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What happened? Played Renegade for the first time in 2 years and noticed there is no Jelly anymore.
wasnt getting players anymore so chris played the plug - waste of money
It shut down forever over this past weekend - we did organized games on Saturday and straight Marathon games on Sunday I made this video from the second day https://youtu.be/RQMKK2nrlIQ
He must be joking considering he reads RenCorner forums everyday and this topic was made http://rencorner.com/index.php/topic/7624-marathon-server-will-be-shutdown-augus t-30th/ Probably just wants Renforums attention.
What happens to most Companies sooner or later, you treat ur Customers/Users like Shit, if you are in the Leadership many act godlike so the Company closes as a result. Sad for Renegade that its 1 Server less, but no sorry Feelings for the Community itself.
They shut down on Sunday. I logged into Ren for the first time in a while to say goodbye. Had lots of good memories on that server. Thanks for the fun times!
Xpert wrote on Wed, 02 September 2015 23:24 He must be joking considering he reads RenCorner forums everyday and this topic was made http://rencorner.com/index.php/topic/7624-marathon-server-will-be-shutdown-augus t-30th/ Probably just wants Renforums attention. Read forums everyday? LOL I was at a place for work with no internet for 6 months.
If anyone honestly values DJ's opinion on anything, I'll respond to his post Otherwise I won't waste my time trying to explain anything to him - I made that mistake in the past Where was that G1D, Siberia or something? I don't know of many places in the world that don't have internet in any form lol
can confirm g1dildo hasnt posted anything on rc for a few months at least and dj do you hope everything renegade dies forever still? that news years day post was pretty funny lol
liquidv2 wrote on Thu, 03 September 2015 11:18 If anyone honestly values DJ's opinion on anything, I'll respond to his post Otherwise I won't waste my time trying to explain anything to him - I made that mistake in the past Why would anyone value or even remotely be interested in the opinion of someone that tried to make a name for themselves 75% into the life of a video game by being the ultimate tool - troll and not on skill and comradery? Comradery is a feeling of trust, a bond created by a shared goal or experience — you don't have to be best friends with everyone in the group to know you have their support. He is too stupid to even realize he embarrasses himself every time he posts. You would think he would get a clue by the negative replies to all his word puke. #InHisOwnWorld
Oh look, the E-Janitor still has to release his poop everywhere in ren ^^ Why dont you disappear with many from the jelly Communtiy, you would do us a favour, really, plx, think about it old mofo
Who is DJ associating himself with when he says "us"
this forum was so peaceful when dj disappeared :<
Everything will become more peacefull once murica elected trump for President, and after that kanye for President 2020. 8 Years of Joy incoming for murica lols
did germany kick you out? sick flag
Fuck that.. I dunno why my ISP has rooted me through Austria -_-
I've been traveling. I spent a majority of time in the oil fields in Vernal Utah were there was no internet then I spent a few months in Brighton Colorado along with Denver but now I am back in Salt Lake City Utah.
Renegade may die, but 20 years from now you guys will still be jerking each other off on Renegadeforums.com(or the google archive of it). Well, if I have RL drama-that-I-need-to-start-shit-on-here-again, I probably will as well. Eike, you can keep holding onto that grudge, but it'll get you nothing. Trust me, been there, done that with pretty much all of you in this topic. Trying to let bygones be bygones myself. Which was why in August I was extending that olive branch to Jelly about coming to us to work out a Mara/Aow thing, and in July giving them the hard truth of what they needed to fix their shit. A three legged chair was better than two. It only means we're one step closer to Renegade dying for real.
there was nothing you said that wasn't already known or painfully obvious to anyone around Renegade in the past year or two - the simple truth is Jelly no longer has the capacity to host a Renegade server, and it's better off in the hands of RenCorner people saw what you said, but there was a reason no one directly responded to it I like to think people that used to frequent Jelly have already or will find their way over to RenCorner not sure if he's allowed on there but DJ was using triggerbot for a while because he wanted to be able to beat Iran at sniping
You guys were in a state of denial, because you went right back to trying to "fix" the shit out of the server, and not fix the problem of the mod/admin team. If you'd of really known/cared, you wouldn't have kept trying to fit that circular peg into the rectangular hole. I think if you guys had shaken things moderator-wise, you'd of pulled it off within those months.
iirc there did try that? appointing an active admin and opening up mod applications all changes made were shit people asked for it just was obviously too late, renx/server problems just scared people away imo
How many moderators were made during that time?
