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So obsessed iFag, such a shame, go see a Doc maybe?
liquidv2 wrote on Fri, 11 October 2013 15:01 WASTED
Ethenal wrote on Fri, 11 October 2013 15:33 liquidv2 wrote on Fri, 11 October 2013 15:01 WASTED
Gen_Blacky wrote on Fri, 11 October 2013 18:10 Ethenal wrote on Fri, 11 October 2013 15:33 liquidv2 wrote on Fri, 11 October 2013 15:01 WASTED
on the first page, MDK says: without the evidence we can not ban people well we could but then we would become like other servers and that would be wrong take a look at what they did to Iran the irony is actually pretty humorous however, if you take a look at the video it ignores a key point regarding Renegade physics: shooting in first person on an incline or decline will show the player shooting the ground sometimes like i posted on the video, you can recreate this on Complex while firing from the ramps up to the middle and whatnot
^ He was clearly just shooting in first person, best mods in ren, some 'proof' you have there
you MPF guys might want to consider overturning that ban lol
I told Ethenal yesterday on IRC that it was first person lol. It's pretty annoying when you're actually playing and people do stuff like that to you when they're hardly or not out. :/
Did MPF remove their best moderator, DJ? wtf
I found some more publicly posted staff discussions like my ban! http://i.minus.com/iumGEgzFCm36O.png http://i5.minus.com/ii9JTvNo5iC4A.png And it seems that their mods really hate Nuke and ignore his constant rule breaking because he is their biggest donator! http://minus.com/m0x3kunYY9sqw
Last reply by bigjimmer on the first page, "if there are any staff that dont find this legit, then you do not know how to spot hax and and should probably learn how." hahahahhaa Step 1, suspect cheating Srep 2, ban without proof Step 3, ban vultima cos he clearly joined to harras the players/mods
lol that Wyld guy is obsessed with being a moderator everywhere. I will never understand why he feels the need to kiss so much ass online just to be an e-janitor. Isn't he like 50 or 60? That's really sad lol /Iran, you should just donate some money to them so they'll let you play //They clearly only care about money ///That and making terribad Renegade mods based off stuff I made over 11 years ago
I'm going to double-post to mention one very important point. When "zunnie" talks about trolls, this is what he means: Troll being defined, as usual, as someone who you disagree with but whose ideas you lack the intellectual capacity to rationally deal with. Why not just use "heretic" instead? It's closer to your real meaning.
i like how he posted proof that zunnie banned him haha
MPF might want to stop posting IPs publicly like that they don't have to; it's just common courtesy i think zunnie's logic on Iran's ban was that they couldn't prove him a cheater, nor could they prove him innocent that logic is bad, because literally anyone in Renegade could be cheating - that doesn't mean they're going to be good, and it doesn't mean you can or will be able to prove it lol Hunter-Seeker claimed Iran had been a cheater not long before the ban GenOBrien's thinking is that a player can only get 100+ kills if they die 100+ times in doing so - it shows they don't see many good snipers very often (this point is valid whether Iran was actually cheating or not, which he's shown he honestly did not have to to do what he did) the MPF-should-unban list now includes three players (forgot Vulgina)
(1) This ban was 5 months ago. Why discuss now? Iran you that bored or can't find a ban like yours since you were ban so you have to go backwards in time? ehhh Enjoy! (2) The Player NEVER posted to contest to state his case. Says a lot about guilt. Most innocents post immediately. So the player didn't care so why should anyone else? Had he posted maybe he would have been unban. (3) Too funny I didn't even reply in that thread but ACK you but yet bring me up (again). Your continued obvious obsession (jealousy?) with me seems to be ripping you apart based on how much you bring me up. Do you like drool or spit at your screen when you post about me? You must really be abused in real life or just have a shitty life to act like you do on these forums. Truly pitiful m8. Come on big alpha male what you got to say now? Maybe a cool ACK picture or snappy reply that your 2 or 3 fans can masturbate over??? lol
vultima's evading btw, pls ban him and wyld its pretty obvious rambo6 isn't cheating, he didnt contest his ban because I dont think he knows what a forum is, let alone know his own name
Wyld1USA wrote on Mon, 01 July 2013 13:11 You know Jim, his posts aren't worth comment. In fact Jim, I feel sorry for ack and have said so before. Hey, remember that post? Specifically this part? Wyld1USA wrote on Mon, 01 July 2013 13:11 You know Jim, his posts aren't worth comment. In fact Jim, I feel sorry for ack and have said so before. Wyld1USA wrote on Mon, 01 July 2013 13:11 You know Jim, his posts aren't worth comment. Wyld1USA wrote on Mon, 01 July 2013 13:11 his posts aren't worth comment. Look at the e-janitor responding to posts that aren't worth commenting on. Here's what really happens when E-JanitorUSA responds to a thread: Hmm, I wonder how I can post a reply to this... Better toss in some Dr. Phil psychobabble to sound smart! Oh peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. They're arguing again! It's my job as E-Janitor to stop this calamity! Writing a lengthy post full of psychobabble will definitely make me a lot of friends and ensure that this dead community never forgets the name E-JanitorUSA! Whew, posting psychobabble on forums is hard work! I hope they've learned their lesson - they'll never disagree with me again. I better get back to my e-janitor job so people won't break rules in a video game server!
