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I played a fun 2v2 for the first time with Hitman against crush and mrhero. The dumbass public server reflexes just won't do for these CW type games and I got to, for the first time, experience a small sample of it. I was just following precise orders but holy shit the pace is so fucking fast that I actually felt some demoniac spirit get into my body and take control of my fingers and eyeballs lol! I was even using pistol more accurately that I normally would care to do lol. I have been playing since January 2007 and I thought I had seen all City_Flying can offer but holy shit! I was like some cyborg pilot lol all hooked into TS and my eyes and head glued to the monitor. I had NEVER played ANY computer game in my life with this much focus and awareness (still sucked lol). Hitman was Med/Havoc and I was Orca/Hotwire right side near Nod tib fighting mrhero's Light/Sak and I could not even look in one direction for too long as Hitman was telling me to watch out for crush's Apache trying to rush our PP. It was Hitman who spotted the Apache rushing while depite my best efforts, totally missed it...my situational awareness is shitty rubbish! This is some whole new level lol! It was so intense you would have to experience these things! I made this topic because until a few hours ago, I never understood WHY exactly it's impossible for a public player to be as talented as a CW-fellow. Not a chance in hell! So hopefully other public players can get some idea from what I found out tonight. It won't really matter how BADASS a public player is and if he really kicks some ass...he would still be a number 2 behind a CW player. I am basing all my opinions after seeing Hitman play. We played about three maps before SHTF and I had to leave but big sincere thanks to Hitman for the invite. Cheers to crush and mrhero too.
a cw player is going to do better in a smaller game setting than a public player however, not all cw players can do anything in public games they play too many small games and can't shake the mindset i'm glad your renecherry busted all over the floor though
LOL you have not experienced much yet lol Those were just some fun 2v2 matches where hero and I sing One Direction while we play. But you can definitely seen a new grasp of intensity because there is only 2 people and much more has to be done instantly without thought. It gets better. You just got a taste for it. Should find yourself a steady partner starbuzz if you want to keep playing and then it will be a lot more fun.
ehhh wrote on Thu, 20 September 2012 03:24 crush won a game? There's still hope!
I'm very happy for you, a whole new world of understanding ren is going to open up for you now First I have this: http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&th=39836&start=0&rid=2 6438 Then I also have this, if you want to get familiar with some of the tactics, a faceoff by some of the best cw players around. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ScfQt5OONw part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kxqshuZRI0 part 2
ehhh wrote on Thu, 20 September 2012 00:24 crush won a game? Just accept the fact that I am good. I don't need you to carry me like you did in the war against [Dragon] lol
wouldnt call that a comwar, was worse than a pubgame getting 2 mammys shooting tunnels to counter my sakura was pretty sad on field
liquidv2 wrote on Wed, 19 September 2012 20:58 not all cw players can do anything in public games they play too many small games and can't shake the mindset ... clanwars players are the best in A N Y situation, they understand the game more than anybody, i have been saying this for years (not talking about wannabe clanwar players who played like 20 games over a 5 year period) u probably see lots of former clanwars.cc players fuck around in public (like me) and u think they're playing at their best level, but its not even close lol there are so many people in jelly server that people can just afford to lack skill, there will always be an army behind him to back him up, in clanwars u dont have that, u got like 1 guy on your team, u gotta get your shit together and get the job done, not hope a fellow noob will come to save u public 10 people stank rushes require skill
Hitman wrote on Thu, 20 September 2012 17:26 ... clanwars players are the best in A N Y situation, they understand the game more than anybody, i have been saying this for years (not talking about wannabe clanwar players who played like 20 games over a 5 year period) u probably see lots of former clanwars.cc players fuck around in public (like me) and u think they're playing at their best level, but its not even close lol if they're so good, why do they get chewed up and spat out? they're too impatient they probably tried being good and couldn't transition to public play, so they gave up and started doing dumb shit instead i've seen plenty of clanwars players do well in public games, but to say that every clanwar player can and will own all those public noobs and be the best is incorrect you've been wrong for years, and i don't expect that to change anytime soon lol
have u ever played a clanwar? u learn more in 5 clanwars vs the best than u learn in 5 years of playing jelly marathon too impatient? lmfao, lets join jelly marathon, fight a unlimited amount of tanks/infantry for hours untill a genius comes up with the stank rush idea or starts a mass... u got no clue give me some examples of clanwar players who get "chewed up and spat out"? im really curious 50€ on u naming people who were never considered clanwar players in the first place ps: karmai doesnt count
wish i could play some clanwars but havent since like 2009
the dozens of clanwars people i've seen over the years didn't do so well in public servers you have a few that learn to play in it (yourself, Spoony, TilDeTh, Wrs, ZeLL, etc.), but the majority of them just kind of sucked or were average even simpee doesn't do much in big games lol they just kind of run around with ramjets a lot or try solo apc rushes or do nerdy things on their own that never works because there's more than 3 players on the other team if they have the capacity to do better it doesn't show seems too much of a coincidence to me
liquidv2 wrote on Thu, 20 September 2012 22:35 the dozens of clanwars people i've seen over the years didn't do so well in public servers you have a few that learn to play in it (yourself, Spoony, TilDeTh, Wrs, ZeLL, etc.), but the majority of them just kind of sucked or were average even simpee doesn't do much in big games lol they just kind of run around with ramjets a lot or try solo apc rushes or do nerdy things on their own that never works because there's more than 3 players on the other team if they have the capacity to do better it doesn't show seems too much of a coincidence to me Yeah you're right, clanwar players are fucking terrible. When the server is full, ask the players who they think the players are and post it on the forums, I'll tell you how many of them have a clanwar/funwar history.