I knew before I asked, Trist. The whole point was for DJ to bury the hatchet. If I can, so can he.
For him or me?
The mod issue was first addressed 3 years ago - there wasn't anyone out there that made sense for it and we didn't take enough chances on random people You want enough people around to help train and guide new moderators, and after a certain point we did not have that The process was irreversible by the time you had suggested it Don't expect DJ to move on - that's a waste of time Instead, you should focus on keeping him out of your servers The only things he can do are invisihug (now against the RC rules as glitch abuse probably), use illegal weapon models that double as superbodies, trash talk other players unprovoked, and use actual cheats like triggerbot so he can feel good Not joking at all about any of those things
liquidv2 wrote on Sat, 05 September 2015 11:06 The mod issue was first addressed 3 years ago - there wasn't anyone out there that made sense for it and we didn't take enough chances on random people You want enough people around to help train and guide new moderators, and after a certain point we did not have that The process was irreversible by the time you had suggested it Don't expect DJ to move on - that's a waste of time Instead, you should focus on keeping him out of your servers The only things he can do are invisihug (now against the RC rules as glitch abuse probably), use illegal weapon models that double as superbodies, trash talk other players unprovoked, and use actual cheats like triggerbot so he can feel good Not joking at all about any of those things He's been random triggerbot checked. If he's caught, he'll be banned. Then the fun begins of proxies/vpns to get new IP's. Well, it is fun for me, as the last guy found out a couple of weeks ago. DJ, don't cheat, and then there's no problem.
pretty sure there wasn't a mod issue pre server issues there were enough active mods albeit only temps
shaitan wrote on Fri, 04 September 2015 21:39 How many moderators were made during that time? 3 primarily, and some auxillary moderators, but it was already too late by then. This was at the end of April. I think ehh is right, I don't really remember anyone being so discontent about anything moderator related up until the server issues. Jelly's rapid loss of players began when I went away in July 14, and became worse when i properly left from October 14. I don't know exactly what happened, but their new unpopular rotation was probably one major cause. Liquid, the problem concerning moderators wasn't that you didn't take chance on random people, it was that the admins weren't active enough ingame etc, and so they were unable to judge potential candidates properly. I assure you back then, there were people who were competent and responsible enough to be moderators (some with little guidance), you just didn't see it. That's my perspective, having played at Jelly from 2013, and from being an active member of many other communities.
Jelly's downfall was because the admins and seniors were never around. And when they were, they kept making decisions based on their opinions alone and not the opinions of the people who actually play on the server. They kept trying to keep the server as close to "vanilla" as possible but that wasn't popular anymore with the direction Rencorner and MPF was going. Great ideas of people who played there were always getting turned down or looked the other way. The server also had a terrible rotation. When new maps were added, it made it worst. We got crappy maps like Arid and Creekdale added to the rotation that killed the player counts instead of going with maps that were similar to Uphill and Tomb that people enjoyed. There were never any moderators and for over 6 years, Jelly never had an application system. It was only implemented when the server was on its last breath and by then it was pointless. Promotions were handed out to current staff just out of desperation to keep those people having the server active while the seniors and admins were never around to participate in the server's needs. Anyone who willingly offered help got denied or never took into consideration. It was our home just as much as it was the players but in the end, our opinions didn't matter despite the constant polls and debates on the forums that were just pointless and false hope just like the Field laser wall idea. It made no sense as to why the people who never even play this game anymore, had a say in what happens to the server. Even behind the scenes in private discussions, all the admins lost interest but yet still had the final say in what happens with the server. I joined the Jelly team when it was still going when liquid was still an admin of it and I wanted to take part in server upgrades with raven. In time, raven became inactive and liquid also stepped away from it. Eventually I was keeping the server up to date but with very limited access and can only apply such updates when an admin was on. Ethenal and Scruffy kept blaming my stuff for the lag issues of Jelly when it wasn't even my stuff causing the problems. When I left the team, they eventually took my stuff out and in the end, the server was still laggy and unplayable. It drove people away to the point where Jelly was no longer the most active server of all hours of the day.