you should ban a full server of players and keep the ones that don't post banned on the premise that they were cheating lol it's really about principle here - do you honestly think rambo6 was cheating there, once you take into consideration that the shots he took were fully legit? unless there's some other evidence somewhere that proves him a cheater, you should really release that guy even if he never actually comes back, it's the right thing to do and what ehhh said is true - rambo6 can't actually type words other than "hahahaha" or "wasted" let vultima back in since his ban was really a misunderstanding or language barrier thing - he made a sarcastic comment that was taken as literally as possible
Wyld1USA wrote on Sat, 12 October 2013 08:21 (2) The Player NEVER posted to contest to state his case. Says a lot about guilt. Most innocents post immediately. So the player didn't care so why should anyone else? Had he posted maybe he would have been unban. I got banned for 'cheating' in a two-bit server once. I didn't contest it because I realized the moderator team was comprised of illiterate, drooling retard jagoffs. An entirely plausible situation in this case.
iRANian wrote on Sat, 12 October 2013 03:14 Did MPF remove their best moderator, DJ? wtf DJ no longer moderator, discuss
Hey I got g-lined the other day because I was being too honest with how shit their maps are and how stupid their Red Alert mod is. Not to mention my debates on the forums were apparently categorized as "flaming" or being a douche instead of constructive criticism. [08:36:34] <Buns{AFK}> What's wrong, can't take criticism? [08:37:20] <zunnie> i can [08:37:30] <zunnie> but you are just being an asshole all the time everywhere i go lol [08:37:34] <zunnie> cya around [08:37:40] <Buns{AFK}> Obviously you can't since you're so butt hurt and kicked me from all the channels. [23:39:15] -cola.multiplayerforums.com- *** You have been banned from this server. Please contact zunnie@multiplayerforums.com for more information. - [23:39:15] Closing link: [G-Lined: Insulting of Members] Yay :] So much to discuss!
Wyld1USA wrote on Sat, 12 October 2013 11:21 (2) The Player NEVER posted to contest to state his case. Says a lot about guilt. Most innocents post immediately. So the player didn't care so why should anyone else? Had he posted maybe he would have been unban. http://multiplayerforums.com/index.php?/topic/1390-banned-for-cheating/ So that didn't exist?
topic was already hidden - must have been something they didn't want you to see lol nothing really hot at this point zunnie - this has just become the norm, sadly free rambo6 and Vultima (and Iran, if MDK's Senior Moderator words are to be held true!)
Since the thread in question seems to have, ahem, "Dissappeared," I will post a screenshot. So, uhh, what was that about Iran not posting a thread?
the ball is in Wyld's court now which is probably fine with him, because i understand he enjoys basketball
generalcamo wrote on Mon, 14 October 2013 17:45 Since the thread in question seems to have, ahem, "Dissappeared," Gotta hide the embarrassment!
shaitan wrote on Tue, 15 October 2013 04:38 You are pretty embarrassing.
you dont even play you cant judge me when your a bag
did you unban rambo6 yet?
