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RenegadeX
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description: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-bLTYiaqqk&hd=1 Thoughts?
creator: IceSword7
date: 2013-11-27T03:47:46-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: Sucked before Sucked in 2012 It'll suck again if it ever releases again
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2013-11-27T03:49:45-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: Aircraftkiller wrote on Tue, 26 November 2013 20:49 Sucked before Sucked in 2012 It'll suck again if it ever releases again I'm starting to think that you have mental problems. Poor thing...
creator: YazooGang
date: 2013-11-27T04:49:10-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: It's ut Ofc it sucks
creator: ehhh
date: 2013-11-27T05:59:21-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: It looks first class, triple A.
creator: reborn
date: 2013-11-27T08:44:31-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: YazooGang wrote on Wed, 27 November 2013 05:49 Aircraftkiller wrote on Tue, 26 November 2013 20:49 Sucked before Sucked in 2012 It'll suck again if it ever releases again I'm starting to think that you have mental problems. Poor thing... This. Besides that, looks great, hope to play it soon
creator: -TLS-DJ-EYE-K
date: 2013-11-27T12:42:32-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: Graphics look pretty nice, I'm just afraid it doesn't play like Renegade or even worse; it plays like the Black Dawn release.
creator: iRANian
date: 2013-11-27T12:56:23-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: YazooGang wrote on Tue, 26 November 2013 23:49 Aircraftkiller wrote on Tue, 26 November 2013 20:49 Sucked before Sucked in 2012 It'll suck again if it ever releases again I'm starting to think that you have mental problems. Poor thing... I'm starting to think you never played Renegade X. I'm also of the opinion that you'd make a lousy psychologist. If you played Black Dawn, you'd know what Renegade X's problem is.
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2013-11-27T13:13:02-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: Can't say I'm expecting it to be much better than the last version... hopefully they'll prove me wrong but I've learned from experience not to expect too much from games or mods based on videos and screenshots alone...
creator: danpaul88
date: 2013-11-27T13:42:31-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: The only thing I see about Renegade X is the amazing graphics. The gameplay is garbage and will never be like Renegade.
creator: Xpert
date: 2013-11-27T14:17:16-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: Xpert wrote on Wed, 27 November 2013 09:17 The only thing I see about Renegade X is the amazing graphics. The gameplay is garbage and will never be like Renegade. I'm starting to think that you have mental problems. Poor thing... /The graphics are on par or worse than any standard FTP (Free to Play) fare that currently exists. Certainly nothing to fawn over.
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2013-11-27T17:46:57-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: it's the best that Renegade will ever look, so i see no problem with his statement lol it looks better, but will probably play far worse and won't receive the proper balancing it needs to achieve longevity it's a shame, but it is what it is
creator: liquidv2
date: 2013-11-27T18:16:56-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: The gameplay looks way better than it did before.
creator: shaitan
date: 2013-11-27T20:13:56-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: We'll see.
creator: Lazy5686
date: 2013-11-27T21:42:02-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: Interesting... So, it's all about the gameplay, not fancy graphics? http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&th=40427&start=0&
creator: reborn
date: 2013-11-27T21:42:59-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: reborn wrote on Wed, 27 November 2013 14:42 Interesting... So, it's all about the gameplay, not fancy graphics? http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&th=40427&start=0&
creator: YazooGang
date: 2013-11-27T21:56:38-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: [quote title=reborn wrote on Wed, 27 November 2013 16:42] [quote]
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2013-11-27T22:47:45-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: Aircraftkiller wrote on Wed, 27 November 2013 17:47 Some weird quote that didn't really work.
creator: reborn
date: 2013-11-27T23:01:36-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: Aircraftkiller wrote on Wed, 27 November 2013 17:46 The graphics are on par or worse than any standard FTP (Free to Play) fare that currently exists. Certainly nothing to fawn over. Renegade X shouldn't really be classed as a Free to Play game, since that term is widely used to describe games that are free to play initially, but then have some sort of additional paid-for content or premium features. F2P is similar to what's called the freemium model. Renegade X is good old fashioned freeware through and through.