shaitan wrote on Sat, 05 September 2015 10:34 DJ, don't cheat, and then there's no problem. if he can't cheat and he can't invisihug then he's just going to get his ass kicked, bitch at players, and eventually leave - it's a win-win for everyone Pyr0man1c wrote on Sat, 05 September 2015 14:45 Liquid, the problem concerning moderators wasn't that you didn't take chance on random people, it was that the admins weren't active enough ingame etc, and so they were unable to judge potential candidates properly. I assure you back then, there were people who were competent and responsible enough to be moderators (some with little guidance), you just didn't see it. That's my perspective, having played at Jelly from 2013, and from being an active member of many other communities. I haven't been active since well before any of that, but I will tell you I was fed up to the point of almost leaving back in 2013 because of mod issues (mainly things not being done by people that could have done them but simply chose not to) the admins weren't around whatsoever, and neither were most of the seniors - as I said elsewhere, Jelly was largely a ghost ship floating down a metaphorical river only held afloat by its passengers choosing to come back Xpert wrote on Sat, 05 September 2015 18:48 Jelly's downfall was because the admins and seniors were never around. And when they were, they kept making decisions based on their opinions alone and not the opinions of the people who actually play on the server. They kept trying to keep the server as close to "vanilla" as possible but that wasn't popular anymore with the direction Rencorner and MPF was going. Great ideas of people who played there were always getting turned down or looked the other way. exactly what I'm saying - no matter how players voted for things, the ones with the ability to make the changes would only act on it if it was something they wanted, and it was infuriating I personally thought Arid and Creekdale weren't bad maps, but I wasn't around to actually play them and had no idea how they'd go on a Marathon server - it would have made sense to either lower their frequency or switch them out when it was deemed they were hurting the player counts, but that would have required someone being around for it At the same time, Arid and Uphill were also being tested and from what I've seen are both pretty good maps to play There was a period where Unit's version of Field was forced onto the player base for weeks on end, and every time a new version was done it would be slapped on and everyone would have to re-download it (which isn't a big deal with 4.0, but people still playing Jelly Renegade weren't huge proponents of change) On top of that, the rotation put together had little to no thought to it and was left running for way too long without input from others i0ncl0ud always made the best rotations, including one that was used for over 2 years, but no one thought to ask him (or anyone else, for that matter) I'm not blaming anyone for Jelly's demise as I wasn't there either, but as time went on people simply moved on to other things - this 13+ year old game was replaced by PS4s and MMORPGs and more modern FPS titles, along with people starting families and having busy schedules and college and jobs and whatnot I think RenCorner is more fit to carry the torch of Renegade's future, and hope they do so well
shaitan wrote on Sat, 05 September 2015 17:34 liquidv2 wrote on Sat, 05 September 2015 11:06 The mod issue was first addressed 3 years ago - there wasn't anyone out there that made sense for it and we didn't take enough chances on random people You want enough people around to help train and guide new moderators, and after a certain point we did not have that The process was irreversible by the time you had suggested it Don't expect DJ to move on - that's a waste of time Instead, you should focus on keeping him out of your servers The only things he can do are invisihug (now against the RC rules as glitch abuse probably), use illegal weapon models that double as superbodies, trash talk other players unprovoked, and use actual cheats like triggerbot so he can feel good Not joking at all about any of those things He's been random triggerbot checked. If he's caught, he'll be banned. Then the fun begins of proxies/vpns to get new IP's. Well, it is fun for me, as the last guy found out a couple of weeks ago. DJ, don't cheat, and then there's no problem. lols, liqtard still trieing to convince ppl of his hate-dj religion,haha, nice to see some things never change No worries, you can check whatever or whenever you want for anything, as before you wont find anything not allowed And i have never been some1 who had to use vpns n shit to play, in fact i still use the same serial i have been using for years, so nothing to hide from here
mdk caught u dj damnnnnnnnnnn
ehhh wrote on Sun, 06 September 2015 17:43 mdk caught u dj damnnnnnnnnnn Lets count 1 + 1 together : MDK is by far the most integer Person to relate to when its comming down to ban a person, sure, and we were best renbuddies for ages,not mentioning noone ever saw any evidence so far soz, yeah im pretty sad that all that made sense to ban a person just for sniping skillz and beeing german, racist mean ladys
Liquid, just give up this quest to make poor dj look bad. Dj's posts are far more credible than yours, he has a top edge reputation for so long, your petty attempts do not fool me, Dj's the reneman!