Wouldn't say there get chewed out and the nerdy things do work sometimes, htmn did it a few week ago on canyon lol
i could probably pull of something nerd every game if i really cared, pretty funny that u think tildeth rapes all in pub and simpee is just average lmao simpee>tildeth x247 ps: liquid, i still dont see any names of people who supposedly suck in public, only of people who can prang all j00s
haha frozen would pull something nerdy off everygame yeah tildeth tanked every single game and dominated all the public server players, majority of the cw.cc guys could do that lol
neither tildeth or frozen were ever in a good clan, or actually considered good all around players, tildeth just played tons of 1v1's so he got good at dodging bullets with a tank, in the eyes of liquid that probably makes him the best player ever
Any team with a clanwar player that is actually bothering, playing from the start, has a 75% chance to win, no matter how many players (unless you've got like fucking 60+) Any team with two clanwar players that are actually bothering, playing from the start, not working together, 90% chance to win. Any team with two clanwar players that are actually bothering, playing from the start, working together, 95% to win. Any team with three clanwar players that are actually bothering, playing from the start, working together, 100% chance to win.
Hitman wrote on Fri, 21 September 2012 07:53 i could probably pull of something nerd every game if i really cared, pretty funny that u think tildeth rapes all in pub and simpee is just average lmao simpee>tildeth x247 TilDeTh did better than simpee in public games that's a fact; why are you arguing lmao you weren't even there and yet you're defending him like your life depends on it i'm sure simpee is better than TilDeTh at clanwars, but that fact didn't carry over into public games i can't remember every specific clanwars person that i saw get molested in public games over the years i've never seen Wiggles actually do well at anything, even in com wars and whatnot - i'm sure he's capable of more, but it didn't transition HeAT got mad because i kept raping him in Jelly 1 back in the day - he challenged me to a 1v1!!!! all the SoQ guys did alright, but they were pretty average overall Whiskey always seemed to lose pub games lol, trying or not trooprm02 did better than the average player, but i wouldn't call him good in all honesty, FinalRen (orca) did better than 4 out of 5 "good" clanwars people that made their way into public games he did things you never could (not saying you're bad HTMN) i like how MUDKIPS has magical stats - probably has proof to back them up too!
I've seen simpee and wiggles do well in public games. majority of soq were average, but around 5? or something were pretty goog not sure why you threw troop into there lol
maybe one day you will lose your real Virginity ?
i doubt troop was a very good clanwars player, but he did alright in public games better than i've seen wiggles do lol were these bigger games tristt, or smaller ones? the bigger the game, the less their clanwars conditioning actually helps them it seems all clanwars dudes used to rape on Jelly Mini when it was up call that a public server if you want, because it was it more suits their limited playing style
liquidv2 wrote on Fri, 21 September 2012 10:12 limited playing style fucking lmao
aow1, games floating between 10 and 40, so i can't remeber. but yeah, the bigger the game, the harder it's to make a impact.
Major-Payne wrote on Fri, 21 September 2012 13:05 liquidv2 wrote on Fri, 21 September 2012 10:12 limited playing style fucking lmao if they're the best ever, why did i shit on many of them over the years? i'm not a pro clanwars player, i'm just some regular public noob they excel 100% in small games, where they practice and have played for years the bigger the game, however, the less of an impact they actually make if clanwars players are the best ever, why has cw.cc lost community matches on multiple occasions?
havent there lost like 3-4 games total? lol not a bad win rate
Jelly has a similar win rate, if not better Jelly also has had far more non-clanwars players on it if clanwars players are the best at everything then how do you explain this?
