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Black cell has some lame ass Mods. They think they are so smart. This Major Dickhead guy tbanned me for c4 in Carnage club map. Cause they have power to ban people dosnt mean it should be abused. Its only a game people. GET A LIFE
LOL maybe you should have read the rules NO C4 on carnage club LOL
Um i thought the penalty was a tempkick then allowence. They must have changed it...
wanaburnu Black cell has some lame ass Mods. They think they are so smart. This Major Dickhead guy tbanned me for c4 in Carnage club map. Cause they have power to ban people dosnt mean it should be abused. Its only a game people. GET A LIFE Yea dude, timed C4's aren't allowed in Carnage Club.
Unfortunately, he's right about the jackasses in Black Cell. Thinking I cheat, they banned me from their servers. Yet they run my levels. How much sense does that make?
Instead of signing up here, to make one post about a server that has nothing to do with this forum other then they both are involveing Renegade. Why didn't you just make a post on there forums?
Cpo64 Instead of signing up here, to make one post about a server that has nothing to do with this forum other then they both are involveing Renegade. Why didn't you just make a post on there forums? That would make too much sense...
I hate to disagree with some of you here, but they are in fact gods. Gods of their own server. If you pay for a server to be online, you have EVERY RIGHT to kick or ban whoever you want for any reason. But in this case, the rules were stated and you broke them. Not much you can do except admit you made a mistake and maybe they'll unban you.
I play on their server everyonce in a while, one of then kicked me for asking about the ladder thing when they had their own ladder going, I think I asked how many games you have to play before your on the ladder, and their response was. . . OMG J00 n00b LOL! HA HA HA HA HA! ETC ETC ETC
wanaburnu Black cell has some lame ass Mods. They think they are so smart. This Major Dickhead guy tbanned me for c4 in Carnage club map. Cause they have power to ban people dosnt mean it should be abused. Its only a game people. GET A LIFE There is so much hypocrisy in the above quote that it's not even funny, wait, it is funny... 1. How can you judge how dumb someone is when you can't even write a complete sentence without screwing it up and spelling something wrong? Compared to you they're Einsteins. 2. You deserved the ban, don't follow the rules and you get the consequences. 3. Just because they have the power to ban people... does completely mean that they can abuse it. Furthermore, they weren't abusing their powers if they banned you because you chose to break their rules. 4. So they shouldn't enforce their rules because it's just a game? Why the hell are you even crying about being banned from their server, it's just a game remember? You GET A LIFE
Well, I only have alittle bit of animousity with two people on that server. This happened last MMN. We were playing Flight Deck and I mined the area around the base with Proximity c4. Well one of the "half mods" Kytten came by our base. (Here is the exact conversation.) "They have mines." Kytten. "Well Duh, we may have base level intelligence but we are not that stupid." Me. "Speak fer yerself." Pp147. "Shut the fuck up." Kytten. "Wow some people can really adapt to a sarcastic statement." Me. "No I was surprised that to find out you had base level intelligence and then I told you to shut the fuck up." Kytten. "I'm surprised to find out that you don't under the sarcastic point to the English language." Me. "You just need to understand that you have to shut the fuck up." Kytten. "You just need to realize that there is something called FREEDOM OF SPEECH." Me. "You need to understand that the internet isn't a democracy."Pp147. "No, its pretty much a democracy not a depotism unless the host or people with their powers is on." Me. "He doesn't think he has to listen to what we say." Kytten. *Someone on IRC said something at this time.* I love how people demand respect on servers that are not theirs. But when they are on their own servers and someone demands that kind of respect they treat them like shit. This is why I try to only play MMN when neither of them are on. They have issues with people that don't put up with their asinine shit. EDIT: I'm not banned but if they probably see this I will be.
Sorry champ, but you are mistaken. There is no freedom of speech on the internet. You can try and argue it however you want, but there isn't any freedom of speech. Sure, you can type out whatever you want, but there are people who will remove your statements, or remove you from making those statements; thus no freedom.
Javaxcx Sorry champ, but you are mistaken. There is no freedom of speech on the internet. You can try and argue it however you want, but there isn't any freedom of speech. Sure, you can type out whatever you want, but there are people who will remove your statements, or remove you from making those statements; thus no freedom. LOL, sorry the champ comment was funny. Yea, well I wasn't removed, my comment wasn't remove and I was even bitched at by people who are too arrorgant for the human gene pool. Only thing that pisses me off is the fact that they demand respect an any server that isn;t theirs and when someoen joins their server they don't give them that kind of respect.
yea, some people playing this game really are stupid, to the full extent of the word. p.s. Kytten was probably going through some stage of PMS (pre mensual syndrome) <--spelling?
Kytten was really pissed off all MMN with the people not following rules. She jsut must have chosen u 2 lash out at. Well, the only person that will really know is kytten
Hopefully you got from my statement that I do not HATE her or anyone for that. Just alittle bit of friction that I'm pretty much over and don't care. I just wanted to state my past experiences.
Ok, Kytten Temp Banned you because you ignored her. 1st you used timed c4 and were kicked, then you came back and ignored her repeated warinings. That is why you were Temp Banned. Now you come here and start bad mouthing the BC servers, what is the point in that? The black cell servers are some of the best out there, the mods are all really good people when you get to know them and dont go round causing trouble and breaking the rules.
When we played that map you shot your mouth off i didnt command or expect any respect from you at all-i have never even seen you before so how the hell would i expect that off you???? but i notice you left a lot out of that chat log? wonder why? is it coz i later explained myself in public chat in front of everyone.....i was annoyed at the time yes and i lost it with you which i shouldnt have but you forgave me later mistake me if im wrong and no i didnt have pms!!!!!! But next time you would like to bitch about me.......tell me to my face so i have time to defend my actions/ words and if everyone hates Black-cell so much and thinks we are a bunch of losers then why post about it, your equally as pathetic bitching about a server you in your words dont give two shits about!!! CAN I REMIND YOU ALL IT SAID GAME ON THE PACKET!!!
