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Heres to you fellas! Thank you for having the guts to stick with us in a tough year, and holding to our alliance. America will always be there for you!
Yeh thank us. 1 question: Why do yanks say blair is kissing bushes ass? It's an alliance!!! There ment to stick together and support each other, thats what an alliance is, it's not kissing ass.
about time Edit: no one else likes america enough to properly allie with you
Uk and USA are best allies The americans are the best, I also like dutch people.
kawolsky no one else likes america enough to properly allie with you That's alright. We only want quality help. What good is an ally that promises help, and bails out the first time they get hurt? (See Spain)
I'd especially like to thank you guys for Monty Python.
Let's also not forget about Altoids.
Anyone who called Blair "Bliar" can kiss my ass and get a clue. The British rock
Thanks for the support, but you're only encouraging the crazy fucker in office .
Sad thing is though that they are likely to be attacked just like spain. And if they go for the London underground stations...I dread to think what will happen. And both countries stand to gain by being allies. Britain stands to have a greater influence over the US, and the US stand to influence more over the UK and Europe. Oh and don't forget to pay homage to the cheddar cheese from there. Cali cheese is weak and orange.
British > Americans wwhats all the thanks for??
Britain has been one of our strongest allies in the War on Terror and one of Bush's biggest supporters. It also sent thousands of its own troops to help out in the war in Iraq. Without the help of the British, gaining world support would have been a much more difficult task for George W. Bush, but with its help he managed to get dozens of countries (I forget the exact number, but it was over twenty) to help us out in the ousting of a madman and making the world a safer place. *Raises beer mug* Here's to Britain!
Well, what ever helps us lose the idea that we have bad teeth and speak like the queen, and drink tea all day.
yea, i hate that stereo type....iv been told that were known more as badly behaved, especially by the idiots in turkey, whos asses we kick everytime we go over there
Yes, britain is the besterest country you could ever call a rat infested stink hole. The british people though, hmmmm... They rock too! I like my cheddar and stilton and tea and crumpets and Benny Hill and UCAS and London and the M25 and Woolworths and Sainsburys and Bournville choccy and strawberries and cream and most of all I love the pubs! EVERYONE COME TO BRITAIN WHERE IT'S ALL RAINY AND HAPPY!!! DANCE!
hydra1945 Britain has been one of our strongest allies in the War on Terror and one of Bush's biggest supporters. It also sent thousands of its own troops to help out in the war in Iraq. Without the help of the British, gaining world support would have been a much more difficult task for George W. Bush, but with its help he managed to get dozens of countries (I forget the exact number, but it was over twenty) to help us out in the ousting of a madman and making the world a safer place. *Raises beer mug* Here's to Britain! That ain't exactly world support ... over twenty countries? That's nothing. The only countries that did anything besides sign their name to a "Coalition" was the Brits and Spain, who obviously isn't quite as helpful anymore. Don't know where you get the idea that we have world support. And how do you Brits feel about the Iraq war? I'm not gonna get into it too much here because 95% of the forum is conservative and there's no point in trying, but I just wanted a general consensus of your opinions.
There was lots of opposition to it over there. Many people support the decision though. Just like here really. Though I doubt that Tony Blair will win the election by a landslide like he did the last two terms because of this decision.
smwScott hydra1945 Britain has been one of our strongest allies in the War on Terror and one of Bush's biggest supporters. It also sent thousands of its own troops to help out in the war in Iraq. Without the help of the British, gaining world support would have been a much more difficult task for George W. Bush, but with its help he managed to get dozens of countries (I forget the exact number, but it was over twenty) to help us out in the ousting of a madman and making the world a safer place. *Raises beer mug* Here's to Britain! That ain't exactly world support ... over twenty countries? That's nothing. The only countries that did anything besides sign their name to a "Coalition" was the Brits and Spain, who obviously isn't quite as helpful anymore. Don't know where you get the idea that we have world support. No it wasn't support from the whole world, but from the most powerfull nations.
KIRBY098 America will always be there for you! Until they decide that the way Britain does things is Anti-American...