from what i gather, cw.cc community war teams were terrible with teamwork, not a lot of them were willing to tech for example, Jelly on the other hand excels at that
liquidv2 wrote on Fri, 21 September 2012 12:09 Jelly has a similar win rate, if not better I am pretty sure simpee clear spoony hitman jamie i0ncloud and a bunch of cw guys have helped jelly in some comm matches over the years. Not to pick a fight just stating some facts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng5DxI4lQKA the majority on the jelly team are cw players lol
^ Every single clanwar ever played against Jelly, I never really considered being against jelly until recently, just a modified cw.cc team
Liquid, I would agree with you until I started playing 2v2 with crush against hitman and wiggles. I actually now believe them when they say they just fuck around in public servers. Not to talk shit about your skill, but how did you actually dominate these cw players? I've played pub games my whole renecareer and I do well myself, but after playing with hitman and wiggles I was COMPLETE shit. My individual skills was nothing compared to theirs. Pistol, tanking, flying, everything. I can't even put my head around the statement "cw players suck at public games". Everytime mudkips, rohirrim, and I are on the same team its pretty much an instant win lol. p.s i love baguettes
not gonna bother argueing with liquid lol cw players are better at every single aspect of the game, except for maybe tunnel sniping, but probably that aswell lol i dont see how they wouldnt take those skills and use em in public, its not like you're playing vs people who even understand this game
also: cw.cc would of easily won every commwar that ever came around, if every individual person involved tried their best, which was barely ever the case, still i dont think i ever lost a commwar while playing for clanwars, and i've played quite some
You do learn far more in clanwars than playing public servers. Every little 1v1 in a clanwars matters, whether its a pistol fight at the start or a tank battle, lose that 1v1 and your team is in the shit. In a public server that isn't really the case, I know you'll get the odd tech rush etc where 1 pistol fight makes a difference, but in the main if you kill 1 dude there's another right behind him. Someone who learns their skills in clanwars could adapt to public servers quicker than the opposite. You learn how to pistol, fly, tank, mine etc because it all matters. The skills you learn from learning to win all these little battles make a world of difference in a public server. You don't rely on having 3 techs on your arty, learning to to dodge and repair mid-battle is something the majority of pub players still can't do, yet it's second nature to a clanwar player. I've played both for as long as I can remember on this game, and I can say 100% the shit I learned playing in cw's made me a much better player than just playing public servers. I used to play both actively, so I got a balanced view of both facets of the game and what involved in each.
Hitman wrote on Fri, 21 September 2012 18:37 also: cw.cc would of easily won every commwar that ever came around, if every individual person involved tried their best, which was barely ever the case, still i dont think i ever lost a commwar while playing for clanwars, and i've played quite some I remember you getting a chemmer on complex in a commwar once and everyone on your team whining you were fucking about. Then you stopped an APC rush with it lol
What jelly said, especially with your tanking skills, shooting tanks that stay still 97% of the time won't improve your shooting.
playing public makes u worse if anything lol too many dumbasses that are just too easy to hit, u get used to it and when u play an experienced player, u'll be in trouble
Hitman wrote on Sat, 22 September 2012 05:34 playing public makes u worse if anything lol too many dumbasses that are just too easy to hit, u get used to it and when u play an experienced player, u'll be in trouble You also just learn not to bother as much in public since people do such boring and retarded shit like, camp certain spots, sbh all game, dont care about harv, block, and an unending list of stupid shit people do. Then you aren't on edge because people aren't constantly attacking you, and doing everything they can to kill you, you aren't as quick and you aren't as good. cw players aren't as good in public as in cw games, but they are STILL better than pub players. It's just not really worth the effort bothering when people are playing with the intent not to win the game, but with the intent just not to die.
STFU MUDKIPS CLANWAR PLAYERS SUCK CAUSE THEY HAVE A LIMITED VIEW ON RENNY, SO THEY NOT GOOG NUFF TO PLAY PUBLIC they play the best players to ever play this game, got more overall knowledge about the game than a public nod/gdi team combined, better tanking & infantry skill, way quicker thinking,but they can not do decent let alone good in a public server, where 30% of the people are under 12 years old(translates to tib sydneys,rocket troopers and chem warriors), 30% is sniping all game long, just sittin on that wall with no intention to progress in the game, 20% is SBH doing nothing all game long, or just plain AFK, and the other 20% is playing their best to win the game, but have absolutely no teamplay or good individual skill(no, i dont call saying "GET STANKS MEET BEHIND HON" actual teamplay) pretty sure that after you play clanwars on a high level, you'll think public is just a joke, and u dont even try to play serious anymore, along with nearly everybody in the server,that is why i dont think you have a clue on what you're argueing about, liquid... i been getting mvp*5 and so on 6+ years ago, pretty sure everybody who ever played abit of clanwars was at their peak easily as good as i was back then ps: i was/am better than orca, but sure enough, he was a better flyer than me, which is probably why i sniped in clanwars and was at one point probably the best AOW sniper to play
Hitman wrote on Sat, 22 September 2012 14:43 probably the best AOW sniper to play Hey man, wassabi best sniper!
