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"camping" "camper" let's clear this issue once and for all
OK, I am sick and disgusted of being called a "camper" and "camping" when I am DEFENDING MY BASE. I am only talking about Renegade here. So from what I understand, camping is when a player usually sits in one area with a big weapon or a vehicle making it harder and nearly impossible for the enemy team to pass thru. Sure that gets annoying after a while but does anyone think that such a fellow is not being useful to the team? Say you try to sneak into the Nod ref on Volcano only to find a arty hiding near the tunnel kill you. -didn't that arty just do something useful for the enemy team even though it could be elsewhere? It doesn't matter what you think because anything you say against that arty player is instantly voided by the above point. PERIOD. to those who employ the word "camper" or "camping" I think you greedy bashers should admit the obvious and move on. Just like the word "pointwhore" which is used to demonise players who are doing a useful thing, the word "camping" and "camper" I believe is used by those uptight players that are greatly inconvenienced by it. And nearly everyone is guilty of accusing others of it while refusing to acknowledge that the real reason for their frustration is the nature of a bunkered down enemy who is making life difficult for them. Just remember, when you accuse someone of "camping" you are only saying what a unthinking individual you are. I bet the vast majority of people who use the word won't mind a "camper" or two in their own team. There are several ways to win the game: 1)base destruction 2)ped beacon 3)pointslead at game end it is completely accepted and well within Renegade gaming norms to increase pointslead or keep the pointslead while keeping the rats out of the base and winning that way. Absolutely legit and there is no defense against it. Anyone who disagrees is a blowhard.
Re: "camping" "camper" let's clear this issue once and for all
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdqIpYhM6PE&t=1m51s
Useful or not is a term used to describe what your doing, if every time you camped I yelled "DEFENDER" will that make you happy or you gonna make another post on how you dont like that word either. If your willing to go towards such extremes over being called a camper you need a hobby in your life. Quote: I don't mind at all being called a "camper."
you really have nothing to yell about. that's what I am getting at and you have yet to prove what I am doing wrong. We won the game in one of the three ways Westwood intended. Like it or not. call me some more names and way to take quotes randomly out of context! edit: and I like how you know so much about my life. good job
there's also the server crash and mass ragequit way
Well clearly you have no life if your making multiple topics in multile forums because someone called you a camper. As I stated in the other forum, camping is waiting for an attack so you can stop it. Defending is stopping an attack, seeing as you had your LT camped at the tunnel entrance WAITING for us to rush you are camping. Its simple if you can only win a game camping tanks and adv soldiers when your fighting free inf you should go try pacman or something. As for what your doing wrong, is nothing, I never said you did anything, however I did say it was pathetic which im sure you already know that. As for quotes you cant say I like the color green in one message than say you hate the color green and not have anyone notice. Its completely in context of taking away your creditibility in the conversation. Clearly you dont even know what your mad about. Quote: OK, I am sick and disgusted of being called a "camper" and "camping Quote: I don't mind at all being called a "camper." You wrote them both in the same subject compelely in-context
Quote: Well clearly you have no life A spurious claim - there is no way to objectively call out whether or not he has a "life" because he posted on forums. Quote: Its simple if you can only win a game camping tanks and adv soldiers when your fighting free inf you should go try pacman or something. Whose standards are we judging this by? Yours? Seeing how you have difficulty understanding the point of the game (Attack/defend/win at all costs) and are limiting yourself by playing by a set of rules that Starbuzz obviously does not follow, you are simply setting yourself up to be a whiny scrub and should learn how to play. /Also, you were born in 1984 but you graduated from high school in 2010? //Somehow it isn't that unbelievable considering how many elementary punctuation errors are in every one of your posts.
Sorry ack I dont have an english major so I cant type things up to your standards. Nor do I care tbh, I have no one to impress here. (Under the circumstances I obtain it, you will be the first to see me in action ) And yes they are by my standards because he is directing the post at me. As for when I was born I dotn see where you got 1984 but it was 1991. I also am sure star is a big boy and can handle answering for himself so not sure what your intentions are in this topic.