Aircraftkiller Unfortunately, he's right about the jackasses in Black Cell. Thinking I cheat, they banned me from their servers. Yet they run my levels. How much sense does that make? you were banned for alot of reasons. No one really gives a shit if you cheat or not, we would have banned you anyways. Sorry, but we don't like having people join whenever the game hits their maps and then they sit there and go "I made this map, you should get on your knees and suck my cock because I never get any in real life" as for the whole thing with Kytten...us mods are all sick of babysitting people. every time we join a game it's a damn witch hunt for cheaters and on top of that we have to worry about other people breaking the rules. you're right, she shouldn't have tbanned you, she should have sat there, waiting for you to join, and as soon as you did, kick you, again and again. It's a great stress reliever, and if someone doesn't follow the rules, they deserve it
Quote: you were banned for alot of reasons. No one really gives a shit if you cheat or not, we would have banned you anyways. Sorry, but we don't like having people join whenever the game hits their maps and then they sit there and go "I made this map, you should get on your knees and suck my cock because I never get any in real life" You want to prove what you're saying here? Those kind of statements are usually called slander, especially when unable to back them up. Unless your entire point was to make random insults to try and justify what you do on your servers - which makes me wonder if you enjoy having n00bs on your servers because no one else will play there. I fail to understand something. Without me here, you wouldn't have almost anything on your server except standard game levels and some half-hour wonders that look like a box with a texture on it. Yet you slag off on me because you don't like me saying "I made this, are you enjoying it?" in-game every so often? That hardly constitutes "Get on your knees and suck my cock," if that's even POSSIBLE on-line... retard.
wow ACK, what can I say? I mean, I thought it was possible to suck someones cock over the internet. I guess you stumped me again with that amazing intellect of yours. oh, and your right smart guy, that was slander. Now what are you gonna do about it? I feel no need to justify what we do in our servers, simple fact of the matter is that you're pissed that there's a popular server out there that's running 1 of your maps and you cant play on it.
Kytten9 When we played that map you shot your mouth off i didnt command or expect any respect from you at all-i have never even seen you before so how the hell would i expect that off you???? but i notice you left a lot out of that chat log? wonder why? is it coz i later explained myself in public chat in front of everyone.....i was annoyed at the time yes and i lost it with you which i shouldnt have but you forgave me later mistake me if im wrong and no i didnt have pms!!!!!! But next time you would like to bitch about me.......tell me to my face so i have time to defend my actions/ words and if everyone hates Black-cell so much and thinks we are a bunch of losers then why post about it, your equally as pathetic bitching about a server you in your words dont give two shits about!!! CAN I REMIND YOU ALL IT SAID GAME ON THE PACKET!!! I'm not sure if this is directed at me. If it is you're right I forgot to put I logged out ~ 4 minutes after that because my father wanted the computer because it was around 1:30 am. I'm on EST. So I really couldn't tell him no as well he just got out of working 8 hours in a factory. So as I said, I'm not angry with any of it and if you explained yourself I missed it. But thats also why I said I don't hate you nor anyone because it was just a moment of friction. EDIT: I don't think anyone that runs Black Cell serves is a loser nor do I hate the server itself. They are on par with Dantefds and FoD servers.
How can you suck someone's cock online you fucking idiot? Text does not make a person sitting in front of you performing said act. IT IS NOT REAL. :rolleyes: Popular, hardly. I've laid out my reasons - if it were up to me you wouldn't be running anything of mine due to your blatent disrespect. I'm sure you wouldn't want someone running something you made, just to flaunt it in your face and talk shit about you. You stupid fuck, think about it. There are other people in life who have emotions, beyond your depressed teenage mental anguish.
Aircraftkiller I'm sure you wouldn't want someone running something you made, just to flaunt it in your face and talk shit about you. Isn't that basically contradicting themselves. Like they hate you but like your work?
Aircraftkiller Yet you slag off on me because you don't like me saying "I made this, are you enjoying it?" in-game every so often? That made me chuckle I don't think I've ever seen you ask that, and even if you did... I wouldn't like to be the person who said they weren't enjoying it
Crimson I hate to disagree with some of you here, but they are in fact gods. Gods of their own server. If you pay for a server to be online, you have EVERY RIGHT to kick or ban whoever you want for any reason. But in this case, the rules were stated and you broke them. Not much you can do except admit you made a mistake and maybe they'll unban you. I agree with u crimson 100%
Aircraftkiller How can you suck someone's cock online you fucking idiot? Text does not make a person sitting in front of you performing said act. IT IS NOT REAL. no ACK, what do you mean? it is real, it just has to be. Without the internet, you dont have a life. How can that be true? You are the all knowing GOD of Renegade, without you, we're lost oh, and if it were up to me, we wouldn't be running BunkersTS either, we'd put a map up that didn't lick total monkey balls instead.
Slicer_238 Aircraftkiller I'm sure you wouldn't want someone running something you made, just to flaunt it in your face and talk shit about you. Isn't that basically contradicting themselves. Like they hate you but like your work? He does moderately nice work, but it certainly doesn't make up for his personality, or lack thereof...
Aircraftkiller How can you suck someone's cock online you fucking idiot? Text does not make a person sitting in front of you performing said act. IT IS NOT REAL. He meant that for THE SYMBOLISM, RETARD.
Scrumfy Slicer_238 Aircraftkiller I'm sure you wouldn't want someone running something you made, just to flaunt it in your face and talk shit about you. Isn't that basically contradicting themselves. Like they hate you but like your work? He does moderately nice work, but it certainly doesn't make up for his personality, or lack thereof... In your opinion, that is. If we're going to talk about personalities, lets not forget that you refuse to return to #n00bstories because I'm still a SOp in there - your whining tirade failed. Shows how much you respect anyone when you don't get your way. Quote: He meant that for THE SYMBOLISM, RETARD. Err... haha. If you think text online really symbolizes oral sex, you're fucked up. Quote: oh, and if it were up to me, we wouldn't be running BunkersTS either, we'd put a map up that didn't lick total monkey balls instead. Go for it! Quote: no ACK, what do you mean? it is real, it just has to be. Without the internet, you dont have a life. How can that be true? You are the all knowing GOD of Renegade, without you, we're lost I see an Assclown Award candidate. "Awarded for proficiency in not knowing what the fuck you're talking about." Quote: That made me chuckle I don't think I've ever seen you ask that, and even if you did... I wouldn't like to be the person who said they weren't enjoying it Usually I say: "Well, if you don't like it, why are you still here?"