mrhero101 wrote on Fri, 21 September 2012 20:16 Liquid, I would agree with you until I started playing 2v2 with crush against hitman and wiggles. I actually now believe them when they say they just fuck around in public servers. Not to talk shit about your skill, but how did you actually dominate these cw players? I've played pub games my whole renecareer and I do well myself, but after playing with hitman and wiggles I was COMPLETE shit. My individual skills was nothing compared to theirs. Pistol, tanking, flying, everything. I can't even put my head around the statement "cw players suck at public games". Everytime mudkips, rohirrim, and I are on the same team its pretty much an instant win lol. p.s i love baguettes i'm sure they'd crap all over me in a 2v2 for whatever reason, though, they didn't play as well in bigger games whatever they'd have, i'd kill it HTMN does well, but much of the time he's just doing silly stuff to make himself happy Jelly has always had clanwars players involved in it; the owner/creator was from clanwars.cc lol how is that argument valid? JELLY ONLY WON BECAUSE A FRACTION OF ITS TEAM PLAYED IN CLANWARS ALSO clanwars.cc (100% clanwars players) vs. Jelly (~50% clanwars players) if clanwars players are the best, why didn't clanwars.cc win every single com match ever? they've always had 100% of clanwars players on their teams the team with the most of the best players should win - why wasn't that the case? Hitman wrote on Fri, 21 September 2012 20:33 cw players are better at every single aspect of the game, except for maybe tunnel sniping, but probably that aswell lol i dont see how they wouldnt take those skills and use em in public, its not like you're playing vs people who even understand this game perhaps they are, but from what i've seen over the years it hasn't shown through i'm sorry if you disagree with that; it's just a plain and simple fact if it makes you feel better, the best player i've ever seen hands-down was a clanwars player Hitman wrote on Fri, 21 September 2012 20:37 also: cw.cc would of easily won every commwar that ever came around, if every individual person involved tried their best, which was barely ever the case, still i dont think i ever lost a commwar while playing for clanwars, and i've played quite some i'm sure clanwars, the most competitive people you'll find in this game, purposely fucked around when their name was at stake sure they just fucked around when {Os} shit on them cuz that's not embarrassing or anything lol Jellybe4n wrote on Sat, 22 September 2012 00:19 Someone who learns their skills in clanwars could adapt to public servers quicker than the opposite. You learn how to pistol, fly, tank, mine etc because it all matters. The skills you learn from learning to win all these little battles make a world of difference in a public server. You don't rely on having 3 techs on your arty, learning to to dodge and repair mid-battle is something the majority of pub players still can't do, yet it's second nature to a clanwar player. most definitely true i'm just surprised as to why these well-practiced players didn't come out on top all the time when the games weren't 3v3 or smaller Hitman wrote on Sat, 22 September 2012 07:34 playing public makes u worse if anything lol too many dumbasses that are just too easy to hit, u get used to it and when u play an experienced player, u'll be in trouble not a bad point that's part of what added to my confusion and surprise, seeing these highly trained rene-pros unable to dominate or clean house Hitman wrote on Sat, 22 September 2012 08:43 CLANWAR PLAYERS SUCK CAUSE THEY HAVE A LIMITED VIEW ON RENNY, SO THEY NOT GOOG NUFF TO PLAY PUBLIC it seems i've struck a nerve i'm not doubting that clanwars players are good at what they do i just find it hard to believe that every single one of them (aside from a handful) were able to be considered some of the best in public games Spoony, who you might think sucks at clanwars compared to some other players, did far, far better in public games than 95% of clanwars players explain that one, sir ANGRYMN47 i think, as far as renehistory is concerned, orca is or will be remembered as being better than you (HTMN) not saying you suck or anything like that
liquidv2 wrote on Sat, 22 September 2012 21:40 Spoony, who you might think sucks at clanwars compared to some other players, did far, far better in public games than 95% of clanwars players Spoony is the only one who actually cared about every game he played even in a public server. I know that for a fact, that is why he did better than all the others. He tried to coach everyone to play, get meds and shit all the time.
liquid, put in a win % counter on jelly and compare the cw players win % to other players win % or are you too afraid to be proven wrong?