I'm not asking you to be an English major. It wouldn't hurt, though, considering people like me paid for you to go to school. The least you could do is show that you learned something while you were there; I'd appreciate a refund if you aren't interested in using what you learned. My intentions are to be a dick to you because you're being a dick to Starbuzz. It's patently obvious. Regarding your date of birth: c0vert7's profile Date Of Birth: December 07, 1984 MSN Messenger: cody_g_07@hotmail.com Shit, Tyrone, get it together.
c0vert7 wrote on Sat, 26 May 2012 17:17 Well clearly you have no life if your making multiple topics in multile forums because someone called you a camper. you will notice that I never create topics such as these but I felt the severe abuse and unjustified attacks by you merited publicity. That's why I started the topics and I have a strong case while you have none. c0vert7 wrote on Sat, 26 May 2012 17:17 As I stated in the other forum, camping is waiting for an attack so you can stop it. Defending is stopping an attack, seeing as you had your LT camped at the tunnel entrance WAITING for us to rush you are camping. Its simple if you can only win a game camping tanks and adv soldiers when your fighting free inf you should go try pacman or something. You will lie so much will you? You make it seem that this magical Light Tank of Starbuzz was waiting the whole game with techs and Saks at the Nod entrance. I was all over the place, hitting Ref (which you now admit at NS forums that I did), donating to a player so he can get Rocket Officer to hit Ref and increase pointslead, etc etc and falling back to supporting my team with Light. Do you just want me to get my Light killed so you can have a nice time getting the victory? Not! c0vert7 wrote on Sat, 26 May 2012 17:17 As for what your doing wrong, is nothing, I never said you did anything, however I did say it was pathetic which im sure you already know that. that's it then. You have no case. you only used the words "camper" and "camping" because we outplayed you and held on to our points. You hate me now for doing that. You have yet to explain how my actions with the Light Tank are not legitimate and not appropriate for Renegade. This is all coming down to "sour grapes." As AK puts it, by not wanting to concede you are wrong, you are setting yourself up to rant on endlessly. c0vert7 wrote on Sat, 26 May 2012 17:31 I also am sure star is a big boy and can handle answering for himself so not sure what your intentions are in this topic. when Nune joined the next game, he too could clearly see thru your lies and "sour grapes" to which you said in the chat that I was getting people to help me. so sad
c0vert7 wrote on Sat, 26 May 2012 22:31 blah blah. CzeroVert... stfu!
I dont understand why you think I am here to proove a point to starbuzz I am here because you dragged me into here on n00bstories to try and explain to you I dont give a shit what you type here, as ive said before and here again im going to tell you what I think of you no matter who you are, I always have and always will, I do it ingame and in life im an all around asshole to anyone any everyone. If you think im going to turn over a new leaf for you, your dead wrong, no matter how many people you need to post in front of to try and back you up. In all reality your just making it easier for me cause now I know im getting under your skin.
c0vert7 wrote on Sat, 26 May 2012 19:12 I dont understand why you think I am here to proove a point to starbuzz I am here because you dragged me into here on n00bstories to try and explain to you I dont give a shit what you type here, as ive said before and here again im going to tell you what I think of you no matter who you are, I always have and always will, I do it ingame and in life im an all around asshole to anyone any everyone. If you think im going to turn over a new leaf for you, your dead wrong, no matter how many people you need to post in front of to try and back you up. In all reality your just making it easier for me cause now I know im getting under your skin. Speaking from experience, I think if you read this post again several years from now, you'll probably facepalm and ask yourself - "How could I write something so stupid?" Especially this part - c0vert7 wrote on Sat, 26 May 2012 19:12 as ive said before and here again im going to tell you what I think of you no matter who you are, I always have and always will, I do it ingame and in life im an all around asshole to anyone any everyone. If you think im going to turn over a new leaf for you, your dead wrong, no matter how many people you need to post in front of to try and back you up. In all reality your just making it easier for me cause now I know im getting under your skin. It really isn't worthy of an intelligent reply. Just think before you write things.