creator: OWA
date: 2013-11-27T23:23:51-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: Not sure if serious. You linked a thread where gameplay would essentially be a carbon copy of an old mod I worked on many years ago and I'm only assuming that you're using that thread as evidence that I don't care about gameplay or potato? Please elaborate because I'm finding it difficult to see what the purpose of linking that thread was - except for laughter. Because that thread is funny. Pure comedy gold. lel. One Winged Angel wrote on Wed, 27 November 2013 18:23 Aircraftkiller wrote on Wed, 27 November 2013 17:46 The graphics are on par or worse than any standard FTP (Free to Play) fare that currently exists. Certainly nothing to fawn over. Renegade X shouldn't really be classed as a Free to Play game, since that term is widely used to describe games that are free to play initially, but then have some sort of additional paid-for content or premium features. F2P is similar to what's called the freemium model. Renegade X is good old fashioned freeware through and through. It's still a FTP game (Free number two play?) by virtue of the fact that it's free and it's a game. It's certainly not a freemium game by any stretch, but it is free.
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2013-11-27T23:24:51-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: Aircraftkiller wrote on Wed, 27 November 2013 23:24 One Winged Angel wrote on Wed, 27 November 2013 18:23 Aircraftkiller wrote on Wed, 27 November 2013 17:46 The graphics are on par or worse than any standard FTP (Free to Play) fare that currently exists. Certainly nothing to fawn over. Renegade X shouldn't really be classed as a Free to Play game, since that term is widely used to describe games that are free to play initially, but then have some sort of additional paid-for content or premium features. F2P is similar to what's called the freemium model. Renegade X is good old fashioned freeware through and through. It's still a FTP game (Free number two play?) by virtue of the fact that it's free and it's a game. It's certainly not a freemium game by any stretch, but it is free. It's not a F2P game. F2P doesn't mean that it's entirely free to play as the term has mutated to imply that there is in fact things to pay for within the game. For example, World of Tanks, War Thunder and Planetside 2 are all F2P games because they are free to play, but you have the option of paying for other ingame content. Star Trek Online is an F2P MMO, which is another good example. Also, the acronym FTP is never used to mean Free to Play. It always has been and always will be F2P. When ever I see FTP I think of File Transfer Protocol. Freeware is the term you're looking for because it's entirely free with nothing to pay for ever.
creator: OWA
date: 2013-11-28T00:02:01-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: Aircraftkiller wrote on Tue, 26 November 2013 23:49 Sucked before Sucked in 2012 It'll suck again if it ever releases again be nice bro
creator: Renx
date: 2013-11-28T00:24:47-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: The game looks incredible. I don't know where all the hate is stemming from. The original game definitely wasn't very complicated. I don't see why the original gameplay couldn't possibly be replicated and improved in RenegadeX. It's a chance to breath new life into Renegade, and let's face it, it desperately needs it at this point. But, hey, by all means keep sitting around circlejerking a game from 2002.
creator: Jaspah
date: 2013-11-28T00:50:44-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: Quote: title=One Winged Angel wrote on Wed, 27 November 2013 19:02]It's still a FTP game (Free number two play?) by virtue of the fact that it's free and it's a game. It's certainly not a freemium game by any stretch, but it is free. It's not a F2P game. F2P doesn't mean that it's entirely free to play as the term has mutated to imply that there is in fact things to pay for within the game. For example, World of Tanks, War Thunder and Planetside 2 are all F2P games because they are free to play, but you have the option of paying for other ingame content. Star Trek Online is an F2P MMO, which is another good example. Also, the acronym FTP is never used to mean Free to Play. It always has been and always will be F2P. When ever I see FTP I think of File Transfer Protocol. Freeware is the term you're looking for because it's entirely free with nothing to pay for ever. If we're going to delve into technicalities, the number two doesn't mean the word "to" and therefore the acronym is FTP. Otherwise, you're saying Free Two Play. Like when someone says Got Two Go. It doesn't make sense. RenX is a FTP game as far as I'm concerned. Freeware would be equally applicable, but the terms aren't mutually exclusive. Renx: S'up, bruh what it do Jaspah: I have a particular distaste for RenX as it holds the dubious honor of being the only program I've used that has managed to blue-screen Windows 7. That and it played terribly. I can't imagine they suddenly made it magically awesome in the span of a year. Do I hope it comes out well? Sure - I also hope for a lot of other things. History generally speaks for itself. If RenX doesn't suck this time around I'll be impressed. If it does, I won't be disappointed. It's sucked twice so far.
