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Joejjj80 - The worst moderator in the entire world
i've been playing in noobstories for a while and i can safely i'm ashamed to be even sharing the same oxygen as this old fart. in the space of 2 games he kicks nearly half a server and mutes the rest. he is about as useful as a fart in a spacesuit. when approaching him about people being racist in server he make it out like it's an absolute chore to even read a screenshot. he mutes me on a regular basis for either defending myself such as said example Joejjj80: you are so stupid when i looked up your name in the dictionary your face was there iTaLy: There are no pictures in dictionaries iTaLy has been muted. I have no doubt that this man both has anger issues and was probably abused as a child. he takes out his bullying on others and this post is just to bring up the point so it might be taken seriously on a public level, rather than being shunned on the n00bstories forum. yours sincerely, iTaLy
Re: Joejjj80 - The worst moderator in the entire world
even Azazel is better or even Kenny Dalglish
that's weird, i've never been muted by joejonas80, he seems like a really nice guy ;s
i like him he pushes people and then kicks or mutes them, i love it when he does that
he abuses his powers way too much and it is disgraceful to the point of idiotic
He used to be a great guy before he was a mod Now he's Jarhead II
yeah this joejjj guy has issues... (dont ban me now joe, please)
http://www.n00bstories.com/n00bfiles/view/7076/?PHPSESSID=909snd3h9judfppi9m814l t2q6 lol I did a n00bfile on him a while ago.
It's really a shame that someone as awesome, level-headed, and hard-working as joe has to be subjected to such trolling, and then publicly bashed for doing his job and taking out the trash. I've gotten the low-down on what you guys pulled on the server and I think you should be ashamed of yourselves for acting like such childish little brats. Joe doesn't deserved to be bashed here, or anywhere.
i've heard nothing but bad things about both jarhead and this joejjj guy; i have yet to meet either of them in Renegade
Jarhead's been fine while i've played at ns, joe on the other hand likes to get involved in arguments and as soon as you make a joke, he mutes you lol...
he has to have the last word and if you say any cuss word at him or not even at him if you just type out "FUCK" when you get killed or something and joj is in game it equals an auto 24 hour kick or a mute then he wont unmute you ever. And when you rejoin he will just 24 hour ban you for evading this guy has some serious mental issues. ohh and yeah he is allowed to cuss at you and call you a lot of bad stuff but your not to him. Edit: he even starts arguments with some players and when they are right about something he automatically kicks them.
forcerg'd me (WHO USES RG?????) for shooting him in the head as he ran through a tunnel in a straight line i can see why he's not the most liked moderator lol, i suppose he's not that bad in your opinion crimson since you want your server moderated and this guy does one hell of a job making a mosquito into an elephant when it comes to drama
SMELLLY CATTTTTTTTTT SMELLLLLY CAT, IT'S NOT YOUR FAULTTTTTT
well Crimson as a player who in the last few weeks has: . organized community wars for your people . help set up servers for your comm war team . a person with vast moderating experience . been courteous to most in the server my opinions will be heard. You have not been around recently. of course you are going to take his side, he moderates (well that's very debatable) your server and i understand that. you don't see the bad sides of what he does, just the bad sides of what i and others do. He muted me for a week recently for defending myself in an argument he started with someone else. i used no swear words, nothing like that just straight up honest defending. Furthermore after muting me, Joe makes the biggest deal possible out of it and get on his high horse and makes a big 10 minute speech in the chat box about how good his decision was. But no when i get racially abused in private messages and show him the evidence he doesn't care or show the slightest bit of interest in helping. i understand you are probably in denial and think that just because your server is up 10 years (congratulations btw) that it's perfect. This however is not the case. I am by no means trolling, if i was you would know. i deliberately came on here to post this rather than getting shot down on your forums by a punch of people who are just going to back up Joe. This is more public and you can see by the feedback stated that i am not the only one who feels the same way. i'm sure you will just continue to ignore it and let us all suffer with Joe, but at least this post got your attention and there are respected people here in the renegade community backing me up Also the fact you refer to me as thrash is very debatable. You don't know me and i could be anyone, look at both sides before you go on your escapades. and you call Joe level headed? i have never met a man with a shorter temper or as little care as Joe yours sincerely, iTaLy
Crimson wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 07:21 It's really a shame that someone as awesome, level-headed, and hard-working as joe has to be subjected to such trolling, and then publicly bashed for doing his job and taking out the trash. I've gotten the low-down on what you guys pulled on the server and I think you should be ashamed of yourselves for acting like such childish little brats. Joe doesn't deserved to be bashed here, or anywhere. Having observed what has gone on and not gotten involved, I'd still say that Joe isn't a very good moderator. He's far from polite and seems to start ranting to himself at some points, and when one person told him to stop talking and play the game he kicked him. I'd say that is far from level-headed..wouldn't you? Also a side comment, most of the bad comments in here are not from the people you criticise. Or are you ignoring those?