c0vert7 wrote on Sat, 26 May 2012 22:12 I dont understand why you think I am here to proove a point to starbuzz I am here because you dragged me into here on n00bstories to try and explain to you I dont give a shit what you type here, as ive said before and here again im going to tell you what I think of you no matter who you are, I always have and always will, I do it ingame and in life im an all around asshole to anyone any everyone. If you think im going to turn over a new leaf for you, your dead wrong, no matter how many people you need to post in front of to try and back you up. In all reality your just making it easier for me cause now I know im getting under your skin. *don't *prove *Starbuzz *don't *I've *in-game *I'm *and *I'm *I'm /Dipshit
c0vert7 wrote on Sat, 26 May 2012 22:12 I dont understand why you think I am here to proove a point to starbuzz I am here because you dragged me into here on n00bstories to try and explain to you I dont give a shit what you type here, as ive said before and here again im going to tell you what I think of you no matter who you are, I always have and always will, I do it ingame and in life im an all around asshole to anyone any everyone. If you think im going to turn over a new leaf for you, your dead wrong, no matter how many people you need to post in front of to try and back you up. In all reality your just making it easier for me cause now I know im getting under your skin. oh my... with this low level of a arrogant murderous statement, and not at all addressing the points I raised in this thread and at the thread at NS, the issue is closed on this footing: -you have not explained why exactly my in-game actions are wrong -you have been proven wrong as to what really happened in-game and hence found to be lying. -it is now clear that your ragefest in-game yesterday night has nothing to do with any sort of strategy or a better way of doing things but, as abundantly demonstrated by the disusting post quoted above, this is a matter of ego-centrism, loathing, and sour grapes towards another player. Thanks c0vert, I learned a lot about you! You do know that I am a very light-hearted individual don't you? To think you are getting under my skin...oh my; you are not fooling anyone. I didn't do this cos of some misplaced rage but to prove something (which I have done pending you disproving it) and as a bonus, with that sick post quoted above, everyone knows more about you also. Just remember what a big pipe of hot air you are blowing on next time you call someone a "camper" or use the word "camping." You should consider reading the article Aircraftkiller linked to above. good night.
So... I win?
c0vert7 wrote on Sat, 26 May 2012 22:12 I dont give a shit what you type here Yes, you do. It's the reason why you keep responding to this thread. Make a good decision for once in your miserable existence and stop responding. You're not endearing yourself to anyone.
So I still win right?
No, you lost. That's why you whined to Starbuzz about "camping" because you're too much of a scrub to win in such an incredibly easy game.
Aircraftkiller wrote on Sat, 26 May 2012 21:25 On the other hand, you really can't "camp" in Renegade. It's different in other games such as CoD, BF, where you can kind of "camp" the flag, bomb, corners, etc. But, that could also be classified as defending. In Renegade, you have an ENTIRE base to defend. You can't even really camp the entire base by yourself; you're constantly checking buildings to see where people are. But, badkids will be badkikds and whenever people complain or bitch about camping in Renegade, I just assume they're retarded, or a COD kid.
c0vert7 wrote on Sat, 26 May 2012 21:05 your only intentions here are to troll...
Why does this topic even exist? Your team won, Starbuzz and c0vert's lost. If his team can't counter 'camping' then why complain? Topic should be LOLC0VERT'SBAD@REN. :/
Yo ACK
DJ.