Scrumfy Slicer_238 Aircraftkiller I'm sure you wouldn't want someone running something you made, just to flaunt it in your face and talk shit about you. Isn't that basically contradicting themselves. Like they hate you but like your work? He does moderately nice work, but it certainly doesn't make up for his personality, or lack thereof... I didn't say anything about personality all I said is that they are basically saying "I want your map, just not you." His attidtue and personality are not mentioned in my statement. He already admitted to be arrorgant I think was the term he used. So I'm not going to keep saying it to him. Thats like going up to a fat person and saying "You fat bastard." They know their fat, its not going to bother them.
Slicer_238 Javaxcx Sorry champ, but you are mistaken. There is no freedom of speech on the internet. You can try and argue it however you want, but there isn't any freedom of speech. Sure, you can type out whatever you want, but there are people who will remove your statements, or remove you from making those statements; thus no freedom. LOL, sorry the champ comment was funny. Yea, well I wasn't removed, my comment wasn't remove and I was even bitched at by people who are too arrorgant for the human gene pool. Only thing that pisses me off is the fact that they demand respect an any server that isn;t theirs and when someoen joins their server they don't give them that kind of respect. Thats because the owners of your little game didn't care as to what you said. I dare you to go on a racist streek on any respectable forum and see how far your little "freedom of speech" notion goes.
Javaxcx Thats because the owners of your little game didn't care as to what you said. I dare you to go on a racist streek on any respectable forum and see how far your little "freedom of speech" notion goes. Racist streek? Frankly I'm not racist in the least.
Aircraftkiller Usually I say: "Well, if you don't like it, why are you still here?" Hehe, yeah that's more like it I've seen you say that before... among other things which won't be repeated
Aircraftkiller That hardly constitutes "Get on your knees and suck my cock," if that's even POSSIBLE on-line Duke of Nukes I thought it was possible to suck someones cock over the internet. I guess you stumped me again with that amazing intellect of yours. Aircraftkiller How can you suck someone's cock online you fucking idiot? Text does not make a person sitting in front of you performing said act. IT IS NOT REAL. Aircraftkiller Quote: He meant that for THE SYMBOLISM, RETARD. Err... haha. If you think text online really symbolizes oral sex, you're fucked up. Guess what? When you feign stupidity, you're going to get perfect results. ...Of course, I'm assuming that you actually aren't that oblivious to the language which you so extensively critique.
Quote: Aircraftkiller wrote: Quote: Duke of Nukes wrote: Quote: Aircraftkiller wrote: Quote: Javaxcx wrote: Quote: Slicer_238 wrote: :rolleyes: Oy this is getting Owwwweeeellllld.
Black-Cell.net admins pay 149 dollars a month for BCServ4, they spend endless hours improving DragonServ, you join their server and waste their 750gb a month bandwidth yet you do NOTHING for the server. You piss off a moderator, break a rule, she kicks you from the server join you were on for free. Now, don't ignore the fact the hours that moderator donates to that server. Unless you help pay for that server you have ZERO rights in decision making. And don't tell me anything different. Do you pay taxes to your town/state/country? Yes. What would happen if you didn't? You'd get "kicked" from the country. If anything you should be kissing the feet of the server owners. People like that disgust me. Give them something for free and they whine that it isn't good or fair enough, no better than a spoiled brat of a kid.
Aircraftkiller In your opinion, that is. If we're going to talk about personalities, lets not forget that you refuse to return to #n00bstories because I'm still a SOp in there - your whining tirade failed. Shows how much you respect anyone when you don't get your way. If only you knew...Again, you're off thinking it's all about you. I left that place you call a network, because I didn't like the way things were run...I could care less about you, considering that the almighty owner of this place decided to make you her bitch anyway. Oh, and the constant attacks and threats were fun, too... I'm so sorry I left an IRC channel based on a site dedicated to whining about the actions of others :rolleyes:
Scrumfy Aircraftkiller In your opinion, that is. If we're going to talk about personalities, lets not forget that you refuse to return to #n00bstories because I'm still a SOp in there - your whining tirade failed. Shows how much you respect anyone when you don't get your way. If only you knew...Again, you're off thinking it's all about you. I left that place you call a network, because I didn't like the way things were run...I could care less about you, considering that the almighty owner of this place decided to make you her bitch anyway. Oh, and the constant attacks and threats were fun, too... I'm so sorry I left an IRC channel based on a site dedicated to whining about the actions of others :rolleyes: Yeah, that's rich. We had an agreement when we linked servers that no one would /kill anyone who was only in the channel of another server owner. Meaning people only in #n00bstories couldn't be killed by Black Cell folks, and we n00bstories IRCops wouldn't kill people who weren't in our channels... all that thrown out the window when someone is abusing network rules. You guys continually refused to give me the same respect I gave you. I never once killed anyone on your servers. And yet you killed members of my channel who weren't on your servers or in your channels. You broke your side of the bargain. When you said you wanted to de-link, it was good riddance to bad rubbish. Yes, I am the "almighty owner of this place". As I said before, you guys are god in your server, I'm god(dess) in mine. It's very simple. I (and Blazer and djlaptop) pay for the n00bstories server and bandwidth. I do my damndest to make the site and other services a fun place to stay... a fun place to visit and visit often. I love how you all fall back on "OMG your site makes fun of others!" -- it's so old. You ever hear of "America's Funniest Home Videos"? That was half an hour every week of people fucking up on tape. How many videos circulate the internet when someone fucks up? Guess what? It's human nature to laugh at other people's mistakes. It's also human nature to want to vent when someone pisses you off when you're trying to play a game. That's the goal of the site. Anyone who says "OMG your site makes fun of others" is just trying to make themselves look all high and noble. Why don't you also say: I help old ladies cross the street! I volunteer 40 hours a week in a nursing home reading books to the elderly! I spent 20 hours a week cleaning up trash at the park! You're no saint. If you think the attacks against my server were my fault, then you're an even bigger moron than I thought... I didn't think it was possible to be dumber than a rock.