Goztow wrote on Sun, 06 September 2015 19:53 Liquid, just give up this quest to make poor dj look bad. Dj's posts are far more credible than yours, he has a top edge reputation for so long, your petty attempts do not fool me, Dj's the reneman! People care about Reputation still? haha, good 1 Besides that, he cant give up, i once said hes so addicted and still mad at me for discovering land that has been discovered before, his ego cant get over that and will be reminded everytime he sees my name pop up somewhere, poor liqtard
I've actually pointed it out multiple times in the past but DJ's brain filters out what it doesn't want to hear Years before I even met my girlfriend I thought DJ was an arrogant egotistical loser, and I purposely joined the opposite side of his community match games just to see him bitch and moan when he lost Since then he has not changed a bit, though he eventually got triggerbot to get better at Renegade (probably because anyone that beats him is cheating anyways in his mind) I don't understand why he thinks so highly of himself with regards to Renegade, but he can't come up with a straight answer and assumes I'm jealous or mad at him for briefly dating my girlfriend before I did Like I said before, she dated guys in high school before him As is the case with him, I really don't care whatsoever - I call him out in Renegade for the same reasons I did years ago, which is him having the world's highest opinion of himself and literally nothing to base it on I'm far better at Renegade than he is, but you don't see me trash talking a step above his crazy bullshit It is what it is - the dense German retard is going to think whatever he wants to think, and nothing I can say will change that, but at least everyone else will know what's up In vehicles, he's above the average pub player At sniping, he's average or less in the open - he knows this, which is why he only exclusively fights from behind walls and hugs as hard and as fast as he possibly can The only time I've seen him do well in Renegade was hugging against other players that weren't hugging at all, and he was joyfully talking an excessive amount of trash while doing it In a fight, he would be the guy that either pulls out a gun or goes directly for the other guy's balls I really don't understand what keeps him going, because the biggest lie is the one he keeps telling himself It can't be that I'm right, because the DJ complex clearly states he cannot be wrong
I see I forgot the /sarcasm... But I guess everyone figured it out already. Nevertheless, I think it's better to drop it liquid.
I know you were joking Mr. Goztoe, but you've gone too far this time I was just laying DJ out again, for the record
So... are liquid and dj Eskimo Brothers?
all I need is a cage and some shitty Euro music
omfg that was a fucking photo and a half
Xpert wrote on Sat, 05 September 2015 16:48 Jelly's downfall was because the admins and seniors were never around. And when they were, they kept making decisions based on their opinions alone and not the opinions of the people who actually play on the server. They kept trying to keep the server as close to "vanilla" as possible but that wasn't popular anymore with the direction Rencorner and MPF was going. Great ideas of people who played there were always getting turned down or looked the other way. The server also had a terrible rotation. When new maps were added, it made it worst. We got crappy maps like Arid and Creekdale added to the rotation that killed the player counts instead of going with maps that were similar to Uphill and Tomb that people enjoyed. There were never any moderators and for over 6 years, Jelly never had an application system. It was only implemented when the server was on its last breath and by then it was pointless. Promotions were handed out to current staff just out of desperation to keep those people having the server active while the seniors and admins were never around to participate in the server's needs. Anyone who willingly offered help got denied or never took into consideration. It was our home just as much as it was the players but in the end, our opinions didn't matter despite the constant polls and debates