-TLS-DJ-EYE-K wrote on Sun, 27 May 2012 21:08 Yo ACK AK
Aircraftkiller wrote on Sat, 26 May 2012 17:24 limiting yourself by playing by a set of rules that Starbuzz obviously does not follow, you are simply setting yourself up to be a whiny scrub and should learn how to play. I read that article a few years ago. It sounds dramatic, but it didn't just change how I play, it changed my life.
reborn wrote on Mon, 28 May 2012 02:57 Aircraftkiller wrote on Sat, 26 May 2012 17:24 limiting yourself by playing by a set of rules that Starbuzz obviously does not follow, you are simply setting yourself up to be a whiny scrub and should learn how to play. I read that article a few years ago. It sounds dramatic, but it didn't just change how I play, it changed my life. Aye, friend. This takes me back to a time where I was working as a physiotherapist at a hospital in Germany during World War II, back in 1997. This particular ward I was assigned to dealt with poor chaps who could not walk due to ailments such as broken legs, cerebral pausy, ingesting 3 bottles of whiskey and the like. On this particular day, the patients were coming in thick and fast. The sky was a menacing black colour that gave illustration to the morbid song of clanging surgical utensils and franticly given orders. A fresh patient arrived. While getting up to make a coffee, he stubbed his toe on a couch. The doctor reluctantly glanced at his family and said "I'm sorry, he won't make it". Just before they turned his life support off, I shouted "WAIT, I can save him!" I reached into my briefcase, and pulled out 3927 copies ofPlaying to Win, by Sirlin.net, flung them in front of the 38M Diamter industrial fan and ran out of the ward waving my arms around like a Windmill and making Zoidberg noises. The propagation of a curious sound emerged, and I slowed my run. Was it hailing? I looked up to the dark sky once more, but no hail was to be seen. The sound grew louder, and louder. It was like the sound of metal clanging against a stone path. I turned around, and so it was. I stood there, frozen in bewilderment. Hundreds of patients running towards me, their metal leg braces disintegrating and falling to the ground mid flight. I gazed at the sky once more; sunlight pierced through the once dark veil of clouds, and a rainbow most likely created by nyan cat spanned the width of the horizon. It was then I realised they were my Forest Gump's, and I was their Patch Adams. It sounds dramatic, but it didn't just change how I play, it changed my life.
Go complain more about Volt Rifles and their range Gohax
-TLS-DJ-EYE-K wrote on Mon, 28 May 2012 07:50
-TLS-DJ-EYE-K wrote on Mon, 28 May 2012 04:50 Go complain more about Volt Rifles and their range Gohax Seriously, you have to be lol. Or, you're one for drama? That wasn't "complaining" and in no way, shape, or form does it look so. Liquid had changes to the server that he proposed, and asked for anything else the players wanted. I proposed a change in the range of Volts. There wasn't even any argument lol. God, I'm losing hope in humanity.
c0vert7 sucks at Renegade; don't worry about it Starbuzz i've noticed that, no matter what a player does, they can be criticized by idiots for it winning by points = pointwhoring being successful with an arty = arty whoring being successful in a mammy = mammy whoring successfully defending = camping killing the harv = harv whoring successfully winning by ped = ped noob etc. this is also the same c0vert7 that used r-g-h and lied about it; don't waste your time arguing with a past cheater why is DJ trying to tell ACK (sorry, i will forever associate those letters with Aircraftkiller) anything about anything? he's not on the same mental level, nor does he have a legitimate argument or a reason to butt in and yet he won't hesitate to accuse me of doing the same, even though i'm right and he's wrong there are stupid people in every game; Renegade has never been an exception and on the topic of volt auto rifles - why shouldn't they get a range increase? in order for them to do damage to infantry they are just about within pistol range in order for them to damage an enemy vehicle they have to be dangerously close while exposing themselves for prolonged periods of time if the driver of the vehicle isn't a complete, helpless idiot then the Mobius or Mendoza is in serious danger and yet they cost the same as a PIC, rav, havoc, or sakura figure that shit out; giving them a range bonus just makes sense, if you care about making them worth their cost maybe DJ doesn't give a fuck about them because he can't invisihug with them
liquidv2 wrote on Mon, 28 May 2012 22:59 maybe DJ doesn't give a fuck about them because he can't invisihug with them U can, maybe instead of lurking into Forums and try to act like a Bad-Boy u should play this Game more often, u are loosing the contact to the Player Base.
