Everyone started talking about the Famous Flamer rush on that map. The mines started coming out and every rush went down... We ended up winning on points. Now I don't know if it was sheer luck or just good teamwork.

Has anyone noticed that on the smaller maps like Field and Hourglass if a War Fac gets destroyed early it's hard to defeat GDI forces?

All I want to say is good job team on the game!!!

This is mentioned in another post, but in one of the games in Zukkov's channel last night, I was on NoD, and we ended up having only the Hand left. They came at us with Mammoths, Meds, Hotwires bent on mining the MCT, and Mobiuses, but failed of our joint effort in 2 of us defending the attackers and the other one as a technician putting 15 mines at each entrance (though I was annoyed in the middle where I got disconnected and lost my expensive Mendoza). We ended up losing to points, but at least our Hand didn't go down (they had an ion cannon set to go off about 5 seconds after time up )

They get the 1K units - which can handle FT rushes. (Mobi's come to mind)
Plus being an engie is cool - because of all the credit you make repairing/fending off rushes.

The sweet thing is when you capture an enemy APV and run back to their base and hotwire the OBI/HoN --- big suprise -- i've been in a couple of "WTF?" games when your buildings start to blow while your thinking the game is in hand. (Thank you very much Zukkov/Danzigger for that one- LOL)

So - BD is the best thing to do i guess...

and nightaces, it was indeed fun defending the HON last night. i think we all knew that we were going to lose, but we hung in there and defended to the end! good game!!

[ April 21, 2002: Message edited by: zukkov ]

But back to the original post, yes GDI has mean infantry, and people seam to forget that tanks without infantry support, are much much much easier to take out, then just infantry. It doesn't matter which side I'm on but if I can't take out the powerplant/refinery early on. I always go for the infantry producers not the tank producers. Infantry is much more important then tanks.

On maps with fixed defences tanks are more important, because penetrating those bases is extremely difficult to organise without vehicles, especially against GDI.

*Reading my post; so it does depend on # of players, map, team ability etc. afterall.*

You attack the enemy base with the apc/tank combo, the sniper as a passenger and the drivers doing any repairing needed. Once all of the enemy team runs into their hand to repair it from the tank/mrls/artil shots, your beacon guy runs up to their base, defended by the tank/biggun and the sniper. After planting the beacon outside you just sit tight, with the sniper miles away watching the beacon like a hawk.
The enemy team usually tries first to disarm the beacon. When that doesn't work they all run out and try to get the APC that's getting them. If they user flamers/gunners/lasers/engi's this usually works, and you lose the APC. Now the enemy team tries to repair the beacon, but people repairing becaons are so easy to snipe, and there is still a tank/mrls/artil attacking the building all the way through. If by sniping of their own they manage to get your sniper, they usually still lose the structure by the beacon going off. If the beacon is also disarmed the mrls often does the job. If they fully repel your attack, you can gaurantee it's bigger than a 3 player game, so just double your numbers and try again.

bottom line - it's incredible hard to disarm a beacon when a sniper is watching from afar. This tactic takes full advantage of this.

[ April 21, 2002: Message edited by: [uscm]DarkFox ]

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Originally posted by CDRREMLAP:
The other day I was playing on Hourglass and our warfac got destroyed eary on. Now without the ability to build tanks I thought to myself "self... this should be an asswhopin" but to my surprize we won.

Everyone started talking about the Famous Flamer rush on that map. The mines started coming out and every rush went down... We ended up winning on points. Now I don't know if it was sheer luck or just good teamwork.

Has anyone noticed that on the smaller maps like Field and Hourglass if a War Fac gets destroyed early it's hard to defeat GDI forces?

All I want to say is good job team on the game!!!

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Well, this can be explained qyute easily. As soon as a building is destroyed, everyone goes WOHOO! and dont care anymore about teamwork, but the loosing team start to use defence plans. If nod had been bright, they would have get 3 snipers on top of the hill, and used Stank (why Stanks??? secret!!! )to take out the agt. or used art on to of the hill to attack your raf while you were defending against the flamer... But that's true. Once a single building is out, the team gets a lot more coordination.

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Originally posted by Accurain:
The two maps GDI infantry defense happens most on is Islands and Hourglass.
Myself I'm starting to think no tanks is a much better defense. Mobius and Sydney can shred through flamers like nothing else. Stealth tanks go down stupidly fast as well. I've now been on the winning GDI team 5 times on Hourglass and won by points when our WF has been taken down (played sydney each time).

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there is nothing like a mobius to defend a base against flame rush! as for the art, use havoc! you could be surprised how much damage he deals to those nasty things!