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2013-11-28T01:03:31-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: to be fair, ACK didn't call it a free to play game he just compared the graphics to the free to play games out there but oh well i hope for the best with it
creator: liquidv2
date: 2013-11-28T02:11:10-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: They must have some decent advertising. Six hours ago they had 17,000 views on that video, now they have 35,565.
creator: shaitan
date: 2013-11-28T02:46:03-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: Aircraftkiller wrote on Thu, 28 November 2013 01:03 If we're going to delve into technicalities, the number two doesn't mean the word "to" and therefore the acronym is FTP. Otherwise, you're saying Free Two Play. Like when someone says Got Two Go. It doesn't make sense. RenX is a FTP game as far as I'm concerned. Freeware would be equally applicable, but the terms aren't mutually exclusive. FTP may be what you like to call it, but the rest of the world uses the acronym F2P. It may not make sense, but that's the way it is. Remember, "it's Nod, not NOD" and "it's texturing, not skinning"? Same type of deal here. RenX also isn't a F2P game because the it has no micro-transactions. If you want some clarity on the acronym and the business model, please have a skim over this link and you'll find out that free-to-play doesn't mean totally 100% free in the same way that freeware does: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/134959/the_design_of_freetoplay_games_.php ?print=1
creator: OWA
date: 2013-11-28T03:53:50-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: Free To Play, not Free Two Play. I see what you're saying, but that doesn't invalidate my point. I'm not going to start using the number two to replace the word "to". Context should be enough. If I say FTP game, it's pretty obvious I'm not calling it a file transfer protocol game. Your other examples are iffy - no professional artist I know calls a texture a "skin" (because skinning is something entirely different than textures) and most people who can read know that Nod isn't written as NOD, AKA Naval Ordnance Disposal.
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2013-11-28T04:40:24-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: The single player one that was released had no Command & Conquer feel to it at all for me, the graphics were great many things were great but other than that it didn't have... the heart of cnc I guess I can see the online release coming being better by the videos i'm hoping it'l atleast be alittle better than the sing
creator: Kamuix
date: 2013-11-28T04:48:03-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: Ack, I think you will enjoy the game this time.
creator: Renardin6
date: 2013-11-28T08:44:37-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: does anyone know if there made any gameplay changes? or is it just a complete carbon copy or some shit
creator: ehhh
date: 2013-11-28T09:59:06-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: Aircraftkiller wrote on Thu, 28 November 2013 04:40 Free To Play, not Free Two Play. I see what you're saying, but that doesn't invalidate my point. I'm not going to start using the number two to replace the word "to". Context should be enough. If I say FTP game, it's pretty obvious I'm not calling it a file transfer protocol game. Your other examples are iffy - no professional artist I know calls a texture a "skin" (because skinning is something entirely different than textures) and most people who can read know that Nod isn't written as NOD, AKA Naval Ordnance Disposal. No professional game designer I know uses the acronym FTP to denote Free-to-Play, but I get the logic behind what you're aiming for. Also Free-to-Play means something completely different to freeware and is actually closer to meaning freemium, so the texture/skin comparison isn't far off.
creator: OWA
date: 2013-11-28T20:55:24-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: perhaps to game designers such as yourself or whatever you call yourself to the majority of everyone else, free to play tends to mean free.
