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dear storm server, I cheated in your server many occasions, (Im only writing this because obviously I wont be welcome after this but I dont care) got unbanned and it was a good time, I appreciate everyone there being a good sport about it though and I am sorry for the hassle I caused you and your people on several occasions. noobstories, I used to play there, but then it became gay as fuck so as to not giving a damn I cheated there with rengaurd on all the time. I finally got caught one day because I got sloppy, but they were good times, a shitty server gets shitty respect from me so I cheated there as often as I could. No plans on coming back or post a "what you want to hear" ban appeal. jelly how Ill miss you, it was the only server out there I never cheated on and unfortunately I was banned for cheating the irony. I would just like to point a few things about jelly to the general public though. Their mod staff works on a fuck you basis. In other words, if you dont agree, say what they want to hear, agree that all their modding actions are always correct ect (many of you know what I mean) then you can get the fuck out. Now unfortunately jelly became less and less involved as did many of the other old admins and newer ones stepped up and provided modship to nobodys in recent years that really have fucked everything up. Initially it all started when I joined after being inactive for some months because I recently got a life (something they dont understand) and so went onto my once fav server played 3 games and got banned for emitters/cheats or something along that line you can read all the details here: http://jelly-server.com/forums/index.php?/topic/18969-banned-for-emmiterscheats/ Now not only did I only get 1 post in, but when I went to repost, they didnt show up, apparently I was "warned" (what are you 5 years old?) and my posts had to be screened first and this warn came as a result of me forgetting about a warn months and months before. Then I pm scruffy and torn( the mods who posted) and get pretty much no response except a "stay out". I even offered to give up the files in question exactly as they were but received no response. after iran (who makes cheats and gives them to others yet is still tolerated there, guess they dont know or something) and TORN revived an old ass topic about me getting out of banned situations, I joined in in an attempt to settle things straight now you can read this here http://jelly-server.com/forums/index.php?/topic/16859-so-it-happened-again/ starting at post 16. Believe me or not, what I said in those posts were true and I didnt EVER cheat in the server, the disturbing thing is though that they are throughlly convinced their system is catching all the hot new cheats. One file in particular it seems they had the biggest problem with was something called mandainoscreenshake.ddb which was a file I downloaded several years ago in attempt to stop the annoying shaking you receive from artillery and the file would actually be a nice patch to the game IF it worked. lols to me the file never ever worked but for shits and gigs I always just left in there and over the years really forgot about it as well as the cheats emmitters I was accused of using. regardless no cheats were ever active on my computer at said ban time. Yet the funny thing is they are all boasting about how this "new" system is catching all these "regulars" yet the only thing the system has caught from me were inactive cheat sounding files (to the jelly people: hell yea I lied about how I obtained those files because I know that you motherfuckers are the most unreasonable group of mods out there nowadays, something as simple as the truth of them being old forgotten inactive files would never fly into the reasoning zone of anyone there. I used to tell the truth to jelly mods but I would advise everyone to not try to reason with them at all these days) Now even if I was using a no screen shake file that worked and all these emmitters I was supposedly using one would think it might be a 6 month, year ban maybe, at least I didnt join and start hacking the shit out of the server or killing people through walls and all that bullshit like bones.ini but the logical thing of course of course was to ban me forever from the server and the forums. Now the fucked up thing about all this to me is not only did I not cheat but was banned for supposedly cheating. I was being watched for "some time". I received this form ban after receiving a warning, AND all my pm's were ignored. A quick previous history will show that I put up with a certain admin there liquids bullshit for some time, and was not about to be taken advantage of so I stood up for myself. What can you take away from this? jelly bans and allows people on a suck my dick basis. If you suck their dick, you might get banned, kicked whatever but youll find a place there in a month or two again I assure you. Just tell them your sorry ect ect bullshit bullshit and they will let you back in, but as soon as you stop sucking their dick they will become infuriated with you and put you down as often as possible for not agreeing with their way of thinking. Theres no open debate at jelly, its just all one sided now. Its why you see so many vote in a public poll but not actually post shit about why they voted that way. Because I decided to be honest about things and they way I felt there it got on their bad side and they literally looked for the asap ban for whatever violation I could do. Even if I didnt have these supposed files in my folder I would still be banned and forum banned there too. The more fucked up thing is if anyone from jelly were to post something similar to this they would also be banned as well just for "not being on the same page" yet years ago this wasnt the case. Whats funny about this though is years ago jelly wasnt the only populated server. You could play at many servers years ago and get some good games in but now everything is just condensed into jelly and noobstories which like any monopolizing company can do whatever to whomever they want to. It would be nice to see other servers pop up similar to jelly with better staff where you can join and not worry about some guy in an invincible tank building walls around your refinery and flying through the air with unlimited credits building turrets in your spawn points and purchasing every gun in the game with ingame commands. Jelly has only gotten this recent puffing of attitude because they are the last server left and they know it. I dont suggest to boycott jelly because frankly I still play there (have fun finding me guys!). But with the implementation of 4.0 and finally bringing ren to what it needs to be I sincerely hope it wont be one monopolizing server forever, Id like to find a good game with good people elsewhere. anyway shout out to my peeps for supporting my side of the story and agreeing with these points we have talked out, dont worry even though I know ALL my shit is banned there on this computer ip ect (which is why Im writing my fuck it on this account) Im not going to give you noobs up and ill see you ingame anyway despite their attempt to keep me out forever To everyone else STILL sucking their dicks on a daily basis, grow a pair and stand up for yourself. No reason to be scared just because this particular server is the last one youll find to play good rene on EDIT: hot damn I cant believe iv been registered here longer than spoony!
Oh boy. That was my laugh of the day. Thanks derfie.
I didn't even read that, but I like how you claim you didn't cheat on Jelly Mr. MandaiNoScreenShake.ddb. stfu p.s. oh, you actually put that in there but somehow claim it was for legitimate purposes even though it has a very well known cheat creator's nickname in the filename and obviously implies it came from a certain cheat website we all know. Of course, there's all the emitters you were using too, but hey, who's counting.
fredcow9 wrote on Sun, 22 April 2012 18:48 dear storm server, I cheated in your server many occasions, (Im only writing this because obviously I wont be welcome after this but I dont care) got unbanned and it was a good time, I appreciate everyone there being a good sport about it though and I am sorry for the hassle I caused you and your people on several occasions. we knew this a very long time ago, but you lied about it for years admitting it now doesn't change anything derfie fredcow9 wrote on Sun, 22 April 2012 18:48 noobstories, I used to play there, but then it became gay as fuck so as to not giving a damn I cheated there with rengaurd on all the time. I finally got caught one day because I got sloppy, but they were good times, a shitty server gets shitty respect from me so I cheated there as often as I could. No plans on coming back or post a "what you want to hear" ban appeal. you're just terrible at renegade derfcow; you cheated because you wanted someone somewhere to think you were good you're still the same retard you were when i first saw you, chasing my stolen Nod apc around the GDI base in your mammoth tank fredcow9 wrote on Sun, 22 April 2012 18:48 jelly how Ill miss you, it was the only server out there I never cheated on and unfortunately I was banned for cheating the irony. I would just like to point a few things about jelly to the general public though. Their mod staff works on a fuck you basis. In other words, if you dont agree, say what they want to hear, agree that all their modding actions are always correct ect (many of you know what I mean) then you can get the fuck out. Now unfortunately jelly became less and less involved as did many of the other old admins and newer ones stepped up and provided modship to nobodys in recent years that really have fucked everything up. the fact that you think Jelly is a bad place makes me think the contrary the fact that Jelly removed you for using cheat files means Jelly is doing the right thing; would you want to play on a server that allowed cheating? that's a strange notion derfie, but you're more than welcome to argue it fredcow9 wrote on Sun, 22 April 2012 18:48 Initially it all started when I joined after being inactive for some months because I recently got a life (something they dont understand) and so went onto my once fav server played 3 games and got banned for emitters/cheats or something along that line you can read all the details here: http://jelly-server.com/forums/index.php?/topic/18969-banned-for-emmiterscheats/ Now not only did I only get 1 post in, but when I went to repost, they didnt show up, apparently I was "warned" (what are you 5 years old?) and my posts had to be screened first and this warn came as a result of me forgetting about a warn months and months before. Then I pm scruffy and torn( the mods who posted) and get pretty much no response except a "stay out". I even offered to give up the files in question exactly as they were but received no response. they didn't listen to you because they knew you were lying even now you're still lying; you've come so far to admit to st0rm and NS but you are still protecting yourself in a little shroud of denial you're like the American version of Azazel fredcow9 wrote on Sun, 22 April 2012 18:48 after iran (who makes cheats and gives them to others yet is still tolerated there, guess they dont know or something) and TORN revived an old ass topic about me getting out of banned situations, I joined in in an attempt to settle things straight now you can read this here http://jelly-server.com/forums/index.php?/topic/16859-so-it-happened-again/ starting at post 16. Believe me or not, what I said in those posts were true and I didnt EVER cheat in the server, the disturbing thing is though that they are throughlly convinced their system is catching all the hot new cheats. One file in particular it seems they had the biggest problem with was something called mandainoscreenshake.ddb which was a file I downloaded several years ago in attempt to stop the annoying shaking you receive from artillery and the file would actually be a nice patch to the game IF it worked. lols to me the file never ever worked but for shits and gigs I always just left in there and over the years really forgot about it as well as the cheats emmitters I was accused of using. regardless no cheats were ever active on my computer at said ban time. Yet the funny thing is they are all boasting about how this "new" system is catching all these "regulars" yet the only thing the system has caught from me were inactive cheat sounding files (to the jelly people: hell yea I lied about how I obtained those files because I know that you motherfuckers are the most unreasonable group of mods out there nowadays, something as simple as the truth of them being old forgotten inactive files would never fly into the reasoning zone of anyone there. I used to tell the truth to jelly mods but I would advise everyone to not try to reason with them at all these days) Now even if I was using a no screen shake file that worked and all these emmitters I was supposedly using one would think it might be a 6 month, year ban maybe, at least I didnt join and start hacking the shit out of the server or killing people through walls and all that bullshit like bones.ini but the logical thing of course of course was to ban me forever from the server and the forums. Now the fucked up thing about all this to me is not only did I not cheat but was banned for supposedly cheating. I was being watched for "some time". I received this form ban after receiving a warning, AND all my pm's were ignored. A quick previous history will show that I put up with a certain admin there liquids bullshit for some time, and was not about to be taken advantage of so I stood up for myself. What can you take away from this? jelly bans and allows people on a suck my dick basis. If you suck their dick, you might get banned, kicked whatever but youll find a place there in a month or two again I assure you. Just tell them your sorry ect ect bullshit bullshit and they will let you back in, but as soon as you stop sucking their dick they will become infuriated with you and put you down as often as possible for not agreeing with their way of thinking. Theres no open debate at jelly, its just all one sided now. Its why you see so many vote in a public poll but not actually post shit about why they voted that way. Because I decided to be honest about things and they way I felt there it got on their bad side and they literally looked for the asap ban for whatever violation I could do. Even if I didnt have these supposed files in my folder I would still be banned and forum banned there too. The more fucked up thing is if anyone from jelly were to post something similar to this they would also be banned as well just for "not being on the same page" yet years ago this wasnt the case. Whats funny about this though is years ago jelly wasnt the only populated server. You could play at many servers years ago and get some good games in but now everything is just condensed into jelly and noobstories which like any monopolizing company can do whatever to whomever they want to. It would be nice to see other servers pop up similar to jelly with better staff where you can join and not worry about some guy in an invincible tank building walls around your refinery and flying through the air with unlimited credits building turrets in your spawn points and purchasing every gun in the game with ingame commands. Jelly has only gotten this recent puffing of attitude because they are the last server left and they know it. I dont suggest to boycott jelly because frankly I still play there (have fun finding me guys!). But with the implementation of 4.0 and finally bringing ren to what it needs to be I sincerely hope it wont be one monopolizing server forever, Id like to find a good game with good people elsewhere. anyway shout out to my peeps for supporting my side of the story and agreeing with these points we have talked out, dont worry even though I know ALL my shit is banned there on this computer ip ect (which is why Im writing my fuck it on this account) Im not going to give you noobs up and ill see you ingame anyway despite their attempt to keep me out forever To everyone else STILL sucking their dicks on a daily basis, grow a pair and stand up for yourself. No reason to be scared just because this particular server is the last one youll find to play good rene on EDIT: hot damn I cant believe iv been registered here longer than spoony! for some reason you still deem me as the bad guy, at the same time you think everyone was out to get you you never seemed to notice that, half the time, literally no one agreed with you on anything at all the rest of the time it was just a tiny handful of people, and they never really supported arguments of any kind simply put you are an idiot; go back and bring up some Spoony vs. derfcow9 religion debates for me when you said totally retarded shit of course i called you on it; i did the same with anyone else it's sad now that you still can't come clean about using cheats, and that you claim to ban evade to still play all you've done, through all of this, is earn your given title of derfcow9 to the fullest
remember this?
fredcow9 wrote on Sun, 22 April 2012 16:48 Im not going to give you noobs up or let us down, i hope
Wait... first you said: Quote: jelly how Ill miss you, it was the only server out there I never cheated on and unfortunately I was banned for cheating But then you said this: Quote: anyway shout out to my peeps for supporting my side of the story and agreeing with these points we have talked out, dont worry even though I know ALL my shit is banned there on this computer ip ect (which is why Im writing my fuck it on this account) Im not going to give you noobs up and ill see you ingame anyway despite their attempt to keep me out forever So you're just going to evade and cheat like every other idiot, despite initially stating the contrary? And act like you're the good guy? I know your post was an inconsistent stream-of-consciousness and a mangling of the English language, but do us a favour and not lie.
