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Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979543] Wed, 06 March 2002 02:10 Go to next message
Anonymous
1. Organize and fight as one.
Just dont run off doing your own thing. How many times has ONE person run into the base and get blown away? (against a prepared team that is) ;>

2. TALK --- if you see something -- yell out -- (Like 'There is a sniper on the ridge - NW of T Field" )

3. Move while you are shooting --- a standing target is a dead target.

4. If you are in a tank rush -- spread out if possible -- leave room to move around -- and stop trying to shoot through me. Plus - if you make a gaggle of tanks -- you will get splash damage. (every hear of the fish in the barrel?)

5. If you buy a tank or whatever -- if it can take more people -- load up - the more fire power - the better. You get to the ememy - they pop out - whammo..... Plus - if you hit the eject by mistake - you team still owns it.

6. DONT repair a tank or person if your Buildings are under fire - and REPAIR at the MCT ---

7. If you cant drive - DONT -- you will just give the enemy more points.

8. Cover each other -- If your blocking - move - if your standing - crouch - ammo that is not hitting the enemy is wasted.

9. Shooting weapons just to see the pretty effects are a waste of AMMO -- (for guns that need to reload)

and finally - number 10

10. ALWAYS LOOK FOR THE GDI/NOD EMBLEM ON THE TARGET AND SHOOT ONLY IF IT DOESNT MATCH YOURS ----->NOD - GDI - SHOOT <- NOD - NOD -- DONT SHOOT>

Anyway -- these are some of the things that bother me when i play.

I played a rocking 5 hours with seven other people that followed these rules -- and it was the best session i ever played. Makes all the difference.

-EOL

Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979542] Wed, 06 March 2002 02:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
THA BEST THINGS YOU CAN GET..

to bad some newb's dont know this tricks!!!

Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979541] Wed, 06 March 2002 06:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
First a question, then a comment. Fisrt of all why repair at the MCT? Does the building repair faster if you're there? I know one benefit is that that's where the C4 will usually be.

Second, if people can't drive, they should definatly still try. They never get good without trying. I mean, I got my girlfriend on the game and within a couple of games I had even her taking down at least 2 vehicles to her one. And she's never played a FPS before.(She usually just plays the sims.) If that's not enough of a point, I don't know what is.

Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979540] Wed, 06 March 2002 06:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Yep -- they repair faster when at MCT..


also -- Practice driving in the practice mode -- then drive in MP when you can.

Remember --these are just guidelines -not rules.....

Plus - i love seeing newbee's going in circles and blocking them tanks..... LOL

Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979539] Wed, 06 March 2002 07:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
And:
If an enemy Technician/Hotwire or even just an Engi made it into one of your builings and has placed C4 on the MCT:
DON'T repair the MCT, get rid of the C4s first!
I just have seen many Engis dying as they stood around the MCT where 2 timed C4s were waiting to detonate - well, they did
Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979538] Wed, 06 March 2002 11:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
concerning the 10 guidelines: Amen
Concerning practice mode: way too easy
(Obelisk problems? rush through the back way, run inside, plant a timed, suicide yo bad self, repeat twice. No money wasted)

Anyone else think GDI's vehicles aren't nearly as good?

Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979537] Thu, 07 March 2002 05:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
If you are taking part of a "rush", don't back out.

Think of it like an RTS. In the original Command an Conquer, if you selected a group of tanks to rush the enemy, and most of your tanks turned away and ran, would the "rush" be effective?

No, and the same applies for this game.

Too many times I have seen 3-4 Mammoths ready to rush, then when the rush takes place, 2-3 of the tanks will turn tail and run when they notice the leader taking damage.

You will DIE in a rush, but you will also take out the enemy buildings if you ignore everything but the target.

When you Rush, DO NOT STOP BECAUSE YOUR PAINT GOT SCRATCHED!!!

Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979536] Sat, 23 March 2002 03:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
this is a good post and should not fade into oblivion. there's still plenty of players that need these kinds of tips, so i wanted to reply and bump it back to the front page!

one thing on rushing. depending on how many are involved, sometimes discretion is the better part of valor. if there are only a couple of you going in and the base is loaded with defense, back off. don't give them easy points and money for their own rush!

Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979535] Sat, 23 March 2002 06:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Another thing! If you see a teammate retreating cause he is low on health then LET HIM PASS! Most of the time i die because while retreating i crash with a tank of my team and that noob instead of moving away presses the forward key and pushes me toward the mammoth tank. So please LET DAMAGED VEHICLES RETREAT!!!

PS: And do not push your teammates in directon of the base defenses! Happened once to me. Some noob with his Apc pushed me around the corner and the obelisk toasted me.

Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979534] Sat, 23 March 2002 06:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
quote:
Originally posted by StoneRook:
1. Organize and fight as one.
Just dont run off doing your own thing. How many times has ONE person run into the base and get blown away? (against a prepared team that is) ;>

2. TALK --- if you see something -- yell out -- (Like 'There is a sniper on the ridge - NW of T Field" )


:



Problem w/ #2 is typing takes some time. The one thing you dont want to do is warn your team of an incoming vehicle but get killed b4 ur message is completely typed and sent. Of course you can just hit ctrl-0("enemy spotted!") even though it isnt very specific.

They really need to either make alot more voice-commands, or allow microphone communication. Of course with all the lag complaints still going on, u probably cant expect microphone comm. to be allowed into the game anytime soon at all!!
It would make lag worse.

But they could at least do more voice-messages or better yet, allow u to make ur own and assign the keys yourself

Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979533] Sat, 23 March 2002 09:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
If you can't take it on yourself, retreat and THEN warn the team.

Hotwires etc. and defensive snipers are the best for updating the team. Hotwires etc. can usually hide in a vehicle. And snipers have free time on their hands.

Great list BTW, let's hope everybody will understand these things soon.

Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979532] Sat, 23 March 2002 10:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Here is one other tip for those who like to take a vehicle in solo as an Engineer driving it.

1) if the vehicle is in good condition, don't get out of it in the enemy base unless you want to know what it looks like to be killed by your OLD vehicle. I have stolen a few enemy vehicles that were abandonned in my base because they went to repair it, or tried going into the building. Just use the vehicle on the building for as long as you can.
2) If you are an Engineer and going into the fight on foot to keep the hardware in 1 piece, pay attention to when they back up. Usually that means there is something there, move with the vehicle.
3) If you are Hotwire or a Tech. and you are placing mines, remember there is a limit to how many mines can be placed at 1 given time. I think it is 30, please correct me if I am wrong. I made the mistake when I first started playing by placing mines all over the place, and I go back to where I started and the mines are gone. So don't just place mines anywhere, make sure they will be effective. There is nothing better than you repairing a building, and you hear "BOINK".

And 1 final consideration. I have done this in the past, I just purchased a 1000 credit character, and the base get over run. You hear a the builing you are in is under attack, and taking damage fast. I will take the loss of money and change to an Engineer or Hotwire/Tech if i have the $$ and repair the building.

These are just things I do, everyone is different, but remember you are on a TEAM, and as the saying goes, "THERE IS NO I IN TEAM

Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979531] Sat, 23 March 2002 10:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Here's another one:
Use 'J', everybody being the same unit isn't a effective way of attacking the enemy.
Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979530] Sat, 23 March 2002 10:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
quote:
But they could at least do more voice-messages or better yet, allow u to make ur own and assign the keys yourself

that's a great suggestion. user programmable commands, even if they're not audible, would be an excellent way of better coordinating forces and warning of enemy action. i hope somebody at ww is reading these posts and taking notes!

Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979529] Sat, 23 March 2002 11:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
1. first thing, if anything. ASAP start droping prox mines, in maps like under, I find this to be the first thing you should always do

2. get a good offensive AND defensive

3. don't waste all your money on vehicles (exp. if your teammates are also wasting their money) and just rushing a heavily gaurded base. SO many times I see my team do that, then when they actually attack, we have no money to buy vehicles to defend ourselfs.

4. whenever possible, try to kill any support engineers/hotwires/techs.

5. for nod, kill GDI's harvestor early, I found this to be very effective since gdi's vehicles cost alot. GDI can do this as well, but it doesn't show as good of results, since they're stuff is cheaper. Also, protect your own if you can. If the enemies harvestor is stuck, just leave it.

6. keep moving. try if you can, to never stand still, when in vehicles and when your not in them.

7. cover all interences to your base, exp. in maps with no defense. Doing this will help keep pesky engineers/techs/hotwires from destroying your vehicles

8. heal whenever possible, and as fast as you can. Try to keep your tank alive as much as possible, and to be safe. Even if it's not completely healed, get in and drive away. This is good for gdi if invisible black hand should be near. Also, try to do this in your base as much as possible, much easier.

9. During battles inside your buildings, if your getting low on health, hit a Perchase terminal and quickly hit 5. It's cheap, but hey. It gets the job done. Very Very Effective this is. Good for killing pesky infantry.

10. Keep your distance. Always try to stay away from oncoming tanks and such, and try to aim infront of them so your shots more so hitting them.

11. Dodge fire, jumping and ducking are good ways (just hit duck and let off) to avoid critical damage from sniper fire. Always pay attention to the surroundings.

12. low class snipers, snipe humvees/buggies and artilary/MRLS as well as infantry. I found the sniper is pretty decent agenist those vehicles! I don't use 1000 cred snipers, so I can't say anything bout them

These are my words of advice. I found these to be very effective. Enjoy

Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979528] Sat, 23 March 2002 12:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
quote:
Originally posted by generalfox:
5. If the enemies harvestor is stuck, just leave it.