if that includes all the smurf nicks you use under which you lose games, that would be around 20% for you i guess
well there is no win % counter so i can't be bothered and chem all game
i was thinking about an incident that happened a few days ago but that turned out to be mrmom
liquidv2 wrote on Sat, 22 September 2012 21:40 i think, as far as renehistory is concerned, orca is or will be remembered as being better than you (HTMN) "HTMN does well, but much of the time he's just doing silly stuff to make himself happy" but even then, even his best cw friend ioncloud said he thinks im better, i could do ALOT better in public, maybe now u can jumpstart me into trying my best in public but i doubt i'll play serious for more than 5 games in a row, it gets boring really fast public is just a clusterfuck of bad players, therefor not a single one of those guys could ever win a clanwar, because they just dont know what to do, they want to be backed up by alot of retards who also dont know how to do, have no desire for teamplay, and generally just have very very poor skills in both infantry and tanks, but since they have so many noobs rolling out shooting quite randomly, there are so many bullets flying out there that it actually does work lol anyways, an example of what generally happens when i play serious in public: its impossible to have the exact impact on pub as u have on a clanwar, in pub you randomly join the game, there's more than likely 7 double teched arties/ an army of meds and havocs/pic's out there, no teamplay on any team( arty teching/stank rush is the best teamwork a pub player is capable of) so how on earth is anyone gonna kill 7 double teched arties when he's pretty much on his own in a completly uncoordinated team? you'll have to hotwire rush through a tunnel or so, but it'll be filled with atleast 5 sbh/mobiuses/gunners/... and 5 snipers, pretty much impossible to get through, aswell, still there are some ways that you can get the job done, but you have to be resourceful and just seize every chance you get to make the difference as an individual so your benchmarks for making just as much of an impact in public as in a clanwar, are quite impossible to meet in a fair amount of the situations ps: thx for iran for providing this piece of public screenshot material, which illustrates just how poorly public is organised, if organised at all lol how can u even take shit like this serious, liquid? like i said its a clusterfuck of 50 barely average renegade players thrown into a map that is by far too small for 50 players to play on
Major-Payne wrote on Sun, 23 September 2012 01:47 liquid, put in a win % counter on jelly and compare the cw players win % to other players win % or are you too afraid to be proven wrong? i don't know how to code; feel free to do it yourself i have no problem with being proven wrong - perhaps you're projecting your own fear onto me at what point did you think i said clanwars players aren't as good as public players? go back and find it
liquidv2 wrote on Fri, 21 September 2012 11:53 if they're the best ever, why did i shit on many of them over the years? i'm not a pro clanwars player, i'm just some regular public noob they excel 100% in small games, where they practice and have played for years the bigger the game, however, the less of an impact they actually make if clanwars players are the best ever, why has cw.cc lost community matches on multiple occasions? god damn you faggot you type almost as much as spoony, takes so much time to find shit
Hitman wrote on Sun, 23 September 2012 10:09 public is just a clusterfuck of bad players, therefor not a single one of those guys could ever win a clanwar, sorry; i wasn't aware that the only thing that counts in Renegade is clanwars which seems rather silly, considering the game is designed for 16vs16 ask i0n if there's any chance on earth of you outflying orca Hitman wrote on Sun, 23 September 2012 10:09 anyways, an example of what generally happens when i play serious in public: well played it seems your team had a few more players that were actually trying that game, but you clearly did more than any of them Hitman wrote on Sun, 23 September 2012 10:09 its impossible to have the exact impact on pub as u have on a clanwar, in pub you randomly join the game, there's more than likely 7 double teched arties/ an army of meds and havocs/pic's out there, no teamplay on any team( arty teching/stank rush is the best teamwork a pub player is capable of) so how on earth is anyone gonna kill 7 double teched arties when he's pretty much on his own in a completly uncoordinated team? you'll have to hotwire rush through a tunnel or so, but it'll be filled with atleast 5 sbh/mobiuses/gunners/... and 5 snipers, pretty much impossible to get through, aswell, still there are some ways that you can get the job done, but you have to be resourceful and just seize every chance you get to make the difference as an individual of course a 2v2 is different than a larger game; why on earth would you expect them to work the same way? you say it's impossible, and yet Spoony could do it are you saying he's better than you? just because 3v3 or 2v2 tactics don't work doesn't mean a better player won't win more often just because it's harder doesn't mean a good player can't fight through it or find a way around it sometimes you can't, but is that a reason to dodge it altogether? i'm sure the best players do not Hitman wrote on Sun, 23 September 2012 10:09 so your benchmarks for making just as much of an impact in public as in a clanwar, are quite impossible to meet in a fair amount of the situations the way i see it, the best players will win more than other players they'll find a way to win through it if your argument is true, which states that clanwars players are so good that they can't handle a game size bigger than a 3v3 because they're too impatient, then that seems to work against them players like Got2bRoni probably win more bigger games than a lot of your favorite 2v2 people ever could, which means he's better than they are at public games Hitman wrote on Sun, 23 September 2012 10:09 ps: thx for iran for providing this piece of public screenshot material, which illustrates just how poorly public is organised, if organised at all lol how can u even take shit like this serious, liquid? like i said its a clusterfuck of 50 barely average renegade players thrown into a map that is by far too small for 50 players to play on i think a good player, in the long run, would be better at turning those kinds of games into a win for example, i joined a Walls_Flying game the other day when Nod was down 2 players most of Nod was running around with basic infantry because it couldn't afford anything GDI had killed the harv and was swarming the base with early APCs (literally, like 4 of them came in) i destroyed two of them myself and saved two buildings by killing the people that got inside before they could get remotes off after that i got an arty and warded off the med tanks and hotwires sneaking all over the place had i not been there, GDI would have won that game in less than 10 minutes to say that one player makes no difference is foolish, at best in the long run the stats will prove otherwise (unless you want to argue with both myself and MUDKIPS about that)
I joined that walls game for Nod light/tech then light/rav and well the signature proves the rest
HTMN once spelled j00 wrong and got banned from Jelly for racism back before i got the all-racist-comments-equal-a-permaban rule changed lol
I don't find it offenseive. Its like if aircraftkiller called everyone "nugz" Could mean chicken nuggets. j00s could be like juice.