creator: ehhh
date: 2013-11-28T21:44:14-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: Renardin6 wrote on Thu, 28 November 2013 03:44 Ack, I think you will enjoy the game this time. Do you and ACK still go at it like 6 years ago as I recall it was like back then? I remember around way back 2006ish everyone teased you about reborn and about how a newer version was never going to be released. like i recall someone making a joke about hell freezing over..blawblaw then reborn. but anyway after I left the ren community in 2007.. in 2012 so 5 years later I was on moddb or something and was thought about reborn and was like, that mods Gotta be out by now i gotsta check it out.. so i checked and it wasn't and it was still in progress It blew my mind like nooo way its not out yet 5 years later ;p releases 10 years apart Im sorry im not coming down on you for it just funny in a good way no insult intended, the 2013 release is great I tried it once and now thinking about it.. Im tempted, is there any online games active do you know? ill check anyway.. but great work obviously you had tons of projects going and prob took your time went back and fourth or whatever.. If I started a renegade conversion mod i'd of given up before I started lol
creator: Kamuix
date: 2013-11-28T21:53:48-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: shaitan wrote on Wed, 27 November 2013 21:46 They must have some decent advertising. Six hours ago they had 17,000 views on that video, now they have 35,565. That's because it was posted on reddit. Also, as far as the "free to play" thing goes, from my understanding that was the agreement between the game's team and EA. EA allowed them to use Command and Conquer assets as long as they never charge money for the game. Sounds good to me?
creator: Jaspah
date: 2013-11-28T22:54:11-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: The Renegade X standalone multiplayer beta will be out on February 26th, 2014.
creator: -TLS-DJ-EYE-K
date: 2013-11-29T18:41:39-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: Kamuix wrote on Thu, 28 November 2013 22:53 Renardin6 wrote on Thu, 28 November 2013 03:44 Ack, I think you will enjoy the game this time. Do you and ACK still go at it like 6 years ago as I recall it was like back then? I remember around way back 2006ish everyone teased you about reborn and about how a newer version was never going to be released. like i recall someone making a joke about hell freezing over..blawblaw then reborn. but anyway after I left the ren community in 2007.. in 2012 so 5 years later I was on moddb or something and was thought about reborn and was like, that mods Gotta be out by now i gotsta check it out.. so i checked and it wasn't and it was still in progress It blew my mind like nooo way its not out yet 5 years later ;p releases 10 years apart Im sorry im not coming down on you for it just funny in a good way no insult intended, the 2013 release is great I tried it once and now thinking about it.. Im tempted, is there any online games active do you know? ill check anyway.. but great work obviously you had tons of projects going and prob took your time went back and fourth or whatever.. If I started a renegade conversion mod i'd of given up before I started lol It is out now.
creator: Renardin6
date: 2013-11-29T18:44:35-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_RefA1yOGw
creator: Renx
date: 2013-11-30T00:25:37-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: Jaspah wrote on Thu, 28 November 2013 15:54 shaitan wrote on Wed, 27 November 2013 21:46 They must have some decent advertising. Six hours ago they had 17,000 views on that video, now they have 35,565. That's because it was posted on reddit. I'm sure Kotaku brought a good number of views.
creator: Agent
date: 2013-11-30T01:04:44-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: Being a tester for it, I can say it isn't a carbon copy of Black Dawn. And not just because it is multiplayer.
creator: Generalcamo
date: 2013-11-30T16:41:07-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: -TLS-DJ-EYE-K wrote on Fri, 29 November 2013 13:41 The Renegade X standalone multiplayer beta will be out on February 26th, 2014. Lol sorry DJ...I couldn't resist!
creator: Starbuzz
date: 2013-11-30T20:15:57-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: Is there any talk of mod tools or mapping tools I wonder? and if it does turn out to be good I think i heard something about lord Aircraftkillers plans of making a Renegade-X Renalert conversion mod using his already existing 3D models and map models.. could happen EDIT: Just saying because it looks like he's bored to tears these days
creator: Kamuix
date: 2013-12-01T08:37:12-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: oh I can feel it getting warm already... the flame...
creator: Ethenal
date: 2013-12-01T19:31:08-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: I am also a tester on it. It is far more fun than Renegade for now. I can't wait to have servers with 64 players.
creator: Renardin6
date: 2013-12-02T12:52:37-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: has damage from ramjets to light vehicles changed?
