| What happend to team-work? [message #-970861] |
Sat, 11 May 2002 07:44  |
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I know Renegade is supposed to be a team based game but, what ever happend to the team? When I play, everyone acts like a loner and does stuff by thmeselves. Sure there is the ocassional engie rush but, where is the 2 Med tank, 1 Mammy tank combo or, the 3 Light tank, 2 Artillery combo. What happend to team-work all around? 
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| What happend to team-work? [message #-970859] |
Sat, 11 May 2002 08:43  |
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by saying "what happened to the teamwork" your implying that it did exist. after 3 days of trying to do some teamwork I gave up because my team is to stupid/retarded to listen to me.
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| What happend to team-work? [message #-970855] |
Sat, 11 May 2002 09:47 |
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I agree with you 100\%
Really, I dont care what my team does anymore. Every time our base is under attack,they just go attack and dont attend to the problem. Today, I was playing on the Mesa Map. I was on the GDI team. All the Nod team did was send one flame tank, and everyone went to go attack. I was the only one trying to blow up the flame. The GDI counterstrike failed, and the flame did some serious damage. I, by myself, blew up the flame. Then my team stared to say,
" Jindi007(me) didn't do nothin." I was shocked and appauled! I was the only one defending, and they did nothing. We lost greatly.Anyways, the point of this post is to show that teamwork is dead, and when you do somthing good for the team, they blame everything on you. [ May 11, 2002: Message edited by: jindi007 ]
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| What happend to team-work? [message #-970854] |
Sat, 11 May 2002 09:53 |
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I agree with you. I noticed a lot of great teamwork during the first month. Now, it's pretty much half and half. I do my best with teamwork by communication as much as I can by informing then of upcoming attacks, vehicle/building/infantry repairs and guarding. What I really hate is a bossy player who think he's Mister Know-It-All. Sometimes, I'll come in a game and this guy is like... "follow me!"
"don't buy the flamer!"
"jeez, u buy artillery? i don't want you!" Sometimes, me and someone else will both buy a flame tank. I come out and get in mine (since I could get in right away, it's obviously mine) and he comes running out accusing me of stealing his when his is sitting right behind him. He then starts requesting the host to kick me out. Sheesh!
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| What happend to team-work? [message #-970852] |
Sat, 11 May 2002 12:40 |
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The only teamwork I ever see is "buy mammoth" and "buy flamer", which usually ends in four mammoths/flamers assembling in the base, with the fifth necessary one trying to run away and die early. Other times, teamwork takes the form of one person buying a med tank, then another sees this and buys MRLS, and another buys a APC, and all three run off to the nod base and die in a uncoordinated, muddled melee.
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| What happend to team-work? [message #-970850] |
Sat, 11 May 2002 12:47 |
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Teamwork is strictly a clan based sport for real gaming. Any FPS on a pub goes under the rules of every man/woman for themself. CS, TFC, HL, UT, Q, OF, MOH, JO, T, T2, ect.
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| What happend to team-work? [message #-970849] |
Sat, 11 May 2002 12:59 |
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People don't listen because they just want to play and fight. Whenever i try to rally plays everyone just ignores me... execpt in some cases.
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| What happend to team-work? [message #-970848] |
Sat, 11 May 2002 15:57 |
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I know if we all just pull together, (I know, thats crusty) we could make the multiplayer way better then it already is. It always feels best to be part of a team and not a loner. WW ment this game to be a team-based multiplayer experience, not a blow off everyones head experience.
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| What happend to team-work? [message #-970847] |
Sat, 11 May 2002 19:09 |
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quote:
Originally posted by jindi007:
I agree with you 100\%
Really, I dont care what my team does anymore. Every time our base is under attack,they just go attack and dont attend to the problem. Today, I was playing on the Mesa Map. I was on the GDI team. All the Nod team did was send one flame tank, and everyone went to go attack. I was the only one trying to blow up the flame. The GDI counterstrike failed, and the flame did some serious damage. I, by myself, blew up the flame. Then my team stared to say,
" Jindi007(me) didn't do nothin." I was shocked and appauled! I was the only one defending, and they did nothing. We lost greatly.Anyways, the point of this post is to show that teamwork is dead, and when you do somthing good for the team, they blame everything on you. [ May 11, 2002: Message edited by: jindi007 ]
The reason why people go to attack (often) is because it gives more points. I think repairing already gives plenty of points, but I think repairing your teammates and killing enemy vehicles in your base should give more points. By the latter I mean that there should be a "designated base area", which should make enemies more valuable in terms of points than they usually are. This would encourage people to defend as they could also get some points for this. Note: I think this would make sense, but if you think it's "from the deep" then just forget about it.