on the forums that were just pointless and false hope just like the Field laser wall idea. It made no sense as to why the people who never even play this game anymore, had a say in what happens to the server. Even behind the scenes in private discussions, all the admins lost interest but yet still had the final say in what happens with the server. I joined the Jelly team when it was still going when liquid was still an admin of it and I wanted to take part in server upgrades with raven. In time, raven became inactive and liquid also stepped away from it. Eventually I was keeping the server up to date but with very limited access and can only apply such updates when an admin was on. Ethenal and Scruffy kept blaming my stuff for the lag issues of Jelly when it wasn't even my stuff causing the problems. When I left the team, they eventually took my stuff out and in the end, the server was still laggy and unplayable. It drove people away to the point where Jelly was no longer the most active server of all hours of the day. Creekdale and Arid sucked bad yes and they killed player count too. It was funny how your server was running your software without the server hanging whenever someone spawned (the SFPS issue), even after playing for hours with 24 players kek. Most of the junior moderators were completely retarded. Another thing is that most players were European yet the server was hosted in the US. Most of the things suggested were made by people who didn't play and the whole keeping the server original thing was kinda comical considering the server was heavily modded and had some retarded stuff like the crates granting vehicles within the first 5 minutes of the match on a 0 starting credits server. Rotation was already pretty bad (about 2 rush maps for every BD map), which caused more players to leave. You'd have 36 players at the end of a BD map, then 28 at the end of the first rush map and than 20 players at the end of the second rush map. The server always filled up on BD maps and emptied out on rush maps. Then of course the server was running C&C_City and C&C_Hourglass. With the lag issue fixed, the server moved to Europe, the 549857394854 shitty rush maps removed and some other stupid shit fixed like the vehicle crates at the start of the map the server would still be filling 50 players easily today. I stopped playing because of the ridiculous lag. The maps UnitXc made sucked too, especially Field2 which was hilariously Nod biased). He made the hills on the map larger so tanks couldn't cover behind the hill so Nod Arties with techs on them would almost always win against everything. Though Field2 was a lot of fun to play because it was so comically.
iran your radio spam download link is broken fix pls and yeah units map were fucking horrible
Hello Iran - I was hoping you would show up for the Jelly going-away event Do you think putting small base defenses on rush maps would have made them more playable or sustainable for Marathon?
It wouldn't? If you're thinking of a couple of guard towers? Take bio for example. If you placed anything stronger, it would put people off. Are you thinking of some middle ground between base defence and rush maps?
It would help out GDI on maps like walls flying where Nod takes out at least one building with SBHs every map. I didn't feel like playing the event. I've been making some mad gains and I actually got a side job at the gym.
liquidv2 wrote on Wed, 09 September 2015 15:01 Do you think putting small base defenses on rush maps would have made them more playable or sustainable for Marathon? using guard towers and turrets would make it more playable IF they respawned, way too easy to kill and usually get destroyed within 15 minutes
One of my old ideas was to have guard towers that did no actual damage but would still fire at enemies, effectively serving as stealth unit detectors It lessens the impact stealth units have without rendering them useless You'd ideally want small base defenses to respawn on a timer or via credits, because having them be a one and done type deal would be nearly pointless Good to hear Iran
If they'd have more health it wouldn't be an issue either tbh. If they had 5 times more health.