I was only speaking to Rambo not posting. Not getting involved with Iran's Ban. My opinion on Rambo's ban is not going to over turn the ban. I can see where Rambo's shots were hitting the ground and killing players at the same time, so I can see the concern by the mod staff. Had Rambo posted, it probably could have been sorted is all I am saying. I find it very odd he never did post to contest and clear his good name. And yeah Basketball is best sport. You use pretty much all your muscles and your mind at the same time. Making 10 out of 10 shots, shutting down the player I am guarding, getting a nice sweat on is an awesome feeling, and just the fun we have. (like playing ren with your buds on TS) The next morning can be rough but it smooths out as the day progresses. And ACK you can just stop. Your pitiful attempts to find a button to push is really making you look desperate man. I could care less about you and anything you say. (I really don't even read it lol) But hey you want to keep embarrassing yourself, knock yourself out lol.
Wyld1USA wrote on Wed, 16 October 2013 12:33 I can see where Rambo's shots were hitting the ground and killing players at the same time, so I can see the concern by the mod staff. we mentioned this - it's because rambo was firing in first person, and there are cases where a player can hit something in first that they could not in third the result is what appears to be a player hitting the ground, when in reality that's what they'd be hitting in third person i'm sure you've encountered this at some point in Renegade, because it's coming up on 12 years old now you can see it for yourself on maps like Complex, when a player is firing upwards from down a ramp (it will work anywhere that there's a low ground vs. high ground situation) you banned him based on a misunderstanding of Renegade and Renegade physics - you should really unban him immediately, as he's guilty of nothing but being persistently annoying lol
When you invis hug it looks like your shots are hitting the wall so does that mean everyone who knows how to invis uses wall hacks? Rambo def doesn't cheat hes not even that good lol.
well he's too good for MPF apparently
jellies biggest scrub is too skilled for mpf servers huehuehuehue
Good-One-Driver wrote on Wed, 16 October 2013 13:17 When you invis hug it looks like your shots are hitting the wall so does that mean everyone who knows how to invis uses wall hacks? Rambo def doesn't cheat hes not even that good lol. Exactly LOL! The fact you guys banned rambo for cheating is just fucking hilarious. What's more hilarious (if that's an appropriate term here) is experienced members of Renegade informing you guys that that is simply a first person glitch (though I myself wasn't aware of it 'til now), and you guys simply discard it because "he must be guilty if he didn't immediately make a forum account and post in defense of himself!" Hey, we've used a similar policy before, but not for someone that we knew for a god damn fact was wrongly banned! Also, I've never in my entire rene-career seen a wallhack that would make the floors invisible (hence the term, wallhack), which would have to be the case in the video of rambo. You guys are free to run your community as you choose and I will not infringe upon that right, but I do reserve the right to make fun of you guys for doing a terrible job!
I personally think it's not a 1st person glitch, but just the general inaccuracy in the renegade netcode (which is also the reason BH "tests" were not very accurate).
Ethenal wrote on Wed, 16 October 2013 13:35 Good-One-Driver wrote on Wed, 16 October 2013 13:17 When you invis hug it looks like your shots are hitting the wall so does that mean everyone who knows how to invis uses wall hacks? Rambo def doesn't cheat hes not even that good lol. Exactly LOL! The fact you guys banned rambo for cheating is just fucking hilarious. What's more hilarious (if that's an appropriate term here) is experienced members of Renegade informing you guys that that is simply a first person glitch (though I myself wasn't aware of it 'til now), and you guys simply discard it because "he must be guilty if he didn't immediately make a forum account and post in defense of himself!" Hey, we've used a similar policy before, but not for someone that we knew for a god damn fact was wrongly banned! Also, I've never in my entire rene-career seen a wallhack that would make the floors invisible (hence the term, wallhack), which would have to be the case in the video of rambo. You guys are free to run your community as you choose and I will not infringe upon that right, but I do reserve the right to make fun of you guys for doing a terrible job!
are you talking about this case specifically, or Renegade in general?
Good-One-Driver wrote on Tue, 15 October 2013 18:32 shaitan wrote on Tue, 15 October 2013 04:38 You are pretty embarrassing.
The last time we banned someone without 100% conclusive proof they released a triggerbot.
Lazy5686 wrote on Fri, 18 October 2013 05:18 The last time we banned someone without 100% conclusive proof they released a triggerbot. Thanks a lot jelly lol.
the guy has never been good without cheats lol i called that one years and years ago
Lazy5686 wrote on Fri, 18 October 2013 06:18 The last time we banned someone without 100% conclusive proof they released a triggerbot. Yeah, but at least we were right.
