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useing models from other CnC games [message #10009] Thu, 27 March 2003 14:11 Go to next message
Titan1x77 is currently offline  Titan1x77
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are the models from other CnC games .w3d?

i want to play around with some of the stuff from tiberian sun....im using the xcc mixer but it freezes up 90% off the time.

I use the renegade extractor for extracting stuff from REN,and have no problems with that program.

my other question is...is there another extractor for tiberian sun?

Also is there another extractor besides xcc for generals?


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useing models from other CnC games [message #10023] Thu, 27 March 2003 15:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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TS uses voxels for vehicles (coloured blocks on top of each other - like lego or something) and shp(bitmap) for buildings
me and the TS Revolution team are currently making a mod for renegade based on the TS units.
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XCC version 1.25 seems to work for me now. The only version since 1.21 that has worked on my PC also you can stop the new version from scanning your system fro the files (the thing that normally crashes XCC). There is another program to extract the files from C&C Genereals called BIGpop that will open the BIG files.

Renegade was the first C&C game to use a 3D engine for the graphics so only Renegade and Generals use W3D files. As JWP said TS and RA2 use Voxels (Volume Pixels) as things like vehicles

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useing models from other CnC games [message #10061] Thu, 27 March 2003 18:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Um, yeah...

What TS (and RA2/YR, etc.) use are voxels (the vehicles) and images (the buildings, infantry), these are completely different than what Renegade uses (Renegade uses 3d models, the games like TS and RA2 use 2d stuff like the voxels/shp's)


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useing models from other CnC games [message #10096] Thu, 27 March 2003 21:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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how about the terrain.....i wanna make maps that have the look and feel of the terrain without having to run around them to figure out how to make 'em.

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useing models from other CnC games [message #10194] Fri, 28 March 2003 14:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Trust me, there is no easy way to make maps besides reading tut's and using Gmax a lot.

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useing models from other CnC games [message #10197] Fri, 28 March 2003 14:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i know this...and ive read them all.

I love my ren-x....i just want to make a map just like some of the maps in TS...i want to veiw them and imitate the maps from that game.


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useing models from other CnC games [message #10202] Fri, 28 March 2003 14:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If it was posible, it would be one masive map, if it was to scale.

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useing models from other CnC games [message #10208] Fri, 28 March 2003 15:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i wouldnt make it the whole terrain Laughing

anyone know how to view the whole map from TS?


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useing models from other CnC games [message #10215] Fri, 28 March 2003 15:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Um, clear out the entire map ingame... (either by playing the level through, or by using a clear map cheat/trainer, which is perfectly allright)

Or get the XCC utilities and extract the level from the .mix and view it in a map editor.


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useing models from other CnC games [message #10225] Fri, 28 March 2003 16:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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where can i find as map editor for TS?

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It's called Final Sun. It's third party software that you can download to edit maps in TS. You may find a link on the Westwood site though.

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Or, find a map preveiw, or map picture, export it into paint shop pro or something, give it a grey scale, and convert it to a bitmap. Do the displace method, with the bitmap, its not so great, but it will get the "basics down".

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useing models from other CnC games [message #10280] Fri, 28 March 2003 22:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yea i tried final sun (didnt work) and im fed up with the xcc mixer1.25 locking up

How do i get the xcc mixer scan to cancel??

I think im just gonna work on a map idea i had in mind....


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Titan1x77

yea i tried final sun (didnt work) and im fed up with the xcc mixer1.25 locking up

How do i get the xcc mixer scan to cancel??

I think im just gonna work on a map idea i had in mind....


Thats a good idea! I think I am going to do that to! Razz


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