I'm wondering if (we) holland, stay in iraq or not.
longbow Well, what ever helps us lose the idea that we have bad teeth and speak like the queen, and drink tea all day. Yeah, I'm sick of that stereotype, it's only 66% correct.
DaveGMM KIRBY098 America will always be there for you! Until they decide that the way Britain does things is Anti-American... Pacifying Hitler was anti-American. We were still there for you, weren't we? http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/PRchamberlain.htm Maybee we can get another pacification goverment for you to make a deal with Al Quaeda.
You're trying to make some kind of point...?
DaveGMM You're trying to make some kind of point...? Yup. Support your PM. He's got more balls than all the pacifists in Britain put together. He knows the real threat, and is doing something about it, even though it isn't popular. A man of vision.
who cares about all that? we`ve got americans hailing us
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KIRBY098 Heres to you fellas! Thank you for having the guts to stick with us in a tough year, and holding to our alliance. America will always be there for you! Sorry to disapoint mate, but the general populace have little to do with it, u need to thank that smarmy prick called Tony Blair, and when u say america will always be there for us, do u mean in the way that the US put tax levys on european steel imports or the way that the usa's fiscal policy has devalued the dollar to increase US exports and decrease imports from europe, thus improving your economy but doing damage to ours? no flame inteneded, but everything isnt as simple as black and white
DanSolo KIRBY098 Heres to you fellas! Thank you for having the guts to stick with us in a tough year, and holding to our alliance. America will always be there for you! Sorry to disapoint mate, but the general populace have little to do with it, u need to thank that smarmy prick called Tony Blair, and when u say america will always be there for us, do u mean in the way that the US put tax levys on european steel imports or the way that the usa's fiscal policy has devalued the dollar to increase US exports and decrease imports from europe, thus improving your economy but doing damage to ours? no flame inteneded, but everything isnt as simple as black and white No, you smarmy prick. I mean in the way of the Blitz, and invasions. That sort of thing. If the European economy is so devastated by the U.S. levies, then why is the Euro worth more? Nothing ever is simple.
Sorry you guys decided to go with the EU but we DO have to watch out for our own economy.
KIRBY098 DanSolo KIRBY098 Heres to you fellas! Thank you for having the guts to stick with us in a tough year, and holding to our alliance. America will always be there for you! Sorry to disapoint mate, but the general populace have little to do with it, u need to thank that smarmy prick called Tony Blair, and when u say america will always be there for us, do u mean in the way that the US put tax levys on european steel imports or the way that the usa's fiscal policy has devalued the dollar to increase US exports and decrease imports from europe, thus improving your economy but doing damage to ours? Although i am grateful for the help provided, (as i cant speak german for shit) i jsut wanted to remind you that everything isnt as simple as black and white no flame inteneded, but everything isnt as simple as black and white No, you smarmy prick. I mean in the way of the Blitz, and invasions. That sort of thing. If the European economy is so devastated by the U.S. levies, then why is the Euro worth more? Nothing ever is simple. if you knew the first thing about economics and if you actually ready my post and if you actually did some research, you would find that i stated that the US's fiscal policy devalued the dollar on purpose, as this has the effect of making it cheaper for overseas countries to export from the US but it makes foriegn imports more expensive for american companies, thus increasing demand for home made US goods but making the rest of the worlds goods more expensive to import, and thus lowering demand for them. If you insist on going back to the blitz, maybe you would find it interesting to know that the US didnt help out of the goodness of your hearts, the US was happy to sit back and watch europe destroy itself, only when Pearl Harbour wars attacked did you interviene. Once you did interviene you did not do it for the good of the world as a whole, the US demanded payment for its help in the war, which led to the down fall of the "british empire", sounds like a mercenary action to me. once again no flame is intended just a little reality check
Bliar can suck bush his balls when they got there damn tea time