This is the tactic of a noob. Don't exploit the harvester bug in this way. I'm sure you wouldn't like it if it happened to you. Otherwise reasonable tips, apart from the repairing your own vehicle one. That's just asking for it.

Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979527] Sat, 23 March 2002 13:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
I cant seem to stress this enough.

IF YOU A A MILE AWAY AND HAVE A STEALTH TANK OR LIKE USING MAMMIES ROCKETS DONT SHOOT AT THE TARGET A MILE AWAY. THEY DONT HAVE INFINITE RANGE, SURE IT MY DETRACT SOME1 FROM APPROACHING BUT ITS USELESS!!!!

whoa i feel much better now

Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979526] Sat, 23 March 2002 13:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
these are great tips for all of us average and new players. just hope everybody is paying attention. i can say this: my own rating has improved as i've played and learned. i'll never be a top-notch player, but my teamwork skills are coming along nicely! keep this post going!!
Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979525] Sat, 23 March 2002 19:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
quote:
Originally posted by eg:
If you are taking part of a "rush", don't back out.

Think of it like an RTS. In the original Command an Conquer, if you selected a group of tanks to rush the enemy, and most of your tanks turned away and ran, would the "rush" be effective?

No, and the same applies for this game.

Too many times I have seen 3-4 Mammoths ready to rush, then when the rush takes place, 2-3 of the tanks will turn tail and run when they notice the leader taking damage.

You will DIE in a rush, but you will also take out the enemy buildings if you ignore everything but the target.

When you Rush, DO NOT STOP BECAUSE YOUR PAINT GOT SCRATCHED!!!


AMEN!!
Don't be afraid of dying in a rush! Think of this as C&C strategy, and not last man standing in a realism game!

Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979524] Sat, 23 March 2002 20:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
these tips are great... if your a retard and you dont know how to play games at all like alot of people these days
teamwork is great, but in a LOT of cases going solo is the only way to go... for example the chances of 1 hotwire being seen sneaking through the tunnels and into a undefended base are pretty good... the chances of 3-4 getting through are awfully bad... even though u think theres more of you = more mines = more damage... its stupid
theyll kill u all, and defuse all of the mines, ive seen it happen all the time
but i have to say the most annoying n00b trait is gettin out of your vehicle to repair it uself...
im a sniper... i LOVE playing these people, ill just get a perfect shot lined up, pop his head off, stroll right into the tank then take it back to base for repairs
then i usually get out of it and give it to anybody that wants it koz i hate tanks Razz
anywayz... NEVER GET OUT OF YOUR TANKS YOU IDIOTS!!!
Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979523] Sat, 23 March 2002 22:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
The dumbest thing a n00b can do(and its happened ) is get out and repair their mammoth simply because they have the opportunity to do so .

I was stealth blackhand, and i placed timed c4 on back of mammoth. Once it blew the driver got out just anywhere to repair it. Once it was almost completely repaired, i got in it .

Heres a lesson to n00bs:As GDI: NEVER get out to repair ur tank unless either there is more than 1 person in it or u r near ur guard tower(towers can detect and kill cloakers)

Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979522] Sat, 23 March 2002 23:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
well i suppose i've been lucky. i've never been killed while repairing my vehicle in the field. i always try to get in a spot that offers some protection, but there's been some times i was just waiting to get sniped or killed by a stealth. i did have it stolen by a idiot on my own team once. i didn't even bother to say "get out of the vehicle". anyone one that would steal a team mates tank won't listen anyway...
Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979521] Sun, 24 March 2002 02:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
quote:
Originally posted by Ren Sizzlefab:
This is the tactic of a noob. Don't exploit the harvester bug in this way. I'm sure you wouldn't like it if it happened to you. Otherwise reasonable tips, apart from the repairing your own vehicle one. That's just asking for it.

It happens to me all the time. Guess what happens after it destroyed, it just gets stuck again!

Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979520] Sun, 24 March 2002 03:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
yes, the harvy bug is most annoying, especially when the other team's harvy is functioning normally. i did manage to free a harvy on hourglass once that returned to normal, but i've heard they will just get stuck again alot of times too...
Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979519] Sun, 24 March 2002 17:07 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Anonymous
When I first played I was a NOD Tech and the powerplant's health was in the red and i was repairing the outside. well another player came buy and PM'd me to go inside and repair the MCT when we got inside there where 2 Hotwires placing explosives on the MCT I got my Remote C4 and placed it on both hotwires and blow them up. Next He told me to DISARM the c4 first. From that day on I repair the MCT now if im runnning toward the MCT then I begin repairing it the momment I get with in range.

If there was one thing i really hated was when I stole an enemie tank and then see my own teammates firing at me.

IF THE TANK SYMBOL IS YOURS DO NOT FIRE! IF IT ENTERS YOU BASE AND YOUR DEFENSE'S DO NOT FIRE THEN DON'T FIRE.ALSO TARGET THE VEC FIRST!

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