hitman typed "prang jew" when he was new to Jelly in 2007 or something one of the less intelligent past Jelly admins banned him for racism hitman explained repeatedly that he meant "j00" which means "you" and not "jew" as in a jewish person that mod didn't listen or care, and kept him banned for months lol
but for the record, if ACK says anything that sounds even remotely racist, that's exactly how he meant it though he's clever and can always fall back on "IT'S NOT RACIST LOL" i can't blame him, since he lives in a fucking trash can
if my team isn't really going to teamplay (NEVER will happen in pub) or play at their best level(tunnel snipe, 24/7 sbh/...), im very likely not to go all out in trying to beat the enemy, because the match on itself is just stupid and pretty much pointless, imo its not even close to an actual all out competitive game of renegade as to how it should be played, which is pretty much the sum up of what clanwars is all about (talking any number of players in the clanwar here, not just 2v2's or 3v3's) and im pretty sure i already said orca was definatly a better flyer than me, that is why i was a sniper in clanwars, and had someone else fly instead of me EDIT: " but sure enough, he was a better flyer than me, which is probably why i sniped in clanwars" i'd say we can organise a game to get this settled but im quite afraid there are very few clanwar players left
liquidv2 wrote on Sun, 23 September 2012 11:03 hitman typed "prang jew" when he was new to Jelly in 2007 or something one of the less intelligent past Jelly admins banned him for racism hitman explained repeatedly that he meant "j00" which means "you" and not "jew" as in a jewish person that mod didn't listen or care, and kept him banned for months lol ... i know the jelly mod staff is overall pretty crappy, and never there when u need em, kinda like cops i suppose,but its an online game, i dont expect people to sit on mIRC all day long so if a mod bans me now for "dont like the way you use tanks", and you think the ban is ridiculous, you're not gonna go and delete it, because it was another mods call to ban me? nais
Hitman wrote on Sun, 23 September 2012 14:48 so if a mod bans me now for "dont like the way you use tanks", and you think the ban is ridiculous, you're not gonna go and delete it, because it was another mods call to ban me? nais what the fuck are you talking about LOL
im talking about how you guys appearantly moderate your servers
on about if someone gets banned for a stupid reason, it can't be overturned by another mod wasn't difficult to see that lol
it can be overturned, they just choose not to, which is why i think its ridiculous if liquid was thinking the same way about my ban back then(i remember differently actually), im sure he could of just lifted it, since it was a ban that was completly uncalled for
Hitman wrote on Sun, 23 September 2012 15:41 it can be overturned, they just choose not to, which is why i think its ridiculous if liquid was thinking the same way about my ban back then(i remember differently actually), im sure he could of just lifted it, since it was a ban that was completly uncalled for ...except liquid was most certainly not even close to an admin in 2007 LOL make less sense To be clear, as a senior mod, if a full mod bans you for "I don't like the way you use your tank," yes, I'm going to remove the ban, because that's fucking stupid. But full mods (or half or trial) cannot remove other moderator's bans, because that's not their job and it tends to get people pissed at each other over stupid shit. I seriously don't know what the fuck it is that you're rambling about, though. I assume the "admin" from 2007 was hammerh0? seems like one of the idiots that would have done such a thing
Hitman wrote on Sun, 23 September 2012 14:35 if my team isn't really going to teamplay (NEVER will happen in pub) or play at their best level(tunnel snipe, 24/7 sbh/...), im very likely not to go all out in trying to beat the enemy, because the match on itself is just stupid and pretty much pointless, imo its not even close to an actual all out competitive game of renegade as to how it should be played, which is pretty much the sum up of what clanwars is all about (talking any number of players in the clanwar here, not just 2v2's or 3v3's) so because not everyone is trying their hardest you're not going to try at all? sounds like a winning attitude! the way i see it, the best players will do whatever they can to win, whether it looks likely or not, and whether their teammates are good or bad over a long-term period, the best players would win more games that's why MUDKIPS wants a win tracker so badly for Jelly Marathon Hitman wrote on Sun, 23 September 2012 14:35 i'd say we can organise a game to get this settled but im quite afraid there are very few clanwar players left that would prove what exactly? it makes about as much sense as you challenging me to a 1v1 to prove me wrong in some way