Gen_Blacky wrote on Fri, 18 October 2013 10:45 Lazy5686 wrote on Fri, 18 October 2013 05:18 The last time we banned someone without 100% conclusive proof they released a triggerbot. Thanks a lot jelly lol. I blame raven.
Lazy5686 wrote on Sat, 19 October 2013 20:27 Gen_Blacky wrote on Fri, 18 October 2013 10:45 Lazy5686 wrote on Fri, 18 October 2013 05:18 The last time we banned someone without 100% conclusive proof they released a triggerbot. Thanks a lot jelly lol. I blame raven. Should blame me this time. I mean... the guy did dedicate the triggerbot to my name since I'm the one who was on his ass for years LOL.
So if they ban Rambo6 for first person glitch. Why hasnt DJ been banned for glitch abusing cause thats all he seems to do in MPF, Rencorner and TMX and we all know DJ uses triggerbot as well thats why he's so good at sniping
Tiny wrote on Sun, 20 October 2013 08:08 So if they ban Rambo6 for first person glitch. Why hasnt DJ been banned for glitch abusing cause thats all he seems to do in MPF, Rencorner and TMX and we all know DJ uses triggerbot as well thats why he's so good at sniping Why haven't you been banned from life Wilo Jr.
Tiny wrote on Sun, 20 October 2013 05:08 So if they ban Rambo6 for first person glitch. Why hasnt DJ been banned for glitch abusing cause thats all he seems to do in MPF, Rencorner and TMX and we all know DJ uses triggerbot as well thats why he's so good at sniping u forgot invisihugging on jelly (not allowed) whenever he plays there, although it has been a while ago since he played there.
Tiny wrote on Sun, 20 October 2013 05:08 So if they ban Rambo6 for first person glitch. Why hasnt DJ been banned for glitch abusing cause thats all he seems to do in MPF, Rencorner and TMX and we all know DJ uses triggerbot as well thats why he's so good at sniping DJ sucks at sniping and renegade all together
He is a good cage dancer though, he let people throw things at him, he was the entertainment at Trist's marriage to his husband big barry
i was there for that wedding. baguette was the choice of food.
Xpert wrote on Sun, 20 October 2013 15:13 Tiny wrote on Sun, 20 October 2013 08:08 So if they ban Rambo6 for first person glitch. Why hasnt DJ been banned for glitch abusing cause thats all he seems to do in MPF, Rencorner and TMX and we all know DJ uses triggerbot as well thats why he's so good at sniping Why haven't you been banned from life Wilo Jr. For once i agree with you Sir Tiny seems still be mad that noone wanted him when he begged for be putting back into modlist. He also claimed he has been teaching every1 in how to detect cheats and stuff over years, he must have been a terrible mentor since noone wanted him back hihi...
Tiny seems still be mad that noone wanted him when he begged for be putting back into modlist. maybee if he made a donation he could mod
lol that's funny cause zunnie asked me a year ago if i wanted to be a mpf mod
Xpert wrote on Sun, 20 October 2013 20:56 i was there for that wedding. baguette was the choice of food. It was indeed, trist also got a baguette wedding cake as he wanted! -TLS-DJ-EYE-K wrote on Mon, 21 October 2013 02:45 Tiny seems still be mad that noone wanted him when he begged for be putting back into modlist. He also claimed he has been teaching every1 in how to detect cheats and stuff over years, he must have been a terrible mentor since noone wanted him back hihi... Probably explains why their modding is so bad
it looks like they at least try to, but it just goes all wrong they ban some players for cheating with no proof of anything, and others off of videos proving their innocence it's actually pretty crazy and afterwards they try to justify why they aren't removing any of the bans, even though their reasons why have been shown to make no sense at all
Another bites the dust? lol http://multiplayerforums.com/index.php?/topic/2475-goodbye/
Like Wyld said, only the guilty get that hostile. That dude's full of shit, lol.
There hasn't been any evidence posted to suggest it's anything other than a server glitch. Reminds me of when I found a hidden Renegade feature that was pretty funny but caused people to get BIATCH banned.