I don't see the problem with calling him joe jonas and asking him for credits due to the money he gets from album sales.
liquidv2 wrote on Wed, 16 May 2012 23:50 i've heard nothing but bad things about both jarhead and this joejjj guy; i have yet to meet either of them in Renegade The likes of you that have never even played with him have can't really comment on the way he moderates you only have a third hand account, so butt out. He's a fine moderator and I've never seen him go over the top at all. Everyone that's "broken the rules" got what they deserved fully.
Hitman wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 06:22 forcerg'd me (WHO USES RG?????) for shooting him in the head as he ran through a tunnel in a straight line i can see why he's not the most liked moderator lol, i suppose he's not that bad in your opinion crimson since you want your server moderated and this guy does one hell of a job making a mosquito into an elephant when it comes to drama think you'll find mosquitos rack up a much higher human death toll than elephants could ever dream of
Everyone who has posted in this topic has played in ns azazelbot, liquid only said he 'heard' as well, which is true.
i didn't say anything either way goat boy; read my post again the fact that Azazel supports the guy honestly makes me think less of him, and again i have yet to meet him
while we're still on the topic: anyone that cheats as a moderator really has a worthless opinion when it comes to the topic of moderating if anything you're the example of what not to do Azazel your beliefs and values must be quite strong - or perhaps they rhyme with "triggerbot" i hope they don't actually let you play at n00bstories
Azazel wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 17:09 liquidv2 wrote on Wed, 16 May 2012 23:50 i've heard nothing but bad things about both jarhead and this joejjj guy; i have yet to meet either of them in Renegade The likes of you that have never even played with him have can't really comment on the way he moderates you only have a third hand account, so butt out. He's a fine moderator and I've never seen him go over the top at all. Everyone that's "broken the rules" got what they deserved fully. You speak like Kenny Dalglish over Luis Suarez..
Tiesto wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 10:00 Azazel wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 17:09 liquidv2 wrote on Wed, 16 May 2012 23:50 i've heard nothing but bad things about both jarhead and this joejjj guy; i have yet to meet either of them in Renegade The likes of you that have never even played with him have can't really comment on the way he moderates you only have a third hand account, so butt out. He's a fine moderator and I've never seen him go over the top at all. Everyone that's "broken the rules" got what they deserved fully. You speak like Kenny Dalglish over Luis Suarez.. I agree completely with his decision regarding Suarez. As do most Liverpool fans. Liquid, go pump yourself full of steroids seeing as that's the only way you can make yourself feel good.
he's very hard to work with this joe what he does is push people and provoke them into defending themselves. when they do defend that's when he hits them right in the face with a nice mute or kick. not everyone on the internet has a thick skin and naturally people defend themselves and get into arguments when insulted. i am sick of this terrible person creating a bad atmosphere in the server and terrorizing others this way. i have been on the internet long enough to know all kinds of people and how to deal with each kind. sadly not many can say this as most people the joe bans are young and innocent guys just playing the game after a rotten day at school and generally new to the internet. the best way to deal with the likes of this joe is to totally ignore and just focus on the game. it sucks because i like the server. i just play play play and don't bother with the drama joe dishes out. but I can't help the feeling that i am in some sort of dictatorship when playing because you never know that the most innocent thing you might say or even a joke could backfire on you with joe. crimson, is that the sort of atmosphere you want your players to be in? i am not talking about those regulars who established their names in the server but to the massive numbers of people that populate the server each day in their free time? btw, this is not my real account. i dare not use my main account. imagine how joe would look at me next time i am in server? to him now i am another silent player (cos i ignore his manipulation) and i like it to be that way. <--- says a lot about the nature of joe doesn't it? the need to use a smurf account to testify against him to avoid repercussions while playing a ten year old game? Crimson wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 02:21 It's really a shame that someone as awesome, level-headed, and hard-working as joe has to be subjected to such trolling, and then publicly bashed for doing his job and taking out the trash. I've gotten the low-down on what you guys pulled on the server and I think you should be ashamed of yourselves for acting like such childish little brats. Joe doesn't deserved to be bashed here, or anywhere. if there's any shame in this thread it's your 3 sentence pack of lies quoted above. a disgraceful pack of lies statement like this that reads like it came from Xinhua isn't