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Official Renegade Update!
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description: Hello, my name is Mark Skaggs and welcome to Command and Conquer: Renegade! We at EA have been carefully reading these message boards and have decided to make a final patch to the game. Included in this patch will be major bug fixes and 3 new maps. These maps will revolutionize the gaming community as you and I know it. One map, Volcano Flying, will support the new tank supplier feature. Also, there will be several balance issues addressed such as grenades doing more damage but having a shorter range. More to come! Mark Vanderbilt Skaggs, Renegade Production Manager Yes, this is the one and only Mark Skaggs.
creator: Mark Skaggs
date: 2003-08-04T02:50:38-00:00

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description: ooo..cool! lets just hope this is true and that you are the real Mark Skaggs
creator: A-DawG
date: 2003-08-04T02:52:02-00:00

OMG
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description: OMGOMG!! I like just posted saying I saw your name at the top of the forums!! I cant believe you guys are finally updating the game! And a new tank supplier feature! That sounds awesome!! Hopefully that means we can que up tanks, and even more. Im glad you guys are finally balancing the game also! This is too good to be true. Any way you can tell us anymore about this!!!!!
creator: linkin90
date: 2003-08-04T02:52:34-00:00

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description: He has returned!
creator: Wild1
date: 2003-08-04T02:53:40-00:00

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description: this is great, my favorite game being updated again! And yes, hes back!!
creator: linkin90
date: 2003-08-04T02:55:02-00:00

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description: I doubt this is true. Probably just a hoax... But, I could be wrong.
creator: Beanyhead
date: 2003-08-04T02:57:30-00:00

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description: If Mark Skaggs is in Rochester, NY, then it would be true... but I know nothing of this... in fact I've heard something else entirely from a pretty reliable source. I'm pretty leery, but if this is really Mark Skaggs, please contact me off-forums to confirm.
creator: Crimson
date: 2003-08-04T02:59:05-00:00

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description: Well I had heard rumors on another message board that some update may be made but no one believed the person, i guess he was right
creator: linkin90
date: 2003-08-04T02:59:36-00:00

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description: Just wondering, but why did he add a link to Westwood, If it doesn't exist anymore?
creator: Wild1
date: 2003-08-04T03:02:14-00:00

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description: that site is how you get to the renegade site, it does exist, go to it
creator: linkin90
date: 2003-08-04T03:02:52-00:00

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description: When will this patch be released Mark?? Im hoping soon, so I can finish the summer with some renegade fun. Please reply if your not busy.
creator: linkin90
date: 2003-08-04T03:05:40-00:00

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description: SEE? EA DOSN'T SUCK!
creator: Vitaminous
date: 2003-08-04T03:06:53-00:00

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description: Aprime SEE? EA DOSN'T SUCK! or so you thought...
creator: A-DawG
date: 2003-08-04T03:07:52-00:00

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description: Beanyhead I doubt this is true. Probably just a hoax... But, I could be wrong. Agree, Probably hoax but we'll see.
creator: icedog90
date: 2003-08-04T03:08:11-00:00

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description: I don't think this is a hoax due to the officialness of the post, most people who have hoaxes sound like dumbasses and its obvious, also, ive seen a couple people brought up a possible patch in other forums, but everyone just flamed them
creator: linkin90
date: 2003-08-04T03:09:39-00:00

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description: Of course I'd like to hope that it's real, but there is a large chance that it is not. Although Mark Skaggs did have connections to Westwood, he was working on Generals at EAP during most of Renegade's development. The mentioning of a "Tank Supplier" feature is what throws me off...I can see EA fixing bugs, and possibly even EA adding ramps and aircraft to already existing maps, but completely new features seem too far out to be implemented by a company which hasn't really looked at the game in such a long time... However, we'll see, I guess.
creator: boma57
date: 2003-08-04T03:16:02-00:00