iRANian wrote on Mon, 23 April 2012 14:40 free derfcow amen brother
nikki6ixx wrote on Mon, 23 April 2012 11:54 Wait... first you said: Quote: jelly how Ill miss you, it was the only server out there I never cheated on and unfortunately I was banned for cheating But then you said this: Quote: anyway shout out to my peeps for supporting my side of the story and agreeing with these points we have talked out, dont worry even though I know ALL my shit is banned there on this computer ip ect (which is why Im writing my fuck it on this account) Im not going to give you noobs up and ill see you ingame anyway despite their attempt to keep me out forever So you're just going to evade and cheat like every other idiot, despite initially stating the contrary? And act like you're the good guy? Im not evading by continuing to play @ jelly because I really shouldnt have been banned forever in the first place. banned? sure, I would have banned me too if I were an admin and thought someone was cheating but forever? no. There is not 1 thing I could have done to avoid this either, even if I had no suspicious sounding files I still would have been banned just for sporting the name and some bullshit would have been made up to keep me out like right now. Its that extreme response thats fucking up renegade for everyone (note player drops every year) and the fact this attitude is coming from the only server still alive is frightening. fredcow9 was my name for years and the fact I have had to switch to something else was fairly annoying to me. This is something that the current admins could not get through their heads. I just keep a low profile and I know no ones wasting their time looking for me anyway so the only thing really different is fredcow9 is no longer in use on renegade. I did mean that Ill miss jelly though, rewind a few years and things were awesome not anymore though...Iv been missing jelly for a long time now.
for some reason you still think everyone is out to get you i think you're a bit paranoid or delusional here's the thing: mods don't care what names people play on the fact that you were caught cheating on a name that differs from your main one is irrelevant; you were still cheating using a cheat file is cheating; you had cheat files and were actively using them why are you still lying about it? why are you claiming to have been wrongfully banned? don't you want moderators to ban cheaters? i thought that was one of the many roles of a moderator in the first place Jelly is much better off without you cheating there derfie
stupid mother fucker lmao
how the hell do you even get caught cheating at this game lol you have to be as stupid as azazel and masterb8tes
iRANian wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 06:01 how the hell do you even get caught cheating at this game lol you have to be as stupid as azazel and masterb8tes how would you know, you weren't even around for either of the bans and the drama/lulz back then lmao
i was? i was talking with azazel on irc for a few weeks before it happened lol, i read the topic about the masterb8tes guy
iRANian wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 06:31 i was? i was talking with azazel on irc for a few weeks before it happened lol, i read the topic about the masterb8tes guy Who the fuck are you? I don't recall ever even speaking to you, other than when I was trolling people in Atomix and pming them about putting timed's on them and laughing. @liquidv2: I'd quote you but I don't care that much. A American version of me? Worst insult you've came up with yet. brb spitting on the American flag.
liquidv2 wrote on Tue, 24 April 2012 18:18 for some reason you still think everyone is out to get you i think you're a bit paranoid or delusional are you still this stupid? Quote: here's the thing: mods don't care what names people play on the fact that you were caught cheating on a name that differs from your main one is irrelevant; you were still cheating using a cheat file is cheating; you had cheat files and were actively using them yep those screen shake emitter files were just all over the place in my gameplay... Quote: why are you still lying about it? why are you claiming to have been wrongfully banned? don't you want moderators to ban cheaters? i thought that was one of the many roles of a moderator in the first place You want me to lie and say I cheated? how thick is your skull? mods need to ban cheaters, but they need to get direct evidence instead of relying on a moot bot that really does nothing. Remember when said bot went around kicking everyone who wasnt cheating in the past? http://jelly-server.com/forums/index.php?/topic/15802-recent-bans/ Quote: Jelly is much better off without you cheating there derfie cool story bro, jelly will be better off when you stop being an admin there and several other key people are removed of modship. liquidv2 wrote on Tue, 24 April 2012 18:20 Im such a stupid mother fucker lmao I agree
Azazel wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 08:12 iRANian wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 06:31 i was? i was talking with azazel on irc for a few weeks before it happened lol, i read the topic about the masterb8tes guy Who the fuck are you? I don't recall ever even speaking to you, other than when I was trolling people in Atomix and pming them about putting timed's on them and laughing. @liquidv2: I'd quote you but I don't care that much. A American version of me? Worst insult you've came up with yet. brb spitting on the American flag. it's the ma1kel guy from black cell, making his way to good renegade player status now that everyone has quit, also he is the new cheat supplier so he probably hooked u up LOL
fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 10:21 liquidv2 wrote on Tue, 24 April 2012 18:18 for some reason you still think everyone is out to get you i think you're a bit paranoid or delusional are you still this stupid? i don't get it; are you trying to say i'm stupid because what you're saying is stupid? your intelligence is simply baffling derfie fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 10:21 Quote: here's the thing: mods don't care what names people play on the fact that you were caught cheating on a name that differs from your main one is irrelevant; you were still cheating using a cheat file is cheating; you had cheat files and were actively using them yep those screen shake emitter files were just all over the place in my gameplay... you're trying to be sarcastic, but what you say is true the location of the files was proof that you were using them at that very moment when the moderator checked you fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 10:21 Quote: why are you still lying about it? why are you claiming to have been wrongfully banned? don't you want moderators to ban cheaters? i thought that was one of the many roles of a moderator in the first place You want me to lie and say I cheated? how thick is your skull? mods need to ban cheaters, but they need to get direct evidence instead of relying on a moot bot that really does nothing. Remember when said bot went around kicking everyone who wasnt cheating in the past? http://jelly-server.com/forums/index.php?/topic/15802-recent-bans/ the bot glitching and banning people because of a serial issue actually has 100% nothing to do with how you got caught cheating and why you were banned i'm not sure that you understand how much of a proven cheater you are, and the fact that even now you're still flat-out lying about it is probably the reason they chose to ban you from the forums it's humorous that you're insinuating that i'm actually thick-skulled on another level it's sad, because you might actually be mentally ill and not know the difference fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 10:21 Quote: Jelly is much better off without you cheating there derfie cool story bro, jelly will be better off when you stop being an admin there and several other key people are removed of modship. i'm sad you think that it would be neat if you could give a legitimate reason for it though you're basically pissed off that i call you on all of the stupid things that you say and do, and for that reason you think i'm a terrible moderator who wields his power like some internet keyboard crusader the problem is you're actually just too stupid to know what's going on, which is why i've had problems with you in the past fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 10:21 liquidv2 wrote on Tue, 24 April 2012 18:20 Im such a stupid mother fucker lmao I agree you sure showed me who's boss derfcow i think that, several months from now, you'll come out and say something like: Ha ha i was cheating but it's ok I don't care about Renegade anymore but I'm still ban evading please don't have any children
liquidv2 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 11:32 fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 10:21 liquidv2 wrote on Tue, 24 April 2012 18:18 [color=skyblue]for some reason you still think everyone is out to get you i think you're a bit paranoid or delusional are you still this stupid? i don't get it; are you trying to say i'm stupid because what you're saying is stupid? your intelligence is simply baffling derfie nah, just pointing out the nonsense your spewing away Quote: you're trying to be sarcastic, but what you say is true the location of the files was proof that you were using them at that very moment when the moderator checked you right, too bad the files did nothing, which is why you can refer back to my sarcastic remark. Quote: the bot glitching and banning people because of a serial issue actually has 100% nothing to do with how you got caught cheating and why you were banned because of the bot, which has been shown to not work properly as proved by my earlier link, I wasnt observed cheating, I wasnt even complained about, this is 100% based off what your "new and improved" cheat detection system thought it was catching me with. Quote: i'm not sure that you understand how much of a proven cheater you are, cheater as in all I do is cheat? if you really think that then you must really have doubts about your systems inability to supposedly catch me the famed cheater in the past... Quote: and the fact that even now you're still flat-out lying about it is probably the reason they chose to ban you from the forums nope, just all the "trouble" aka not agreeing with the staff on just about every issue, my voicing of my opinion painted a negative view in a community thats expected to be uniform apparently. again check your polls and see just how many people actually post as to how many vote in them. Quote: it's humorous that you're insinuating that i'm actually thick-skulled glad your day was lightened. Quote: on another level it's sad, because you might actually be mentally ill and not know the difference Im not sure where your getting mentally ill from but whatever excuse works in your world go ahead and continue your line of thinking. [ Quote: i'm sad you think that Im highly skeptical of that, I used to think you were a great mod/admin and actually supported you on the forums, just when you started getting out of line things change. Quote: it would be neat if you could give a legitimate reason for it though sure, harder to prove without my forum ban but the constant harassing of myself and the fact you legitimately think im mentally ill are some of the clues to start you on your way. Quote: you're basically pissed off that i call you on all of the stupid things that you say and do, I encourage this actually, Im not so sure why you assume im even mad in the slightest at all. Quote: and for that reason you think i'm a terrible moderator who wields his power like some internet keyboard crusader no the problem is really this next quote Quote: the problem is you're actually just too stupid to know what's going on, which is why i've had problems with you in the past This is your constant attitude, you dont reason or think things through, you ignore all valid points ever made against you and the fact I didnt even get a chance to tell my side of my story in the ban topic I made reflects the jelly team has really conformed to your line of thinking which is if they pose a problem just get rid of them. Quote: you sure showed me who's boss derfcow as did you Quote: i think that you think too much without actually knowing anything. thats your main problem m8. Quote: several months from now, you'll come out and say something like: Ha ha i was cheating I could have done that in my op, but its not the truth so again why would I lie? Im banned for life under fedcow9, my serial Im sure and my isp, hash ect. oh how you underestimate me. Quote: but it's ok I don't care about Renegade anymore but I'm still ban evading Iv never "cared" about ren in the fanatical way you do, and im not ban evading, just evading because your staff left me no choice. Im not going to not play rene just because the only populated server doesnt like me and has no other reason to keep me out. Quote: please don't have any children not a surprise of a comment, you really proved your own statement: Quote: it would be neat if you could give a legitimate reason for it though
what skin pack did you download and why would anyone give you a second chance when you've cheated in n00bstories and st0rm in the past
Those files were cheats. Why do you keep denying it. EVERYONE knows Mandai was one of the biggest cheat makers in Ren before mr *cheat name removed*came along. Also the emitters are cheats as well. Like I said, not a new policy, just better detection now. Sorry we try to find and stop cheats in our servers.
We allow all those plasma thiima bullet things. Those long ass lasers on guns is kinda gay though.
fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 10:21 Quote: here's the thing: mods don't care what names people play on the fact that you were caught cheating on a name that differs from your main one is irrelevant; you were still cheating using a cheat file is cheating; you had cheat files and were actively using them yep those screen shake emitter files were just all over the place in my gameplay... You are FUCKING STUPID. If you had those files in the place that you did (which we have proof of) with the filenames that they had, then Renegade would have loaded them into memory. No ifs, ands, or buts about it (unless of course you were using that objects injector thing, but that's a whole other story). You seem to keep denying this, but that is in complete contrary to how Renegade works. So yes, they definitely WERE affecting your gameplay and you definitely WERE cheating your balls off. Now please continue to cry about it.
T0RN wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 15:10 We allow all those plasma thiima bullet things. Those long ass lasers on guns is kinda gay though. i have to use them because for some reason my new GPU makes the bullets 99% transparent, i have to press my nose to the screen to be able to see them now
T0RN wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 15:01 Those files were cheats. Why do you keep denying it. EVERYONE knows Mandai was one of the biggest cheat makers in Ren before mr *cheat name removed*came along. Also the emitters are cheats as well. Like I said, not a new policy, just better detection now. Sorry we try to find and stop cheats in our servers. Quote: (to the jelly people: hell yea I lied about how I obtained those files because I know that you motherfuckers are the most unreasonable group of mods out there nowadays, something as simple as the truth of them being old forgotten inactive files would never fly into the reasoning zone of anyone there. I used to tell the truth to jelly mods but I would advise everyone to not try to reason with them at all these days) old news, read my post in its entirety. If you read my post you would also understand that the only reason I protested and became suspicious of the bot ect is because of the immediateness of locking of topics, and hushing me away as fast as possible. I didnt even get to post more in my topic because I got a forum ban out of the blue. iRANian wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 14:59 what skin pack did you download and why would anyone give you a second chance when you've cheated in n00bstories and st0rm in the past I posted links of my old download sites in the forum, but a certain forum ban prevents me from retrieving this. There never was an opportunity for a second chance, there was not even a chance in the first place actually. like I said, sporting the name fredcow9 was going to get me banned anyway. Also why would I want a second chance when I just made my own?
fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 18:05 Quote: (to the jelly people: hell yea I lied about how I obtained those files because I know that you motherfuckers are the most unreasonable group of mods out there nowadays, something as simple as the truth of them being old forgotten inactive files would never fly into the reasoning zone of anyone there. I used to tell the truth to jelly mods but I would advise everyone to not try to reason with them at all these days) We're unreasonable because we banned you for cheating and refuse to allow you to spam the fuck out of our forums with shit whining about how you want to be unbanned and how you're just gonna evade anyway? Do you know how many people think they will "just evade anyway?" Fortunately, Jelly has the best anti-evasion shit I've seen on any of the servers (doesn't mean someone doesn't have a stronger setup, though).
fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 16:50 nah, just pointing out the nonsense your spewing away you're* i'm not spewing out nonsense dearest derfcow; i'm merely telling you the truth, as i always have for some reason the truth, as shown by the past, throws you into a fit of rage fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 16:50 right, too bad the files did nothing, which is why you can refer back to my sarcastic remark. hmm, yes, yes what we have here is the equivalent of someone posting a screenshot of them running R-G-H in the corner, and then claiming Well whatever I just downloaded it as a joke; it doesn't even work anyways you had cheat files exactly where cheat files go, my dearest derfcow why do you expect anyone to believe you weren't cheating when you've casually demonstrated in the past how comfortable you actually are with cheating? fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 16:50 because of the bot, which has been shown to not work properly as proved by my earlier link, I wasnt observed cheating, I wasnt even complained about, this is 100% based off what your "new and improved" cheat detection system thought it was catching me with. you seem to think the ban system was in some way responsible for how you were caught cheating like i already said, and like you chose to ignore (not surprising, you fucking retard) is the plugin that caught you is a separate entity there has been mistakes in the past of many kinds, but i can assure you derfie, this was no mistake fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 16:50 cheater as in all I do is cheat? if you really think that then you must really have doubts about your systems inability to supposedly catch me the famed cheater in the past... ...what? where did you get that from lmao the system was updated and the cheats you were using were detected i have reason to believe you were using them for quite a long time (considering you have been using cheats for well over two years now) and that they had just gone unnoticed or unseen until now; you're clearly quite furious at the fact that you were caught using cheats in the one server you claim to have never cheated in go on lying about it; everyone believes you fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 16:50 nope, just all the "trouble" aka not agreeing with the staff on just about every issue, my voicing of my opinion painted a negative view in a community thats expected to be uniform apparently. again check your polls and see just how many people actually post as to how many vote in them. that's the same for most gaming communities; do you honestly expect every member to join and be active on the forums? i'm not sure what point you're trying to make but i'm sure it made good sense in your head Jelly has never expected to be uniform; for some reason you think everyone is out to get you, as i've said numerous times and will have to continue to repeat until you understand there's nothing wrong with disagreeing with anything; the fact of the matter is you were completely unable to back up anything you said, and when faced with the truth continued to spout bullshit and lie about topics if you ever encountered resistance for being a dishonest fuck then you shouldn't be so confused as to why but, then again, you're derfcow and i almost expect that from you fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 16:50 Im not sure where your getting mentally ill from but whatever excuse works in your world go ahead and continue your line of thinking. you're* idk if you realize this, but you're a very thick-headed individual i'm actually quite open-minded, which is the opposite of what you are you haven't changed much from the first day i saw you ingame what you did there is thick-headed, and what you are doing now is thick-headed do you understand? i don't think you do, and that's why i suggested that you might be mentally ill fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 16:50 sure, harder to prove without my forum ban but the constant harassing of myself and the fact you legitimately think im mentally ill are some of the clues to start you on your way. all i said is that it would make perfect sense to me if i found out you were mentally ill; it would explain much are you saying that, because i say you're an idiot for saying idiotic things, that i'm a bad person? i'm merely being honest, or stating the obvious what might have helped you long ago was if someone had had the heart to tell you when you were being an idiot, because you seem perplexed whenever it happens fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 16:50 I encourage this actually, Im not so sure why you assume im even mad in the slightest at all. you don't encourage people to question your statements or beliefs and also, when they do you don't even read or understand it; it goes in one ear and out the other fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 16:50 This is your constant attitude, you dont reason or think things through, you ignore all valid points ever made against you and the fact I didnt even get a chance to tell my side of my story in the ban topic I made reflects the jelly team has really conformed to your line of thinking which is if they pose a problem just get rid of them. that has never been my line of thinking; i hope you can back up such an accusation i've had several people tell me that i'm an arrogant, cocky asshole that is unreasonable in the end it always turned out to be the people i disliked for legitimate reasons; i'm sorry if the fact that i think you're an idiot shines through in my posts, but it's true here's basically what happens: in your mind you have a valid point i read and give everything a fair chance, i really do but nothing you say makes it past that, because it's usually just plain wrong or delusional horse shit all of the garbage you come up with on various issues gets filtered out, as it should i honestly don't care if people disagree with me about anything; they have every right to but when they can never back it up in any sensible or reasonable way then i don't much value their opinion for example, your opinion could be that "stank rushes on city are not overpowered because GDI gets stanks too" am i supposed to just agree with you because that's your opinion? no, i will not, and i may even call you an idiot for suggesting it fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 16:50 Quote: i think that you think too much without actually knowing anything. thats your main problem m8. really? i do a good job backing everything that i say up, something you have never done and likely will never do is that my problem? no; what you do is your own business however, don't expect anyone to give you any credibility did you ever stop to think that, perhaps the way you are, is the reason people dislike you? it's not that you disagree, though you quite clearly seem to think so i almost think you have a problem with *gasp* being wrong about things you can say the same about me but in all honesty i have no problem admitting when i'm wrong and telling people about it in the past on Jelly a player named majid was getting cheat accusations and told me a plan he had to post a screenshot with R-G-H in the corner and pretend it was an accident i said that, if he was going to do it, that he should post 3 screenshots, but only one with the R-G-H in the corner so it truly looked like an accident a moderator saw it and instantly banned him, citing that it was full proof and that it couldn't possibly be anything else (i had not said anything, for it would have ruined his joke) i hadn't the slightest idea that anyone would notice that quickly or actually take it that seriously, let alone act on it in the end it wasn't a very mod-like move to allow such a thing to happen (though i still thought it was humorous that several players that had been riding majid for months made fools of themselves in the few hours before he could say it was a joke) i did formally apologize for it, and accepted it and moved on fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 16:50 Quote: several months from now, you'll come out and say something like: Ha ha i was cheating I could have done that in my op, but its not the truth so again why would I lie? Im banned for life under fedcow9, my serial Im sure and my isp, hash ect. oh how you underestimate me. the worst-case scenario is you'll evade and play again and still be terrible despite whatever cheats you choose to run if you cause problems with in-game chat you'll likely get dealt with as would anyone else Jelly Games doesn't discriminate but let me clear this up again: you still maintain your innocence ok, that's all you needed to say come see me when you don't have to lie about what you've done and can accept it for what it is it took you this long to come clean about cheating in other servers years ago so i don't expect anything anytime soon fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 16:50 Iv never "cared" about ren in the fanatical way you do, and im not ban evading, just evading because your staff left me no choice. Im not going to not play rene just because the only populated server doesnt like me and has no other reason to keep me out. the most populated server in Renegade dislikes you for cheating on it, which is why you were banned from it i'm not sure if you realize that using cheat files is considered cheating (aka bighead, etc.), and that is why you were banned i care about Renegade in a fanatical way? tell me, when is the last time i played Renegade derfcow i enjoy the game, and i would like it to continue for as long as it can i fail to see how that makes me a fanatic again, you were banned for having cheat files in your game folder you were using them as you played; you were cheating i don't understand why you're denying it; there's no denying what you had the fact that you continued to lie about it then (and choose to lie about it now) is likely why you were forum banned fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 16:50 Quote: please don't have any children not a surprise of a comment, you really proved your own statement: Quote: it would be neat if you could give a legitimate reason for it though i think the world would be better off without people as thick-headed as yourself, and if you not having children could possibly contribute to this notion i think it could only be a good thing i asked why you think i'm a terrible administrator; are you suggesting that this is so, because i seem to dislike you as an individual and am not courteous and polite to you? why you think certain moderators should be removed, namely ones that have had problems with you in the past (aka dave2916, who banned you for teamkilling and teamhampering based off the words of xxxozxxxx and the corresponding IRC logs proving it) you seem to have a real problem with people that have a problem with you, but you're looking at it the wrong way: what you should be considering is that, perhaps, there's a one in a million chance that the fault is actually *gasp* your own something to think about
fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 18:05 like I said, sporting the name fredcow9 was going to get me banned anyway. that's a great attitude to have, and something great to keep telling yourself: "they're going to ban me anyways, because they don't like me" i'm sure there were people that did like you, but i'm not one of them tell me, how many players has Jelly banned simply because they "don't like them" i'm quite serious; i would like you to tell me this is another example of the "everyone is out to get me" thinking there's no problem with not agreeing with the masses; do you think everyone agreed with everything i ever said? not a fucking chance the difference is i actually supported my views and listened to what others had to say; you don't listen to what anyone says unless it reinforces what you've already said you'd make a fine religious zealot or fanatical political activist
Hitman wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 08:36 Azazel wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 08:12 iRANian wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 06:31 i was? i was talking with azazel on irc for a few weeks before it happened lol, i read the topic about the masterb8tes guy Who the fuck are you? I don't recall ever even speaking to you, other than when I was trolling people in Atomix and pming them about putting timed's on them and laughing. @liquidv2: I'd quote you but I don't care that much. A American version of me? Worst insult you've came up with yet. brb spitting on the American flag. it's the ma1kel guy from black cell, making his way to good renegade player status now that everyone has quit, also he is the new cheat supplier so he probably hooked u up LOL I remember ma1kel, I'm sure we banned him in tmx for bh AGES ago. I'll try and retrieve the logs for lulz. Never spoke to him though, still a nobody to me.
I suppose your still a cheater to him though.
Azazel wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 07:43 Hitman wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 08:36 it's the ma1kel guy from black cell, making his way to good renegade player status now that everyone has quit, also he is the new cheat supplier so he probably hooked u up LOL I remember ma1kel, I'm sure we banned him in tmx for bh AGES ago. I'll try and retrieve the logs for lulz. Never spoke to him though, still a nobody to me. http://jelly-server.com/forums/index.php?/topic/18988-banned-forever-ago/page__v iew__findpost__p__267278 What he does is makes server side plugins for people, and they tend to look the other way when he pulls shit like that. What's absurd is that BH in that topic is the one I(DJEYEK found it) gave him, for trying to make an anti-cheat for it. It is funny he sucked ass at sniping before he started coding plugins, now he's "pro". He "lags" like a bitch with 4.0 running, every movement he makes is that way.
Azazel wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 08:43 Never spoke to him though, still a nobody to me. that shows you think you're somebody let me be clear - you are less than a nobody shai, is that the topic where Iran directed some guy to bighead and then the guy got banned? to be clear on that one, the guy actually went to Iran in the first place asking for cheats so he could kill players he thought were cheating
Quote: you're* i'm not spewing out nonsense dearest derfcow; i'm merely telling you the truth, as i always have for some reason the truth, as shown by the past, throws you into a fit of rage of course Quote: hmm, yes, yes what we have here is the equivalent of someone posting a screenshot no one observed me doing anything illegal. Quote: of them running R-G-H in the corner, and then claiming Well whatever I just downloaded it as a joke; it doesn't even work anyways A direct picture showing someone using *cheat name removed*is less failable. Quote: you had cheat files exactly where cheat files go, my dearest derfcow again whatever makes you feel better. Quote: why do you expect anyone to believe you weren't cheating when you've casually demonstrated in the past how comfortable you actually are with cheating? you just dont read things, In my op on the jelly forums I said I didnt expect anyone to believe me and fully expected a ban anyway. I dont know why I bother. Iv never found anything wrong with cheating in casual non important servers. eg the build servers/noobstories ect. Jelly was the server I never cheated on and I still wont even in the future. Quote: you seem to think the ban system was in some way responsible for how you were caught cheating How else was I "caught" lmao Quote: like i already said, and like you chose to ignore (not surprising, you fucking retard) another moot point, but go ahead and rage some more. Quote: is the plugin that caught you is a separate entity there has been mistakes in the past of many kinds, but i can assure you derfie, this was no mistake the broken record continues... Quote: [color=skyblue]...what? where did you get that from lmao here Quote: i'm not sure that you understand how much of a proven cheater you are, Quote: the system was updated and the cheats you were using were detected nice update, was it called lockbox? Quote: i have reason to believe you were using them for quite a long time Oh please entertain me here! Quote: (considering you have been using cheats for well over two years now) You dont spectate my computer, the times I cheated were less than I can count on both hands. Thats including storm noobstories ect. I dont know what gives you this thinking of your knowing everything but you really dont.. Quote: and that they had just gone unnoticed or unseen until now; smh, Quote: ...what? where did you get that from lmao Quote: you're clearly quite furious at the fact that you were caught using cheats in the one server you claim to have never cheated in go on lying about it; everyone believes you actually no one believes me, and why do you think im furious? Do you really think this whole thing has changed anything except the name I play under? Quote: that's the same for most gaming communities; do you honestly expect every member to join and be active on the forums? i'm not sure what point you're trying to make but i'm sure it made good sense in your head its clearly beyond you. Quote: Jelly has never expected to be uniform; until of course someone disagrees with you. Quote: for some reason you think everyone is out to get you, No not everyone, just a select few who happen to have the power to keep me out. The majority of ppl Im m8s with are ingame, some on the forums, used to be mods but no real admins/mods as they have changed. Quote: as i've said numerous times and will have to continue to repeat until you understand I dont understand anything remember? Quote: there's nothing wrong with disagreeing with anything; the fact of the matter is you were completely unable to back up anything you said, and when faced with the truth continued to spout bullshit and lie about topics How can I back something I said when Im banned from the forum to post anything in the first place? When my topic is locked within minutes of me posting it? Why do you ignore these facts? Quote: if you ever encountered resistance for being a dishonest fuck then you shouldn't be so confused as to why ? Quote: but, then again, you're derfcow and i almost expect that from you More maturity, your quite the face for jelly. Quote: you're* idk if you realize this, but you're a very thick-headed individual How thick? Quote: i'm actually quite open-minded, which is the opposite of what you are Right, your open minded, ask anyone in the world I doubt they will respond with IM pretty closed minded actually... Quote: you haven't changed much from the first day i saw you ingame what you did there is thick-headed, and what you are doing now is thick-headed of course it is. Quote: do you understand? i don't think you do, and that's why i suggested that you might be mentally ill right, continue face of jelly games. And you tried to make yourself to be a fair person. You actually suggested I dont have children, I dont see what type of open minded fair logical person would ever attack a person in such a way. Especially over a video game. Quote: all i said is that it would make perfect sense to me if i found out you were mentally ill; it would explain much what were the signs and symptoms aligned with direct quotes from myself that gave away a certain mental ailment? which ailment specifically? Quote: are you saying that, because i say you're an idiot for saying idiotic things, that i'm a bad person? i'm merely being honest, or stating the obvious Im saying that you calling me an idiot at all is your own opinion. The extent to which you go to call me an idiot just shows alot about your character. Quote: what might have helped you long ago was if someone had had the heart to tell you when you were being an idiot, because you seem perplexed whenever it happens still continuing with the idiot rage? Quote: you don't encourage people to question your statements or beliefs Where