to insults, I understand.
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Hey, I never claimed to be above insults. I just think it's stupid when people reduce themselves to nothing but insults.
EDIT: And warranto, that actually sounds like a (potentially) pretty neat documentary. I'd be interested to hear more about it.
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Fri, 23 July 2004 15:01 |
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Everyone? I don't think he's an idiot. I prefer his way of speaking to Clinton's any day.
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Is it hard for you to understand Clinton when he uses words more then four syllables long without stumbling on them?
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OK, here is a little fact for you. People with high IQ's tend to have problems with verbal communication.
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Ha ha! You're trying to pretend that George Bush mispronounces words and doesn't use big ones because he's too smart? Wow, that's a new one. I laugh at you. I really do.
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Segways are dangerous when their batteries are low. The fall over. I think the latest segway accident claimed 50 lives.
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Out of curiosity, how did a Segway falling over claim 50 lives?
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"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| A sad day for Republicans [message #103661] |
Fri, 23 July 2004 15:06 |
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I understand the words that Clinton used, but they are not words that one uses every day and while I take a second or two to remember what the word means, you've already missed another sentence. All this from a guy who doesn't know the meaning of the word "is".
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| A sad day for Republicans [message #103671] |
Fri, 23 July 2004 15:27 |
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So it's bad the he doesn't use everyday language? The President is not supposed to be an ordinary person. Republicans thought that might be a good idea with Ronald Reagan, but it was not a good idea. I heard a good idea on the internet - instead of putting Reagan's face on the ten, we should put it on Federal Treasury Notes, since we pay off the national debt with them.
And the whole meaning of "is" came about because of clarification of the judge's definition of what sexual relations are. During those terrible trials where Republicans were doing whatever they could to make Clinton look bad. In fact, a lot of lawyers have said we have to re-define the rules of what can and cannot be asked in court because of those trials.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| A sad day for Republicans [message #103676] |
Fri, 23 July 2004 15:56 |
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That's funny, I prefer someone who relates to me and others, not someone who acts like they're better than everyone else.
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| A sad day for Republicans [message #103679] |
Fri, 23 July 2004 16:25 |
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That's funny, I prefer someone who relates to me and others, not someone who acts like they're better than everyone else.
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Which is exactly why I think our political system sucks. The uneducated masses should not be choosing the President. The more capable person should be president. Our system simply makes the most popular person win. And popularity is NOT a good substitute for competence...
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| A sad day for Republicans [message #103686] |
Fri, 23 July 2004 17:01 |
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That's funny, I prefer someone who relates to me and others, not someone who acts like they're better than everyone else.
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Clinton showing that he is very intelligent is not him telling you that you're too stupid to be bothered with. It's him being an educated person. Unllike George Bush. So, having someone without the capacity for higher language skills is preferable to someone with, at least in your mind?
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| A sad day for Republicans [message #103743] |
Sat, 24 July 2004 02:32 |
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It's him being an educated person. Unllike George Bush.
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Personal Life and Education
Bush was born in Connecticut and grew up in Midland and Houston, Texas. He has four younger siblings: Jeb, Neil, Marvin, and Dorothy. A younger sister, Robin, died of leukemia in 1953, at the age of three.
He followed his father and grandfather in education at Phillips Academy and Yale University, where he received a bachelor's degree in 1968 and where he joined Delta Kappa Epsilon and the Skull and Bones Society. He then received a Master of Business Administration (MBA) from Harvard Business School. He is the first president with an MBA degree.
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Source: http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/display?content=598
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| A sad day for Republicans [message #103761] |
Sat, 24 July 2004 05:33 |
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Crimson, Yale is pathetically easy to get into. And he didn't even get in on his own merit. "He followed his father and grandfather."
Also, Harvard nowadays is nothing but a name. Among quite a large portion of educated people, a Harvard "education" is a joke. Once you're accepted, it's more difficult to fail than it is to graduate. And I'm sure being the son of a President played some part in Dubya's acceptance...
EDIT: A friend pointed out to me that I misspoke when I said "the son of a President." Back then, Bush Sr. wasn't yet President. He was only the director of the CIA. (Who probably has more power than the president anyway...)
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