creator: ehhh
date: 2013-12-02T15:48:25-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: hopefully the maps are scaled a bit larger than Renegade ones, because 64 players on a Renegade map sounds like a not so fun time lol
creator: liquidv2
date: 2013-12-02T17:24:10-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: hey liquid, the maps seem to be scaled up. I found an old 2011 video showing the maps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njMzqLLtqWU I think Fobby and Co did a great job. I was unable to play Black Dawn due to a Vista bug so the last time I played ReneX was their first playable release. I will be installing UT3 to practice first person boomhs aiming skills with the Shock rifle so I will be ready for the ReneX Railgun! Hope it plays like Renegade when it comes to quick-repairing vehicles, dodging hits, sneaking in with helicopters/tech/beacon on some maps and so on. Once on Islands, I saw crush's Mobius with a rep gun fucking expertly quick-repairing all the way to back of the WF door from the base entrance...lmfao...while getting shot at by the entire Nod team. It would be amazing if ReneX could replicate that. I mean that's a core feature of Renegade...quick repairing and getting back in the vehicle ready to fire that next shot so you win the tankfight! So I do not know how the getting in and getting off animations will interfere with that...hopefully not. Because that is a key feature. Does anyone know how the nicks system work in ReneX? Will there be a direct connect option?
creator: Starbuzz
date: 2013-12-02T18:36:50-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: no weapon drop for now from what I know.
creator: Renardin6
date: 2013-12-02T21:30:19-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: bigger maps? i'd rather have the maps like renegade ones, suitable for 2v2 - 20v20.
creator: ehhh
date: 2013-12-03T07:51:19-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: ehhh wrote on Tue, 03 December 2013 08:51 bigger maps? i'd rather have the maps like renegade ones, suitable for 2v2 - 20v20. This. Maybe larger ones for the occasional 64p. I doubt however if there will be many servers that will get anywhere near 64p though.
creator: EvilWhiteDragon
date: 2013-12-03T09:03:21-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: Considering the coverage we got (http://renegade-x.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=41 just look at the top few topics), I would say 64 players is very probable.
creator: Generalcamo
date: 2013-12-08T00:30:04-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: I like how you say "we" like you work on it or something lol Testing isn't "working" on it
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2013-12-08T04:44:18-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: it's helping out in some way though it helps others that work on it
creator: liquidv2
date: 2013-12-08T13:13:44-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: generalcamo wrote on Sun, 08 December 2013 01:30 Considering the coverage we got (http://renegade-x.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=41 just look at the top few topics), I would say 64 players is very probable. If there's only one server, yes, it's not unlikely, but assuming the server is released as well... I doubt it.
creator: EvilWhiteDragon
date: 2013-12-08T17:34:59-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: I never knew black dawn was released till this thread!!! I played it the other day and thought it was just great!
creator: reborn
date: 2013-12-08T19:23:46-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: The gameplay is much better than Black Dawn. Remember Black Dawn was merely a way for them to accomplish something (building original assets since they were no longer permitted to use UT3 stock assets) while giving fans something to play with in the mean time. It was by no means a polished experience made to represent how RenX's gameplay would be. It does play like Renegade, but it isn't a carbon copy. It's kind of hard to explain. Mainly because I don't want to say too much about it without the team's permission, but also partly because of how the game's design is handled. It manages to stay very close to what makes Renegade Renegade but still feel new and fresh. The balance is very close to how it was in Renegade with a few obvious changes due to some new weapons and weapon controls/functions. And yes the maps are slightly larger because infantry can now sprint.
creator: R315r4z0r
date: 2013-12-09T04:32:50-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: So is there anyone who is actually somewhat good at Renegade who can tell us if it plays like Renegade or not?
creator: iRANian
date: 2013-12-09T08:05:00-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: funny
creator: R315r4z0r
date: 2013-12-09T20:16:34-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: he has a valid point - i'd like to see what Spoony thought of it he's well-known enough that they'd let him beta test it, i'm sure
creator: liquidv2
date: 2013-12-09T22:47:31-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: crush crew can lobby war on it
creator: ehhh
date: 2013-12-09T23:10:33-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: lol i doubt lobby wars would remotely resemble Renegade
creator: Ethenal
date: 2013-12-10T03:46:37-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: lobby wars is competitive renegade
creator: Xpert
date: 2013-12-10T05:09:11-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: Xpert wrote on Tue, 10 December 2013 06:09 lobby wars is competitive renegade Is there such thing as "uncompetitive renegade", then? I though it was about winning...