gonna work this time around. the ignoring of the charges, lies and coverups are no longer going to silence those who have borne the brunt of this person's unjustifed attacks. the guy PROVOKES people into fighting him. does that not make anyyy sense to you? there's a big difference between getting a "low-down" by reading logs or talking with your mod on teamspeak versus actually playing the game and being the target of his provocation. i think just like the jarhead issue you will probably lock or delete this thread and ban anyone who complains more. this will not work anymore. doesn't bother me in the least as i mentioned before i know how to deal with this kind of individual. but not everyone can censor themselves and strip their own humanity away and turn themselves into a robot like i do to play in your server. sad part is i like gameplay conditions in your server. very much. will you actually listen to the people who are raising a legitimate concern of your mod's behavior or will you post another Xinhua post? will you actually keep in mind that i have to use my smurf account here to post these comments about your moderator since i fear the retaliation of him when i am ingame next time? or does such mind-numbing tyranny mean nothing to you? raising concerns about someone who should not be let anywhere near the reins of power = bashing to you? I do agree that those who have posted in this thread have used language that is not appropriate (regarding which I will address to them below) but these are based on the behavior of joe ingame and not some fantasy. i plead you to reconsider. Azazel wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 12:09 liquidv2 wrote on Wed, 16 May 2012 23:50 i've heard nothing but bad things about both jarhead and this joejjj guy; i have yet to meet either of them in Renegade The likes of you that have never even played with him have can't really comment on the way he moderates you only have a third hand account, so butt out. He's a fine moderator and I've never seen him go over the top at all. Everyone that's "broken the rules" got what they deserved fully. listen there disgraced fallen angel, why don't you stop posting? nothing you do or say will erase your criminal history nor will you get anywhere near the reins of power anymore. i hope. like it or not i got a firsthand account of this joe and have seen him maneuver, manipulate, and provoke innocent players to boil them up to a point of rage just to mute and kick them. this issue will only be settled after the truth will be acknowledged by the NS PTB. or they can choose to ban and delete this thread. on behalf of those he abused and demoralized, i will no longer be silent in this issue. ____________________ as advice to people who have borne the brunt of tyranny from joe including the topic starter, i suggest to tone down the language, eliminate ad hominem completely, remove all crude pictures and to make your statements and present your arguments using decent to-the-point posts. a passionate, clean, and pure line of reasoning will be required to fight this type of injustice. so please first get started on editing your posts and clean-up, please. if we use standards of decency in this debate, it will be difficult for the NS establishment to ignore you or brand you as "bashers" bear in mind that this is not something against NS or the outstanding server facilities provided to us to enjoy our free time but against the internal corruption of one of the mods and false, immoral Xinhua-type lies being announced by NS to cover it up. in summary, this situation has arisen because: -NS moderator Joejjj80 has been for years used cruel manipulation to maneuver unaware and unsuspecting players and provoke them into a fight so they can be muted or kicked. -a calm smooth peaceful server environment is turned to warfare and strife because of the aforementioned actions of NS moderator Joejjj80. -the situation is no longer bearable as players all across enjoy the NS server and its outstanding facilities, gameplay conditions, gameplay settings, and that such enjoyment is being corrupted by the tyrannical provoking activities of NS moderator Joejjj80.
i'd feel pretty good about myself too if i'd have a body like liquidv2
You guys have been baiting each other for weeks now. You guys by acting retarded, Joe by doing the stuff Duck used to do in Atomix, as a mod. Renegade needs an ignore function for ingame.
Azazel wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 18:46 Tiesto wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 10:00 Azazel wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 17:09 liquidv2 wrote on Wed, 16 May 2012 23:50 i've heard nothing but bad things about both jarhead and this joejjj guy; i have yet to meet either of them in Renegade The likes of you that have never even played with him have can't really comment on the way he moderates you only have a third hand account, so butt out. He's a fine moderator and I've never seen him go over the top at all. Everyone that's "broken the rules" got what they deserved fully. You speak like Kenny Dalglish over Luis Suarez.. I agree completely with his decision regarding Suarez. As do most Liverpool fans. Liquid, go pump yourself full of steroids seeing as that's the only way you can make yourself feel good. Ah, but the rest of the world aside from liverpool doesn't agree. Pretty much like no one on renegade agrees with you.