did I not encourage such? Quote: and also, when they do you don't even read or understand it; it goes in one ear and out the other Not a surprising response from someone who thinks im a mentally ill idiot who shouldnt have children. Quote: that has never been my line of thinking; i hope you can back up such an accusation of course it hasnt. Quote: i've had several people tell me that i'm an arrogant, cocky asshole that is unreasonable in the end it always turned out to be the people i disliked for legitimate reasons; i'm sorry if the fact that i think you're an idiot shines through in my posts, but it's true No you just go out of your way instead of making a legitimate point youd rather defame someones character. You have really proved this the more you continue to respond naturally. Quote: here's basically what happens: in your mind you have a valid point i read and give everything a fair chance, i really do but nothing you say makes it past that, because it's usually just plain wrong or delusional horse shit Why did you even tell me this? I dont care about your fake "fair chance" Quote: all of the garbage you come up with on various issues gets filtered out, as it should So you are admitting to having a previous bias to everything I say. Quote: i honestly don't care if people disagree with me about anything; they have every right to but when they can never back it up in any sensible or reasonable way then i don't much value their opinion Seems quite contrary to everything youv said so far. Quote: for example, your opinion could be that "stank rushes on city are not overpowered because GDI gets stanks too" am i supposed to just agree with you because that's your opinion? no, i will not, and i may even call you an idiot for suggesting it gdi cant get stanks too so I really dont get what your getting at here. Quote: really? i do a good job backing everything that i say up, You claimed Im mentally ill, shouldnt have children and am a complete idiot, surely youll be able to make a decent evident argument to this since you back everything up so well. Quote: something you have never done and likely will never do is that my problem? no; what you do is your own business however, don't expect anyone to give you any credibility You may start to notice that its just you here. If I wasnt form banned I could go through many polls topics ect where others thought I was correct I provided evidence ect. Do you really think I NEVER in the history of my existence backed anything up? Quote: did you ever stop to think that, perhaps the way you are, is the reason people dislike you? You mean your social group on jelly? Quote: it's not that you disagree, though you quite clearly seem to think so i almost think you have a problem with *gasp* being wrong about things The same can be said for you. Quote: you can say the same about me but in all honesty i have no problem admitting when i'm wrong and telling people about it Of course youll say that now. Quote: in the past on Jelly a player named majid was getting cheat accusations and told me a plan he had to post a screenshot with R-G-H in the corner and pretend it was an accident i said that, if he was going to do it, that he should post 3 screenshots, but only one with the R-G-H in the corner so it truly looked like an accident a moderator saw it and instantly banned him, citing that it was full proof and that it couldn't possibly be anything else (i had not said anything, for it would have ruined his joke) i hadn't the slightest idea that anyone would notice that quickly or actually take it that seriously, let alone act on it in the end it wasn't a very mod-like move to allow such a thing to happen (though i still thought it was humorous that several players that had been riding majid for months made fools of themselves in the few hours before he could say it was a joke) i did formally apologize for it, and accepted it and moved on Thats fucked up. You let someone cheat as a joke, yet I havent even been caught cheating and Im banned. Its this hypocrisy that really shows your true colors. Quote: the worst-case scenario is you'll evade and play again and still be terrible despite whatever cheats you choose to run Im not so sure what my gameplay skill levels have to do with cheating. If you think people cheat because they are trying to make up for a lack of skill in a game then your looking at cheating completely wrong. Assume your worst case scenario is in play btw. I dont run cheats. Quote: if you cause problems with in-game chat you'll likely get dealt with as would anyone else Jelly Games doesn't discriminate I know how to not be found. Quote: but let me clear this up again: you still maintain your innocence ok, that's all you needed to say excellent Quote: come see me when you don't have to lie about what you've done and can accept it for what it is You mean come see me when you take my side and accept the cheats you werent using. Quote: it took you this long to come clean about cheating in other servers years ago so i don't expect anything anytime soon I came clean about the cheats to many people the moment I did it. Just because you werent one of them doesnt mean anything. You think your supposed to be involved in alot of things but frankly your really not. This is old news, I just publicly released the info for shits and gigs. Quote: the most populated server in Renegade dislikes you for cheating on it, which is why you were banned from it For life? Hm so your telling me anyone who is caught using any cheats on jelly is now banned for life? Quote: i'm not sure if you realize that using cheat files is considered cheating (aka bighead, etc.)and that is why you were banned Which for the last time and I wont address this again, I was ok with because said files existed in my folder at the time and so I was ready to accept punishment and own up to having cheat sounding files in my folder. However first response to my ban topic was life ban. You can figure out the rest. Quote: i care about Renegade in a fanatical way? tell me, when is the last time i played Renegade derfcow i enjoy the game, and i would like it to continue for as long as it can i fail to see how that makes me a fanatic You seem to get quite worked up over it. Your still replying to my posts for some reason. Quote: again, you were banned for having cheat files in your game folder you were using them as you played; Your staff proved I had files in my folder, no one proved I was using them. This is also the last time Im addressing this because Its annoying. I didnt use any files, none were active and no one can prove I used anything actively because there inst the tineyest shred of proof for it. When someone shows me evidence of my actively using the cheats at the time of this ban or EVER in my history of playing at jelly then ill be as shocked as having the ability to fly. Quote: you were cheating nope Quote: i don't understand why you're denying it; there's no denying what you had Theres no proving what I had, what did I do in game that was fishy/showed I used cheats. All you have are names from a bot. Quote: the fact that you continued to lie about it then (and choose to lie about it now) is likely why you were forum banned Glad to hear an explanation. Though it looks like non mods have more power than the mods there as lurker suggested it and then it happened. Quote: i think the world would be better off without people as thick-headed as yourself, and if you not having children could possibly contribute to this notion i think it could only be a good thing You off your soapbox yet? Quote: i asked why you think i'm a terrible administrator; are you suggesting that this is so, because i seem to dislike you as an individual and am not courteous and polite to you? Id have to say letting someone run *cheat name removed*and then withholding information seems proof enough right there. If youv done this who knows what else youv done but wont tell anyone about because it might fuck you in the ass? Quote: why you think certain moderators should be removed, namely ones that have had problems with you in the past (aka dave2916, who banned you for teamkilling and teamhampering based off the words of xxxozxxxx and the corresponding IRC logs proving it) Mike needed to be removed as when he was a trial mod he kicked me for destroying a humvee mass he was busy th'ing with. skeptical is new to the modship and kicked me for 2 weeks for supposedly giving tanks away. scruffy just form banned me because a non moderator told him to. You allowed someone to use *cheat name removed*post a ss, get them in a heat of trouble and didnt say a damn thing. Of course I cant remember years of poor modship incidents specifically so it would be pointless for me to describe them. I dont even know who dave29516 is... Quote: you seem to have a real problem with people that have a problem with you, but you're looking at it the wrong way: what you should be considering is that, perhaps, there's a one in a million chance that the fault is actually *gasp* your own I can only think of a handful of people that actually have a problem with me. Its the possession of power they have gained since I started at jelly that has gotten me where I am. Quote: something to think about Thanks dr phil
liquidv2 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 10:49 shai, is that the topic where Iran directed some guy to bighead and then the guy got banned? to be clear on that one, the guy actually went to Iran in the first place asking for cheats so he could kill players he thought were cheating[/color] You can be as "clear" as you want to be. It doesn't take away from the fact he's known for doing that type of stuff.
(&JellyMarathon) [CHEAT] therefhop has file w_ionb_closed.w3d (&JellyMarathon) [CHEAT] therefhop has file nukeemitter.w3d (&JellyMarathon) [CHEAT] therefhop has file ionemitter.w3d (&JellyMarathon) [CHEAT] therefhop has file MandaiNoScreenShake.ddb Alright, there you go - now explain to me how you were not cheating? P.S. this particular plugin can only detect files in your \data, which ironically, is where all of these cheats must be placed in order for them to work. So kindly explain to me how these cheats were not loaded (literally, explain to me how you managed to get these files to be in your \data folder but NOT load them into Renegade).
fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: hmm, yes, yes what we have here is the equivalent of someone posting a screenshot no one observed me doing anything illegal. your car was searched and a bunch of cocaine was found in the trunk fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: you had cheat files exactly where cheat files go, my dearest derfcow again whatever makes you feel better. i don't need to feel better; all this did was prove your title further i'm fine; you're obviously not because you chose to use cheats it would have helped had you come clean about it; you're in denial and i don't expect you to anytime soon, since it took you literally years to admit to using R-G-H in n00bstories and st0rm (not like we didn't already know that) fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: why do you expect anyone to believe you weren't cheating when you've casually demonstrated in the past how comfortable you actually are with cheating? you just dont read things, In my op on the jelly forums I said I didnt expect anyone to believe me and fully expected a ban anyway. I dont know why I bother. Iv never found anything wrong with cheating in casual non important servers. eg the build servers/noobstories ect. Jelly was the server I never cheated on and I still wont even in the future. using the files you were is considered cheating; they are cheat files n00bstories does not differ much from Jelly Marathon, and we in no way appreciate you claiming to be a Jelly player in any sense of the word fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: you seem to think the ban system was in some way responsible for how you were caught cheating How else was I "caught" lmao certainly not by the same process that covers serial bans as i so clearly stated numerous times already fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: is the plugin that caught you is a separate entity there has been mistakes in the past of many kinds, but i can assure you derfie, this was no mistake the broken record continues... i'm a fixed record, working properly it is actually you that is broken if i didn't know any better i'd say you're just a successful troll i have no problem correcting you though fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: i'm not sure that you understand how much of a proven cheater you are, Quote: the system was updated and the cheats you were using were detected nice update, was it called lockbox? i believe you were forum-banned due to the PM convos that you had with moderators; there was likely no need to allow you to continue posting when you were clearly going to continue lying about it fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: i have reason to believe you were using them for quite a long time Oh please entertain me here! well derfie, it goes like this if i didn't know any better i'd give you the benefit of the doubt, but that's not the case here since i know you've cheated for years in other servers and just recently got caught using cheats on Jelly Marathon why should i believe you haven't been using cheats on Jelly Marathon for months? fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: (considering you have been using cheats for well over two years now) You dont spectate my computer, the times I cheated were less than I can count on both hands. Thats including storm noobstories ect. I dont know what gives you this thinking of your knowing everything but you really dont.. i never claimed to know everything, and i don't honestly think i know everything if i thought i knew everything i would likely try to use my knowledge to win in casinos! the first incident with st0rm was literally years ago; are you trying to dispute my statement of "considering you have been using cheats for well over two years now"? you used R-G-H at least several times in the past few years; do you deny this truth? fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: and that they had just gone unnoticed or unseen until now; smh, you should quit shaking your head and try to be honest here fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 actually no one believes me, and why do you think im furious? Do you really think this whole thing has changed anything except the name I play under? i don't actually believe you still play though, if you did, you'd likely go unnoticed unless you started using aimbot or something like you did in n00bstories and st0rm fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: that's the same for most gaming communities; do you honestly expect every member to join and be active on the forums? i'm not sure what point you're trying to make but i'm sure it made good sense in your head its clearly beyond you. i'm going to assume you're spouting nonsense since you can't back it up in any way, shape, or form if you're going to venture an opinion out there on a matter you should at least be able to back it up fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: Jelly has never expected to be uniform; until of course someone disagrees with you. that's a lie, and i already covered it in my previous post i have no problem with people disagreeing with me, but i hope they have a reason for it there have been many occasions where people with differing opinions changed my mind on them because their reasoning made far more sense than my own fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: for some reason you think everyone is out to get you, No not everyone, just a select few who happen to have the power to keep me out. The majority of ppl Im m8s with are ingame, some on the forums, used to be mods but no real admins/mods as they have changed. you're more than welcome to think that this is just a conspiracy theory to get rid of you because you're an outspoken individual that challenges the mod staff on issues because everyone else is just too afraid to speak up you're quite a mighty hero there derfcow; i hope someone writes an epic poem about you someday that, or you were banned for cheating and are trying entirely way too hard to deny it you would never have been banned had you not been cheating; had it been someone else on that name they would have been banned too because - guess what - they were cheating had it been me i would have been banned and demodded / likely banned from everything Jelly-related fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: as i've said numerous times and will have to continue to repeat until you understand I dont understand anything remember? it's certainly starting to seem that way fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: there's nothing wrong with disagreeing with anything; the fact of the matter is you were completely unable to back up anything you said, and when faced with the truth continued to spout bullshit and lie about topics How can I back something I said when Im banned from the forum to post anything in the first place? When my topic is locked within minutes of me posting it? Why do you ignore these facts? like i mentioned above, your case was discussed with moderators via PM they allowed you the chance to come clean, but since you opted to lie instead they decided to lock the topic the piece of my post that you quoted is referring to your years of being on the Jelly forums, for the record i'm sure it doesn't help your case that people know how thick-headed and unreasonable you are; were you just a random player they would likely be more lenient, but since you're a long-time regular and expected to know better you were probably not given any leniency fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: if you ever encountered resistance for being a dishonest fuck then you shouldn't be so confused as to why ? that's the thing; i don't think you actually realize it when it happens that explains why you're still denying this to the grave some people can't help but lie; they can be caught red-handed shoplifting by a police officer and on video camera and still they lie about it i'm beginning to think you just may be one of those people fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: but, then again, you're derfcow and i almost expect that from you More maturity, your quite the face for jelly. i'm speaking to you as a person, not a moderator you can hold that against me if you'd like, but no one ever said i have to be courteous to you especially not after you've cheated and lied about it in a server i've moderated on and been a part of for years fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: idk if you realize this, but you're a very thick-headed individual How thick? i don't know derfie; is there a way to measure thick-headedness? fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: i'm actually quite open-minded, which is the opposite of what you are Right, your open minded, ask anyone in the world I doubt they will respond with IM pretty closed minded actually... you can ask anyone that's observed you on the Jelly forums and knows what of you that i know; i'm sure you'll get a similar response i spoke on Mumble to a former ren player last night and was going to mention you cheating and getting banned; i said "Remember fredcow?" he said "The annoying retarded guy?" i didn't have to say anything; he came up with that all on his own fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: do you understand? i don't think you do, and that's why i suggested that you might be mentally ill right, continue face of jelly games. And you tried to make yourself to be a fair person. You actually suggested I dont have children, I dont see what type of open minded fair logical person would ever attack a person in such a way. Especially over a video game. it's just my observation, as un-biased as i can make it i'm being completely honest with you the way you're acting after having cheated in a video game is why i said what i said, if