creator: EvilWhiteDragon
date: 2013-12-10T09:32:14-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: why wouldnt it resmeble renegade? easy way to see how the balance is imo
creator: ehhh
date: 2013-12-10T12:07:03-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: lol because it's on the Unreal engine. I just really doubt that game plays anything like it looks
creator: Ethenal
date: 2013-12-10T14:50:33-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: Ethenal wrote on Tue, 10 December 2013 09:50 lol because it's on the Unreal engine. I just really doubt that game plays anything like it looks Unreal has been used to make MMORPG's, RTS, FPS, Puzzle games, flight simulators, Third person shooters and many other game types. Why do you feel that they wont be able to make a game like Renegade on it? I've never used the engine, so maybe you have some experience with it?
creator: reborn
date: 2013-12-10T15:26:08-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: oh you meant renx? "lol i doubt lobby wars would remotely resemble Renegade" wtf
creator: ehhh
date: 2013-12-10T15:58:42-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: That's what I thought trist lol. I was referring to Renegade not Renegade X.
creator: Xpert
date: 2013-12-10T17:13:55-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: I meant that lobby wars in Renegade-X would not resemble lobby wars in Renegade, sorry, my ambiguous usage of language constructs that are required by apes to understand each other carry on
creator: Ethenal
date: 2013-12-10T17:43:49-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Tue, 10 December 2013 04:32 Xpert wrote on Tue, 10 December 2013 06:09 lobby wars is competitive renegade Is there such thing as "uncompetitive renegade", then? I though it was about winning... Competitive Renegade is clanwars/funwars/lobbywars. The main point being that both teams are communicating on teamspeak, trying their best to defeat the other team. Public server Renegade is 'casual' Renegade. Anybody testing Ren-X ever play a Renegade clanwar before?
creator: GoTWhisKéY
date: 2013-12-10T18:45:48-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: This is a clanwar player's mind during CW's: public player's mind during public server games: I think it is fair to say that CW players can througly test gameplay mechanics much better than public players who are just going to be fapping over the Unreal 3D models, first person vehicle views, pretty explosions, and hiding under the tall grass looking at that pretty gun remakes.
creator: Starbuzz
date: 2013-12-10T20:14:35-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: figured it be best way to test the balance imo
creator: ehhh
date: 2013-12-10T20:36:46-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: Adding sprint/stamina and random spread on the hitscan weapons sounds like the balance will be completely changed. Would love to play Renegade again but not if it's full of battlefield/cod garbage
creator: Renx
date: 2013-12-11T06:30:36-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: Oh great... arrogant CW players think that pubbers can't play...
creator: EvilWhiteDragon
date: 2013-12-11T09:53:46-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: nothing to do with that, crush crew is basically pubbers anyway. competitive smaller games can test the balance better than any other normal public server, where majority of the players aren't playing serous.
creator: ehhh
date: 2013-12-11T12:04:48-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: ehhh wrote on Wed, 11 December 2013 13:04 nothing to do with that, crush crew is basically pubbers anyway. competitive smaller games can test the balance better than any other normal public server, where majority of the players aren't playing serous. I agree with you that smaller games do indeed allow for better testing the balance than large games, but the size of the game doesn't have anything to do with CW players or not. In any case, it doesn't matter if CW players like it, in the sense that the general public should like the game primarily for it to be a success. I doubt any game can become and remain popular by just clan players. They might play an important role in keeping it alive and improving the game, but they still need pubbers.
