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Originally posted by Laser2150:
Your not the Creator, WW made it, but you did everything else, besides make the level.

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Originally posted by Laser2150:
Your not the Creator, WW made it, but you did everything else, besides make the level.

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Lets see... I textured the map, I aligned everything, added the fun essences to the map, blocked the holes in the ceiling, textured more, realigned all of the buildings, added Repair Facilities, did the VIS almost 20 times in a row...

Yeah, I'm not the creator of it, even though I legally own the W3D files and was given total permission by Westwood to do all this. You're right, I'm a fraud.

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Originally posted by aircraftkiller2001:

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Originally posted by Laser2150:
Your not the Creator, WW made it, but you did everything else, besides make the level.

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Lets see... I textured the map, I aligned everything, added the fun essences to the map, blocked the holes in the ceiling, textured more, realigned all of the buildings, added Repair Facilities, did the VIS almost 20 times in a row...

Yeah, I'm not the creator of it, even though I legally own the W3D files and was given total permission by Westwood to do all this. You're right, I'm a fraud.

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Originally posted by aircraftkiller2001:
I'm the creator of Glacier Flying... Simply put, now that the map is official and the W3D exists inside of C&C_Glacier_Flying.mix, that means you're able to use them.

Go to Objects > Vehicles > Mounted > GDI_Guard_Tower

Then click make on the tower and position it accordingly.

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Originally posted by K9Trooper:

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Originally posted by aircraftkiller2001:
I'm the creator of Glacier Flying... Simply put, now that the map is official and the W3D exists inside of C&C_Glacier_Flying.mix, that means you're able to use them.

Go to Objects > Vehicles > Mounted > GDI_Guard_Tower

Then click make on the tower and position it accordingly.

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ACK, you go and call andre' a thief and yet you claim that you created CnC_Glacier>Flying.mix!!!
It was a WW map. Even at n00bstories.com they say that WW started the map and you finished it. I agree you created the guard towers, but that does not mean that you created the whole map. You can call that map yours just as much as you call your parents house yours, but in reality neither of them are yours. The guard towers are yours and maybe a few other things. But not the whole map.

I will not reply any further than this because I don't have time to argue with a kid.

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Originally posted by K9Trooper:
I've studied law. Unless ACK can prove that WW gave him full rights to this map, the map is not his. It is in the hands of WW. Also giving him the rights to do whatever he needed to do inorder to get the map done is not a "quit claims" to the map from WW. And he still can't claim to be the creator of the map when it already existed. Finished or not. He did not create this map , he finished it.

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Originally posted by K9Trooper:
No proof, no ownership. You received a map that was already started and named by WW. You didn't create the map, you finished the map. Then you turned it over to WW giving them back ownership. You tell andre' to give credit to where credit is due. Why don't you give credit to WW for creating the map and letting you finish it?
You do good work ACK, but you also have to play by the rules and give credit where it's due.

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Originally posted by K9Trooper:
No proof, no ownership. You received a map that was already started and named by WW. You didn't create the map, you finished the map. Then you turned it over to WW giving them back ownership. You tell andre' to give credit to where credit is due. Why don't you give credit to WW for creating the map and letting you finish it?
You do good work ACK, but you also have to play by the rules and give credit where it's due.

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Try reading the readmes on the maps that were originally done by them... You'll see a whole paragraph of credits.

However, when it comes down to it, I don't have to do that as I legally own the files in question. I didn't give them ownership at all... Just because it is (as in one, not more than one, referring to maps.) in the patch, does not make it theirs.

As I stated before... I am the sole owner of all of the unfinished maps. They all belong to me, I am the creators and the original designers would be the concept artists, in this case. If you want to dispute that, you're more than welcome to... But you'd still be wrong, so I don't see why you'd want to.

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Originally posted by Blazer:
Ack never said that he created the map from scratch. Its a known fact that WS gave him several concept/partially-started maps, and transferred him full ownership and rights to them so he could legally work on them. He put a lot of work into them, and even got one included in the patch.

You may want to split hairs about the difference between "creator" and "owner", but why bother? He's not trying to fool anyone. Its like he said, its easier to say "Im the creator of Glacier_Flying, what can I help you with?", instead of "Im the person who legally owns the maps and models given to me, which I completed and transformed into the map you now know as glacier_flying."

All these words are probably confusing to you, so I will simplify:
1. Ack never said he made Glacier from scratch.
2. He LEGALLY owns the map and models.
3. He's not trying to make money from them.
4. By saying he is "the creator", he simply means he is the one who made it what it is today.
5. STFU.

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Originally posted by aircraftkiller2001:
[QUOTE]Cowick, it's rather obvious that you're another llama account made by one of the "MadCow" clan members, just for that purpose. You don't disguise yourselves very well.

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