DanSolo if you knew the first thing about economics and if you actually ready my post and if you actually did some research, you would find that i stated that the US's fiscal policy devalued the dollar on purpose, as this has the effect of making it cheaper for overseas countries to export from the US but it makes foriegn imports more expensive for american companies, thus increasing demand for home made US goods but making the rest of the worlds goods more expensive to import, and thus lowering demand for them. If you insist on going back to the blitz, maybe you would find it interesting to know that the US didnt help out of the goodness of your hearts, the US was happy to sit back and watch europe destroy itself, only when Pearl Harbour wars attacked did you interviene. Once you did interviene you did not do it for the good of the world as a whole, the US demanded payment for its help in the war, which led to the down fall of the "british empire", sounds like a mercenary action to me. once again no flame is intended just a little reality check SIGH.... Downfall of the empire? C'mon now. The empire was in decline since America broke free in the revolution. The U.S. actually had a non-interference policy back then which was a result of the backlash of WW1 trench warfare and chemical warfare. Ever heard of the bases for ships deal which proves America's president was trying to get involved BEFORE Pearl, and what of the Marshall plan to rebuild ALL of Europe after the war? Detroyers for bases deal: http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq59-24.htm Marshall Plan: http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/marshall/ WW2 was probably the most selfless war America has ever fought. It was fought to preserve the democracies that existed at the time. It was not fought for economics, as our economy could survive isolation at the time, and it was not fought because we wanted the end of the british empire. We did not take over. Each country was restored, and is independent. The empire was VOLUNTARILY dismantled by BRITAIN, using the commonwealth system. This system is still in effect, which former colonies still part of Britain. (See Bermuda) Isreal was created VOLUNTARILY by the BRITISH in one of thier former territories. Establishment of Isreal: http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/is.html You need to read up a bit, chum. Why do you people constantly question me? I consistently prove you wrong.
Quote: Ever heard of the bases for ships deal which proves America's president was trying to get involved BEFORE Pearl, and what of the Marshall plan to rebuild ALL of Europe after the war? What rebuild "ALL" of EU? Not all countries fought in ww2, so your statement to rebuild ALL countries are wrong.
[HLOW Tomten] Quote: Ever heard of the bases for ships deal which proves America's president was trying to get involved BEFORE Pearl, and what of the Marshall plan to rebuild ALL of Europe after the war? What rebuild "ALL" of EU? Not all countries fought in ww2, so your statement to rebuild ALL countries are wrong. Ok, since you want to get technical: Holland was rolled over, as was Belgium, and the sudetenland. Austria was annexed, and the Swiss did thier usual "leave us be" thing. Your point? All combatant nations in Europe received aid through the Marshall Plan that were not Soviet Block puppets. Oh, and by the way, there was no "E.U." back then, so your statement is invalid. I never referred to the E.U. . You did.
Either Way 1) The US government has been manipulating its currency, to the detriment of the rest of the world 2) Bases for ships, hardly an undying show of support, it still requests something in return for the use of US equipment.
DanSolo Either Way 1) The US government has been manipulating its currency, to the detriment of the rest of the world 2) Bases for ships, hardly an undying show of support, it still requests something in return for the use of US equipment. Yes. But what was that request? Bases to further support the war effort that we weren't officially in yet. And when the war was over the bases were returned to Britain, effectively GIVING the British all those ships. And if you think the EU isn't trying to do the same thing to the rest of the world, you have no concept of economics in a capitalist society. That idea that America is devalueing it's currency for economic gain, and leverage is absolute trash, and a total contradiction. A powerful U.S. dollar is in the best interests of America.
DAN you suck balls we have a right to what is best for OUR country YOU joined the EU and the EU is not all that friendly to OUR economy. Drop your import restrictions lower YOUR own GODDAMN tarrifs. Why the fuck do some of you euro trash (no offense to the rest the of you) want to to whine about what is by definition OUR own internal policies yet cannot handle YOUR own internal problems without OUR involvement. Drop the issues of penis envy already. America still has the biggest one on the block despite the EU having with HOW many countries? Sorry but the dollar is still the benchmark for the rest of the world as far as it goes .... wait a minue I am not sorry for for that. We worked hard for that position. And far as not supporting GB before Pearl Harbor get it straight look at the losses suffered by a supposedly nuertal country in merchant marine before we even entered the war ..... how about American lives lost supporting GB through the merchant marine after? http://www.usmm.org/shipsunkdamaged.html http://www.usmm.org/sunk39-41.html#anchor325668 and look at all the ships detained by YOUR country rpior to our entry. How many Americans lost their lives to invade the ciontinent again so YOU could whine about OUR economic policies. I suppose we could have done nothing and you would be still raising your arm in salute of Das Fuhrer. So go tell it to someone who cares about your sniveling whiny attitude. Onwe mreo thing arther than whiing about it WW2 I would prefer to be thanked about saving your miserable worthless whining overly self riteous ass from singing the Horst Wessel song everyday at school. Disclaimer: I do realize many if not most from England are ok (Dave Andy and so forth) but I get my blood pressure up when wankers like this just have no clue as to how the world works.