Well, thanks for clarifying my theory that you used people until you were through needing their assistance, then you talk shit about them and move on to another group. Reminds me of The Matrix and that virus speech. I wonder if the Black Cell people will see the light with you, Scrumfy. Oh, and SS - I wouldn't be talking about respecting anyone's servers. After all, you gave out the hub IP of n00bstories IRC to the DoS attackers. Real respect you have, jackass.
SS217 Do you pay taxes to your town/state/country? Yes. What would happen if you didn't? You'd get "kicked" from the country. No. You would be fined a large sum of money and/or sent to jail to live off of other tax payers' money...
Notice how the quotes around the kicked symbolize that it was an example that worked with the theme of my post. Notice how I said NOTHING about NS IRC, that was Scrumfy so leave me out of it, yeah, I've admitted that I took one step too far but I'm not begging anyone's forgiveness. Nor will I ever do so. All I ever try to do is make my servers fun, and orderly places to live, every kill done to your users in your channels solely were well thought out. We knew the rules. And generally our users were orderly they kept to the bcservs and my channels, now and then joining #n00bstories. But some of your users (ex. AuroraX0 spamming OperServ with "OMFG NETSPILT0R") were deserving of discipline, so we took paddles and kicked them off the network. No, majkent, we really didn't use paddles, this has nothing to do with you, and it would good to stay out of it.
majikent SS217 Do you pay taxes to your town/state/country? Yes. What would happen if you didn't? You'd get "kicked" from the country. No. You would be fined a large sum of money and/or sent to jail to live off of other tax payers' money... Someone found a loop hole.
SS217 No, majkent, we really didn't use paddles, this has nothing to do with you, and it would good to stay out of it. Who do you think you are suggesting I do something? It's a public discussion, therefore I will reply if I choose. If you don't like it, scroll past it. Not that difficult.
majikent SS217 Do you pay taxes to your town/state/country? Yes. What would happen if you didn't? You'd get "kicked" from the country. No. You would be fined a large sum of money and/or sent to jail to live off of other tax payers' money... When you are sent to jail you are "kicked" from society, and have to earn your rights back by taking your punishment. Thus he was correct.
Aircraftkiller I wonder if the Black Cell people will see the light with you, Scrumfy. ah how I miss the constant global messaging for no reason, or telling us to listen to the crappy music you guys were playing on your "radio". the fucked up services that would create loopholes when you invited someone into the channel. lets not forget getting banned from #n00bstories repeatedly simply for being me or a friend of mine. and then there's the fact that you couldn't unban yourself or invite yourself into a channel, leaving many of us out of our admin channels. On top of that there's the constant attacks or people threatening to attack, I know for a fact at least 1 of the people that has status in n00bstories has attacked us recently. no no, I cant say I miss being "part of the community." I dont miss ACK thinking he's God with an intelligence the equivalent of a 5th grader, Crimson acting like she's better than everyone because she put together a really shitty site which is little more than an attempt to soil the names of good players. Our server are good servers, and yes ACK, they are popular. To the point where it's hard to get in sometimes. If you hate them so much, then stop your fucking whining that you cant play in them anymore. I'm starting to think maybe you weren't a high school drop out, maybe they kicked you out for getting a 400 on your SATs
Duke of Nukes Aircraftkiller I wonder if the Black Cell people will see the light with you, Scrumfy. ah how I miss the constant global messaging for no reason, or telling us to listen to the crappy music you guys were playing on your "radio". the fucked up services that would create loopholes when you invited someone into the channel. lets not forget getting banned from #n00bstories repeatedly simply for being me or a friend of mine. and then there's the fact that you couldn't unban yourself or invite yourself into a channel, leaving many of us out of our admin channels. On top of that there's the constant attacks or people threatening to attack, I know for a fact at least 1 of the people that has status in n00bstories has attacked us recently. no no, I cant say I miss being "part of the community." I dont miss ACK thinking he's God with an intelligence the equivalent of a 5th grader, Crimson acting like she's better than everyone because she put together a really shitty site which is little more than an attempt to soil the names of good players. Our server are good servers, and yes ACK, they are popular. To the point where it's hard to get in sometimes. If you hate them so much, then stop your fucking whining that you cant play in them anymore. I'm starting to think maybe you weren't a high school drop out, maybe they kicked you out for getting a 400 on your SATs I love how you all fall back on "OMG your site makes fun of others!" -- it's so old. You ever hear of "America's Funniest Home Videos"? That was half an hour every week of people fucking up on tape. How many videos circulate the internet when someone fucks up? Guess what? It's human nature to laugh at other people's mistakes. It's also human nature to want to vent when someone pisses you off when you're trying to play a game. That's the goal of the site. Anyone who says "OMG your site makes fun of others" is just trying to make themselves look all high and noble. Why don't you also say: I help old ladies cross the street! I volunteer 40 hours a week in a nursing home reading books to the elderly! I spent 20 hours a week cleaning up trash at the park! You're no saint. -- P.S. You build up a site that gets over 100,000 hits per day, then you can call my site "shitty". Until then, shut the fuck up. I don't know where you get this attitude that I think I'm better than everyone. I'm better than you, but that's about it. The bottom line is, you guys sat back and bitched about the mods we did to services but we were never actually approached about it. Was a meeting called to discuss a new solution? No. I heard a couple mentions of frustration about it then all of a sudden you wanted to delink. Good riddance! Actually you guys seem to think you're gods because you run a couple servers. It doesn't take skill to set up a couple Renegade servers and an IRCd with 20 people on it. It just requires a couple bucks and a couple friends. What you do not have is a community. Hundreds of gamers visiting your website and IRCd daily. That is where skill comes in, and years of experience in building and nurturing online communities. I don't think that I'm better than people overall. But I am in fact a professional web developer. This is what I do for a living. This is what I have spent hundreds of hours researching and playing with. If there's one thing I know, it's websites and online communities. I was doing this for years before I ever started n00bstories.com. And uh, excuse me, the global messaging was not excessive by ANY definition. I sent a total of 2, maybe 3 messages EVER about the radio (big deal), and other globals in reference to system status. So that when I reconfigured some part of the network and caused a netsplit, you didn't think "OMG something is broken", though several idiots thought something was broken anyway. That's what happens on an IRC network. Globals are sent for network-wide events. Rocket Science? Nope! The funny thing is that the very people you bitch about are the very people who frequent these forums. How can you miss us if you won't fucking leave?