I would of helped moderate Jellyserv if I knew it was an issue. I liked playing in Jelly because they kept it as pure as possible. Bad maps and mods hurt servers though. Any server that plays city or walls without flying is out of touch imo
Walls ground is better for GDI on big servers because sbh aren't able to get buildings as easily People would organize Orca rushes that would win games (same with City_Flying), but both maps yielded far more Nod wins than their ground counterparts, which surprised people because Orcas are better than Apaches There was a lot to consider when making a rotation
Yeah kinda sums it up. Read your first sentence and was thinking "walls flying sucks for gdi unless they orca rush", before i read your second sentence. walls fly marathon on big servers is so much fun as nod
Why did you never host a server Iran It would have been interesting to see how it looked when all was said and done IranServ 1. Euro based 2. Pointmod on? 3. How would crates have been done? Game-changing ones only after the first 5 minutes? The reason Jelly never got more strict on that is because it's public and it kept things interesting on those odd occasions where it happened Another few things Jelly always allowed were clearscope, Spongebob c4, and building bar HUDs because it's a public server, not a private league thing like clanwars was I remember TD and Mike both got irritated about those and wanted to disallow them, but that was the competitive spirit within them colliding with the short bus aura of public Renegade players 4. Vehicles modded in any way? Maybe up the splash/damage for MRLS and lower the splash for arties? Or use HaTe's suggestion and make arties fire a little slower? 5. Light base defenses on rush maps to lessen the chance of toddler rushes working? 6. Time limit? Player limit? Use fan maps? 7. ...? 8. Profit
regarding 3. it was because no one was around to do it, i prob posted about that 5 times and nothign was done :< but hey at least timed c4 abuse was fixed
ehhh wrote on Sat, 12 September 2015 23:38 but hey at least timed c4 abuse was fixed You're welcome
oh right the only active coder huhuhuhu that shit got so dumb, not fun having mods kill your ref in the first 2 minutes because 1 person is afk fml
liquidv2 wrote on Sat, 12 September 2015 17:35 Why did you never host a server Iran It would have been interesting to see how it looked when all was said and done IranServ 1. Euro based 2. Pointmod on? 3. How would crates have been done? Game-changing ones only after the first 5 minutes? The reason Jelly never got more strict on that is because it's public and it kept things interesting on those odd occasions where it happened Another few things Jelly always allowed were clearscope, Spongebob c4, and building bar HUDs because it's a public server, not a private league thing like clanwars was I remember TD and Mike both got irritated about those and wanted to disallow them, but that was the competitive spirit within them colliding with the short bus aura of public Renegade players 4. Vehicles modded in any way? Maybe up the splash/damage for MRLS and lower the splash for arties? Or use HaTe's suggestion and make arties fire a little slower? 5. Light base defenses on rush maps to lessen the chance of toddler rushes working? 6. Time limit? Player limit? Use fan maps? 7. ...? 8. Profit u know i hate pointsmod lol. I'd just disable the custom crates completely, but no one likes that so I would just use regular crates for 5 minutes (alrewady made something to do that a few years back). yeah clearscope, spongebob c4 and building bar are major cheats. huge difference playing with and without. It's pretty much impossible to miss c4 with spongebob, clearscope gives you two times more vision scoped and building bars show...building bars the whole time I'd higher splash on mrls instead of lowering splash on artillery, on xperts server with less arty splash things were pretty gay and in marathon it would stalemate things so much and become boring. The heavy splash MRLS was fucking hilarious when we tried it. Light defenses on rush maps, rebuyable or with 5x time more health. I'd also increase light and med tank damage by 8-10 points, pretty ridiculous how light tank does about as much damage as a tech can repair. no time limit and player limit about 40-50.
And reduce pic/rail damage to 70 pls vlimit?
iRANian wrote on Mon, 14 September 2015 07:23 u know i hate pointsmod lol. I'd just disable the custom crates completely, but no one likes that so I would just use regular crates for 5 minutes (alrewady made something to do that a few years back). yeah clearscope, spongebob c4 and building bar are major cheats. huge difference playing with and without. It's pretty much impossible to miss c4 with spongebob, clearscope gives you two times more vision scoped and building bars show...building bars the whole time I'd higher splash on mrls instead of lowering splash on artillery, on xperts server with less arty splash things were pretty gay and in marathon it would stalemate things so much and become boring. The heavy splash MRLS was fucking hilarious when we tried it. Light defenses on rush maps, rebuyable or with 5x time more health. I'd also increase light and med tank damage by 8-10 points, pretty ridiculous how light tank does about as much damage as a tech can repair. no time limit and player limit about 40-50. What would the vehicle limit be if the player max was 50? Not sure if 5x more health for basic defenses is a good thing because that would be more than actual buildings Imagine if Nod lost the Airstrip - it would automatically lose the map because killing a Guard Tower would be harder than the Level 10 Challenge What if they had more HP than the stock ones but automatically respawned anywhere from 5 to 15 minutes after they were destroyed, instead of being a buy-able option? People could work together to kill them and would have windows of opportunity to achieve whatever I think dropping the arty splash range (not like RR did, but maybe 20%) would give GDI a small edge in field and base repairs At the same time, increasing the MRLS splash range by even double would not have too many adverse effects on the game (except around the Field corner, and only if you don't also up the MRLS damage as well) That steroid MRLS week was fucking great, but the sad truth was Nod was winning just as much as before By definition all of those things are cheats, but they were allowed because it was casual Renegade - I never had colored c4, and during the short time where I had the Jelly clearscope I almost never scoped anyways so it was of no benefit to me I never used building bar shit either because I wasn't a fruitcup Having the standard 100 or 200 credit crate early on is still worth rushing and dying for, and I always liked that Dropping PIC and Railgun damage to 70 isn't a terrible idea, and upping the overall damage done by tanks would mean landing shots is more important than before (and that you might need to actually hit enemies to win engagements rather than just have more repair people on you) You might want to give MRLS more health then, because light tanks would turn them into soup otherwise (I think arties would be fine) I'm on board with most of your thoughts - Iran and liquid Renegade would be a shitload more balanced than stock Renegade, and without sacrificing everything that made the game fun to play
ehhh wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 05:08 forgot how stupid building bars were Must be joking... BB next to StealthSkins were the best revolution in Gameplay for a long Time in Renegade, spared a lot of Time, was good looking and motivated a lot of Players to start skinning, sadly this feature went down the Hill with Scripts 4.