hareman DAN you suck balls we have a right to what is best for OUR country YOU joined the EU and the EU is not all that friendly to OUR economy. Drop your import restrictions lower YOUR own GODDAMN tarrifs. Why the fuck do some of you euro trash (no offense to the rest the of you) want to to whine about what is by definition OUR own internal policies yet cannot handle YOUR own internal problems without OUR involvement. Drop the issues of penis envy already. America still has the biggest one on the block despite the EU having with HOW many countries? Sorry but the dollar is still the benchmark for the rest of the world as far as it goes .... wait a minue I am not sorry for for that. We worked hard for that position. And far as not supporting GB before Pearl Harbor get it straight look at the losses suffered by a supposedly nuertal country in merchant marine before we even entered the war ..... how about American lives lost supporting GB through the merchant marine after? http://www.usmm.org/shipsunkdamaged.html http://www.usmm.org/sunk39-41.html#anchor325668 and look at all the ships detained by YOUR country rpior to our entry. How many Americans lost their lives to invade the ciontinent again so YOU could whine about OUR economic policies. I suppose we could have done nothing and you would be still raising your arm in salute of Das Fuhrer. So go tell it to someone who cares about your sniveling whiny attitude. Onwe mreo thing arther than whiing about it WW2 I would prefer to be thanked about saving your miserable worthless whining overly self riteous ass from singing the Horst Wessel song everyday at school. Disclaimer: I do realize many if not most from England are ok (Dave Andy and so forth) but I get my blood pressure up when wankers like this just have no clue as to how the world works. Which brings us back to our original point. The U.K. is worth fighting for. America has always thought so. It always will. American soldiers will die alongside British as long as you'll let us. AND TO EMPHASIZE THIS POINT, AND SHOW THAT AMERICA ISN'T ABOUT "GETTING SOMETHING" IN RETURN : We liberated France. What possible gain could there be in that circumstance?
HaHa I spemt 22 months in a god forsaken place called Poole. Talk about the ass end of nowhere. but the people were as good as any I have met ..... anywhere
hareman HaHa I spemt 22 months in a god forsaken place called Poole. Talk about the ass end of nowhere. but the people were as good as any I have met ..... anywhere A place with that many pubs can't be bad.
"KIRBY098" "[HLOW Tomten"] Quote: Ever heard of the bases for ships deal which proves America's president was trying to get involved BEFORE Pearl, and what of the Marshall plan to rebuild ALL of Europe after the war? What rebuild "ALL" of EU? Not all countries fought in ww2, so your statement to rebuild ALL countries are wrong. Ok, since you want to get technical: Holland was rolled over, as was Belgium, and the sudetenland. Austria was annexed, and the Swiss did thier usual "leave us be" thing. Your point? All combatant nations in Europe received aid through the Marshall Plan that were not Soviet Block puppets. Oh, and by the way, there was no "E.U." back then, so your statement is invalid. I never referred to the E.U. . You did. You forgot Sweden (Europe country, look it up if you dont know where it is), not one german bomb landed here so...well...your statement is still wrong.