Crimson Anyone who says "OMG your site makes fun of others" is just trying to make themselves look all high and noble. No, see, as much as you may think everything is about being high and noble, it isn't. So stop trying already. Crimson You're no saint. No I'm definately not, but I'm at least mature enough to admit when I've made a mistake. Example? You lock yourself out of your own shell, and suddenly is becomes Blazer's fault! Man, I wish I had me a live-in scapegoat, too! Crimson I don't know where you get this attitude that I think I'm better than everyone. Crimson I'm better than you, but that's about it. Hmm...That CAN'T be hypocritical at all! :rolleyes: Crimson The bottom line is, you guys sat back and bitched about the mods we did to services but we were never actually approached about it. Was a meeting called to discuss a new solution? No. I heard a couple mentions of frustration about it then all of a sudden you wanted to delink. Good riddance! Ah right, who were we to oppose the great and mighty Cramson? We DID raise the issue, we DID voice our opposition...It's not my fault you're so self-centered that you can't be bothered to listen. Crimson Actually you guys seem to think you're gods because you run a couple servers. It doesn't take skill to set up a couple Renegade servers and an IRCd with 20 people on it. It just requires a couple bucks and a couple friends. What you do not have is a community. Hundreds of gamers visiting your website and IRCd daily. That is where skill comes in, and years of experience in building and nurturing online communities. I don't think that I'm better than people overall. But I am in fact a professional web developer. This is what I do for a living. This is what I have spent hundreds of hours researching and playing with. If there's one thing I know, it's websites and online communities. I was doing this for years before I ever started n00bstories.com. I'm sure you have, however you missed one big lesson in doing so. You're not superwoman, you definately can't fly, and you can't manage "your" entire community all by yourself. As much as you'd like to think it's possible, you still end up playing favorites with that channel of yours. Expansion, you say? That's certainly a good idea...I mean honestly, how much more disorganized can you get? Crimson And uh, excuse me, the global messaging was not excessive by ANY definition. I sent a total of 2, maybe 3 messages EVER about the radio (big deal), and other globals in reference to system status. So that when I reconfigured some part of the network and caused a netsplit, you didn't think "OMG something is broken", though several idiots thought something was broken anyway. That's what happens on an IRC network. Globals are sent for network-wide events. Rocket Science? Nope! Hmph... I thought you said you had a community with hundreds of people! Why then, would you need to send a global message begging people to get on your radio? Come now...I see TWO whole users listening, and a max of 13! You're so popular...I wish I was just like you! Crimson The funny thing is that the very people you bitch about are the very people who frequent these forums. How can you miss us if you won't fucking leave? Let's see...these are the "Renegade Public Forums" That means I can stay. Also, I did leave your IRC...I mean, what a surprise...I kept pinging out when I tried to connect. :rolleyes: And you're also forgetting that I didn't start this topic, and I didn't start this pissing contest. It was the friendly neighborhood asshole yet again...But that's okay. Maybe your 'community' would actually expand if people on your forums weren't constantly bitched at for stating their opinions.
Javaxcx Sorry champ, but you are mistaken. There is no freedom of speech on the internet. You can try and argue it however you want, but there isn't any freedom of speech. Sure, you can type out whatever you want, but there are people who will remove your statements, or remove you from making those statements; thus no freedom. ...That depends on webmasters...
Crimson I don't know where you get this attitude that I think I'm better than everyone. Crimson I'm better than you, but that's about it. Hmm...That CAN'T be hypocritical at all! :rolleyes: Keywords there slick. Look for them. It may be hypocritical but not in the proportion your saying.