creator: EvilWhiteDragon
date: 2013-12-11T12:26:39-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: Renx wrote on Wed, 11 December 2013 00:30 Adding sprint/stamina and random spread on the hitscan weapons sounds like the balance the will be completely changed. Would love to play Renegade against but not if it's full of battlefield/cod garbage lol if that's true, particularly the random spread, since if you're making a Renegade clone it would probably be quite logical to emulate the fact that no bullet ever deviates from its trajectory, ever? Changing that = not Renegade (though arty shells do deviate some)
creator: Ethenal
date: 2013-12-11T19:36:35-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: yeah supposed to be some recoil or some shit on rifles too, be interesting if pistols are strong as fuck too
creator: ehhh
date: 2013-12-11T20:25:08-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: If you don't think bullets have random spread in stock ren then you weren't paying attention. Some do, and some don't. And EWD, I think the point was that competitive teams that play together and work together could test the balance well. I don't believe anyone besides Starbuzz(I didn't even know he ever did CWs) was trying to ignite a debate about the skills of normal pub players vs CW players. I think the point was that you'd get more of a sense of the balance if you didn't have a bunch of people going lone wolf, and instead had a team cooperating together. Now I'm remembering when Spoony would randomly get SBH in our CWs lol.
creator: Tunaman
date: 2013-12-11T21:50:35-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: is that who pinball got that from
creator: ehhh
date: 2013-12-11T21:54:04-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: the thinking here, EWD, is that a balanced game will have more longevity than an unbalanced one (whether it's competitive players or casual players playing it) the best way to get to the bottom of things is by unleashing the try-hards on it you seem to be struggling with this concept, or just really aren't able to grasp it in the first place
creator: liquidv2
date: 2013-12-12T12:08:25-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: Tunaman wrote on Wed, 11 December 2013 15:50 If you don't think bullets have random spread in stock ren then you weren't paying attention. Some do, and some don't. Okay yeah the chaingun and things like that do have a spread, but how much of a spread? barely even noticeable in the slightest what I think of when they say bullet spread is that the ramjet and sniper rifle no longer follows a perfectly straight path, which may not be true (but if they did change that, whether it's completely unrealistic that is as Renegade as Renegade gets)
creator: Ethenal
date: 2013-12-12T16:02:19-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 09 December 2013 13:16 funny Not sure what's funny?
creator: iRANian
date: 2013-12-14T16:46:05-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: I'm in. Where's Spoony?
creator: Ne0
date: 2013-12-18T21:46:14-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: liquidv2 wrote on Thu, 12 December 2013 07:08 you seem to be struggling with this concept, or just really aren't able to grasp it in the first place Or just really offended for no reason based on Starbuzz trying to start a fire lol.
creator: Xpert
date: 2013-12-19T08:26:27-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: that might be it i just think Starbuzz has a serious point that no one important with them is taking seriously but, ultimately, time will tell
creator: liquidv2
date: 2013-12-20T00:35:59-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: clanwar trash can wait until it's released publicly, I doubt anyone *that plays it* wants the "tryhards" insulting all the beta testers/developers.
creator: Sean
date: 2013-12-20T16:15:31-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: Sean wrote on Fri, 20 December 2013 11:15 clanwar trash can wait until it's released publicly, I doubt anyone *that plays it* wants the "tryhards" insulting all the beta testers/developers. You're the only one here insulting anyone... and they way you judge a group of people based on a few - it seems like you are the trash to me.
creator: GoTWhisKéY
date: 2013-12-20T18:43:48-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: GoTWhisKéY wrote on Fri, 20 December 2013 13:43 Sean wrote on Fri, 20 December 2013 11:15 clanwar trash can wait until it's released publicly, I doubt anyone *that plays it* wants the "tryhards" insulting all the beta testers/developers. You're the only one here insulting anyone... and they way you judge a group of people based on a few - it seems like you are the trash to me. It's Mr Triggerbot. Of course he's trash, LOL.
creator: Xpert
date: 2013-12-20T19:05:14-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: love how people hate cw players, when basically its public players that play lobby wars nowadays + 2 cw players. stop been such a tool sean.