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description: Taximes Of course I'd like to hope that it's real, but there is a large chance that it is not. Although Mark Skaggs did have connections to Westwood, he was working on Generals at EAP during most of Renegade's development. The mentioning of a "Tank Supplier" feature is what throws me off...I can see EA fixing bugs, and possibly even EA adding ramps and aircraft to already existing maps, but completely new features seem too far out to be implemented by a company which hasn't really looked at the game in such a long time... However, we'll see, I guess. I agree. If this is a hoax, what kind of lamer would do something like this? Do they have nothing better to do?
creator: Beanyhead
date: 2003-08-04T03:19:17-00:00

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description: linkin90 I don't think this is a hoax due to the officialness of the post, most people who have hoaxes sound like dumbasses and its obvious, also, ive seen a couple people brought up a possible patch in other forums, but everyone just flamed them Just some advice for future happenings in your life. Never base something off of how "official" it sounds. Many proffesional scammers as well as others involved with legal business can make "official" sounding statements that can hide the truth or scam you out of your possessions.
creator: warranto
date: 2003-08-04T03:21:15-00:00

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description: I've heard something else entirely about the future of Renegade. I just checked my email and I have nothing about this.
creator: Crimson
date: 2003-08-04T03:24:25-00:00

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description: Crimson, ACK, or Dante would be the first to know.
creator: Wild1
date: 2003-08-04T03:28:35-00:00

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description: Crimson I've heard something else entirely about the future of Renegade. I just checked my email and I have nothing about this. Are you at liberty to tell us if it's a future we'd like? Because I would have to assume not.
creator: boma57
date: 2003-08-04T03:39:11-00:00

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description: No, it is a future you should like. Sorry I made it sound bad... it's not. It's just a secret right now because EA legal says it must be.
creator: Crimson
date: 2003-08-04T03:41:10-00:00

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description: That's chill, we understand.
creator: Wild1
date: 2003-08-04T03:42:46-00:00

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description: /me remains skeptical
creator: Aurora
date: 2003-08-04T03:43:28-00:00

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description: Crimson No, it is a future you should like. Sorry I made it sound bad... it's not. It's just a secret right now because EA legal says it must be. Aha, thanks for sharing that. You didn't make it sound bad, I was just thinking that because of the fact that Renegade didn't sell well, and the company that created it no longer officially exists, which would usually be a killer for support.
creator: boma57
date: 2003-08-04T03:45:29-00:00

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description: I'm actually paranoid and...scared of "EA" patching Renegade. I mean...the original team behind Renegade is gone...aren't they? Westwood is no more, and look how EA has been dealing with Generals... I fear the worst--that EA's new patch for Renegade actually screws up the game! :-\ I think Renegade is fine and needs no patching AFAIK...if it does could someone please enlighten me? Volcano_Flying does sound like a spectacular idea though.
creator: YSLMuffins
date: 2003-08-04T03:49:13-00:00

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description: Yeah, I'm not sure I'd want EA changing the balance of the game either. In my opinion, the only changes that should be made to the game are bug fixes, like your pistol being loaded by default, Techs getting 6 mines when they start, netcode optimization, etc... any new features should be non-balance issues like mine counters. Of course new maps could be released as well, even introducing new game modes like Deathmatch and a working CTF (without base destruction)...
creator: Crimson
date: 2003-08-04T03:55:03-00:00

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description: He also said something about Grenades. Those really need improvement.
creator: Wild1
date: 2003-08-04T03:57:42-00:00

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description: icedog90 Beanyhead I doubt this is true. Probably just a hoax... But, I could be wrong. Agree, Probably hoax but we'll see. ditto
creator: kopaka649
date: 2003-08-04T04:00:33-00:00

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description: Crimson Of course new maps could be released as well, even introducing new game modes like Deathmatch and a working CTF (without base destruction)... I doubt, though, that there are (m)any maps left that have not been transferred to Aircraftkiller, and as such I doubt EA would devote much - if any - time to creating new ones.
creator: boma57
date: 2003-08-04T04:01:16-00:00

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description: But if new maps *could* be released officially, what would you think?
creator: Crimson
date: 2003-08-04T04:03:18-00:00