you're wondering it has nothing to do with cheating in a video game, though i'm sure a correlation could be made somewhere fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: [color=skyblue]all i said is that it would make perfect sense to me if i found out you were mentally ill; it would explain much what were the signs and symptoms aligned with direct quotes from myself that gave away a certain mental ailment? which ailment specifically? i'm no psychiatrist derfie, and i'm not sure what mental ailment would most fit your description i don't have to quote anything; look at what's happening with this entire situation just put huge quote tags around it fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: are you saying that, because i say you're an idiot for saying idiotic things, that i'm a bad person? i'm merely being honest, or stating the obvious Im saying that you calling me an idiot at all is your own opinion. The extent to which you go to call me an idiot just shows alot about your character. perhaps my character has an issue with ignorant idiots who continue to spew idiocy even after being shown that they're wrong in your case though, i'm accepting that you can't help it and that i should try to be nicer to you fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: you don't encourage people to question your statements or beliefs Where did I not encourage such? i don't recall you ever encouraging people to question you interesting point, however, because you ignored most everything that didn't agree with your position perhaps you think moderators should be more like yourself; that's how you end up with a dictatorship fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: and also, when they do you don't even read or understand it; it goes in one ear and out the other Not a surprising response from someone who thinks im a mentally ill idiot who shouldnt have children. no, it's certainly not you've done nothing to prove otherwise in all the time i've known of you either fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: that has never been my line of thinking; i hope you can back up such an accusation of course it hasnt. i detect a hint of sarcasm! however, this is an accusation that you cannot back up i hope you have the decency to retract your baseless statement; it's essentially a lie i don't expect that of you though derfie fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: i've had several people tell me that i'm an arrogant, cocky asshole that is unreasonable in the end it always turned out to be the people i disliked for legitimate reasons; i'm sorry if the fact that i think you're an idiot shines through in my posts, but it's true No you just go out of your way instead of making a legitimate point youd rather defame someones character. You have really proved this the more you continue to respond naturally. perhaps you can show an example of this; i don't believe it actually happened fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: here's basically what happens: in your mind you have a valid point i read and give everything a fair chance, i really do but nothing you say makes it past that, because it's usually just plain wrong or delusional horse shit Why did you even tell me this? I dont care about your fake "fair chance" you said it all right there "Why did you even tell me this? I dont care" you needn't say more; you've made it quite clear that you don't much care about anything that doesn't agree with you in the first place since the Jelly mod staff doesn't agree with your claim of innocence you don't care about them (even though they're right) fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: all of the garbage you come up with on various issues gets filtered out, as it should So you are admitting to having a previous bias to everything I say. absolutely not; where is this baseless accusation coming from? you have a habit of spouting nonsensical garbage that cannot be supported in any manner in the past i have agreed with you on various issues, though i doubt you remember you can think all you want that i'm a closed-minded, biased individual i know you will anyways, but i would like if you could prove such a thing i'd like to say we both know you can't, but at this point i'm wondering what reality you actually exist in fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: i honestly don't care if people disagree with me about anything; they have every right to but when they can never back it up in any sensible or reasonable way then i don't much value their opinion Seems quite contrary to everything youv said so far. not seeing it please, do tell fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: for example, your opinion could be that "stank rushes on city are not overpowered because GDI gets stanks too" am i supposed to just agree with you because that's your opinion? no, i will not, and i may even call you an idiot for suggesting it gdi cant get stanks too so I really dont get what your getting at here. LOL jesus christ dude, it was an example not sure if trolling or just an idiot fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: [color=skyblue]really? i do a good job backing everything that i say up, You claimed Im mentally ill, shouldnt have children and am a complete idiot, surely youll be able to make a decent evident argument to this since you back everything up so well. i never claimed you are mentally ill; i said i wouldn't be the least bit surprised if you actually were i said i think it would be for the greater good of mankind if you don't reproduce; that's my opinion based off of everything i know of you thus far for all i know you could really be nothing like you portray yourself on the internet and be fooling me good! from what i can tell you're an extremely ignorant, thick-headed individual; i shouldn't have to go back and gather evidence of situations where you did a good job of making yourself look this way you should be able to use this very situation as a good example, rather than trying so hard to maintain your false innocence fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: something you have never done and likely will never do is that my problem? no; what you do is your own business however, don't expect anyone to give you any credibility You may start to notice that its just you here. If I wasnt form banned I could go through many polls topics ect where others thought I was correct I provided evidence ect. Do you really think I NEVER in the history of my existence backed anything up? of course not; where did i say such a thing? there were some times where you tried to back something up, but your reasoning made no sense and was refuted by others' logic or reasoning that didn't seem to matter to you though, because you likely dismissed it or filtered it out because it differed from your own opinion if you really are mentally ill, i'm sorry for giving you such a hard time i had the impression you were just an ignorant assclown on the other side of Lake Michigan fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: did you ever stop to think that, perhaps the way you are, is the reason people dislike you? You mean your social group on jelly? the person that i spoke to isn't even someone i know well; he's a former player and played in Ren-Archive he posted occasionally and knows some people that i do actually know this person, at random, had come to the same conclusion about you that i have are you surprised? fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: it's not that you disagree, though you quite clearly seem to think so i almost think you have a problem with *gasp* being wrong about things The same can be said for you. when i'm wrong about something i have no problem admitting to it you're nothing like me; you cheated and lied about it for years to dozens, if not hundreds, of people and that's about something as silly as using cheats in a computer game; you couldn't even be honest about that fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: you can say the same about me but in all honesty i have no problem admitting when i'm wrong and telling people about it Of course youll say that now. why wouldn't i? it's true just because it doesn't match the picture of me you painted in your head does not make it untrue fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Thats fucked up. You let someone cheat as a joke, yet I havent even been caught cheating and Im banned. Its this hypocrisy that really shows your true colors. the player did not cheat; he put R-G-H in the corner of the screenshot as a joke no one realized it had been a faked screenshot why would i allow anyone to cheat? that's just silly fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: the worst-case scenario is you'll evade and play again and still be terrible despite whatever cheats you choose to run Im not so sure what my gameplay skill levels have to do with cheating. If you think people cheat because they are trying to make up for a lack of skill in a game then your looking at cheating completely wrong. Assume your worst case scenario is in play btw. I dont run cheats. i doubt that, but ok and whether you run cheats now or not is beyond me; you were banned for having and using them at the time that you were banned and now that you've admitted to using *cheat name removed*in communities that have neighbored Jelly you probably aren't very welcome fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: if you cause problems with in-game chat you'll likely get dealt with as would anyone else Jelly Games doesn't discriminate I know how to not be found. by not playing because you're banned for cheating? fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: come see me when you don't have to lie about what you've done and can accept it for what it is You mean come see me when you take my side and accept the cheats you werent using. the coke was in the trunk; you can't rewrite history, no matter how many times you try fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: it took you this long to come clean about cheating in other servers years ago so i don't expect anything anytime soon I came clean about the cheats to many people the moment I did it. Just because you werent one of them doesnt mean anything. You think your supposed to be involved in alot of things but frankly your really not. This is old news, I just publicly released the info for shits and gigs. you likely would have been banned from Jelly a long time ago not once did you do anything remotely suspicious that i can recall in all your time there, and i applaud you for that what makes you think i'm supposed to be involved in anything? this is another pointed statement with no actual basis i hope you can back it up in some way because a handful of people knew about it does not mean that n00bstories or st0rm knew, which is what actually mattered for the record, you were a serious dipshit on both of their forums when the bans came around your little one-line apology in the OP is almost a slap to the face of the people that had to spend their time dealing with your immaturity fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: the most populated server in Renegade dislikes you for cheating on it, which is why you were banned from it For life? Hm so your telling me anyone who is caught using any cheats on jelly is now banned for life? are you just anyone? no, you're not you were a longtime regular, and as such are expected to follow the rules more than just anyone you even participated in inter-community wars (and maybe even a community war or two - i'd have to check to be sure) you also openly cheated on two neighboring communities, and managed to get banned at least once for breaking rules on the Marathon server had you admitted to it like a man you'd likely be unbanned in time, but like a child you chose to deny it exactly like you did at n00bstories and st0rm when you were banned on their servers you were a real prick about that too fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: i'm not sure if you realize that using cheat files is considered cheating (aka bighead, etc.)and that is why you were banned Which for the last time and I wont address this again, I was ok with because said files existed in my folder at the time and so I was ready to accept punishment and own up to having cheat sounding files in my folder. However first response to my ban topic was life ban. You can figure out the rest. that's a half-admission, but not a full one you're so very close! the fact that you, a longtime regular and known player, decided to use cheats is in a way a betrayal if the mod in question decided to give you a lifetime ban it wouldn't be unwarranted were it my call though, it wouldn't be a lifetime ban had you at least admitted to it in the first place fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: i care about Renegade in a fanatical way? tell me, when is the last time i played Renegade derfcow i enjoy the game, and i would like it to continue for as long as it can i fail to see how that makes me a fanatic You seem to get quite worked up over it. Your still replying to my posts for some reason. because someone on the internet was wrong! i'm trying to set the record straight, but in your case the record is broken and i'm likely just wasting my time being reasonable and rational with you fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: again, you were banned for having cheat files in your game folder you were using them as you played; Your staff proved I had files in my folder, no one proved I was using them. This is also the last time Im addressing this because Its annoying. I didnt use any files, none were active and no one can prove I used anything actively because there inst the tineyest shred of proof for it. When someone shows me evidence of my actively using the cheats at the time of this ban or EVER in my history of playing at jelly then ill be as shocked as having the ability to fly. oh dear the fact that they were in there is proof that you were using them; they are active there it's like having a map in the data folder; it's active and on without having to be turned on this excuse is almost as bad as "Steam put R-G-H on my computer" or "MUDKIPS' cat did it" fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: you were cheating nope i'll give you a cookie if you tell the truth! fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: i don't understand why you're denying it; there's no denying what you had Theres no proving what I had, what did I do in game that was fishy/showed I used cheats. All you have are names from a bot. not all cheats are easy to detect you also could have been using them for years and just sucked so badly that no one noticed anything out of the ordinary fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: the fact that you continued to lie about it then (and choose to lie about it now) is likely why you were forum banned Glad to hear an explanation. Though it looks like non mods have more power than the mods there as lurker suggested it and then it happened. Lurker is a former mod, and he's a good guy however, i really doubt that Lurker forum-banned you or was the deciding factor in you being forum-banned fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: i think the world would be better off without people as thick-headed as yourself, and if you not having children could possibly contribute to this notion i think it could only be a good thing You off your soapbox yet? i'm unfamiliar with the expression, but if you understand then great - i don't have to keep explaining it fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: i asked why you think i'm a terrible administrator; are you suggesting that this is so, because i seem to dislike you as an individual and am not courteous and polite to you? Id have to say letting someone run *cheat name removed*and then withholding information seems proof enough right there. If youv done this who knows what else youv done but wont tell anyone about because it might fuck you in the ass? do you have anything other than that, because you were mistaken when you thought i let a player cheat as a joke? the player didn't cheat; again, he edited a screenshot in Paint or Photoshop and put the tag in the corner he was going to put shit on the radar too but i said that was probably unnecessary to be convincing again, i had no idea it would fool so many people a harmless joke turned into a huge ordeal, and i accepted the fault and moved on i wouldn't do anything similar in the future because of how that turned out; my sense of humor is not always modlike fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: why you think certain moderators should be removed, namely ones that have had problems with you in the past (aka dave2916, who banned you for teamkilling and teamhampering based off the words of xxxozxxxx and the corresponding IRC logs proving it) Mike needed to be removed as when he was a trial mod he kicked me for destroying a humvee mass he was busy th'ing with. skeptical is new to the modship and kicked me for 2 weeks for supposedly giving tanks away. scruffy just form banned me because a non moderator told him to. You allowed someone to use *cheat name removed*post a ss, get them in a heat of trouble and didnt say a damn thing. Of course I cant remember years of poor modship incidents specifically so it would be pointless for me to describe them. I dont even know who dave29516 is... dave2916 is skeptical you have no proof whatsoever that Scruffy forum-banned you or his reasoning for it; all you know is that you were forum-banned Mike kicked you for destroying a mass? why are you surprised that that happened? the "banned for two weeks for giving tanks away" doesn't sound familiar to me; was that an error with the bot not letting you back in, or was that the incident where you were teamkilling and xxxozxxxx talked to skeptical about it? i didn't allow a player to use R-G-H, and you misunderstood my post i allowed a player to post a faked R-G-H screenshot, and it ended up being so convincing that he was banned for it the mistake was mine, and i unbanned him and apologized to the moderator both in private and in public fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: you seem to have a real problem with people that have a problem with you, but you're looking at it the wrong way: what you should be considering is that, perhaps, there's a one in a million chance that the fault is actually *gasp* your own I can only think of a handful of people that actually have a problem with me. Its the possession of power they have gained since I started at jelly that has gotten me where I am. so it's because people that dislike you and are biased against you became mods that you are banned now, and not because you used cheats? ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook there derfcow can you show me one time where a player was banned simply because "the mods did not like them"? if you try to cite your own case now then you're not only an idiot, you're also a liar fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: something to think about Thanks dr phil i'm likely hoping for too much when i ask that you be honest instead of lying in this case what's the worst that could happen? the mods would say No guess what we don't give a shit you're staying banned anyways then you could ban evade or whatever made-up shit you said prior to this
liquidv2 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 14:35 Holy fuck Spoony post.
Summary, he's cheated everywhere else but not on our server. If you were banned you deserved it regardless of being caught or not. See how easy was that to sum up? It's our decision on who we let in. You weren't wanted, move on.
You sounded like a true boss in the main topic.. Sounded like the realest person in video games. Then I realized, you were hacking, then I realized you were hacking in "every server but Jelly" - sounds like you just wanted a last shot at getting unbanned from Jelly, but you're an idiot. Here's an idea! Move on from Renegade.. Game has only been out for a decade now..