Hitman wrote on Sun, 23 September 2012 14:48 i know the jelly mod staff is overall pretty crappy, and never there when u need em, kinda like cops i suppose,but its an online game, i dont expect people to sit on mIRC all day long so if a mod bans me now for "dont like the way you use tanks", and you think the ban is ridiculous, you're not gonna go and delete it, because it was another mods call to ban me?nais not sure if you realize this, but i wasn't a mod way back then also, the guy that was is no longer a mod (i'm one of the ones that removed him) the rules in place back then said that any racism whatsoever earned the player a permanent ban (i'm the one that had that rule changed, also before i became a mod) no one way back at that time felt the need to overrule that admin's decision do you honestly think something like that would happen now? lol
liquidv2 wrote on Sun, 23 September 2012 20:58 that's why MUDKIPS wants a win tracker for Jelly Marathon I just love having it set in stone that I'm the best
Major-Payne wrote on Sun, 23 September 2012 22:23 I just love having it set in stone that I'm the best I'd rather you just be stoned! =p
well I personally don't try often in marathon (for example getting a tank) because it isn't a challenge at all, when the majority of people in the tanks can't aim that well and just stay still 95% of the time. That's why I've sniped since I came back, I find it more fun and an actual challenge. I'm sure cw.cc players find it the same
I tank snipers then i look at forums and see people say nothing can kill a ramjet and im like
shit, i also had MVP*2 like htmn on jelly marathon!
could of posted some mvp*5's and so on from 6 years ago, if that would impress you!
its impossible for me to get past MVP*3 I inevitably end up bored. Either I win and I spend all my time killing shit, but I can't move up and kill buildings because the team is too fucktarded to follow, or I defend and keep killing shit but can't move out because the team is too fucktarded to follow. So after two or three times of this i get a chem and try to kill a building for lulz
fuck mvp, how about winstreak in large games? i had 100+ at one point in non00bs liquid's right btw, it can be done and a lot of the cw "pros" are not good enough to do it, as good as they may be at other stuff. i'd also suggest you pick one of the two arguments you seem to rely on, either "it can't be done" or "i don't do it because i don't care enough to try"; pick one, don't use both at the same time
I had the 3rd best win ratio on aow1 woo
in some situations, it cant be done, most of the time it can but requires quite some rene effort, and generally i cant be fucked, cause i hardly consider public a competitive game, i have explained why before, sure enough every player that was ever considered good(poison, me,spoony,...) on clanwars, would have a giant impact on public server(if he went all out, offcourse) pretty tired of this discussion, but i can tell you the average clanwar player definatly does better by quite alot, than the average public player, in any game type (public or cw) ps: u know alot of stuff for someone who doesn't even really play this game, and when u did u got raped and complained everytime lol
I pretty much argue'd what liquid just mentioned in the yesnomayb topic 6 months ago!
appshot wrote on Wed, 26 September 2012 20:50 I pretty much argue'd what liquid just mentioned in the yesnomayb topic 6 months ago! Who didnt! And it all turned out to be a waste of time in the end
Hitman wrote on Wed, 26 September 2012 08:27 ps: u know alot of stuff for someone who doesn't even really play this game, and when u did u got raped and complained everytime lol Me?
offcourse, i was talking to liquid u should know better spoonman
"I can't disprove you, but if I say you suck at Renegade I don't have to!" i've played this game once or twice the most annoying HTMN-related thing i can remember was him get a deadeye as Complex started and running up top and headshotting every Nod tech as they ran to their arties no one even tried stopping him (aside from me), and by the time i finally killed him and someone on Nod actually got into a vehicle the rest of GDI was in the base with a legion of meds and apcs do you remember when you and bluel4bel were playing 24/7 and playing clanwars like crazy and you forced me to 2v2 you with some random guy? do you remember when you lost to me on Mesa as GDI? if i'm terrible, what does that make you?