posting this on behalf of someone who doesn't wanna be identified...... Okay I have been playing for a while and I am a very honest player when it comes to things. Joe as a moderator is not needed. I honestly do not know why he chooses to be one when he knows he is going to get into fights. He lives for this stuff. Joe does provoke people into these fights. He always has to have the last say in it. I see it all the time in game. Yes I admit maybe some people are deserving of it and they do start it first. That is only because they either know Joe will come after them or because they are idiots. In saying that, it is always a problem with Joe. There is a trend. Every complaint or issue in n00bstories relates to Joe. The man is just always where the action is at, and he loves it. He loves showing his power and he loves being a dick. There are times in games when he says he is leaving. Then he continues a fight with someone for the next 10 minutes. Half the time the fights are amongst other people and are not even related to him|. He wants people to bow down to him and say that Joe is right and they are wrong and that he is so such a good mod because he is a hard ass. Mods do not need to be hard asses. Joe says all the time in game, if you are going to be an ass to me, at least stick to it and don't go soft. The thing is Joe, that they can't be a tough guy when you mute or kick them. And for the record, not everyone that talks to you is a "tweener." Like honestly enough with that bull shit. I don't know why you continue to be a mod or play renegade when you are so stressed from work that you want to take it out on others. If you were well liked in the server, there would not be so many problems. You are not that good of a player either. You accuse and kick so many people for cheating because they kill you. You are always a terrible sakura or mammoth camper. Most of the time you are a useless sakura, especially in games when tanks are needed. You have no concept for the game at all. Sure you can have fun and snipe but then you bitch to others to do something useful. Anyway back on track here. Below are lists of a bunch of forum post on the n00bstories site all pertaining to Joe. Most of them are recent. Like I said before, maybe some of those people are at fault, but Joe handles the situation terribly and shows his power along with being a jerk getting the last word. The sad thing is all the mods will back him up and praise how tough he is when it is complete bull shit. They are just afraid to lose their power and be looked down upon in the server. You guys are all at fault and just admit it please. We all know every time Joe is in the server a problem happens. It is a game!! Let people have some fun and have some smack talk. This is not a prison damn it. Sure some control must be initiated but give the people their own fights. The second he jumps into a fight it goes on for the whole fucking map. If Joe would have stayed out of it then the fight would have ended long ago. n00bstories mods and admins please consider. Just let the guy go. I am sure Joe would love to change his name and just play as a regular player who keeps his mouth shut and does not have to mod his "tweeners." He personally makes it his agenda to get involved in people's business to find out their true motives. JUST PLAY THE GAME! http://www.n00bstories.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&th=15058&start=0&r id=11776 http://www.n00bstories.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&th=15032&start=0&r id=11776 http://www.n00bstories.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&th=14906&start=0&r id=11776 http://www.n00bstories.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&th=14901&start=0&r id=11776 http://www.n00bstories.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&th=14860&start=0&r id=11776 http://www.n00bstories.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&th=14659&start=0&r id=11776 http://www.n00bstories.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&th=14460&start=0&r id=11776 http://www.n00bstories.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&th=14224&start=0&r id=11776
What better way to spend your day after a day of school than reading renegade drama topics on teh interwebz?
Spoony wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 09:22 Hitman wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 06:22 forcerg'd me (WHO USES RG?????) for shooting him in the head as he ran through a tunnel in a straight line i can see why he's not the most liked moderator lol, i suppose he's not that bad in your opinion crimson since you want your server moderated and this guy does one hell of a job making a mosquito into an elephant when it comes to drama think you'll find mosquitos rack up a much higher human death toll than elephants could ever dream of NOT DIRECTLY LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
They dream but then the mosquito bites wake them up , tough life being an elephant.
shaitan wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 14:39 Renegade needs an ignore function for ingame. Uhhh there is one. No one uses it.
Xpert wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 19:37 shaitan wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 14:39 Renegade needs an ignore function for ingame. Uhhh there is one. No one uses it. What do you mean, is there an actual setup for that?
shaitan wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 19:10 Xpert wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 19:37 shaitan wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 14:39 Renegade needs an ignore function for ingame. Uhhh there is one. No one uses it. What do you mean, is there an actual setup for that? Yeah, but it's really convoluted to get into, as it's only in Advanced Game Listings (unless it works in the GSA menu, which I've never tried). click for instruction screenshots
players shouldn't have to use an Ignore function to avoid abuse by a moderator lol i've never used steroids goat boy and my malnourished 17 year old little brother could kick your ass
You think that's steriods, Shadow? Shit, I wonder if everyone over in England is small.
Azazel wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 09:09 liquidv2 wrote on Wed, 16 May 2012 23:50 i've heard nothing but bad things about both jarhead and this joejjj guy; i have yet to meet either of them in Renegade The likes of you that have never even played with him have can't really comment on the way he moderates you only have a third hand account, so butt out. He's a fine moderator and I've never seen him go over the top at all. Everyone that's "broken the rules" got what they deserved fully. Look Azazel, people may value your opinion on things such as homosexuality and suicide, since you have thoroughly explored both fields, but when it comes to the topic of moderating, we don't care what you say. You are a waste of space.
The game's ignore function doesn't work on GSA players, probably also not on XWIS players.
iRANian wrote on Fri, 18 May 2012 00:57 The game's ignore function doesn't work on GSA players, probably also not on XWIS players. It works on XWIS last time I checked.
I have no problem with people who talk shit in an online game, I find it quite amusing and will talk shit back. Its fun and when your hand and air or vice versa are dead. There is really nothing better to do in Ren. I think it sucks that he talks shit back then mutes when his intellect gets overcome by others. Which it will a lot...
Is this all this forums is good for is bashing people ? but I do agree with iTaly here muting somebody for that is complete bullshit maybe you Admins over at noobstories should do your jobs and start getting people that can do the job correctly and not just go round kicking/muting people for the fun of it. This is one of the reasons why I quit coming here lol its fucking full KIDS who just cry 24/7 and cause DRAMA(IRAN) my advice just fucking move on and grow up. Regards, Tiny.