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description: More people would play them.
creator: Wild1
date: 2003-08-04T04:04:39-00:00

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description: I would of course support new maps, as long as they didn't have any drawbacks, such as major, unfixed bugs or something of the like. For some reason, something that always stuck in my head from a long time ago was Devinoch telling the community of his idea for a map, and how he was going to try and have the map team make it and patch it in... I still remember the premise of the map, too...C&C_Crater, it took place inside a Tiberium crater, with a Mutant Lab in the middle. Strange, the things that I remember, eh?
creator: boma57
date: 2003-08-04T04:07:44-00:00

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description: Yup. :rolleyes:
creator: Wild1
date: 2003-08-04T04:19:00-00:00

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description: There is a possibility that this could be a hoax, but it could be that EA has seen that people were truly pised that EA shut down Westwood, and that many people are still playing Renegade, a game that was launched nearly two years ago and STILL going strong. If EA begins to patch Renegade again, they could regain the trust of the people they disappointed after the Westwood shutdown, therefore increasing sales of other games. It is more than likely that EA WILL produce Tiberium Twilight, or probably IS producing it as we speak, since the Westwood community is in fact quite large. Large community equals great profits. In layman terms, it's all about money. As I said before, this COULD be either a hoax, or an attempt to bring faith back to the Westwood community. If it is the latter, they are going to have to do some damn good patching to make up for the shutdown. But hey, that's just my opinion!
creator: U927
date: 2003-08-04T04:31:07-00:00

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description: It sounds fishy if you ask me. I dunno. I just don't think it's true. But if it is, cool!
creator: tdraptor
date: 2003-08-04T04:39:52-00:00

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description: Wow. And I thought Renegade was finished with patches. Good news definitely. What's a Tank Supplier feature? What's it do?
creator: -Tech-
date: 2003-08-04T04:50:06-00:00

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description: new maps would be great if they were offical maps. I think mostly they should make complex, islands and maybe volcano flying..that would be cool. The whole thing about this "patch" that I was looking forward too was the ladder working again. I think it was one of my clan mates soul who said that last time a patch came out the ladder went down for a while...
creator: Gr8BiGGiE
date: 2003-08-04T05:07:19-00:00

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description: since the ladder went down and wasnt reset, lenty of clan ppl, all 100-200 that are left of us, have been complaining to ea, maybe they saw our complaints? who knows
creator: FRAMER428
date: 2003-08-04T05:10:07-00:00

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description: if these new "official" maps are anything like glacier than it won't be much of an update but this is a hoax, look at his sig, westwood.com ? Why would you list the obsolete website of a non-existing dev house in your sig if you work for EA? whatever, hopefully halo has good clan support...
creator: Sukhoi
date: 2003-08-04T05:22:28-00:00

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description: Hmm.
creator: bigwig992
date: 2003-08-04T05:35:54-00:00

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description: Because http://www.westwood.com is the main C&C page.
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2003-08-04T05:35:59-00:00

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description: This game had the potential to take off. Mabey EA realized this and are starting to pay attention to this fact. But I'm still on a 50/50 tilt that this may be true or that this may be false. Only time will tell right now. Or ACK or Dante will tell too.
creator: bigejoe14
date: 2003-08-04T05:40:26-00:00

Rankings?
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description: I would just like the rankings to be fixed, or at least updated once a month. I know alot of you are anti-rankings, but imo they are fun to compare with friends to show who did what in a particular game. I know it doesnt show all it should but I still think they are fun, and adds competivness to games where you have a bunch of friends playing at once. I am not talking about point whoring, and being number one overall, I could care less what you are ranked, I am talking about kills/deaths, wins/loses, vehicals destroyed, and buildings. So the rankings are a big reason I still play this game, but since they have stopped working a couple weeks ago, my friends and I have also slowed way down on playing as much too. We were hoping they would have just reset this month but they didnt.
creator: BongerMan
date: 2003-08-04T07:41:47-00:00