i've been called a pointwhore while just shooting tanks with a light tank or arty all game millions of times before, it's great
-TLS-DJ-EYE-K wrote on Mon, 28 May 2012 16:33 liquidv2 wrote on Mon, 28 May 2012 22:59 maybe DJ doesn't give a fuck about them because he can't invisihug with them U can, maybe instead of lurking into Forums and try to act like a Bad-Boy u should play this Game more often, u are loosing the contact to the Player Base. be sure to read and comprehend the rest of my post liquidv2 wrote on Mon, 28 May 2012 15:59 why is DJ trying to tell ACK (sorry, i will forever associate those letters with Aircraftkiller) anything about anything? he's not on the same mental level, nor does he have a legitimate argument or a reason to butt in and yet he won't hesitate to accuse me of doing the same, even though i'm right and he's wrong
-TLS-DJ-EYE-K wrote on Mon, 28 May 2012 14:33 liquidv2 wrote on Mon, 28 May 2012 22:59 maybe DJ doesn't give a fuck about them because he can't invisihug with them U can, maybe instead of lurking into Forums and try to act like a Bad-Boy u should play this Game more often, u are loosing the contact to the Player Base. Considering half of Renegade's playerbase is composed of colossal idiots these days, losing touch with that constituency isn't such a bad thing.
just cause jelly bans u for *cheat name removed*doesnt mean you use RGH, typical misconception.
wasn't on jelly, but ok
snpr1101 wrote on Mon, 28 May 2012 06:50 reborn wrote on Mon, 28 May 2012 02:57 Aircraftkiller wrote on Sat, 26 May 2012 17:24 limiting yourself by playing by a set of rules that Starbuzz obviously does not follow, you are simply setting yourself up to be a whiny scrub and should learn how to play. I read that article a few years ago. It sounds dramatic, but it didn't just change how I play, it changed my life. Aye, friend. This takes me back to a time where I was working as a physiotherapist at a hospital in Germany during World War II, back in 1997. This particular ward I was assigned to dealt with poor chaps who could not walk due to ailments such as broken legs, cerebral pausy, ingesting 3 bottles of whiskey and the like. On this particular day, the patients were coming in thick and fast. The sky was a menacing black colour that gave illustration to the morbid song of clanging surgical utensils and franticly given orders. A fresh patient arrived. While getting up to make a coffee, he stubbed his toe on a couch. The doctor reluctantly glanced at his family and said "I'm sorry, he won't make it". Just before they turned his life support off, I shouted "WAIT, I can save him!" I reached into my briefcase, and pulled out 3927 copies ofPlaying to Win, by Sirlin.net, flung them in front of the 38M Diamter industrial fan and ran out of the ward waving my arms around like a Windmill and making Zoidberg noises. The propagation of a curious sound emerged, and I slowed my run. Was it hailing? I looked up to the dark sky once more, but no hail was to be seen. The sound grew louder, and louder. It was like the sound of metal clanging against a stone path. I turned around, and so it was. I stood there, frozen in bewilderment. Hundreds of patients running towards me, their metal leg braces disintegrating and falling to the ground mid flight. I gazed at the sky once more; sunlight pierced through the once dark veil of clouds, and a rainbow most likely created by nyan cat spanned the width of the horizon. It was then I realised they were my Forest Gump's, and I was their Patch Adams. It sounds dramatic, but it didn't just change how I play, it changed my life. That was so fucking funny, it bought a tear to me eye with laughter.
Well jelly is the only server im banned in for *cheat name removed*because I lagged killed anthrax, was a very cotroversial ban with no proof beyond the word of spoony. Apparently he has indepth knowledge with ISP, and regardless the words of people who actually work in the field its not possible but thats ok I find marathon uninteresting and beyond the rare occasions when jelly is only server full I have very little interest of going in. Thats usually the time of popping in the RA2 disc or something of equal interest.
why are you still lying about that? you were banned from jelly cos you cheated a bunch of times and lied about it for months... and now years later you're still lying about it on multiple forums
thanks for the note, liquid. And oh wow this guy was a cheater too.