Tiny wrote on Fri, 18 May 2012 06:18 Is this all this forums is good for is bashing people ? but I do agree with iTaly here muting somebody for that is complete bullshit maybe you Admins over at noobstories should do your jobs and start getting people that can do the job correctly and not just go round kicking/muting people for the fun of it. This is one of the reasons why I quit coming here lol its fucking full KIDS who just cry 24/7 and cause DRAMA(IRAN) my advice just fucking move on and grow up. Regards, Tiny. How's st0rm?
Azazel wrote on Fri, 18 May 2012 09:16 Tiny wrote on Fri, 18 May 2012 06:18 <Insert a bunch of stuff here> How's st0rm? Ouch. AzazelBot just kicked your ass.
Azazel wrote on Fri, 18 May 2012 16:16 Tiny wrote on Fri, 18 May 2012 06:18 Is this all this forums is good for is bashing people ? but I do agree with iTaly here muting somebody for that is complete bullshit maybe you Admins over at noobstories should do your jobs and start getting people that can do the job correctly and not just go round kicking/muting people for the fun of it. This is one of the reasons why I quit coming here lol its fucking full KIDS who just cry 24/7 and cause DRAMA(IRAN) my advice just fucking move on and grow up. Regards, Tiny. How's st0rm? lol..deflecting onto Storm while avoiding all the posts aimed at you...well done.
luv2pb, jarhead and joejjj. the worst trio of mods/admins left in the game. something that is blindingly obvious (to someone who doesn't even play in ns anymore) and crimson is still turning a blind eye to it all.
i almost think NS runs their community for their moderators and not the players it's like a large playground, and the mods run around and hit the other kids with baseball bats then they are defended and the kids told to shut up it's all ok though, cuz at one point many years ago one of them was a Marine
i don't want to be an asshole, but are you still paying all of Wilo's bills Tiny?
liquidv2 wrote on Fri, 18 May 2012 12:58 i want to be an asshole, but are you still playing with Wilo's balls Tiny?
Tiny wrote on Fri, 18 May 2012 09:18 maybe you Admins over at noobstories should do your jobs and start getting people that can do the job correctly and not just go round kicking/muting people for the fun of it. They must be doing something right since they're alive, and st0rm is dead. Tiny wrote on Fri, 18 May 2012 09:18 This is one of the reasons why I quit coming here lol its fucking full KIDS who just cry 24/7 and cause DRAMA(IRAN) my advice just fucking move on and grow up. But yet you came here to make this post with a lot of grammatical errors.
the people of Renegade, in this topic, are bringing a protected issue to light a moderator on one of the servers seems to be abusive and unfair to players; what is wrong about addressing such an issue? another thing happening in this topic is people pointing out that a known cheater/moderator trying to talk about good moderating is really quite silly there's something wrong with either of these things? if anything it shows the people of Renegade still have the right idea about how things should run which, coincidentally, does not involve flooding other servers and stalking under-aged girls
wow st0rm is pretty dead, even this forum gets more activity lol
Funny how this kind of behaviour from the admin staff was the cause of the exodus breakoff, which was reason for crimson to ban me from renforums then jarhead banned me simply because i pointed out, when i was a mod at n00bstories, that he abused his commands a lot (and everybody agreed) then when i complained about it here, i got banned again And now I see threads about joejj (who is a good guy but really shouldn't be a mod) and jarhead pop up almost every month. Dare I say: lol.
Just play at Jelly if you want to avoid people like jarhead/joe.
I don't care you guys can bash me all you want I'm not some little kid that goes and posts threads about people abusing them and Azazel for all I care you can die in a fire with aids that's how much I care. And as for bashing St0rm you guys make me laugh you all went running to crimson about Wilo attacking jelly and all ganged up on him but when it happened to st0rm and he asked for help you all turned your back on him and just let the attacks happen and it happened for a good few months the UDP and odd DDoS attack here and there but things you should know there is other people at St0rm that can do far worst than what Wilo did to jelly. How was XWIS last month anyway. Just something for you to think about.
why are you posting at all? we've left you be why is it so hard for you to do the same?
Tiny wrote on Fri, 18 May 2012 17:46 And as for bashing St0rm you guys make me laugh you all went running to crimson about Wilo attacking jelly and all ganged up on him but when it happened to st0rm and he asked for help you all turned your back on him You probably don't have access to the server owners section. People did reply, but there is little to nothing that could be done considering no one knew who was doing it. To top it all off, he was bringing down his own servers while he was attacking others as a cover up. Links to patches and WOLproxy was given. And if I recall, when I looked at the WOLproxy st0rm was running, it was nothing more than a relay. It did absolutely nothing lol. Tiny wrote on Fri, 18 May 2012 17:46 there is other people at St0rm that can do far worst than what Wilo did to jelly. How was XWIS last month anyway. Just something for you to think about. Most of us already know who it was. Does it matter? Are you trying to tell us there are people on the internet that are better than Wilo? Oh my, this is new to me Tiny, tell us again why you're posting on this topic if you ummm "don't care" about this place? You seem to care enough to post here. You talk as if you don't act like a child yourself. You seem to not have any free will of your own if I last recall. I mean, after you found out Wilo uses you for nothing more than just money, you still continued to be his lapdog and suck on his dick for quite some time. This topic was made to shed some light on someone that moderates for NS, in this case, Joe on his abusive style of moderating. If you "don't care" about the matter, then simply don't post in this topic. Unless you wanted some attention, in this case, you got it.