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description: Both his post and his profile seem OK, except for the email adress provided, "westwood4ever@hotmail.com". I say 20% chance it's really him.
creator: NHJ BV
date: 2003-08-04T08:22:59-00:00

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description: lmao everybody click the link in his sig "I Deslike you!" how wicked is that :biggrin:
creator: Toasty
date: 2003-08-04T09:15:34-00:00

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description: i hope this is true!!!!
creator: kawolsky
date: 2003-08-04T09:35:44-00:00

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description: This is so obviously a fake announcement. 1. He would not have a hotmail.com email address FFS. 2. He would have made a followup post by now 3. I really doubt they have a team working on Renegade, considering WOL rankings are not even working currently.
creator: Blazer
date: 2003-08-04T10:59:49-00:00

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description: I think we all agree that this post it a little bit fake.
creator: DaveGMM
date: 2003-08-04T11:14:58-00:00

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description: Quote: Yes, this is the one and only Mark Skaggs. That bit leaves me overly skeptical, aside from the fact that I doubt Renegade will receive official support again.
creator: Ash
date: 2003-08-04T11:19:58-00:00

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description: *rolls around on the floor... good stuff actually brought a tear to my eye...
creator: Dante
date: 2003-08-04T11:41:14-00:00

meh
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description: Umbral_DelaFlare If EA begins to patch Renegade again, they could regain the trust of the people they disappointed after the Westwood shutdown, therefore increasing sales of other games. hmmm, i would agree.... it might be real, because, as stated in umbral, it is for money..... they could also use this as a.... well as a "starcraft".... what mean is, "look everyone, renegade is 2 years old, the company that made it has closed down.... but were still patching it, and we intend to keep doing so....." as to get peoples "trust" back like umbral said, and to also, make people belive they support old games still..... *could* be a big seller......
creator: Vindicare Assassin
date: 2003-08-04T12:06:43-00:00

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description: I do not think that it is real. It would be nice though.
creator: Walrus
date: 2003-08-04T13:25:31-00:00

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description: I thought Dante/RenEvo team was going to be supporting all C&C games previous to Generals now instead of EA? Maybe it's just RA2 though
creator: Try_lee
date: 2003-08-04T13:43:57-00:00

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description: Hm...*sighed* good news and bad news are brought in at same time, huh? The good news is we're getting another patch! The bad news is, it's the final patch. EA, I'm sure this community appreciate that you're patching the game again, but please, continue supporting it. Don't just leave the game alone because it can't make you more money. Anyway, we appreciate that you have finally announced like this. I hope it's true
creator: newcmd001
date: 2003-08-04T13:48:04-00:00

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description: YSLMuffins I'm actually paranoid and...scared of "EA" patching Renegade. I mean...the original team behind Renegade is gone...aren't they? Westwood is no more, and look how EA has been dealing with Generals... I fear the worst--that EA's new patch for Renegade actually screws up the game! :-\ I think Renegade is fine and needs no patching AFAIK...if it does could someone please enlighten me? Volcano_Flying does sound like a spectacular idea though. Agreed. Even if there's a chance (which I don't believe there is) that EA would patch Renegade, I'd rather they just left it alone "If it's not broke, don't fix it". Not to say that's it's perfect, but no game ever will be.
creator: Krazyfoxx
date: 2003-08-04T13:49:52-00:00

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description: get off the horse, this guy is obviously not Mark Skaggs who had NOTHING to do with Renegade in the past or the present... let alone to be announcing this on this forum. Mark Skaggs = the Executive In Charge of Production on the RTS genre at EALA. Renegade <> RTS; Renegade == FPS so... stop even thinking about it, some n00b got post happy, decided to be a retard, and all you are doing if fueling his laughter by posting all this "yay" "what is this?" "OMOMOMOOMOMGOMGGGG ROXOR J00 B0X0R!!!" now... SHUTUP AND MOD
creator: Dante
date: 2003-08-04T14:46:00-00:00