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| What happend to team-work? [message #-970845] |
Sat, 11 May 2002 23:24 |
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Yeah and WW really helped by giving us such amazingly useful radio commands as 'Take the point'  !!
They really should have learned from Tribes 2, in which it was actually quite easy to co-ordinate attacks - 'Defend/Attack the Flag/Generator etc.
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| What happend to team-work? [message #-970844] |
Sun, 12 May 2002 14:26 |
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Try playing on NON LADDERED Servers they don't help your ranking but Team Play does exist on them. Too many people think that the ladder is an All Important Holy Grail type thing. I feel that the ladder does more damage than good for this game. Too many glory hounds wanting to grab points instead of defend or repair or play smart. Then they want to spam "Building needs repair" or "defend the base" while they fail to realize the the one person who is still at the base on defense cant stop the entire enemy force.
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| What happend to team-work? [message #-970841] |
Mon, 13 May 2002 05:32 |
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Teamwork can be achieved, I'v been in games that have been great fun because people listend to what others were saying (especially when a guy from the other team doesn't know how to send team messages and announces to everybody that he has a becon:
DUMBGUY:I have a becon
<long silence>
DUMBGUY:What do you mean don't tell the opposition?
ONEOFOURTEAM:quick get DUMBGUY) 
The one problem with trying to do teamwork is LAGGGGLAGGLLLAAGG!!.
Once on the city map I jumped into a APC of a teammate to comence attack on the GDI base along with four other people.
after a slow start the driver tried to take us up the high road but lag caused him to drive off the side of the ramp and the APC exploded leaving us all dumpfounded.
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| What happend to team-work? [message #-970840] |
Sun, 12 May 2002 18:35 |
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Thats the problem between ranking and non ranking in a ranking game i repair my teammates this will help you win the game. Most of the times the problem is that someone sees a adv engi running in a building and he got a character worth 1000 cr
or he's in a tank. He won't change it with an engi to repair the bombs. Building destroyed.
And those people that ruin the mines. Placing them everywhere but not on the right place. If someone says building needs repair press the [J] key so you can see if it really need repair. Look at this often. Also do this if your gonna shoot a building press the [K] key to look if a building already got damage.
And only say building needs repair when they need it. And for those i need repair messages do this ones OR JUST REPAIR your OWN vehicle.
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| What happend to team-work? [message #-970839] |
Sun, 12 May 2002 20:58 |
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Other thing.....
When you see an apc or transport heli enter your base and your the only one that sees it. What you do.
You can say building needs repair. But al your teammates will think your stupid cause all the buildings are full health.Most of times i say building needs repair defend powerplant to let know wich building i mean.
The problem is how to let your teammates know that there are 5 engis in the Powerplant.
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| What happend to team-work? [message #-970838] |
Sun, 12 May 2002 23:32 |
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quote:
Originally posted by dmc321:
Other thing.....
When you see an apc or transport heli enter your base and your the only one that sees it. What you do.
You can say building needs repair. But al your teammates will think your stupid cause all the buildings are full health.Most of times i say building needs repair defend powerplant to let know wich building i mean.
The problem is how to let your teammates know that there are 5 engis in the Powerplant.
That's because Westwood doesn't want to give us proper radio commands.
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| What happend to team-work? [message #-970837] |
Sun, 12 May 2002 23:36 |
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quote:
Originally posted by dmc321:
Other thing.....
When you see an apc or transport heli enter your base and your the only one that sees it. What you do....
I press F3, type "enemy APC in our base !!" then try to stop them. There is more than radio commands in this game. Most ppl are just to lazy/slow to type. Mfg,
ChaosE Who is General Failure ? And why is he reading my hard disk ?!?
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