i still think you're a spineless idiot for choosing Wilo over st0rm Renegade
Xpert wrote on Fri, 18 May 2012 14:42 But yet you came here to make this post with a lot of grammatical errors. You just missed the massive run-on sentence he posted.
What else was so bad about Azazel's moderation besides the fact that he used a triggerbot? Did he have any moderation skills? Forgive me, as I don't know Azazel that well.
you should have seen how much he trash-talked cheaters and cheating in general if and when he thought a player was cheating he would harass them endlessly he also sucked up immensely hard to anyone above him in power can't say anything about his in-game conduct; i didn't play in NS much when Azazel was a mod ask angel6 (rohirrim) about Azazel if you want a history lesson
He's doing fine as a moderator I've never had many with him so far, I know the rules and you should have known them by now to. If you had any real problem, it's with the rules. Part of the rules also include respect for the moderators, I'm willing to bet you had a giant swear spree with him cause you got mad at something YOU did which he responded to correctly by using his moderating powers. So learn the rules, show some respect and move on.
might i suggest reading the rest of the topic
I'd rather not, I'm trying to get this message across instead of DELIBERATELY posting in it blindly like some people here...
shiiiiit i should start playing some renegade here and there
TankClash wrote on Fri, 18 May 2012 20:23 I'd rather not, I'm trying to get this message across instead of DELIBERATELY posting in it blindly like some people here... aren't you describing what you're doing right now?
Where did Tiny come from? Just felt like pissing in the wind some more? Azazel is fucking gay
tankclash why are only like 5% of your posts on-topic or useful
Firstly Ethenal and liquid, i love you guys more than Tiesto loves milking cats <3 Secondly, i don't give two fucks about st0rm. Never have, never will (as much as i love reading the beef and feel free to continue). TankClash, i respect your opinion greatly but you are not seeing it from both sides of the spectrum. i am generally polite in game and never attempt to make any issues with folks in game. I am not just defending myself from this abuse but defending others who are seeing this abuse first hand too. If you read the replies in the topic you will see that the majority of replies back me up on my claims. ~iTaLy
Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 18 May 2012 16:10 Xpert wrote on Fri, 18 May 2012 14:42 But yet you came here to make this post with a lot of grammatical errors. You just missed the massive run-on sentence he posted. I didn't LOL. You should start "grading" his posts. I'd find that very humorous. Anyway, I went into NS to play. Found that joe was ingame. Only thing I had about him was the fact that people would complain to him about cheating, and instead of handling it, (me in this case) he would just tell them to post on the forums. Someone complained about me with SBH reveal or some shit, and he just told the guy that he was playing and I was using 4.0; if he had problems to post on forums. iTaLy wrote on Sat, 19 May 2012 00:11 Firstly Ethenal and liquid, i love you guys more than Tiesto loves milking cats <3 Secondly, i don't give two fucks about st0rm. Never have, never will (as much as i love reading the beef and feel free to continue). TankClash, i respect your opinion greatly but you are not seeing it from both sides of the spectrum. i am generally polite in game and never attempt to make any issues with folks in game. I am not just defending myself from this abuse but defending others who are seeing this abuse first hand too. If you read the replies in the topic you will see that the majority of replies back me up on my claims. ~iTaLy Still remember "the incident" with st0rm. I loved that shit lol. Now, with what went down with st0rm, I can't help but to lmao.
i actually don't know what happened more recently with St0rm, i've only been around again recently, but from what i heard SHIT WENT DOWN!
liquidv2 wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 09:33 i didn't say anything either way goat boy; read my post again the fact that Azazel supports the guy honestly makes me think less of him, and again i have yet to meet him You know Azazel blindly supports anything n00bstories. You're acting just as much like a sheep to just blindly NOT support anything he supports.
Shark wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 10:59 i think just like the jarhead issue you will probably lock or delete this thread and ban anyone who complains more. this will not work anymore. OK, I don't give much credence to people who post as smurfs, but this here that I quoted, never happened. So who's lying now?