^ probably the same logic behind him using triggerbot too
Skins are stupid. I used to use the yellow spongebob c4/timed/proxy replacements and could see them from a mile away. They didn't mean jack in a tunnel because I'd place a timed, turn around, and back again forgetting I placed one and die. I had the bright green stealth skin too for a couple days. When I figured out how to add skins the first thing I added was the clearscope, which I used for a couple years. Just recently in June after reinstalling I tried not running it for a week and realized I didn't need it to snipe. I guess they can be cool for the laughs. One day my brother came up and saw me using my mystery machine GDI apc. "Is that the mystery machine?" Me: "Yup." He never knew anything about skins but he used to play ren a lot years ago.
pretty much only ever used clearscope, used a different reticle but not for the last 5 years i guess dj used the ice cream music stank sound too eh
emitters where the revolution for renegade
ehhh wrote on Wed, 16 September 2015 21:03 pretty much only ever used clearscope, used a different reticle but not for the last 5 years i guess dj used the ice cream music stank sound too eh lol @liquid: it's mainly because techs outrepair light tanks, so even if you land every hit from point blank range the tech will outrepair you lol
would you change how much the tech repairs? i'd decrease how much techs repair tanks personally and keep the building repair the same but yeah light tanks are gash, the added mobility and lower price against the damage and Armour of a medium isnt worth it imo then again maybe its just too compliment the arts, since arts do dumb ass damage
ehhh wrote on Thu, 17 September 2015 08:35 dj used that too i guess Na, no cheatskins for me plx, no Stankicecreamwagon sound,no emitters, you can actually see the skins i used in many of my videos, never changed them, until scripts came out
so building bars, bright c4 skins and neon snipers arent cheatskins? lol
ehhh wrote on Fri, 18 September 2015 15:00 so building bars, bright c4 skins and neon snipers arent cheatskins? lol BBs are def. not Cheatskins, i never used bright or glowing c4skins, just Spongebob c4 which is nonglowing and never used neonsnipers. Sorry, nothing for you to brag about
emitters are but building bars arent? oh lala kinda similar things, giving you an advantage over everyone else in the sevrer :> :<
ehhh wrote on Fri, 18 September 2015 18:58 emitters are but building bars arent? oh lala kinda similar things, giving you an advantage over everyone else in the sevrer :> :< Emitters showed ya f.e. where a Beacon was placed, BB are nothing else then pressing K ingame, you just spare 1 fingertip which is nice in a hectic fightnight.
still gives you an advantage over everyone else?