Quote: No I'm definately not, but I'm at least mature enough to admit when I've made a mistake. Example? You lock yourself out of your own shell, and suddenly is becomes Blazer's fault! Man, I wish I had me a live-in scapegoat, too! Uh, what?? I didn't lock myself out of my own shell. I've never been locked out of either of my shells. Blazer found a firewall script and ran it, not me, which locked me out of my dedicated server once. Perhaps you don't know the difference between dedicated server and shell. Blazer sure as shit wouldn't let me blame him publically for shit that was my own fault and I resent the implication that you think he'd let me walk all over him. Quote: Crimson I don't know where you get this attitude that I think I'm better than everyone. Crimson I'm better than you, but that's about it. Hmm...That CAN'T be hypocritical at all! :rolleyes: Read that again. Duke of Nukes isn't "everyone". Quote: Crimson The bottom line is, you guys sat back and bitched about the mods we did to services but we were never actually approached about it. Was a meeting called to discuss a new solution? No. I heard a couple mentions of frustration about it then all of a sudden you wanted to delink. Good riddance! Ah right, who were we to oppose the great and mighty Cramson? We DID raise the issue, we DID voice our opposition...It's not my fault you're so self-centered that you can't be bothered to listen. :rolleyes: What opers meeting did this take place at? Oh, that's right, none of them except when you told me you were delinking. Various mentions here and there don't constitute an actual complaint. Hell, you even had access to the irc discussion list and you did nothing. Quote: I'm sure you have, however you missed one big lesson in doing so. You're not superwoman, you definately can't fly, and you can't manage "your" entire community all by yourself. As much as you'd like to think it's possible, you still end up playing favorites with that channel of yours. Expansion, you say? That's certainly a good idea...I mean honestly, how much more disorganized can you get? If I thought I could manage the whole community by myself, I wouldn't have other ops and staff, would I? That's what I thought. It's called logic. Don't make wild accusations that you can't back up with facts. Quote: Hmph... I thought you said you had a community with hundreds of people! Why then, would you need to send a global message begging people to get on your radio? Come now...I see TWO whole users listening, and a max of 13! You're so popular...I wish I was just like you! Yes, Scrumfy, you're right. The listeners on the radio is my WHOLE SITE. While you're looking at my website stats, let me point out another one: n00bstories.com has had 198 visitors in the last 24 hours, and 452 visitors in the last 7 days. A total of 3834 players are registered with n00bstories.com, 6 of which signed up in the last 24 hours. These stats are pulled for only registered accounts, because you don't have to register or log in to read stories. My web logs show a lot more traffic than even that. Even if you look at the last week, 452 visitors does indeed constitute "hundreds". Quote: Let's see...these are the "Renegade Public Forums" That means I can stay. Also, I did leave your IRC...I mean, what a surprise...I kept pinging out when I tried to connect. :rolleyes: And you're also forgetting that I didn't start this topic, and I didn't start this pissing contest. It was the friendly neighborhood asshole yet again...But that's okay. Maybe your 'community' would actually expand if people on your forums weren't constantly bitched at for stating their opinions. The Renegade forums are hosted by n00bstories.com but they are NOT a part of the site. They just co-exist on the same server, and the same person (me) is responsible for both sites. I've seen lumps of Jello with more intelligence than you... if they were the same community, these forums would expand to cover more games (they won't). If they were the same community, then I'd have links back to n00bstories.com on these forums (I don't even put "sponsored by n00bstories.com" on the site even though I could). If they were the same community, I certainly wouldn't have two separate forums, one for n00bstories.com, one for renegadeforums.com. COMMON SENSE is not so common in you.
Scrumfy No I'm definately not, but I'm at least mature enough to admit when I've made a mistake. Untrue. I fully admit I made a mistake linking with a bunch of 15 year olds and thinking they'd be mature enough to handle it. Instead I will run the network alongside adults like foenixz, Blazer, and djlaptop... and Beanyhead and dougfunie who act older than their ages too.
SS217 Black-Cell.net admins pay 149 dollars a month for BCServ4, they spend endless hours improving DragonServ, you join their server and waste their 750gb a month bandwidth yet you do NOTHING for the server. Aren't all 3 of those points all voluntary? They volunteer to pay their cash, the volunteer to help improve, then volunteer their 750 Gigabytes to folks.
drkhaze SS217 Black-Cell.net admins pay 149 dollars a month for BCServ4, they spend endless hours improving DragonServ, you join their server and waste their 750gb a month bandwidth yet you do NOTHING for the server. Aren't all 3 of those points all voluntary? They volunteer to pay their cash, the volunteer to help improve, then volunteer their 750 Gigabytes to folks. Thats the point and why they have the authority to run the server as they please. If it wasn't voluntary (meaning that since it deals with Renegade, an example can be they would be have had to be told by EA to run the server), they would have to abide by the rules of whoever told them to run the server. In this example-case, it would be abiding by the rules EA would set forth about server administration. However because they volunteer the funds to run the server. they can run it the way they want. I'm not saying they run it well, nor am I saying they run it poorly, I'm just saying they have the privilage to run it as they please, for better or for worse. If you were implying something other than this, then I appologise for ranting like this.
No, you hit the nail on the head warranto. Don't say I didn't try to get NS IRC more organized Crimson, I told you to hold meeting, to create a list of rules for everyone to follow, to create a simple website for the network, but it never happened, I understand you are busy, but an IRC network is a like a country, if you don't hold it together by communication and laws, it falls apart. And don't say I didn't try to delink peacefully, because I did, but everyone kept on jabbering until the point where Blazer squitted, which pissed me off beyond belif
No, you wanted to stay linked for 24 hours before you left. We just hurried the process along. Nothing justifies revealing my hub IP to an orgy of botnet owners. Thankfully it's null routed now.
Crimson Scrumfy No I'm definately not, but I'm at least mature enough to admit when I've made a mistake. Untrue. I fully admit I made a mistake linking with a bunch of 15 year olds and thinking they'd be mature enough to handle it. Instead I will run the network alongside adults like foenixz, Blazer, and djlaptop... and Beanyhead and dougfunie who act older than their ages too. Sorry crimson, I'm not taking sides here but you NS also has the "abusers" as they are called who go on kicking and banning sprees anytime they wish. You say you run a professional network, then why do you have the abusers still holding power? By no means am I telling you what or how to run your stuff, but that is just a question. You say they have done so much for the community and stuff, but I really dont know what someone like DaveGMM has ever done for the Community of renegade (not n00bstories). One more thing... You said your site gets 100,000 hits a day? Then why on the topsites list you are no where near that number?
Quote: NS also has the "abusers" as they are called who go on kicking and banning sprees anytime they wish. You say you run a professional network, then why do you have the abusers still holding power? Believe me things are changing. They still hold power, but Crimson has been tightening the leash. Edit: and I may be wrong here, but as I understand it most if not all "top ten" type site don't work off of hits, but rather votes. And I have to admit, I've never voted... I'm just too lazy... :oops:
Yes, thinks are changing. You just have to give it time for them to change and for your perception to change. The topsites count unique visits to the site, IE, each IP hitting the site = 1 hit on the topsite banner. According to them I get about 500-700 unique visitors per day.