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description: LOL! like Crimmy stated this guy is located in Rochester NY, while the real Skaggs is in LA. It's always funny how dipshits try to pull this shit off completely forgetting (or not knowing) about IP tracers.
creator: Ultron10
date: 2003-08-04T14:48:02-00:00

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description: i know its not true,its just that the thought of it makes you wanna believe it is.
creator: kawolsky
date: 2003-08-04T14:59:05-00:00

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description: The ladder last summer got screwed up when they were using the base beacon fix. Two versions screw it up i think. Probably fake though
creator: Homey
date: 2003-08-04T15:31:12-00:00

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description: Wait...westwood4ever...that's someone's adress on this forum!
creator: Vitaminous
date: 2003-08-04T16:14:43-00:00

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description: Dante's right, we would have heard something by now.
creator: Wild1
date: 2003-08-04T16:35:06-00:00

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description: Yeah, I was of course willing to give the benefit of the doubt, but it was a VERY small doubt. Anything coming as an announcement is generally leaked to some community members first, and none of us heard a thing. But personally, these n00bs drive traffic to the forums and keep us with something to talk about so it's not all bad.
creator: Crimson
date: 2003-08-04T17:19:19-00:00

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description: One thing I find odd. Him and vindicare assasin are the ONLY people that have spaces in their screen names
creator: Ferhago
date: 2003-08-04T18:08:18-00:00

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description: A-DawG Aprime SEE? EA DOSN'T SUCK! or so you thought... I still think EA sucks westwood made much better games I think if this isnt a hoax the only reson their doing this is becuz so many people love renegade and alot of the fans hate EA so their kissing up I think so at least!
creator: z310
date: 2003-08-04T20:16:57-00:00

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description: Kinda like when EA will shut down the rene servers and force everybody to use GaySpy. Bet thats gonna suck. BTW, diddn't somebody have to threaten legal action last time to get them to fix the ladders? Hoestly, EA sucks fat donkey wang. Look at Blizzard, they still patch games like StarCraft after all this time. And yet Ea abandons games in about a year. Anybody have Earth&Beyond? Whats going on there? Plenty of neglect to go around?
creator: Epyon
date: 2003-08-04T21:59:43-00:00

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description: I don't think we'll be forced to use GSA, something else will come along if they ever do shut it down, which I think is very unlikely for a while.
creator: Try_lee
date: 2003-08-04T22:01:30-00:00

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description: Dante get off the horse, this guy is obviously not Mark Skaggs who had NOTHING to do with Renegade in the past or the present... let alone to be announcing this on this forum. so... stop even thinking about it, some n00b got post happy, decided to be a retard, and all you are doing if fueling his laughter by posting all this "yay" "what is this?" "OMOMOMOOMOMGOMGGGG ROXOR J00 B0X0R!!!" /me completely agrees with Dante, all this should just be deleted like the other spam threads about this crap. I have faith in dante, Renegade will survive under the wing of RenEvo.
creator: npsmith82
date: 2003-08-04T22:28:21-00:00

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description: I hate EA games and they havnt been doing anything 4 renegade so this is probaly some shit some n00b wrote ( i agree with Dante)
creator: z310
date: 2003-08-04T22:38:23-00:00

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description: Find his IP and ban him! Or....subscribe his email to sadistic spam :twisted:
creator: Derrnger
date: 2003-08-04T23:51:49-00:00

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description: Ive seen that email adress be4, it some idiot pulling a prank
creator: z310
date: 2003-08-05T00:09:40-00:00

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description: I thought about this and got the assumption that this post is indeed fake. I looked at his first post. Why would he say welcome to Renegade? We've been with the game ever since it came out, we're not new to it. Now I know it's fake. :rolleyes:
creator: bigejoe14
date: 2003-08-05T01:31:57-00:00

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description: Ferhago One thing I find odd. Him and vindicare assasin are the ONLY people that have spaces in their screen names oh how did you guess it was me..... :rolleyes:
creator: Vindicare Assassin
date: 2003-08-05T05:43:23-00:00