Quote: your car was searched and a bunch of cocaine was found in the trunk More like baby powder Quote: i don't need to feel better; all this did was prove your title further I have a title? Quote: i'm fine; you're obviously not because you chose to use cheats never knew cheating was related to illnesses. Quote: it would have helped had you come clean about it; What part of banned for life dont you get? Also what part about I didnt cheat dont you get? Quote: you're in denial and i don't expect you to anytime soon, since it took you literally years to admit to using R-G-H in n00bstories and st0rm (not like we didn't already know that) This really shows how little you actually know about noobstories and storm. I never have ever used rgh. Thats just some bullshit. Quote: using the files you were is considered cheating; they are cheat files n00bstories does not differ much from Jelly Marathon, and we in no way appreciate you claiming to be a Jelly player in any sense of the word ? Quote: certainly not by the same process that covers serial bans as i so clearly stated numerous times already so again, not caught doing anything wrong. Quote: i'm a fixed record, working properly Ill notify everyone Quote: it is actually you that is broken wheres the mechanic? Quote: if i didn't know any better i'd say you're just a successful troll i have no problem correcting you though waiting for the first correction. Quote: i believe you were forum-banned due to the PM convos that you had with moderators; there was likely no need to allow you to continue posting when you were clearly going to continue lying about it no, the form ban came when lurker suggested it in the topic. I dont know when the ban took place because I didnt log onto jelly for a few days but when I went to log on I was banned and checking the end topic lurker is who you see. Quote: well derfie, it goes like this if i didn't know any better i'd give you the benefit of the doubt, but that's not the case here The same liquid who stated Id give any other player the benefit of the doubt besides fredcow Quote: since i know you've cheated for years in other servers and just recently got caught using cheats on Jelly Marathon why should i believe you haven't been using cheats on Jelly Marathon for months? Because your faulty in thinking Iv been using cheats straight for years...wow Quote: i never claimed to know everything, and i don't honestly think i know everything if i thought i knew everything i would likely try to use my knowledge to win in casinos! free money yay! Quote: the first incident with st0rm was literally years ago; are you trying to dispute my statement of "considering you have been using cheats for well over two years now"? you used R-G-H at least several times in the past few years; do you deny this truth? Its in massive dispute. Quote: you should quit shaking your head and try to be honest here already was, so the head continues its shaking motion. smh Quote: i don't actually believe you still play though, I dont play in jelly servers Quote: if you did, you'd likely go unnoticed unless you started using aimbot or something like you did in n00bstories and st0rm aimbot, another useless hack. guess youll never know what I was using at the time. [ Quote: color=skyblue]i'm going to assume you're spouting nonsense since you can't back it up in any way, shape, or form you know what they say about assuming Quote: if you're going to venture an opinion out there on a matter you should at least be able to back it up[/color] opinions are opinions...not facts EVER. Quote: that's a lie, and i already covered it in my previous post i have no problem with people disagreeing with me, but i hope they have a reason for it there have been many occasions where people with differing opinions changed my mind on them because their reasoning made far more sense than my own excellent. Quote: you're more than welcome to think that this is just a conspiracy theory to get rid of you because you're an outspoken individual that challenges the mod staff on issues because everyone else is just too afraid to speak up you're quite a mighty hero there derfcow; i hope someone writes an epic poem about you someday maybe they will like the strong bads childrens book. Quote: that, or you were banned for cheating and are trying entirely way too hard to deny it LOL you still think I have reason to deny anything in a neutral forum where I basically told the jelly mods to piss off? Quote: you would never have been banned had you not been cheating; had it been someone else on that name they would have been banned too because - guess what - they were cheating nah, you guys know who I am. Quote: had it been me i would have been banned and demodded / likely banned from everything Jelly-related because as a mod your entrusted with things. as a player your entrusted with nothing, just provided a place to play by some kind people who keep a good server going. Quote: it's certainly starting to seem that way what was the point of that? Quote: like i mentioned above, your case was discussed with moderators via PM they allowed you the chance to come clean, WHAT!? ask scruffy and torn for the pm's post them here and show me the entry point of "comming clean". If I had the chance to lie and say I cheated, I would have. always remember all banned persons get unbanned by telling mods what they want to hear. No one is actually "sorry" or "remorseful" Quote: but since you opted to lie instead they decided to lock the topic Thats not why, I never got a chance to do anything and you know it. Quote: the piece of my post that you quoted is referring to your years of being on the Jelly forums, for the record i'm sure it doesn't help your case that people know how thick-headed and unreasonable you are; were you just a random player they would likely be more lenient, but since you're a long-time regular and expected to know better you were probably not given any leniency Which is what I get for being loyal to a server for almost a decade. I hope the other regulars read that part because thats fucked up. Quote: that's the thing; i don't think you actually realize it when it happens that explains why you're still denying this to the grave No I just didnt see what warrented dishonest fuck in your last post. Quote: some people can't help but lie; they can be caught red-handed shoplifting by a police officer and on video camera and still they lie about it i'm beginning to think you just may be one of those people well Im not. Quote: i'm speaking to you as a person, not a moderator you can hold that against me if you'd like, but no one ever said i have to be courteous to you no but it shows your character Quote: especially not after you've cheated and lied about it in a server i've moderated on and been a part of for years save the semantics. Quote: i don't know derfie; is there a way to measure thick-headedness? your supposedly the thick headed expert. Quote: you can ask anyone that's observed you on the Jelly forums and knows what of you that i know; i'm sure you'll get a similar response only because your an admin, people tell me different things. Quote: i spoke on Mumble to a former ren player last night and was going to mention you cheating and getting banned; i said "Remember fredcow?" he said "The annoying retarded guy?" i didn't have to say anything; he came up with that all on his own cool story, I spoke with many former mod/admins throughout the years (thus how I know what I know about the server) actually on jelly server about just how retarded you and SOME of the other admins are. I never really believed any of them until recently. Quote: it's just my observation, as un-biased as i can make it Quote: i'm being completely honest with you Quote: the way you're acting after having cheated in a video game is why i said what i said, if you're wondering LOL Quote: it has nothing to do with cheating in a video game, though i'm sure a correlation could be made somewhere nah its just your character. Quote: i'm no psychiatrist derfie, and i'm not sure what mental ailment would most fit your description so why would you claim im mentally ill if you dont even know what mentally ill really is? Quote: i don't have to quote anything; look at what's happening with this entire situation there is no situation in case your wondering. Huge Quote: just put huge quote tags around it tags Quote: perhaps my character has an issue with ignorant idiots who continue to spew idiocy even after being shown that they're wrong As stated before, anyone that disagrees with you is an idiot. Quote: in your case though, i'm accepting that you can't help it and that i should try to be nicer to you nice pr Quote: i don't recall you ever encouraging people to question you Its because you dont read my post contents. Quote: interesting point, however, because you ignored most everything that didn't agree with your position funny you did the same. Quote: perhaps you think moderators should be more like yourself; that's how you end up with a dictatorship I do? Quote: no, it's certainly not Quote: you've done nothing to prove otherwise in all the time i've known of you either my interactions with you are done on a basic as possible basis because I know your not one to actually read anything or even note anything that shows your wrong. Why argue with a stone wall? I never interacted with you outside of the public forum. I have been with the forums for many years, the public forums is not where all my conversations take place... Quote: i detect a hint of sarcasm! ding ding ding! Quote: however, this is an accusation that you cannot back up of course Quote: i hope you have the decency to retract your baseless statement; it's essentially a lie how? Quote: i don't expect that of you though derfie shows more about your character. derfie. Quote: perhaps you can show an example of this; i don't believe it actually happened Of course Im down to waste my time. Quote: you said it all right there "Why did you even tell me this? I dont care" If I said it all why did you respond to it? Quote: you needn't say more; you've made it quite clear that you don't much care about anything that doesn't agree with you in the first place No, Iv made it quite clear I dont care about you. Your taking yourself and applying it to everyone else. facepalm. Quote: since the Jelly mod staff doesn't agree with your claim of innocence you don't care about them (even though they're right) would you? Quote: absolutely not; where is this baseless accusation coming from? you have a habit of spouting nonsensical garbage that cannot be supported in any manner wheres the garbage disposal? Quote: in the past i have agreed with you on various issues, though i doubt you remember sure, I know you didnt used to be entirely unreasonable. Quote: you can think all you want that i'm a closed-minded, biased individual why even write that then? Quote: i know you will anyways, but i would like if you could prove such a thing let me waste my time. Quote: i'd like to say we both know you can't, but at this point i'm wondering what reality you actually exist in do you really? Quote: not seeing it please, do tell try some glasses then. Quote: LOL jesus christ dude, it was an example not sure if trolling or just an idiot thats what I was thinking when I read it tbh. Quote: i never claimed you are mentally ill; i said i wouldn't be the least bit surprised if you actually were i said i think it would be for the greater good of mankind if you don't reproduce; that's my opinion based off of everything i know of you thus far Thats pretty fucked up. Quote: for all i know you could really be nothing like you portray yourself on the internet and be fooling me good! Quote: from what i can tell you're an extremely ignorant, thick-headed individual; i shouldn't have to go back and gather evidence of situations where you did a good job of making yourself look this way Do you think I would present myself to you in any other way? Quote: you should be able to use this very situation as a good example, rather than trying so hard to maintain your false innocence theres no innocence to argue about, because I am innocent. Quote: of course not; where did i say such a thing? I dont think you read your own words Quote: something you have never done and likely will never do ^but thats too common in your posts. Quote: there were some times where you tried to back something up, but your reasoning made no sense and was refuted by others' logic or reasoning that didn't seem to matter to you though, because you likely dismissed it or filtered it out because it differed from your own opinion Like your doing right now. Quote: if you really are mentally ill, i'm sorry for giving you such a hard time thats in line with your character. Quote: i had the impression you were just an ignorant assclown on the other side of Lake Michigan impressive. Quote: the person that i spoke to isn't even someone i know well; he's a former player and played in Ren-Archive he posted occasionally and knows some people that i do actually know and that person and the text you speak of will remain anonymous. Quote: this person, at random, had come to the same conclusion about you that i have are you surprised? No, if people dont hate on you then your probably too busy sucking everyones dick to notice how much of a spinless noob you are. Quote: when i'm wrong about something i have no problem admitting to it according to yourself. Quote: you're nothing like me; woah where did I claim something that stupid? Quote: you cheated and lied about it for years to dozens, if not hundreds, of people nah I told about 15 people. 3 immediately after in its progress. Quote: and that's about something as silly as using cheats in a computer game; you couldn't even be honest about that You take this all too seriously. the cheats were used for fun, something it seems you cant have. Quote: why wouldn't i? it's true just because it doesn't match the picture of me you painted in your head does not make it untrue going round in circles. Quote: the player did not cheat; he put R-G-H in the corner of the screenshot as a joke who knows if thats even the truth Quote: no one realized it had been a faked screenshot why would i allow anyone to cheat? that's just silly Well now im uber skeptical of that. Quote: i doubt that, but ok and whether you run cheats now or not is beyond me; you were banned for having and using them at the time that you were banned and now that you've admitted to using *cheat name removed*in communities that have neighbored Jelly you probably aren't very welcome I didnt want to be welcome there, st0rm is a joke and noobstories became a huge joke. jelly is turning into one of those fad jokes on the verge of becoming the joke. Quote: by not playing because you're banned for cheating? oh the naiveness of some people. Quote: the coke was in the trunk; you can't rewrite history, no matter how many times you try the baby powder was in the trunk, some officers apologized but the chiefs of police stood their ground because the mayor would have a fit. Quote: you likely would have been banned from Jelly a long time ago Iv been banned 2 times before. Jelly himself was logical enough to let me back in after an allotted amount of time. again you dont know as much as you think you do Quote: not once did you do anything remotely suspicious that i can recall in all your time there, and i applaud you for that Quote: what makes you think i'm supposed to be involved in anything? this is another pointed statement with no actual basis i hope you can back it up in some way Quote: because a handful of people knew about it does not mean that n00bstories or st0rm knew, which is what actually mattered It was just too funny seeing them squirm about it. If they had gotten the cheat right then sure. But they all didnt even think about the cheats I did use. STILL. Quote: for the record, you were a serious dipshit on both of their forums when the bans came around I know and I feel bad that I got unbanned there. Especially considering I got banned for life without being able to say anything for not even cheating. Quote: your little one-line apology in the OP is almost a slap to the face of the people that had to spend their time dealing with your immaturity You think they dont deserve to know the truth so they can prevent maliciousness to their server in the future? Quote: are you just anyone? no, you're not you were a longtime regular, and as such are expected to follow the rules more than just anyone Thats what I get for supporting a server over the years. Quote: you even participated in inter-community wars (and maybe even a community war or two - i'd have to check to be sure) yes Quote: you also openly cheated on two neighboring communities, and managed to get banned at least once for breaking rules on the Marathon server indeed. Quote: had you admitted to it like a man you'd likely be unbanned in time, no, scruffy made it extremely clear in his pms posts, and locking of topics/forum ban that there was no hope. Quote: but like a child you chose to deny it exactly like you did at n00bstories and st0rm when you were banned on their servers you were a real prick about that too I was egged on to be a prick and see what I could get away with. Getting around their shit isnt hard anyway. Quote: that's a half-admission, but not a full one you're so very close! did you not read any of my posts previous to this one? Quote: the fact that you, a longtime regular and known player, decided to use cheats is in a way a betrayal stabbed in the back! Quote: if the mod in question decided to give you a lifetime ban it wouldn't be unwarranted So I didnt have a chance or I did have a chance? what is it Quote: were it my call though, it wouldn't be a lifetime ban had you at least admitted to it in the first place I would have said whatever satisfied the people at the time, but I didnt even get that. Quote: because someone on the internet was wrong! i'm trying to set the record straight, but in your case the record is broken and i'm likely just wasting my time being reasonable and rational with you as am I Quote: oh dear the fact that they were in there is proof that you were using them; they are active there silly liquid, dont you know how to make them inactive? Or is your stance thats not possible? Quote: it's like having a map in the data folder; it's active and on without having to be turned on that can be done too. Quote: this excuse is almost as bad as "Steam put R-G-H on my computer" or "MUDKIPS' cat did it" why are you constantly involving *cheat name removed*which has NEVER been on my computer ever. Quote: i'll give you a cookie if you tell the truth! looks like youv owed me a cookie since post one. Quote: not all cheats are easy to detect They are actually easier than you think. I worked with jelly to help catch some of the cheats I used in noobstories and st0rm. surprising how little you guys know about these cheats. Quote: you also could have been using them for years and just sucked so badly that no one noticed anything out of the ordinary no, not really Quote: Lurker is a former mod, and he's a good guy however, i really doubt that Lurker forum-banned you or was the deciding factor in you being forum-banned not hard to figure out Quote: i'm unfamiliar with the expression, but if you understand then great - i don't have to keep explaining it It refers when someone gets up to make a speech on a quick object that elevates them from the crowd as to draw attention. They then proceed to make some sort of moving or speech of information. It was sarcasm m8 Quote: do you have anything other than that, because you were mistaken when you thought i let a player cheat as a joke? the player didn't cheat; again, he edited a screenshot in Paint or Photoshop and put the tag in the corner he was going to put shit on the radar too but i said that was probably unnecessary to be convincing again, i had no idea it would fool so many people a harmless joke turned into a huge ordeal, and i accepted the fault and moved on i wouldn't do anything similar in the future because of how that turned out; my sense of humor is not always modlike You know how serious people in this game take cheats, look at the way you regard cheats as only being for sick people who need help to be good at the game. Posting something on that forum like that if your storys true is extremely fishy. I believe you, im not that unreasonable but surely you see the baseless accusation I just made as ludicrous? thats what Im going through. Your guilty for allowing cheats in your server as much as I am guilty of cheating in your server. Quote: dave2916 is skeptical you have no proof whatsoever that Scruffy forum-banned you or his reasoning for it; here you go Quote: Yes remove him forever scruffy... Ban him from forums too He still not sending a link of the skinpack. Quote: It's already gotten hits on a few regular players... and with that. Fredcow is permabanned, this topic is locked. liquid I know more about how you guys work than you may think. I know about the mod forums ect ect. their channels. maybe scruffy didnt make it happen but its hard to doubt given the 2 quotes above are the ONLY clues I have since I cant even log in to check any pms Quote: all you know is that you were forum-banned Mike kicked you for destroying a mass? why are you surprised that that happened? he was th with the mass and was a half mod. Quote: the "banned for two weeks for giving tanks away" doesn't sound familiar to me; was that an error with the bot not letting you back in, or was that the incident where you were teamkilling and xxxozxxxx talked to skeptical about it? This was when I supposedly gave 2 tanks away and as a result received 2 weeks in ban time. Maybe you actually arent as unreasonable as I thought and legitimately just dont know about the things Im saying. Quote: i didn't allow a player to use R-G-H, and you misunderstood my post I got it. Quote: i allowed a player to post a faked R-G-H screenshot, and it ended up being so convincing that he was banned for it the mistake was mine, and i unbanned him and apologized to the moderator both in private and in public excellent. Quote: so it's because people that dislike you and are biased against you became mods that you are banned now, skeptical banned me for 2 weeks. I had run in with him as a trial mod scruffy didnt used to be an admin, he was just a mod and he never took much of a shine to me, Im banned by him. rice back in the day cried up and down I needed to be banned to mods and got me banned. I dont have this attitude towards bad modship for no reason. Its developed as a result of my treatment over all this time. Quote: and not because you used cheats? ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook there derfcow glad we understand each other. Quote: can you show me one time where a player was banned simply because "the mods did not like them"? yea let me go through and read every single ban topic and figure that out. Quote: if you try to cite your own case now then you're not only an idiot, you're also a liar lol why would I cite myself? Quote: i'm likely hoping for too much when i ask that you be honest instead of lying in this case liquid it goes like this. I have friends at jelly, some of them mods, ex mods, not mods. I tell them and trust some of them with information. You have never been in that group which is why you seem to have everything confused about things that happened in the past. This case right here, specifically is a I dont give a fuck case. Its the type of case where Im not going to lie but tell everything exactly as it is. you can believe that or you can simply not believe it. Its really as simple as that. Quote: what's the worst that could happen? the mods would say No guess what we don't give a shit you're staying banned anyways I know how mods work and their attitudes. scruffy gave me the first warn I had btw, then gave me a second warn for posting too much after forgetting about that first warn (it had been a while) His quick decisive response of your banned forever and locking the topic immediately only showed there was no chance dude. I dont know where your getting this idea I could have "come clean" (though I came clean about everything in these past posts) Quote: then you could ban evade or whatever made-up shit you said prior to this I just play in jelly here and there now, its not ban evading because Im not even rightfully banned with proof.