Crimson wrote on Sat, 19 May 2012 04:38 You know Azazel blindly supports anything n00bstories. You're acting just as much like a sheep to just blindly NOT support anything he supports. Tis true. Although, I have no need to lie, Joe is genuinely a really good moderator that gets the job done as we both know. Italy is well known for his trolling (in Ax as well) so this thread really isn't surprising at all. Tiny wrote on Fri, 18 May 2012 14:46 Azazel for all I care you can die in a fire with aids that's how much I care You've got the wrong end of the stick tbh. I understand st0rm still supports other games, I was genuinely wondering how's the community coping - never had a problem with you. I however do detest Wilo.
you must never play in ns then azazel :/
well known for my trolling? go fuck yourself sideways. this is a serious topic. i moderated atomix for years and at one stage pretty much single-handedly moderated the server (before and after Xpert took over). as ehh said you don't play there on a regular basis and you are not looking at it from both perspectives. you are just choosing sides. so please don't bother commenting anymore. your opinions are about as valued as Azaz... oh wait...
Azazel wrote on Sat, 19 May 2012 19:38 Italy is well known for his trolling (in Ax as well) So is everyone else trolling too? I've watched and seen his "moderating" You're blatantly fishing for a bad response from iTaLy with that. Everyone has their bad moments as a moderator, but I've yet to see one of his good moments. I've seen a few incidents in the little periods I play so I can understand why people are at least a little pissed at this guy.
iTaLy wrote on Sat, 19 May 2012 12:26 well known for my trolling? go fuck yourself sideways. this is a serious topic. i moderated atomix for years and at one stage pretty much single-handedly moderated the server (before and after Xpert took over). as ehh said you don't play there on a regular basis and you are not looking at it from both perspectives. you are just choosing sides. so please don't bother commenting anymore. your opinions are about as valued as Azaz... oh wait... I don't play there on a regular basis? lol, you need to get yourself updated, sir.
iTaLy wrote on Sat, 19 May 2012 13:26 i moderated atomix for years and at one stage pretty much single-handedly moderated the server (before and after Xpert took over). When was that?
So you play they regulary and have never seen joe do something out of line for a mod? ooooooooook!
ehhh wrote on Sat, 19 May 2012 16:04 So you play they regulary and have never seen joe do something out of line for a mod? ooooooooook! That statement would be correct.
well if you do play i haven't seen you, or are you too ashamed to use Azazel these days? i'm in there daily and get on great with mods and players alike, with joe being the only exception and Shai you thought me a lot as a mod and you know i was pretty fair and decent. both before the split i did a lot and after when i came back i would do a lot of the work and put in most of the hours ingame. Tiesto still likes milking cats btw
1. Trying to head a crusade against Exodus, when he wasnt even remotely involved in any of the split-off, simply trying to lick ns admin's arse 2. Trying to head a crusade against cheaters, cheating himself 3. Leaving quickly like a little coward, without a word, when getting caught 4. Coming back, receiving nothing but contempt from anybody he encounters, still stays 5. Goes on doing what he was always doing, licking ns admin arse and not even having an opinion of his own I think azazel is genuinely the most pathetic person I have ever seen in the renegade community, and that's saying a lot since there are a lot of people in this game who are full-blown psychopaths, including people who drive around a country with a video threatening others over forum comments, child predators and people who want to meet up with mods for sex to get unbanned Azazel is a nobody, whatever anyone he tries to suck up says, he echoes. Pathetic.
I was just poking at the "single-handed" bit, Italia. Just ignore Joe, and stop messing with him. When you first started playing there regularly, there was some incident and I said a few things to him in IRC. He didn't take the advise and just made things worse by blowing it out of proportion and making it escalate further. That's something he shouldn't be doing. Looking back through logs it seems to be a frequent problem. At any rate, cut your losses, Italy. With the owner backing it you cannot win.
Shai, i never intended to win, just to bring it to attention! the fact i'm muted for a week and everyday joe comes in game he pokes fun at me now is not nice. i ignore him and jut continue to play, but it's just downright bullying. i know what's right and what's wrong for a moderator, but what he's being doing even recently is wrong
iTaLy wrote on Sat, 19 May 2012 17:47 Shai, i never intended to win, just to bring it to attention! the fact i'm muted for a week and everyday joe comes in game he pokes fun at me now is not nice. i ignore him and jut continue to play, but it's just downright bullying. i know what's right and what's wrong for a moderator, but what he's being doing even recently is wrong A whole week? That shux.
no just a normal week, you stupid scouse rat retard.
Once again Azazel, it's not about the length of the punishment it's about why it was dished out. It was unfair. Azazel please just stop giving your pointless inputs here. Your ability to not see my point is quite bad on your part and quite stupid.