creator: ehhh
date: 2013-12-20T19:37:54-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: I think some of the hate is justified. You can't deny there wasn't or isn't at present - a circlejerky /arrogant mindset regarding cw cc players that permeates through the forums and in game from time to time. Ermgergerd, do u even clan wars bro? Did u even clan wars bro? o what's that? I can't hear you over my incessant fapping to the old school cw players. DAE oldschool rene players? Only 0ld5ch00l3r5 will remember this, etc. Conversely, he could just be jelly. On topic: This community is fucking small. Just allow as many players to test as possible. Who cares if you get less qualitative feedback; it's not like you're going to have a huge disgruntled player base if perfect balance can't be achieved in one patch /release.
creator: snpr1101
date: 2013-12-21T14:16:17-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: miss guided hate*
creator: ehhh
date: 2013-12-21T15:21:10-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: GoTWhisKéY wrote on Fri, 20 December 2013 12:43 Sean wrote on Fri, 20 December 2013 11:15 clanwar trash can wait until it's released publicly, I doubt anyone *that plays it* wants the "tryhards" insulting all the beta testers/developers. You're the only one here insulting anyone... and they way you judge a group of people based on a few - it seems like you are the trash to me. This is the dude that got caught with triggerbot while he was AFK because somebody ran in front of his character and got blasted... of course he's trash
creator: Ethenal
date: 2013-12-21T16:07:29-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: The reason people think CW players are obnoxious is because trooprm02 ran around n00bstories and Jelly pretending to be one.
creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2013-12-22T04:08:22-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: nah there were, albeit even worse than troop, there's none left anymore though.
creator: ehhh
date: 2013-12-22T05:04:25-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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creator: -TLS-DJ-EYE-K
date: 2013-12-22T23:36:25-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: There's a reason why we took two years after Black Dawn to develop the multiplayer version. We heard the feedback and constructive criticism, and took our time to develop a better game. It reminds me of the people who judged C&C Renegade by its mediocre singleplayer and missed out on the multiplayer. C&C Renegade is a multiplayer game, as is Renegade X. Whether you enjoyed it or not, Black Dawn was downloaded over 800,000 times, and most reviews were positive. Most of the criticisms had to do with the AI (which we didn't program in BD) and voice acting - both of which have nothing to do with our multiplayer mode. We've coded a completely new AI that can actually play C&C mode - buy vehicles and characters, defend and attack the base, repair buildings and units, and behave challengingly. Even the way our weapons and vehicles handle is completely different. Now, I know you won't take me on my word, and that's why I'm inviting the RenegadeForums to take part in our Community Beta Test. I am specifically lending this opportunity to the naysayers here (ACK, iRANian, danpaul, Xpert, liquidv2), the Renegade oldies, TT, n00bstories, Jelly, and pretty much every C&C Renegade clan or community out there - dead or living. Go here: http://www.renegade-x.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=71158 You can either help us in giving life to Renegade and C&C mode, or you can continue sitting on your hands complaining until the game dies. W3D Ren is not getting more popular. If anything, it is just about dead. On the other hand, our trailer got 100,000 views in three days. It got on major gaming sites like PCGamer, RockPaperShotgun, Kotaku, and many others. Renegade X is happening now, it is relevant, and it is the way forward if we pull together as a community. Westwood is gone, EA is not going to save you, and so the Renegade community needs to pull together and do something for ourselves. Plenty of Renegade oldies, including old clans and communities, are meeting up at the Renegade X fo…
creator: [NE]Fobby[GEN]
date: 2013-12-24T20:30:29-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: So back to my question did anyone who is actually good at Renegade play this beta?
creator: iRANian
date: 2013-12-24T21:32:35-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: iRANian wrote on Tue, 24 December 2013 22:32 So back to my question did anyone who is actually good at Renegade play this beta? What is the connection between someone who is good @ regular renegade and renegade x? i outplay many people at different games but they will most likely outplay me at other games, so therefore your question makes no sense.
creator: -TLS-DJ-EYE-K
date: 2013-12-24T23:23:13-00:00

Re: RenegadeX
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description: iRANian wrote on Tue, 24 December 2013 16:32 So back to my question did anyone who is actually good at Renegade play this beta? lol
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2013-12-25T07:11:16-00:00