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description: Hey I wasnt implying you did it I was just wondering how you put spaces in your name
creator: Ferhago
date: 2003-08-05T09:16:27-00:00

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description: Another reason you can tell that this is a fake is because the author is doing everything he can think of to INDICATE that he is in fact an EA employee, where a real EA employee would do nothing of the sort. Indication is a common problem for people who are just learning the craft of acting (or going on the radio). When you indicate, it comes off fake, and the bullshit meter goes up. It reminds everyone that you are, in fact, acting.
creator: djlaptop
date: 2003-08-05T10:20:06-00:00

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description: Ferhago Hey I wasnt implying you did it I was just wondering how you put spaces in your name press "spacebar"
creator: Vindicare Assassin
date: 2003-08-05T11:21:34-00:00

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description: Vindicare Assassin Ferhago Hey I wasnt implying you did it I was just wondering how you put spaces in your name press "spacebar" ithoughtpressingspacebarblewupthecomputer...
creator: kawolsky
date: 2003-08-05T14:15:52-00:00

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description: djlaptop Indication is a common problem for people who are just learning the craft of acting (or going on the radio). When you indicate, it comes off fake, and the bullshit meter goes up. It reminds everyone that you are, in fact, acting. Jeez, I should've used that the first time I posted in this thread
creator: boma57
date: 2003-08-05T15:35:39-00:00

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description: Taximes djlaptop Indication is a common problem for people who are just learning the craft of acting (or going on the radio). When you indicate, it comes off fake, and the bullshit meter goes up. It reminds everyone that you are, in fact, acting. Jeez, I should've used that the first time I posted in this thread man the life boat LOL ahahah that made me laugh hard
creator: Majiin Vegeta
date: 2003-08-05T17:59:38-00:00

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description: wow that was extremely gay
creator: linkin90
date: 2003-08-08T01:46:05-00:00

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description: linkin90 wow that was extremely gay If by gay you mean not gay then yes
creator: ohmybad
date: 2003-08-08T02:32:41-00:00

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description: You all need to understand EAs perspective of game creations. More Games=more money Patch Games=Waste Of Money [spend money to patch / no money in return] Tech Support=more costly And whoever said that we will have to use Gay Spy... What about WU? But I dont wanna talk about that here.
creator: PsY
date: 2003-08-08T07:19:07-00:00

Official Renegade Update!
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description: EA dosent seem to understand that by spending tons of money on patchs and tech support word gets around that there a really good company therefor the next game thay releas will most likely be more popular becuse people know that there a good compainy. but EA still seems to want less money right now then more money in the furture i think that sounds about right EA I HOPE YOU READ THAT!!!!!!!
creator: Infinint
date: 2003-08-08T07:29:11-00:00

Official Renegade Update!
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description: This is a very cruel joke..
creator: England
date: 2003-08-08T11:03:19-00:00

Official Renegade Update!
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description: What a ass-whip. EA lies. They lie about "We will continue to support this game untill..", Forgot the rest.
creator: Jaspah
date: 2003-08-08T12:37:12-00:00

Official Renegade Update!
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description: Chojin-WS used to have a hotmail account, but thats besides the point. People must actually get a thrill about pretending to be someone else..
creator: Mobius
date: 2003-08-08T12:44:18-00:00

Official Renegade Update!
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description: PsY You all need to understand EAs perspective of game creations. More Games=more money Patch Games=Waste Of Money [spend money to patch / no money in return] Tech Support=more costly And whoever said that we will have to use Gay Spy... What about WU? But I dont wanna talk about that here. Whats WU??
creator: z310
date: 2003-08-08T17:28:16-00:00

Official Renegade Update!
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description: hmm... i wonder what it is that crimson knows about the fate of renegade...
creator: TheMouse
date: 2003-08-08T20:02:55-00:00

Official Renegade Update!
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description: hmm... this guy does include mark's middle name... why doesn't someone email EA or call tech support or something and see what the real deal is?
creator: TheMouse
date: 2003-08-08T20:15:58-00:00