remember when hitman lost to trashu....twice
we all can have a bad rene day if i start losing, or get annoyed, i'll play quite alot worse than i normally do in a cw or even in public as i have said many many times before, i never 1v1, played like 10 in my entire renegade career, im sure anyone got quite a chance to win vs me lol, it nearly all comes down to spawns and maybe the first tank fight, after that its pretty much a done deal, the one who kills the first harv wins, again basically decided by spawns lol, which is basically illustrating why lots of 'random' clanwar players won a 1v1 tournament at one point, i think even karmai made it into the finals on one of those lol glad to hear the most annoying thing about me is that on complex i basically win the game for my teams because i render all their tanks useless, and waste their creds, giving them free way to run in, u trying to help me here? am i better than spoony @ 1v1 when i let him get 400 off in my base, sit in his base with shooter, let him buy flamer, and kill him as he runs for it? i dont think so... just illustrating how gay 1v1's can be but anyways, you're right, i am terrible, that's probably why i have been in (just about) every top 5 clan to ever play the game ps: congrats on winning 1 game vs me in your entire renecareer
iRANian wrote on Thu, 27 September 2012 11:48 remember when hitman lost to trashu....twice $ dont forget to mention these were my first funwars in quite a long time played him canyon and field lol, canyon i was all over him, he finally killed my med after killing strip, saw him chase me with a raveshaw, just bought a mammy and he rolled in and stole it, sheer ignorance, if i took 1v1's 100% serious i would of killed his rave first, not even thinking about buying mammy, got into the mammy and kill the rest of his base... i was just bored as fuck and crush wanted to play, on field he somehow had 260 points from killing harv with c4's, and 1 clip of nades... didnt even notice the server gave 2/3 creds a sec, so i roll up my arty to mid field, as i cross the bridge in middle crush is right there with a med, he killed me, then i pretty much left
I do hate 1v1 Hitman could easily have won. We were fucking around a lot. The matches don't mean anything.
Hitman wrote on Thu, 27 September 2012 12:02 am i better than spoony @ 1v1 when i let him get 400 off in my base, sit in his base with shooter, let him buy flamer, and kill him as he runs for it? i dont think so... just illustrating how gay 1v1's can be why lie, hitman? that was a 2v1 and you know it. you were gdi wallsfly in a 2v1. gdi wallsfly in a 1v1 is almost an automatic win, so it would be fucking embarrassing for you if you didn't win a 2v1 no matter how good your opponent, and it shows a massive insecurity on your part that you even mention that game to try to make any point at all.
Spoony wrote on Thu, 27 September 2012 14:58 Hitman wrote on Thu, 27 September 2012 12:02 am i better than spoony @ 1v1 when i let him get 400 off in my base, sit in his base with shooter, let him buy flamer, and kill him as he runs for it? i dont think so... just illustrating how gay 1v1's can be why lie, hitman? that was a 2v1 and you know it. you were gdi wallsfly in a 2v1. gdi wallsfly in a 1v1 is almost an automatic win, so it would be fucking embarrassing for you if you didn't win a 2v1 no matter how good your opponent, and it shows a massive insecurity on your part that you even mention that game to try to make any point at all. lol? uhhh i stole your flamer, u had no money left im pretty sure, i killed your pp or ref or something, pretty sure it ended right there, even if somebody was on my team (dont recall), he obviously didnt stop you from getting off 400, which is the maximum you can get with a engineer, regardless if u think walls fly is an automatic win, i didnt do it the way u would expect that win, i just chilled at your strip, waiting for you to buy a vehicle, killed you and stole it, like i said already, rather sure the game was done right there, 2nd player on team or not. i was only giving an example as to why i think 1v1's are stupid ps: if anything it was a 2v2, just looked at the score and neither of our team's score adds up entirely, but it doesn't really make a difference, game was over when i stole flamer
Hitman wrote on Thu, 27 September 2012 14:02 glad to hear the most annoying thing about me is that on complex i basically win the game for my teams because i render all their tanks useless, and waste their creds, giving them free way to run in, u trying to help me here? it's one game that i remembered like i've said before, you are capable of doing well i've seen you do it Hitman wrote on Thu, 27 September 2012 14:02 but anyways, you're right, i am terrible, that's probably why i have been in (just about) every top 5 clan to ever play the game ps: congrats on winning 1 game vs me in your entire renecareer that was one of the few 2v2s i've ever played, and i'm sure you had played hundreds (if not thousands) by then thanks bro!!!!!111 at what point have i said you're a bad player? i think you're one of the best players i've seen around far better than i am, at least at most things anyways does it bother you that Spoony agreed with what i said?
ok not trying to start anything but who is tristt/ehh .. i remember seeing him like twice before i quit renegade in like 10 and now hes talking like hes been around since the beginning of renetime .. and i just saw him be bad in pubs like three times on his tristt name lol
Jesse wrote on Thu, 27 September 2012 18:29 ok not trying to start anything but who is tristt/ehh .. i remember seeing him like twice before i quit renegade in like 10 and now hes talking like hes been around since the beginning of renetime .. and i just saw him be bad in pubs like three times on his tristt name lol lololololol