| Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979518] |
Sun, 24 March 2002 07:37   |
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Most stuff has been said but heres a few: If your harvester ever goes into melee range with the enemy (as it does in some maps) load it up with C4 and let it take out a few enemies with it. If you find a couple of hotwires/engies backing up some tanks, quickly buy a buggy/hummvee and run them over in a kamikazee attack. If a flame tank has reached your base - respawn as an engineer and quickly C4 it before going to repair. If your in a stealth tank - always circle a GDI vehicle and ram it from behind with missles. It takes out ANY vehicle caught alone. [ March 24, 2002: Message edited by: WRAITH ] [ March 24, 2002: Message edited by: WRAITH ]
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| Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979517] |
Sun, 24 March 2002 09:49 |
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quote:
If your in a stealth tank - always circle a GDI vehicle and ram it from behind with missles. It takes out ANY vehicle caught alone
that's a good point. when in a stealth, you have to be patient and avoid the temptation to take on an enemy vehicle head on. i always try to get behind the vehicle and wait for him to be engaged in combat, unless its a relatively weak one like a humvee or mrls. there's way too many people using a stealth as they would a medium tank and getting them wasted...
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| Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979516] |
Mon, 25 March 2002 00:36 |
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Glad to see some many people adding tips to this --- I forgot to mention sound...... I use the 5.1 system (surround sound) and i can hear from which direction something is coming (which works well in this game for some reason) --- i was havok - sniping on a tower - when from behind i heard the swish of someone running - i used the x key to flip 180 - and boom - a shimmer of a black hand stealth -- (coming to plant C4 on my noggin) my twitchy finger pulled -- "boink" - one suprised steatlh.... (of course -- most battle areas are too full of sound for this to work all the time -- but i've been hit to many times by someone hearing my footsteps in quiet area's)
Follow up -- what i was trying to get out about saying something -- if you get wiped out in a tunnel for example - you run into 5 runners -- and they blow you away -- after you die -- type = "tunnel runners - arghhhhhh......) ("Did he carve that in as he died?" (MP)
But making a key to send directions would be helpfull --- lets you use the little compass on your arm....
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| Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979515] |
Mon, 25 March 2002 09:25 |
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sometimes i wonder if we're preaching to the choir here. it would be nice to hear from some newbies and former newbies, like myself, that respond with a thanks, or at least a kind word for the tips. i for one have read just about all the posts that attempt to help out the new guys, and i appreciate all the help i've received through tips like these!
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| Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979514] |
Mon, 25 March 2002 13:16 |
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It's refreshing to see tips and advice etc coming out rather than the usual trashing of "n00bs". Most ppl forget they were new once, and one man's expert is another's "n00b". Remember what was said about a chain  Ladder/rank is worthless and I'm in it for the fun, win lose or draw. Winning's better, but there's no point in b1tching if you get boinked. Although it's frustrating, it's also amusing to watch the scramble for vehicles and single-handed charges without any attempt at organising how/when/where the team will go. The best games are those with a mix of characters/vehicles and ALSO a mix of new, old, serious and fun players. If you're a player who takes the game too seriously to "tolerate" newer payers, then PLEASE password your games or put a clear description for it. Where possible I only join games which aren't clan, ladder or have a name that implies it won't be what I'm looking for. Most important tip of all - for everyone - is this is ONLY A GAME. Enjoy it!
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| Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979513] |
Mon, 25 March 2002 15:07 |
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Well, I will admit I forgot to say thanks for the tips when I first posted. So I will give a big THANKS to everyone who posted before and after I did. I also still come onto the thread to see if anything new has popped up and check for other threads that are helpful as well. This place is a great resource and I will continue to utilize any tools I find in here to make my play better, because Lord knows I need it. hehehe. Thanks everyone.
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| Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979512] |
Mon, 25 March 2002 20:50 |
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Originally posted by zukkov:
that's a great suggestion. user programmable commands, even if they're not audible, would be an excellent way of better coordinating forces and warning of enemy action. i hope somebody at ww is reading these posts and taking notes!
Thats a good one. We need something like shortcut messages that you can enter before or in the game. Its nice if you can give alt-f1 a message like apc is comming in.
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| Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979511] |
Mon, 25 March 2002 20:54 |
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quote:
Originally posted by zukkov:
that's a good point. when in a stealth, you have to be patient and avoid the temptation to take on an enemy vehicle head on. i always try to get behind the vehicle and wait for him to be engaged in combat, unless its a relatively weak one like a humvee or mrls. there's way too many people using a stealth as they would a medium tank and getting them wasted...
Good one... Most of the people just start shooting with the stealth when they see an enemy. First go to a sort of hiding place where only that enemy vehicle can see you. If you just start shooting a lot of enemy that you didn't see will shoot you.