You could just try clicking this to stop seeing what he posts.
yeah just add him to your ignore list, anyway he should be banned from ns according to joejj80, he definitely hasn't played there recently at all and when he did no one knew who he was
Shark wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 10:59 he's very hard to work with this joe what he does is push people and provoke them into defending themselves. when they do defend that's when he hits them right in the face with a nice mute or kick. not everyone on the internet has a thick skin and naturally people defend themselves and get into arguments when insulted. i am sick of this terrible person creating a bad atmosphere in the server and terrorizing others this way. i have been on the internet long enough to know all kinds of people and how to deal with each kind. sadly not many can say this as most people the joe bans are young and innocent guys just playing the game after a rotten day at school and generally new to the internet. the best way to deal with the likes of this joe is to totally ignore and just focus on the game. it sucks because i like the server. i just play play play and don't bother with the drama joe dishes out. but I can't help the feeling that i am in some sort of dictatorship when playing because you never know that the most innocent thing you might say or even a joke could backfire on you with joe. crimson, is that the sort of atmosphere you want your players to be in? i am not talking about those regulars who established their names in the server but to the massive numbers of people that populate the server each day in their free time? btw, this is not my real account. i dare not use my main account. imagine how joe would look at me next time i am in server? to him now i am another silent player (cos i ignore his manipulation) and i like it to be that way. <--- says a lot about the nature of joe doesn't it? the need to use a smurf account to testify against him to avoid repercussions while playing a ten year old game? Crimson wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 02:21 It's really a shame that someone as awesome, level-headed, and hard-working as joe has to be subjected to such trolling, and then publicly bashed for doing his job and taking out the trash. I've gotten the low-down on what you guys pulled on the server and I think you should be ashamed of yourselves for acting like such childish little brats. Joe doesn't deserved to be bashed here, or anywhere. if there's any shame in this thread it's your 3 sentence pack of lies quoted above. a disgraceful pack of lies statement like this that reads like it came from Xinhua isn't gonna work this time around. the ignoring of the charges, lies and coverups are no longer going to silence those who have borne the brunt of this person's unjustifed attacks. the guy PROVOKES people into fighting him. does that not make anyyy sense to you? there's a big difference between getting a "low-down" by reading logs or talking with your mod on teamspeak versus actually playing the game and being the target of his provocation. i think just like the jarhead issue you will probably lock or delete this thread and ban anyone who complains more. this will not work anymore. doesn't bother me in the least as i mentioned before i know how to deal with this kind of individual. but not everyone can censor themselves and strip their own humanity away and turn themselves into a robot like i do to play in your server. sad part is i like gameplay conditions in your server. very much. will you actually listen to the people who are raising a legitimate concern of your mod's behavior or will you post another Xinhua post? will you actually keep in mind that i have to use my smurf account here to post these comments about your moderator since i fear the retaliation of him when i am ingame next time? or does such mind-numbing tyranny mean nothing to you? raising concerns about someone who should not be let anywhere near the reins of power = bashing to you? I do agree that those who have posted in this thread have used language that is not appropriate (regarding which I will address to them below) but these are based on the behavior of joe ingame and not some fantasy. i plead you to reconsider. Azazel wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 12:09 liquidv2 wrote on Wed, 16 May 2012 23:50 i've heard nothing but bad things about both jarhead and this joejjj guy; i have yet to meet either of them in Renegade The likes of you that have never even played with him have can't really comment on the way he moderates you only have a third hand account, so butt out. He's a fine moderator and I've never seen him go over the top at all. Everyone that's "broken the rules" got what they deserved fully. listen there disgraced fallen angel, why don't you stop posting? nothing you do or say will erase your criminal history nor will you get anywhere near the reins of power anymore. i hope. like it or not i got a firsthand account of this joe and have seen him maneuver, manipulate, and provoke innocent players to boil them up to a point of rage just to mute and kick them. this issue will only be settled after the truth will be acknowledged by the NS PTB. or they can choose to ban and delete this thread. on behalf of those he abused and demoralized, i will no longer be silent in this issue. ____________________ as advice to people who have borne the brunt of tyranny from joe including the topic starter, i suggest to tone down the language, eliminate ad hominem completely, remove all crude pictures and to make your statements and present your arguments using decent to-the-point posts. a passionate, clean, and pure line of reasoning will be required to fight this type of injustice. so please first get started on editing your posts and clean-up, please. if we use standards of decency in this debate, it will be difficult for the NS establishment to ignore you or brand you as "bashers" bear in mind that this is not something against NS or the outstanding server facilities provided to us to enjoy our free time but against the internal corruption of one of the mods and false, immoral Xinhua-type lies being announced by NS to cover it up. in summary, this situation has arisen because: -NS moderator Joejjj80 has been for years used cruel manipulation to maneuver unaware and unsuspecting players and provoke them into a fight so they can be muted or kicked. -a calm smooth peaceful server environment is turned to warfare and strife because of the aforementioned actions of NS moderator Joejjj80. -the situation is no longer bearable as players all across enjoy the NS server and its outstanding facilities, gameplay conditions, gameplay settings, and that such enjoyment is being corrupted by the tyrannical provoking activities of NS moderator Joejjj80. Nice post but it's a shame Crimson doesn't have a response to the real meat of this post.