Aircraftkiller I wonder if the Black Cell people will see the light with you, Scrumfy. ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes we are gone see the light with him, if scrumfy is not around part of the black-cell would be dead, a man who take action by it self, even if is bad, is what things need to exist, if u dont make steps, younever gone climb up. yes, it is truth, scrumfy has negative points, but tell who dont have it? i have it but i learn from them, like scrumfy do, he say it by it self . ACK think about it again, and one thing, ppl need diploma to be someone in the world.........
and crimson, in the changes of n00bstories, i hope u to change a bit, because banning someone because u dont know one person and he dont talk is BS, and im sorry to tell this, but if u run for president and u win, i will take a plan and get the hell out because i dont want to be kicked because a president dont know me and because i dont talk, i was there to give support at least for being there in your "community", and i need time to know ppl like all ppl do, but in that time they where some idiots who just wanted o make some abuse of power
Don't worry Crams, I'd take a "plan" too and get the hell out because "I" don't want to be kicked.
Nanakasse, if you would have simply contacted me and asked about your ban, I would and could explain it to you. It's not what you think.
Yeah, I'm sure being all pissy about us delinking and not realizing my server isn't dedicated or has the support of two people that work for Cisco isn't immature. You failed to realize I didn't have the resources to shrug off 7 million packets per hour, [sorry I put seconds o_o] and DoS floods attacking me on port 22.
I'm sorry, when did I say you had to be able to shrug off that many packets? Oh wait, I didn't. I wasn't being "pissy" that you were delinking. I just didn't need you to draw it out for 24 hours while you hung around bashing the network. And if you were leaving because you were unhappy, I sure as shit didn't need you around with powers to /kill, gline, and etc. When you grow up and get a job in the real world, you'll find that when you get fired, you're escorted out the door immediately, you don't get 24 hours to stick around.
I wasn't bashing your network. I was the one trying to say the good-byes and delink peacefully. I never wanted this shit to happen, I would not have minded if you just said lets just delink now but nope.
And I could have forgiven anything but inciting more attacks against me. You crossed a big line and that I can't forgive.
I feel an i told you so comming on :rolleyes: finnally your the last one to notice that renegade is dead.... time to move on buy halo
sjezk3 I feel an i told you so comming on :rolleyes: finnally your the last one to notice that renegade is dead.... time to move on buy halo Then get out? :rolleyes:
Beanyhead sjezk3 I feel an i told you so comming on :rolleyes: finnally your the last one to notice that renegade is dead.... time to move on buy halo Then get out? :rolleyes: Yes please, I suggest you take your own advice sjezk3.
I never asked for forgiveness, or will I ever. I'm just stating if everyone took that situation before a lot cooler, this thread would not have been hijacked, or hub would not have been attacked, though I did have a good laugh when I read the n00bstories logs. If you can't see I don't care what you think, I have a perfect social life in high school now. Sure, I did cross the line and I admit it, but I just don't care what you or anyone else thinks, if you want to see oper abuse I recommend you give ACK an o:line..lmfao.
I'd like to know why this has turned into a 4 page topic.. To wanaburnu, that night, we were hosting an event called Mod Map Night for my friend, Beanyhead. He requested a special rule, no Timed C4 on DM maps. Carnage Club was effected by this rule. Now why you got tbanned, I can't say for sure since I wasn't there. If you only did it once, it should only have been a warning kick. If you had came back more than once and repeated this, then yes, a tban was the right thing to do. Whatever the case was, it's expired by now. As for the many flame wars that seemed to have grown in this thread, it's all rather pointless. We will continue to manage our servers the way we feel, and we will continue to keep them running with moderation support until the last person leaves our servers. For those who don't like us, well, that's your own opinion. We aren't effected by those that hate us, and we aren't effected by those that like us. We are here for one purpose, to run quality servers for this game so others can enjoy it. If that is so wrong, then why is everyone else doing it? We want no special name or power out of it, and we don't want control of some community the game has. Continue to like us, continue to hate us, however you view us is up to you. But, we aren't going anywhere.
Crimson When you grow up and get a job in the real world, you'll find that when you get fired, you're escorted out the door immediately, you don't get 24 hours to stick around. usually you get to finish the week out, but I guess they must have been sick of your upity little bitch attitude and wanted to get rid of you ASAP
go back and look at the records, this was all started by ACK. OMG who would have guessed. Crimsson, I have to hand it to you, when you go for maturity, you get it. I mean, a high school drop out that has an abandonment complex as well as a god complex, not to mention your ring of followers which have little or no difference in opinion. oh yeah, and I built websites that got over 1000 hits daily. You see...I made my old schools website before the new principal made them tear it to shit. And guess what, I'm a freshman at college, so that would hardly make me 15. I can give you some names of people and they will tell you, I am VERY mature for my age.
Duke of Nukes Crimson When you grow up and get a job in the real world, you'll find that when you get fired, you're escorted out the door immediately, you don't get 24 hours to stick around. usually you get to finish the week out, but I guess they must have been sick of your upity little bitch attitude and wanted to get rid of you ASAP No, if you ever get a real job, you'll know. When I worked for Charles Schwab, if you even quit to go work with a competitor, they'd pay you the rest of the pay period and send you out the door immediately. If you're fired for a bad reason, they don't let you stay either. I've never heard anyone get fired and then allowed to stay the week. It would be stupid of anyone to expect a fired employee to still perform their job satisfactorily and not hurt or break anything. 1000 hits daily is nothing, my good man. Just yesterday (the 22nd), the n00bstories.com domain received 82,797 hits from 4,026 unique IPs. That doesn't count these forums which I calculate separately. I also helped develop and run another site which I helped start when I was 20 with slightly less traffic than n00bstories.com. 1000 hits daily is nothing. Yeah, that's what I thought.