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| Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979509] |
Mon, 08 April 2002 07:05 |
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Nice tips! Here is another good tip! - Just because it is expensive, does not make it the better buy -
Stealth Black hand is my favorite unit in the game and it only costs 400!
Also, buy characters and vehicles for you abilitys! Don't buy a sniper if you cant snipe and don't even want to snipe! ---------------------------- Lots of times i see newbs saying "wow, i never knew you could take out a mammy with a nod officer (or something to that effect)" they try for hours and cant do it, and this oppurtunity doesnt come up often so they buy a nod officer and wait for a mmamy to come while not doing anything else. just standing there! letting there team mates die and there base be destroyed! Sorry for rambling on but this REALLY annoys me! [ April 08, 2002: Message edited by: huntleader ]
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| Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979508] |
Mon, 08 April 2002 08:28 |
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Don't underestimate the power of a single soldier. On bases with no defences, (works best with Patch or stealth guy), a single C4 and your weapon are enough to take out a building on your own.
I was playing on Walls, ran into GDI's powerplant, stuck C4 on their MCT and started shooting away. The buggers were too busy looking for the decoy beacons they ignored me.
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| Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979506] |
Mon, 08 April 2002 15:11 |
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ALWAYS check to see if a vehicle is controlled by your team or not. This is especially important on maps that have no automated defenses. I "borrowed" a medium tank from a recently deceased engineer and proceeded to casually cruise into the GDI base (I was NOD). I was driving straight at another GDI engineer and he started repairing me! I knew he was new to the game, so I let him fully repair me before squishing him.  If the targeting sights are RED, IT AIN'T YOURS! Stickman
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| Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979505] |
Mon, 08 April 2002 21:07 |
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Some good tips here. Some I figured out on my own, some I didn't.  Myself I'm okay at playing Renegade but I'm not good at teamwork. I try, suggest plans, warn of incoming flamers and stuff like that but on the whole it doesn't work or doesn't work as intended (Among other things it doesn't seem that anyone listens). More on what's useful and what isn't would be nice. Also, one thing that has been bugging me - are there any weak spots on vehicles like there's weak spots on people? Is there any 'headshots' on vehicles? Okay since this is supposed to be a tips thread I guess I should suggest one thing: I find it is much better to use the alternate steering method for vehicles, with the WASD for steering and mouse for aiming. Made the light tank a whole lot deadlier using that control set, since you can aim behind you and dodge much more effectively with it.
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| Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979504] |
Mon, 08 April 2002 21:29 |
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thanks for bringing this post back out of the cobwebs. i only hope the newer players will read these tips and learn something. for the benefit of the newer players, i would just like to say(or repeat someone that's already said) that while this game is a fps, it does require teamwork to win. yes i've seen games won without teamwork, but that only means the enemy was worse at it than our team. but you can't count on the enemy to accomidate you that way often. just try to be a johny on the spot and help other team members as much as possible. when you buy a vehicle, it's best to go out into the fray with at least one other vehicle rather than out on your own. try to concentrate your firepower on what other vehicles are shooting at. if there are already lots of vehicles on the battlefield, then go out as an engie/tech/hotwire and repair those that are already engaged. when you first enter a game or respawn, check around for base defense players. if there are none, then hang back at base and play defensive. patrol and check all areas of approach to the base or buildings. are they mined? if not, become a tech/hotwire and mine them. all too often the whole team is out on the battlefield and 1 lone enemy can knock out a building or 2 cuz no one was there to stop him. anyway, there are so many things that could be added, but the main point of this thread is to get you to be a team player and not a 1 man army...
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| Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979503] |
Mon, 08 April 2002 22:25 |
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I truly wish I could be in a game with some of you guys, tactics are vital in renegade, and every game i seem to join nobody listens or seems to do anything even remotely resembly a tactic... let alone many tactics which are pretty much what is required to win a game... (or make it a fun game)... I say bring on the players who arent all rambo's and want to work as a team in one place... call that place a 'teamwork forum'.. and let the good games roll on ! 
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| Ten Things to do while playing on a team. [message #-979499] |
Tue, 09 April 2002 11:51 |
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You know, I think we may be making a dent in the teamwork war. I think there are two forum server games now, dedicated to Teamwork, and more and more folks who want to explore the value of teamwork in the game.
Here is my plan. I'm going to place my WOL name here, and anyone who would like to attempt some teamwork (even two people working together can produce miracles)can add me to their buddy list, and I would love to do the same to anyone who post's their WOL nickmane. I play at weird hours, but if enough of us hook up, we may be able to reliably find someone with whom to team.
If we keep this kind of pressure and insitance up, we may just make a dent in the rambo league.
WOL: Particlen
email: jorlisa@yahoo.com
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