Now only if they were running some sort of anti cheat
dont understand why there dont use the anti cheat still
Maybe because its newmaps and they cba to add entries for every model/file that is downloaded for their maps?
but allow people to cheat instead k
it adds to the "gameplay" of their maps shh
VuLTiMa wrote on Tue, 22 October 2013 21:29 Maybe because its newmaps and they cba to add entries for every model/file that is downloaded for their maps? I'm *fairly* sure that anything that's included in the maps should be allowed on the client. Oh, and I'm too lazy to search for it now.
EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Tue, 22 October 2013 15:07 VuLTiMa wrote on Tue, 22 October 2013 21:29 Maybe because its newmaps and they cba to add entries for every model/file that is downloaded for their maps? I'm *fairly* sure that anything that's included in the maps should be allowed on the client. Oh, and I'm too lazy to search for it now. Nope, we've had several issues where everyone gets kicked from the server because one random map file was blocked. Kind of irritating.
Lazy5686 wrote on Tue, 22 October 2013 21:03 EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Tue, 22 October 2013 15:07 VuLTiMa wrote on Tue, 22 October 2013 21:29 Maybe because its newmaps and they cba to add entries for every model/file that is downloaded for their maps? I'm *fairly* sure that anything that's included in the maps should be allowed on the client. Oh, and I'm too lazy to search for it now. Nope, we've had several issues where everyone gets kicked from the server because one random map file was blocked. Kind of irritating. Yes, this is actually quite a problem we have. I mentioned for one of us to make a thread in the TT subforum about it, but I kinda forgot. Usually when we put a new map on we haven't tested, a whole 40-50 player game gets kicked out because of the anticheat.
I do remember it being an issue there. Now they rely on that screenshot tool to find cheats.. which can annoy people.
Neh they made about 50-70 screenshots of me before banning me. I know because their screenshots folder is public and someone told me about it. still got banned LOL
iRANian wrote on Thu, 24 October 2013 13:38 Neh they made about 50-70 screenshots of me before banning me. I know because their screenshots folder is public and someone told me about it. still got banned LOL Still mad ^
liquidv2 wrote on Sat, 12 October 2013 11:41 you should ban a full server of players and keep the ones that don't post banned on the premise that they were cheating lol it's really about principle here - do you honestly think rambo6 was cheating there, once you take into consideration that the shots he took were fully legit? unless there's some other evidence somewhere that proves him a cheater, you should really release that guy even if he never actually comes back, it's the right thing to do and what ehhh said is true - rambo6 can't actually type words other than "hahahaha" or "wasted" l vultima back in since his ban was really a misunderstanding or language barrier thing - he made a sarcastic comment that was taken as literally as possible Yeah I agree about the principle and no I don't think he was cheating as I know him. But It's always hard to defend or fight for a player when they aren't trying themselves. Liquid you know me well enough to know I do my best to clear innocent players. I don't always have the power or cooperation. I'm also the 1st to admit if I made a mistake. Hell I ban JPNod in like 2003 from my Renmasters server, later unban and apologized.
stop been retarded and unban him then, jesus christ
ehhh wrote on Thu, 24 October 2013 16:34 stop been retarded and unban him then, jesus christ Why dont you worry about the server u play on? Noone besides the Jelly FanCrowd bitches about other Servers. Take care of Jelly, there is enough shit that needs to be fixed first, then u can maybe make a nicely attempt to focus on helping another community.
whether the guy defended himself or not is irrelevant when you can honestly say he was wrongly banned - you really should remove it, even if he never tries to join your server again -TLS-DJ-EYE-K wrote on Thu, 24 October 2013 06:56 iRANian wrote on Thu, 24 October 2013 13:38 Neh they made about 50-70 screenshots of me before banning me. I know because their screenshots folder is public and someone told me about it. still got banned LOL Still mad ^ i'd probably be mad if i got banned from a server for cheating when i wasn't, especially when i went to great lengths to prove it, and that server's mods would later harass me about it anyways how fucked up is that?
If he was not a cheating mean lady, then he would not have that problem.
But how is he a cheating mean lady if its never been proven ever?
you're convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that Iran was cheating? did you not look at any of his fraps lol i think a lot of people would put up huge numbers like that if they were presented the same opportunities he has (or at least had at MPF, based on what he was having elsewhere)