[HLOW Tomten] KIRBY098 [HLOW Tomten] Quote: Ever heard of the bases for ships deal which proves America's president was trying to get involved BEFORE Pearl, and what of the Marshall plan to rebuild ALL of Europe after the war? What rebuild "ALL" of EU? Not all countries fought in ww2, so your statement to rebuild ALL countries are wrong. Ok, since you want to get technical: Holland was rolled over, as was Belgium, and the sudetenland. Austria was annexed, and the Swiss did thier usual "leave us be" thing. Your point? All combatant nations in Europe received aid through the Marshall Plan that were not Soviet Block puppets. Oh, and by the way, there was no "E.U." back then, so your statement is invalid. I never referred to the E.U. . You did. You forgot Sweden (Europe country, look it up if you dont know where it is), not one german bomb landed here so...well...your statement is still wrong. Listen you legalistic moron, see the highlighted word. I can't see how you keep missing this point. And the reason Sweden wasn't invaded............. http://www.geocities.com/pelle108/history/part14/part_14.htm They were sending war materials to Germany, so they wouldn't get invaded by them. How very very noble. :rolleyes: Look it up if you don't know where it is. Now, shut up, and read up. You clearly do not have what it takes to participate in mental judo.
I dont know whats your problem but atleast I havent called you a moron, why dont you go and read a book for "polite for newbies" or something?
hareman HaHa I spemt 22 months in a god forsaken place called Poole. Talk about the ass end of nowhere. but the people were as good as any I have met ..... anywhere I happen to live in that "ass end of nowhere", you know....
Quote: We liberated France. What possible gain could there be in that circumstance? Why does everyone hate the French so much? Everywhere I go, someone's alwways saying how stupid the French are, blah blah, blah blah blah.
Dave, I know for a fact you DO NOT live on Poole, I never said England was. LOL And its people are made a country great ....
In English, please
Its the people that make a country great .... sorry lol
"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." -- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials
Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar.
My point? the difference between patriotism and fanatasism is a fine line. Go to war because there is no longer a rational and reasonable alternative, not because someone says your being unpatriotic, or un american. I'm not anti american, you have your good, bad and ugly just like anywhere else. Including the UK. I'll buy this war on terror story when you jail all those NORAID people for funding and supporting terrorism.
There's something called an edit button....
<sigh> HIJACKED
there's also something called an ignore button.
Indeed, and it still looks out of place.
longbow No it wasn't support from the whole world, but from the most powerfull nations. I'm sorry but this just made me laugh so hard The most powerful nations in the world, right: Quote: Official US List of Nations With Official Stance in Favor of US Iraq Action Source: US State Department Afghanistan Albania Australia Azerbaijan Bulgaria Colombia The Czech Republic Denmark El Salvador Eritrea Estonia Ethiopia Georgia Hungary Italy Japan South Korea Latvia Lithuania Macedonia The Netherlands Nicaragua The Philippines Poland Romania Slovakia Spain Turkey United Kingdom Uzbekistan Note the absence of all Western European powers except the US foreign post in Europe (the UK), plus Russia, India, China, etc...... Most powerful...right
errr...India and China are in ASIA. And just because they have a lot of population doesn't mean they're powerful. We're not the largest nation, yet we (US) are by FAR the most powerful nation in the world.
j_ball430 errr...India and China are in ASIA. And just because they have a lot of population doesn't mean they're powerful. We're not the largest nation, yet we (US) are by FAR the most powerful nation in the world. Who ever said that India and China are not in Asia? Leave an isolationist hole and you'll find out that countries like Russia, India, China are quite powerful. Militarily for now, and economically as time goes on. The US is not as high up in the world as you think... yes, singly the most powerful military force, but when you have more than one of these powers mentioned at once, it's a different story... My point is not that, however - my point is that the US "coalition" is nothing more than the US and the UK with some add-ons there so that they can say - "Oh - we have 30 nations on our side." And of course Eritrea and Azerbaijan, together with the superpowers of Ethiopia and El Salvador, are, as longbow says, "the most powerful nations."
only cause u edited ur above post because i sure as hell don't remember half of that sentence that you have on there.
j_ball430 only cause u edited ur above post because i sure as hell don't remember half of that sentence that you have on there. The edit consisted of adding one word that was left out, and it was made before your post anyhow...
same time edited at 3:08 and mine was posted at 3:08, so maybe ur right, but w/e.