| Proof Anti-War arguments hold no Water! [message #9256] |
Mon, 24 March 2003 07:54   |
KIRBY098
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| Commando no. 448 |
But do know you are just sustaining and breeding my anti-american feelings to even higher levels.
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Couldn't care less. Our job is not to please you. If you have issues with Americans, you need to deal with it on your own, but I will not pander to your "feelings", especially on this matter. Frankly, the French nation was saved from annihilation TWICE in the last century by Americans. There should be enough thankfulness there to at least not sell weapons to our enemies, and undercut our diplomatic efforts. Diplomacy failed because the French, and Russians wanted it to. Why? because the french and russians supply the Iraqui military with equipment, advisors, and other supplies. There is no noble effort on thier part to save lives, they want a stake in the Iraqui oil, more than anyone else. Where do you think the t-72,s French Mirages, Russian SAMS, and french supply trucks come from? See any american equipment in the videos being used? No.
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| Proof Anti-War arguments hold no Water! [message #9296] |
Mon, 24 March 2003 12:37 |
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So first, people make fun of France, then get mad when people say something back about the US?!?
Talk about hypocracy...
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It helps if you have a logical basis for the statements/comments in hand. To say "Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your acordian(sp?)" isn't a stretch of the truth. Everyone is aware of the razor sharp military planning of the French (See : Big stationary guns pointed the wrong way) and their resolve to defend their homeland (See : Nazi's walking into France while grown men cry in the street). But if you wanted to say oh that Bush was a dictator or America is turning into Nazi Germany I'd have to say you have no basis for your insults. [insert stupid statement about America taking over the world here].
If the mud some are slinging dont stick to the wall cause of lack of facts thats not *our* (America's) fault.
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I agree that a lot of mud-slinging holds no ground, but it's not that there isn't anything even slightly imperfect in the US...
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| Proof Anti-War arguments hold no Water! [message #9302] |
Mon, 24 March 2003 12:56 |
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So first, people make fun of France, then get mad when people say something back about the US?!?
Talk about hypocracy...
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It helps if you have a logical basis for the statements/comments in hand. To say "Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your acordian(sp?)" isn't a stretch of the truth. Everyone is aware of the razor sharp military planning of the French (See : Big stationary guns pointed the wrong way) and their resolve to defend their homeland (See : Nazi's walking into France while grown men cry in the street). But if you wanted to say oh that Bush was a dictator or America is turning into Nazi Germany I'd have to say you have no basis for your insults. [insert stupid statement about America taking over the world here].
If the mud some are slinging dont stick to the wall cause of lack of facts thats not *our* (America's) fault.
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I agree that a lot of mud-slinging holds no ground, but it's not that there isn't anything even slightly imperfect in the US...
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proof of that... anna nicole smith has a tv show :rolleyes:
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| Proof Anti-War arguments hold no Water! [message #9415] |
Tue, 25 March 2003 00:19 |
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also, an important item of note... the us was never a major supplier of arms to iraq. the ussr was the major supplier. we sold some, but they mostly got them elsewhere as we were supplying the kurds and iran(back door iran-contra) we never really liked sadaam, we tolerated him a little while trying to fight iran, but we never liked him or the way he came to power.
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| Proof Anti-War arguments hold no Water! [message #9935] |
Thu, 27 March 2003 06:29 |
KIRBY098
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| Commando no. 448 |
The only thing that stops them from going out into the light is "the nail that sticks up gets pounded down."
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And thus the mindset of action vs inaction. Preventive measures could have prevented Adolf Hitler's rise to power, and the subsequent slaughter of millions. It could have prevented Stalin's purges, it could have prevented so many pointless deaths, the loss of trillions of dollars, and years of wasted time on communism.
Taking action through confrontation before it gets out of hand, is the ONLY way to make error prone humans be calm. Do riot police ask the rioters politely to calm down, and negotiate a peaceful solution? No. They use teargas to force the people to calm the hell down.
If you think seeing dead soldiers is disturbing, you should see some of the things I've seen. Your heart would break watching children dying. That's why we try to preserve the world we live in. Not for us, for our children.
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| Proof Anti-War arguments hold no Water! [message #9998] |
Thu, 27 March 2003 13:45 |
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| Commando no. 448 |
The only thing that stops them from going out into the light is "the nail that sticks up gets pounded down."
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And thus the mindset of action vs inaction. Preventive measures could have prevented Adolf Hitler's rise to power, and the subsequent slaughter of millions. It could have prevented Stalin's purges, it could have prevented so many pointless deaths, the loss of trillions of dollars, and years of wasted time on communism.
Taking action through confrontation before it gets out of hand, is the ONLY way to make error prone humans be calm. Do riot police ask the rioters politely to calm down, and negotiate a peaceful solution? No. They use teargas to force the people to calm the hell down.
If you think seeing dead soldiers is disturbing, you should see some of the things I've seen. Your heart would break watching children dying. That's why we try to preserve the world we live in. Not for us, for our children.
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Stop treating me like a pacifist. I was proving you wrong not trying to promote peace. As I said before I have a rather disliking of the United States and enjoy arguing with their citizens.
I didn't say the wars fought against some of those things were unwarranted. I personaly beleive that communism is the answer to capitalist greed and the only way to acheive equality through most of the population. But suppressing slavery was good.
And tear gas doesn't make people calm the hell down. They run screaming not suddenly stop being unrestful.
As for the not for us but for our children part. Maybe it is because I am unmarried but I personaly beleive in forgeting about the future generations. I want our generation to live the way we want and if we live long enough to see consequences for our actions so be it.
But hey this entire post is mainly my oppinons.
Your mind is weaker-Einsteinb (WOL, WWEXP forums, Generally everywhere I don't need a different name)
We invented statistics for people who can't keep bullets out of their head-Commando no. 448
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| Proof Anti-War arguments hold no Water! [message #10001] |
Thu, 27 March 2003 13:49 |
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Teargas stops thier violence, and sends them home.
And let me get this straight, you believe communism works, and you say screw the future generation?
:rolleyes:
Whatever Josef Stalin.
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| Proof Anti-War arguments hold no Water! [message #10017] |
Thu, 27 March 2003 14:57 |
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Communist socialism is what I beleive is right. But the government is not being greedy with the money. It would be putting it into free health care, free education, and lowering taxes on the people.
Well you had to make a correction. Therefore I feel a partial success. :bigups: 
I would feel fine if the human race stopped reproducing and just let them selves die off. No future generation to even worry about. Make the world better for the animals at that. I value the living of the yet to live. Only the non-existant would be hurt by that decision, there fore no one was hurt.
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if you think communism works, talk to a russian who lived under communism, i have. it doesn't work, health care is crappy, education is crappy, you aren't allowed to work harder than anyone else because everyone must be equal. it's a lot like what liberals are trying to do to the us. i work with a russian, he points out all the time how liberals are trying to turn the us into another communist country and that it doesn't work.
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