wow crimsson, what can I say? congrats, you bested a high school sophomore that wasn't getting paid jack shit and didn't really even care about the site or the class. oh, and congrats at finishing high school before me, I guess that means you're so much smarter as well
Duke of Nukes usually you get to finish the week out, but I guess they must have been sick of your upity little bitch attitude and wanted to get rid of you ASAP Duke of Nukes I am VERY mature for my age. Oh yes, you are definatly so mature with this attitude. :rolleyes: Most "mature" people don't use such language for one. Nor do they make unreasonable inferrences of others when they have no valid proof to back it up. Edit: just about your recent post, you brought up the webpage arguement, so don't pull this sarcastic junk that you're doing. If you can't handle having your accomplishments bested, don't use them as ammo in an arguement. Doing so and then claiming "oh wow, you bested somone younger than you" really shows just how "mature" ( :rolleyes: ) you really are.
warranto Most "mature" people don't use such language for one. Nor do they make unreasonable inferrences of others when they have no valid proof to back it up. once you hit puberty, you'll realize that the way someone speaks has absolutely nothing to do with how mature they are. And what, pray tell, dont I have proof to back up? the fact that Crimsson and ACK are both self righteous asshats? I can give you several from this thread alone
Before Javaxcx says it, "that's an opinion, not a fact, champ." I'll say it again... For being such a pacifist liberal, you sure are belligerent. Stop flailing wildly and find something you can actually damage... But calling us "self righteous asshats" isn't going to prove anything. "mommy he's a self righteous asshat!" "So?" Who really cares? Well, besides the obvious, you.
Guess what? Learning to swear is not a sign of maturity. It's a sign of someone too unintelligent to think of something else. Please tell me where I stated what how someone speaks shows their maturity level? Oh, wait, you can't as I never said it. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize I was talking about how people ACT that shows their maturity. Oh, but wait... I guess I was wrong. Speaking must be a sign of maturity as it's related to how you act. Those who act mature don't throw unfounded insults around. As for the proof? Wow, I even quoted it, and you still didn't get it.... Well here, I'll quote it again for you. Quote: usually you get to finish the week out, but I guess they must have been sick of your upity little bitch attitude and wanted to get rid of you ASAP I assume that you have proof of this?
Duke of Nukes once you hit puberty, you'll realize that the way someone speaks has absolutely nothing to do with how mature they are. If you can't express yourself maturely (which you are apparently admitting here) then what other possible gauge is there, especially when all we see of you is your typing?
you know, the entire point of that is hypocritcal at best
there's a difference between acting mature and being mature. part of being mature is acting immature at times. and warranto, I know alot of people that were fired or laid off...and every single one of them got to finish out the week.
Hypocracy: The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness. Quote: If you can't express yourself maturely (which you are apparently admitting here) then what other possible gauge is there, especially when all we see of you is your typing? Using the definition given above, please show me how it's hypocritical. So let me get this straight... to act immature (at times) is to be mature... kind of contradictory, no? How mature is it (halloween theme here) to throw eggs at a house? And as for working the week out, or leaving that instant, it's all up to the employer/company (which is why most firings happen on a friday). I still don't see how that implies that "they must have been sick of (her) upity little bitch attitude and wanted to get rid of (her) ASAP"
warranto, if you had half a brain you'd realize I was talking about the image ACK posted, not what you said. throwing eggs at a house is being immature, but it's doing so at the expense of others, which is a very immature thing to do. When I say part of being mature is acting immature at times, it's doing so but not at the expense of others
Duke of Nukes, I'll say the same thing back to you... if you had half a brain, you'd realize that without a quote to say who your inferring to, unless explicitly stated, it's going to seem as though you are reffering to the post above you. But regardless, I'll refraise the question: Using the same definition (I hope I don't have to post it again) Please show me how that picture is hypocritical. Quote: When I say part of being mature is acting immature at times, it's doing so but not at the expense of others. Oh yes, a baby is so mature when it spits up all over itself, after all, it's not at the expense of anyone else, so the baby must be acting mature as babies don't spit up ALL the time.
Aircraftkiller Before Javaxcx says it, "that's an opinion, not a fact, champ." Silence infidel! Anyhow, wow. I can't believe I just read the whole page of this drivel. The blanant idiocy, the magic changing in subjects, I'm amazed. I didn't think it were possible, but Duke has managed to dig himself in so deep, he's popped out on the other side of the world. I fail to see the point in ranting off why he's an idiot at 7:00am, so I'm not going to. But any person "with a half a brain" shouldn't need me to anyway. LOL.
...Why is someone that has been repeadedly slammed and bitch slapped continuing to try and defend themselves? I see it pointless that Duke keeps trying to argue with Crimson or ACK. But Warranto owned him up,down,left, and right and he tries to argue with him.
The Evolution of This Threads Topic "Black Cell Mods Think Their God" "Virtual Cock Sucking" "Your Online Constitution" "My site is better than yours" "Hypocrite Wars" "Faggot Intermission by Sjezk3" "Your a bitch and were fired" "Ack is an asshat" "Duke is Being Owned"
*Tacks on* "Slicer is laughing as he reads the whole thread and then goes to the bathroom."
All i have to say is directed to the Temp ban by MajorKFC and Slicer Slicer here is my PUBLIC appology (explanation below) for being "pissy" with you on MMN on BCServ4..... The temp ban (as Vlokt enquired about above-somewhere-) yes Vlokt he had already been kicked by me for it....but i have to say major beat me to the tban coz he was the 5th person that game that had a tban impossed on him due to the fact they were warned publicly then kicked then tbanned! (I think any and all network server admins or mods would have done the same if this careless disregard for the rules had happened in their servers) But that night i think i did maybe a weeks worth of kicking and banning in Carnage Club alone....so this is why i was a little pissed off. That is my appology and explaination....if anyone feels im a bitch, or whatever than you're right to have that opinion as i make no appologies for my opinions pure and simply put they're mine! Now i dont know the whole story of the ranting and raving that this topic has spawned so i wont be involved in it! So please dont involve me in it My only suggestion is that this topic is locked! I leave that to the descisions of this sites admins
This whole thread is fucking ghetto and pointless, kind of like a lot of the posters in this thread.
Could have sworn I already locked this. I guess I was waiting for Duke of Nukes to reply, but apparently he realized he was owned and stopped coming back.