By definition that makes it a cheat, but don't waste time trying to explain that to DJ - his limited mind has already been set At the same time, he's perfectly ok with using full-out triggerbot in the game, so take everything he says with a grain of salt Good-One-Driver wrote on Thu, 17 September 2015 00:39 emitters where the revolution for renegade That was you, wasn't it? lol I remember you released something awful that pissed people off for a good long time - you jokey joke maker iRANian wrote on Fri, 18 September 2015 02:23 @liquid: it's mainly because techs outrepair light tanks, so even if you land every hit from point blank range the tech will outrepair you lol That always ruined vehicle exchanges in the game What if there were no strong repair guns and Techs just had Engineer repair guns but kept proxy c4, the extra timed, and the extra HP? They would still be worth 350, and the game as a whole would be more about offense than defense because keeping buildings alive would be much harder without the camped Hotwires and Techs overpowering the MCT with repairs
ehhh wrote on Sat, 19 September 2015 09:53 still gives you an advantage over everyone else? No?! Every1 was free to use and install it, it wasnt a Cheat by definiton of ServerOwners, each Server was fine with it, therefore its peoples own fault if they dont use it, but in ur logic its totally ok to blame some1 for doing something others are to lazy or to dumb for...
the everyone can use it argument is pretty dumb lol and im pretty sure not all server owners didnt view it as a cheat
ehhh wrote on Sat, 19 September 2015 20:27 the everyone can use it argument is pretty dumb lol So is your comment more legit? oh wait, u didnt had an argument yet If it is not forbidden it is allowed by definiton, simple as that, y u arguing?
well i guess everyone can use cheats too? imo it ruins the game, just as cheats do
ehhh wrote on Sun, 20 September 2015 10:07 well i guess everyone can use cheats too? imo it ruins the game, just as cheats do Cheats are forbidden on every Server afaik, stop arguing on that level, you cant find a legit reason to compare BBs to Cheats, thats a pretty dumb try lol..
my reason it gives advantage over everyone else just like cheats do? keep up dj pls
ehhh wrote on Sun, 20 September 2015 13:36 my reason it gives advantage over everyone else just like cheats do? keep up dj pls It doesnt? If a Player felt back the Days he needs it for a better Game Performance he could have just installed it. If you dont use it you cant complain bout it beeing used by others,lol, your logic is pretty much fcked up Trist. Same with going to vote for Elections, if you dont vote you have no permission to judge over the Politics lol..
so just like a cheat? so people shouldnt complain about you cheating? ah right i see what this is about now
What he means is some servers were ok with certain cheats being used, and to him that means they aren't cheats Except that they are, by definition, still cheats, and like I said previously, his brain cannot logically proceed any further This is the same guy that would post pictures saying Don't argue with an idiot because they will just beat you with experience or something along those lines - he can't see what's been laid out in front of him because he's so unbelievably dense Reminds me of this Dave Chappelle skit from back in the day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u__W0Qa8v0k
ehhh wrote on Sun, 20 September 2015 19:35 so just like a cheat? so people shouldnt complain about you cheating? ah right i see what this is about now No, cause Cheats are forbidden, therefore you arent allowed to use them, are you really that dumb that u dont understand the difference or are you just trolling?!
well not all cheats are forbidden lol triggerbot is though
ehhh wrote on Mon, 21 September 2015 09:10 well not all cheats are forbidden lol triggerbot is though You must be trolling... Im not aware of 1 single Cheat that is/was by Definition of Server Owners allowed. Enlighten me, on which Server was ERGH, BH, BigBodies, FinalRen, kamikaze and so on allowed?! Must be before i started playing 2007 then...
well some skins were not allowed (defined as cheats as server owners) eh? triggerbot was always disallowed though
Building bars give players an advantage over others. Building bars also don't normally exist within the game. Everyone has to press a button to see building health, why not you? Just because they are available to everyone to download does not mean they aren't considered cheats. What's so hard to grasp about that, DJ?
YesNoMayb wrote on Mon, 21 September 2015 17:51 Building bars give players an advantage over others. Building bars also don't normally exist within the game. Everyone has to press a button to see building health, why not you? Just because they are available to everyone to download does not mean they aren't considered cheats. What's so hard to grasp about that, DJ? Your Point of View is wrong, if it isnt forbidden its allowed until its forbidden. Do not having to press an additional Key to compare with regular Cheats like Trist is doing here is just dumb. While i agree that some skins liek the Neon Skins for Snipers i saw in Forums are close to cheats, thats why they were forbidden on some servers. Anyways, we wont agree on my point of view here, and since we cant use BB anymore i think we should just stop arguing, its exhausting to convince ppl of the right side of view when they blat. dont want to..