It's the same thing regardless of where you do it, you're sitting in one spot preventing people from going from point A to B, whether B is your base or somewhere else doesn't make you any less of a camper. Solution: Go on the offensive, they won't even get to your base if you're raping them somewhere else.
so regarding this topic, the issue cannot be cleared instead, my advice to you is this: when a player accuses you of either "camping", "whoring", or anything along those lines, you reply with
But what if you're actually losing?
then you camp and whore harder!
liquidv2 wrote on Tue, 29 May 2012 09:47 so regarding this topic, the issue cannot be cleared instead, my advice to you is this: when a player accuses you of either "camping", "whoring", or anything along those lines, you reply with This just won the topic.
how do i post that picture in-game?
Gohax wrote on Wed, 30 May 2012 11:07 liquidv2 wrote on Tue, 29 May 2012 09:47 so regarding this topic, the issue cannot be cleared instead, my advice to you is this: when a player accuses you of either "camping", "whoring", or anything along those lines, you reply with This just won the topic. I just lost The Game.
liquidv2 wrote on Mon, 28 May 2012 16:59 and on the topic of volt auto rifles - why shouldn't they get a range increase? in order for them to do damage to infantry they are just about within pistol range in order for them to damage an enemy vehicle they have to be dangerously close while exposing themselves for prolonged periods of time if the driver of the vehicle isn't a complete, helpless idiot then the Mobius or Mendoza is in serious danger and yet they cost the same as a PIC, rav, havoc, or sakura figure that shit out; giving them a range bonus just makes sense, if you care about making them worth their cost Suppose the range was increased for them, I think they can have more "say" in the field but they already do and they have to get a bit closer...for example, helping the sieging team on Under and Field near the base entrances. I wonder what WW was thinking when they made those three top-tier characters. Hav/Sak and PIC/Rave's roles are quiet simple. Was the Volt then just a beefed-up general purpose "nuisance flusher?" Maybe a nice weapon to use against both infantry and vehicles with a range limitation albeit with supreme speedy damage. I was thinking what would happen if Volts were given PIC range...tunnels would become crowded, and the small stock maps would be a Volt kill-zone lol. Maybe a lower cost seems a better idea? How about 800 credits? btw, didn't Spoony adjust the pricing of some chars? I have to find that post of his. edit: found it: Spoony wrote on Tue, 10 January 2012 11:37 CHEAPER INFANTRY I've taken it upon myself to tweak the costs of most of the infantry. I feel most of them ought to be cheaper than they are. As follows: GDI/Nod Officer: 50 Tib Sydney: 50 Rocket Officer: 150 Patch: 200 Laser Chaingunner: 250 Deadeye/Black Hand Sniper: 400 Mobius/Mendoza: 600 PIC Sydney/Raveshaw: 800 Havoc/Sakura: 800 Usual prices for Chem Warrior, Gunner, Stealth Black Hand and Hotwire/Technician. 600 credits!!! While this was for CW, it would be good to try this in a public servers for a weekend maybe? Maybe Jelly or n00bstories.
Gohax wrote on Wed, 30 May 2012 14:07 liquidv2 wrote on Tue, 29 May 2012 09:47 so regarding this topic, the issue cannot be cleared instead, my advice to you is this: when a player accuses you of either "camping", "whoring", or anything along those lines, you reply with This just won the topic. I will be using this in-game.
Tbh, on maps like Field and Under, Volts would still be at a disadvantage. They aren't going to be able to shoot across the map, so snipers can still easily pick them off. They're still going to be difficult to use if the other team has a few snipers on it, but they won't be basically useless like they (almost) are now.
They only seem to be useful when you're defending from a stank rush.
ehhh wrote on Sun, 03 June 2012 08:13 They only seem to be useful when you're defending from a stank rush. Yeah, sadly :/ I see Mobius used, somewhat, frequently. I rarely ever see Mendozas being used, though. And whenever I do choose to use them, I usually end up getting ganged by a group of snipers :/