I like how he ignored my post because it actually contained something related to the fact he keeps blatantly denying
If you ever mapch mine, look for GTFOmyPC.txt.
fredcow, send me the links to the files in a PM, or put them in a zipfile up on mediafire or something like that, and let me look at them.
shaitan wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 19:29 If you ever mapch mine, look for GTFOmyPC.txt. if anyone looked at your computer they would be overwhelmed by the amount of gay porn
liquidv2 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 18:56 shaitan wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 19:29 If you ever mapch mine, look for GTFOmyPC.txt. if anyone looked at your computer they would be overwhelmed by the amount of gay porn Bitch I will fucking end you. *twiztid's voice on TS*
tell him to talk to duck on TS duck keeps trying to get me to watch stupid videos with him; i really don't want to have twiztid babysit him, it's not my job lol that or you should do it
So..... iS iRan banned now?
Ethenal wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 16:25 (&JellyMarathon) [CHEAT] therefhop has file w_ionb_closed.w3d (&JellyMarathon) [CHEAT] therefhop has file nukeemitter.w3d (&JellyMarathon) [CHEAT] therefhop has file ionemitter.w3d (&JellyMarathon) [CHEAT] therefhop has file MandaiNoScreenShake.ddb P.S. this particular plugin can only detect files in your \data, w You can search in any folder by adding file paths to the file name, for example ".\\some.dll" would search in the renegade folder, not the renegade\data folder.
Iran* what would Iran be banned for, fredcow9 using cheat files?
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 More like baby powder fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 I have a title? you are derfcow, if i'm not mistaken fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 never knew cheating was related to illnesses. who said it is? i wouldn't be surprised though if people that are more likely to cheat have other tendencies as well might just be a symptom of a bigger problem not sure how cheaters that continuously lie about it fit into that though fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 What part of banned for life dont you get? Also what part about I didnt cheat dont you get? using cheat files is cheating; do you understand this concept? what did your initial ban post say? did you deny that you had actually cheated within it? fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 This really shows how little you actually know about noobstories and storm. I never have ever used rgh. Thats just some bullshit. fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 so again, not caught doing anything wrong. fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: i have no problem correcting you though waiting for the first correction. there have been several; you're either not reading, or you're not comprehending fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 no, the form ban came when lurker suggested it in the topic. I dont know when the ban took place because I didnt log onto jelly for a few days but when I went to log on I was banned and checking the end topic lurker is who you see. this is proof that Lurker is the reason you were forum banned? that's some nice proof you got there, i dare say why don't you just openly ask here why you were forum banned if you want a straight answer? fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 The same liquid who stated Id give any other player the benefit of the doubt besides fredcow you interpreted my wording incorrectly, and even tried to make a signature defaming me i didn't care in the slightest because you're an idiot and no one takes you seriously what i meant was, were you someone that i didn't know to be an idiot, i'd be far more likely to take what you said into consideration since i've observed you for years now there was no reason for me to assume you simply "did not know any better" or had just made a mistake you are responsible for your own actions; you broke a rule, and you were punished for it there's no chance i was going to believe you over another player's testimony that i trust far more than your own and coinciding IRC logs fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Because your faulty in thinking Iv been using cheats straight for years...wow i never said that i did say, however, that i wouldn't be the least bit surprised if you had and that you'd been using cheats for years, having cheated in multiple servers numerous times in the last two or more years i'm not sure you get the connection, but it's quite simple fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: the first incident with st0rm was literally years ago; are you trying to dispute my statement of "considering you have been using cheats for well over two years now"? you used R-G-H at least several times in the past few years; do you deny this truth? Its in massive dispute. it is? fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: you should quit shaking your head and try to be honest here already was, so the head continues its shaking motion. smh fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: i don't actually believe you still play though, I dont play in jelly servers you've stated several times that you have or still do currently by ban evading; you're lying in at least one of these statements i wish you'd be honest and stop being a liar in this situation fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 aimbot, another useless hack. guess youll never know what I was using at the time. guess you're still a cheating faggot, and at this point it really doesn't matter what you were using you're terrible and have always been terrible at this game; the only way you could get a rise out of people was using cheats to beat them you're a truly pathetic person derfcow you must feel a sense of pride when you say you've never cheated in Jelly Servers, enough to lie to yourself about it at the very least, enough to lie to everyone else here about it fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: i'm going to assume you're spouting nonsense since you can't back it up in any way, shape, or form you know what they say about assuming you know what they say, derfcow says a lot of shit he can't back up and has no credibility fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: if you're going to venture an opinion out there on a matter you should at least be able to back it up opinions are opinions...not facts EVER. solid opinions are supported by facts; that's why a lot of your opinions are laughable, to say the least fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: that, or you were banned for cheating and are trying entirely way too hard to deny it LOL you still think I have reason to deny anything in a neutral forum where I basically told the jelly mods to piss off? why would you tell the Jelly mods to piss off? they're just doing their jobs, catching and banning cheaters from their servers you should thank them for doing such a good job here fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: you would never have been banned had you not been cheating; had it been someone else on that name they would have been banned too because - guess what - they were cheating nah, you guys know who I am. ...? you were banned for using cheats, nothing else you can keep telling yourself otherwise if it makes you feel better, but no one but you believes it fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: had it been me i would have been banned and demodded / likely banned from everything Jelly-related[/color] because as a mod your entrusted with things. as a player your entrusted with nothing, just provided a place to play by some kind people who keep a good server going. i'm aware; i'm explaining that things happen to people when they cheat in your case you were banned for it not because you're fredcow9 and people know you, but because you were cheating even an admin is not exempt from cheating that's the point i'm making; you seem to understand that, but you're not grasping the part about you being banned because you cheated fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: it's certainly starting to seem that way what was the point of that? i'm saying i think you're a fucking moron and that i'm probably wasting my time talking to you fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 WHAT!? ask scruffy and torn for the pm's post them here and show me the entry point of "comming clean". If I had the chance to lie and say I cheated, I would have. always remember all banned persons get unbanned by telling mods what they want to hear. No one is actually "sorry" or "remorseful" i disagree with you on that, but i understand why you likely think that fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: but since you opted to lie instead they decided to lock the topic Thats not why, I never got a chance to do anything and you know it. i think the mods expected you to come clean and not act oblivious or deny it; since you didn't come clean they must have realized you were wasting their time and cut your topic off you're still denying it even now, so i'd say they made the right decision you're not worth their time, nor mine i'm merely setting the record straight for anyone else that cares to read into it fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: the piece of my post that you quoted is referring to your years of being on the Jelly forums, for the record i'm sure it doesn't help your case that people know how thick-headed and unreasonable you are; were you just a random player they would likely be more lenient, but since you're a long-time regular and expected to know better you were probably not given any leniency[/color] Which is what I get for being loyal to a server for almost a decade. I hope the other regulars read that part because thats fucked up. you were around for half a decade at most if you're so loyal to the server why did you cheat on it? fuck you lmao you expect people to turn a blind eye and pretend you're not annoying and retarded? why would they do that? you have a strange sense of entitlement here; i'm not sure what you feel you're entitled to but it clearly upsets you that you're not getting it Princess Derfcow got banished from the kingdom fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: that's the thing; i don't think you actually realize it when it happens that explains why you're still denying this to the grave No I just didnt see what warrented dishonest fuck in your last post. gee, let me think i've typed page after page of text out to you, being reasonable and honest you're still lying to me, accusing me of numerous things you can't back up in the slightest, and still not in the least bit sorry for all the bullshit you cause for both st0rm and n00bstories when you chose to cheat on their servers you are a dishonest fuck; that's just the way it is fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: some people can't help but lie; they can be caught red-handed shoplifting by a police officer and on video camera and still they lie about it i'm beginning to think you just may be one of those people well Im not. if you were that's exactly the answer i'd expect from you fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: i'm speaking to you as a person, not a moderator you can hold that against me if you'd like, but no one ever said i have to be courteous to you no but it shows your character i dislike ignorant people it clearly shows through with you fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: especially not after you've cheated and lied about it in a server i've moderated on and been a part of for years save the semantics. eat a dick fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: i don't know derfie; is there a way to measure thick-headedness? your supposedly the thick headed expert. fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: you can ask anyone that's observed you on the Jelly forums and knows what of you that i know; i'm sure you'll get a similar response only because your an admin, people tell me different things. if you say so i'm actually curious as to which people think highly of you in any manner fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: i spoke on Mumble to a former ren player last night and was going to mention you cheating and getting banned; i said "Remember fredcow?" he said "The annoying retarded guy?" i didn't have to say anything; he came up with that all on his own cool story, I spoke with many former mod/admins throughout the years (thus how I know what I know about the server) actually on jelly server about just how retarded you and SOME of the other admins are. I never really believed any of them until recently. people are entitled to their own opinions if there's evidence to show i'm retarded i'd like to see it simple proof that you're an annoying retarded guy: you cheated on multiple servers and lied about it for years that's both annoying and retarded fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: it has nothing to do with cheating in a video game, though i'm sure a correlation could be made somewhere nah its just your character. you seem to be upset that i'm not courteous to you is there some reason i should be? fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: i'm no psychiatrist derfie, and i'm not sure what mental ailment would most fit your description so why would you claim im mentally ill if you dont even know what mentally ill really is? what the fuck? where did you come up with that bullshit lmao fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: i don't have to quote anything; look at what's happening with this entire situation there is no situation in case your wondering. fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: perhaps my character has an issue with ignorant idiots who continue to spew idiocy even after being shown that they're wrong As stated before, anyone that disagrees with you is an idiot. that's quite a statement to make about me, and it's dishonest at best i don't think anyone that disagrees with me about anything is an idiot; just because i think you're an idiot and i also disagree with you on many things does not mean i think anyone that disagrees with me about anything is an idiot what an irrational conclusion you've arrived at derfie fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: i don't recall you ever encouraging people to question you Its because you dont read my post contents. you know what? i did, but now i wish i hadn't fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: interesting point, however, because you ignored most everything that didn't agree with your position funny you did the same. that's quite untrue fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: perhaps you think moderators should be more like yourself; that's how you end up with a dictatorship I do? i don't know; do you? fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: you've done nothing to prove otherwise in all the time i've known of you either my interactions with you are done on a basic as possible basis because I know your not one to actually read anything or even note anything that shows your wrong. Why argue with a stone wall? I never interacted with you outside of the public forum. I have been with the forums for many years, the public forums is not where all my conversations take place... this is a bit of projection on your part (i'm sure you've taken a psych class at some point) fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: however, this is an accusation that you cannot back up of course fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: i hope you have the decency to retract your baseless statement; it's essentially a lie how? by admit you were wrong in making it in the first place admitting when you're wrong is not something i can see you doing easily fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: i don't expect that of you though derfie shows more about your character. derfie. i dislike ignorant people you've made an ass of yourself on numerous occasions; instead of simply calling you fredcow, i now call you derfcow if you were, say, kims or some other regular that wasn't an annoying idiot or known cheater i likely wouldn't give you a nickname like that fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: perhaps you can show an example of this; i don't believe it actually happened Of course Im down to waste my time. you like to make grand statements, but you're not good at backing them up in any way you've made several statements about me that you can in no way prove, but rather than retract them i'm sure you'll cling to them dearly as if they were fact fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: you said it all right there "Why did you even tell me this? I dont care" If I said it all why did you respond to it? i'm setting the record straight for anyone that cares to read into this all they have to do is see what i'm saying, which is that you say many things that you can in no way back up you "just write baseless dumb shit" as someone else put it fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: you needn't say more; you've made it quite clear that you don't much care about anything that doesn't agree with you in the first place No, Iv made it quite clear I dont care about you. Your taking yourself and applying it to everyone else. facepalm. so what you're saying is that, because you don't care about me, that you ignore what i say even when it's right and shows that you're wrong i think the reason you grew to dislike me in the first place though was a result of me growing frustrated at how thick-headed and ignorant you are whatever you say derfie fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: since the Jelly mod staff doesn't agree with your claim of innocence you don't care about them (even though they're right) [/color] would you? why wouldn't i? if i cheated and got banned i wouldn't just not care what they had to say because it disagreed with my own claim of innocence fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: absolutely not; where is this baseless accusation coming from? you have a habit of spouting nonsensical garbage that cannot be supported in any manner wheres the garbage disposal? clever comments to dodge the fact that you spew more bullshit than a bovine fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: in the past i have agreed with you on various issues, though i doubt you remember sure, I know you didnt used to be entirely unreasonable. interesting; so anyone that doesn't agree with you is entirely unreasonable? fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: you can think all you want that i'm a closed-minded, biased individual why even write that then? i'm demonstrating that i'm not, to anyone that cares to read into your case you're making false statements trying to defame me, but it's just more derfcowshit fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: i know you will anyways, but i would like if you could prove such a thing let me waste my time. derfcowshit fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: i'd like to say we both know you can't, but at this point i'm wondering what reality you actually exist in[/color] do you really? i'm curious as to what a world would look like in which fredcow9 was always right fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: not seeing it please, do tell [/color] try some glasses then. lolderfcowshit fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: LOL jesus christ dude, it was an example not sure if trolling or just an idiot thats what I was thinking when I read it tbh. the fact that i've proven you wrong multiple times and you have yet to prove me wrong even once about anything gives you the impression that i'm simply trolling you? ok derfie "i know you are, but what am i?" you've tried that several times in this topic, by the way fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: i never claimed you are mentally ill; i said i wouldn't be the least bit surprised if you actually were i said i think it would be for the greater good of mankind if you don't reproduce; that's my opinion based off of everything i know of you thus far Thats pretty fucked up. it's not the nicest thing to say to a person, but hey - i'm at least being honest with you fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: from what i can tell you're an extremely ignorant, thick-headed individual; i shouldn't have to go back and gather evidence of situations where you did a good job of making yourself look this way Do you think I would present myself to you in any other way? it's not just me that sees this derfie fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: you should be able to use this very situation as a good example, rather than trying so hard to maintain your false innocence [/color] theres no innocence to argue about, because I am innocent. that's funny; you had the same stance when accused of cheating on both n00bstories and st0rm and as it turned out you were cheating on both of those servers pardon me for not believing you now, especially when there's evidence showing otherwise fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: of course not; where did i say such a thing? I dont think you read your own words dodge cuz more derfcowshit fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: there were some times where you tried to back something up, but your reasoning made no sense and was refuted by others' logic or reasoning that didn't seem to matter to you though, because you likely dismissed it or filtered it out because it differed from your own opinion Like your doing right now. what, i'm supposed to take you at your word when you're a known cheater and past liar on several occasions? fuck you, that's ridiculous the difference is i examined your opinion and your story and judged it by logic and reason; what you said was countered numerous times by different people, and you still cite it as truth even after being proven wrong textbook derfcow fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: if you really are mentally ill, i'm sorry for giving you such a hard time thats in line with your character. yes; i'm not one to blame others for things they cannot help i don't think that's the case with you, though if it were i would likely feel terrible fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: the person that i spoke to isn't even someone i know well; he's a former player and played in Ren-Archive he posted occasionally and knows some people that i do actually know and that person and the text you speak of will remain anonymous. i'll ask him next time i talk to him if he minds me telling you who he is, if you care to know fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: this person, at random, had come to the same conclusion about you that i have are you surprised?[/color] No, if people dont hate on you then your probably too busy sucking everyones dick to notice how much of a spinless noob you are. i suppose you mean spineless i'm a spineless noob? i'm neither spineless nor a noob, but you're welcome to think that why do you think everyone would hate on me if they weren't too busy sucking each other's dicks? because i'm not courteous to you? i don't see a reason i should be, especially at this point if you feel i'm a dick to you that's ok with me; i don't feel it's unwarranted perhaps you're a bit oblivious, but i don't talk to everyone the way i do to you i respect almost all people derfie fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: when i'm wrong about something i have no problem admitting to it according to yourself. what are you trying to say, that i don't admit when i'm wrong? feel free to show when that's ever happened you're welcome to think whatever you want to think, but if you can in no way, shape, or form back it up you shouldn't expect anyone else to agree with you in this case it's unsurprisingly more derfcowshit fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: you're nothing like me; woah where did I claim something that stupid? it was implied, in what you said you described something far closer to me than you realize or will or can admit to yourself i, however, am honest fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: you cheated and lied about it for years to dozens, if not hundreds, of people nah I told about 15 people. 3 immediately after in its progress. the rest of the st0rm and n00bstories communities numbered hundreds, if not thousands, of players you lied to all of them in your posts on their forums fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: and that's about something as silly as using cheats in a computer game; you couldn't even be honest about that You take this all too seriously. the cheats were used for fun, something it seems you cant have. because i don't think cheating to piss people off is fun means fun is something i can't have? nice logic there derfcow where do you come up with this shit lol fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: the player did not cheat; he put R-G-H in the corner of the screenshot as a joke who knows if thats even the truth i told him the specific numbers to put after the letters and that's what he did just sayin fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: no one realized it had been a faked screenshot why would i allow anyone to cheat? that's just silly[/color] Well now im uber skeptical of that. you're skeptical of the fact that i wouldn't allow anyone to cheat because you mistakenly believed i did? if you say so derfcow i have morals, something it seems you have a clearly different idea of fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: i doubt that, but ok and whether you run cheats now or not is beyond me; you were banned for having and using them at the time that you were banned and now that you've admitted to using *cheat name removed*in communities that have neighbored Jelly you probably aren't very welcome I didnt want to be welcome there, st0rm is a joke and noobstories became a huge joke. jelly is turning into one of those fad jokes on the verge of becoming the joke. why, because its moderators banned you for using cheat files and kicked you for team hampering in the past? or do you have any other reasoning behind it that same logic is like saying "I went into a restaurant and took a big shit on the floor because I don't care about it and didn't want to be welcome there" i'd say you're a douchebag, and it would be fully supported fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: by not playing because you're banned for cheating? oh the naiveness of some people. i thought you said you don't play in Jelly servers, Marathon being one of them what is it derfcow; you play and don't play at the same time? fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: the coke was in the trunk; you can't rewrite history, no matter how many times you try the baby powder was in the trunk, some officers apologized but the chiefs of police stood their ground because the mayor would have a fit. they mayor wouldn't stand for it if it were wrong that's the difference how would the mayor know this if there were nothing to prove it? fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: you likely would have been banned from Jelly a long time ago Iv been banned 2 times before. Jelly himself was logical enough to let me back in after an allotted amount of time. again you dont know as much as you think you do i bet Jelly himself wishes he hadn't, after hearing you cheated in neighboring servers and lied about it for years and what were you banned for those past two times? fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: what makes you think i'm supposed to be involved in anything? this is another pointed statement with no actual basis i hope you can back it up in some way fredcowshit fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: because a handful of people knew about it does not mean that n00bstories or st0rm knew, which is what actually mattered It was just too funny seeing them squirm about it. If they had gotten the cheat right then sure. But they all didnt even think about the cheats I did use. STILL. fucking loser fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: your little one-line apology in the OP is almost a slap to the face of the people that had to spend their time dealing with your immaturity[/color] You think they dont deserve to know the truth so they can prevent maliciousness to their server in the future? have you told them the truth? you claim they don't know what cheats you used (as stated in the above quote) if that's true then what point are you trying to make? what i'm saying is i think you should more properly apologize to both of those communities for being a used tampon fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: are you just anyone? no, you're not you were a longtime regular, and as such are expected to follow the rules more than just anyone Thats what I get for supporting a server over the years. i like to think someone that supports a server wouldn't use cheats on that server you have a fucked up way of showing support you, like anyone else, got banned for cheating after being found cheating as i explained even an admin would have the same happen to them admins also support the community, so i'm not sure what point you're trying to make fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: had you admitted to it like a man you'd likely be unbanned in time, no, scruffy made it extremely clear in his pms posts, and locking of topics/forum ban that there was no hope. was this before or after you didn't initially come clean in your ban topic? fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: but like a child you chose to deny it exactly like you did at n00bstories and st0rm when you were banned on their servers you were a real prick about that too I was egged on to be a prick and see what I could get away with. Getting around their shit isnt hard anyway. the way you acted was disrespectful and uncalled for especially since you were lying your ass off to them that must have given you a huge boner some people's kids fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: that's a half-admission, but not a full one you're so very close! did you not read any of my posts previous to this one? yes, unfortunately they still show that you maintain your innocence some of your prior posts show obvious lies in your story you failed to address posts by others when they called you out on it, however fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: the fact that you, a longtime regular and known player, decided to use cheats is in a way a betrayal stabbed in the back! more like being spat in the face of had it been a player that wasn't known to be an annoying retard your ban likely wouldn't have been permanent or stated as permanent fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: if the mod in question decided to give you a lifetime ban it wouldn't be unwarranted So I didnt have a chance or I did have a chance? what is it i think your best chance would have been to come clean right away even now you're not doing that so i suppose that wasn't an option fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: were it my call though, it wouldn't be a lifetime ban had you at least admitted to it in the first place I would have said whatever satisfied the people at the time, but I didnt even get that. idk; knowing your prior history with cheating on other servers (it wasn't proven at the time, since you hadn't publicly stated it) they might not have believed you that, and your history of team hampering and douchebaggery point to the contrary fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: because someone on the internet was wrong! i'm trying to set the record straight, but in your case the record is broken and i'm likely just wasting my time being reasonable and rational with you as am I reasonable and rational - if to you that means making up a bunch of statements you can't actually back up in the slightest fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: oh dear the fact that they were in there is proof that you were using them; they are active there silly liquid, dont you know how to make them inactive? Or is your stance thats not possible? you'd have to get a Black-Intel person to clear you on that i truly don't believe you, but i'm open to anyone trying to change my mind fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: it's like having a map in the data folder; it's active and on without having to be turned on that can be done too. Quote: this excuse is almost as bad as "Steam put R-G-H on my computer" or "MUDKIPS' cat did it" [/color] why are you constantly involving *cheat name removed*which has NEVER been on my computer ever. doubt that fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: i'll give you a cookie if you tell the truth! looks like youv owed me a cookie since post one. it looks like it? where? to me it looks like i don't owe you shit you're welcome to try and change my mind, though fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: not all cheats are easy to detect They are actually easier than you think. I worked with jelly to help catch some of the cheats I used in noobstories and st0rm. surprising how little you guys know about these cheats. fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: you also could have been using them for years and just sucked so badly that no one noticed anything out of the ordinary no, not really it's possible fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: Lurker is a former mod, and he's a good guy however, i really doubt that Lurker forum-banned you or was the deciding factor in you being forum-banned not hard to figure out you assume too much, something you told me i shouldn't do fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 You know how serious people in this game take cheats, look at the way you regard cheats as only being for sick people who need help to be good at the game. Posting something on that forum like that if your storys true is extremely fishy. I believe you, im not that unreasonable but surely you see the baseless accusation I just made as ludicrous? thats what Im going through. Your guilty for allowing cheats in your server as much as I am guilty of cheating in your server. you originally said i'm a terrible admin, but the only thing you're trying to cite now is something i said afterwards the worst that can be said of all that is i made a highly inappropriate joke to answer my question: no, you have nothing derfcowshit is quickly filling up the topic fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: dave2916 is skeptical you have no proof whatsoever that Scruffy forum-banned you or his reasoning for it; here you go Quote: Yes remove him forever scruffy... Ban him from forums too He still not sending a link of the skinpack. Quote: It's already gotten hits on a few regular players... and with that. Fredcow is permabanned, this topic is locked. liquid I know more about how you guys work than you may think. I know about the mod forums ect ect. their channels. maybe scruffy didnt make it happen but its hard to doubt given the 2 quotes above are the ONLY clues I have since I cant even log in to check any pms i don't doubt that Scruffy was the one that placed the forum ban what makes you think he only did it because Lurker suggested it? Scruffy is unable to make his own decisions? if you say so fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: all you know is that you were forum-banned Mike kicked you for destroying a mass? why are you surprised that that happened? he was th with the mass and was a half mod. making a mass is not team hampering blowing a mass up is team hampering glad i could clear that up for you fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: the "banned for two weeks for giving tanks away" doesn't sound familiar to me; was that an error with the bot not letting you back in, or was that the incident where you were teamkilling and xxxozxxxx talked to skeptical about it? This was when I supposedly gave 2 tanks away and as a result received 2 weeks in ban time. Maybe you actually arent as unreasonable as I thought and legitimately just dont know about the things Im saying. oh; this must have been the incident prior to the one with xxxozxxxx then i vaguely remember that fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: i didn't allow a player to use R-G-H, and you misunderstood my post I got it. no, you didn't; you believed i allowed a player to cheat to make a joke i did no such thing, and under no circumstances would i fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: so it's because people that dislike you and are biased against you became mods that you are banned now, skeptical banned me for 2 weeks. I had run in with him as a trial mod scruffy didnt used to be an admin, he was just a mod and he never took much of a shine to me, Im banned by him. rice back in the day cried up and down I needed to be banned to mods and got me banned. I dont have this attitude towards bad modship for no reason. Its developed as a result of my treatment over all this time. being punished for doing wrong deeds is unfair treatment in your eyes? i'm sorry; i don't understand the logic behind this are you suggesting that you're above punishment for wrongdoings? fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: can you show me one time where a player was banned simply because "the mods did not like them"? yea let me go through and read every single ban topic and figure that out. wait a minute; you've (what Spoony calls) moved the goalposts here it went from "banning a player because they don't like them" to "keeping a cheater banned because they don't like them" that would be relatively hard to prove; why aren't the players being kept banned because of the cheating? how can you prove otherwise? fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: if you try to cite your own case now then you're not only an idiot, you're also a liar[/color] lol why would I cite myself? because you have nothing else fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: i'm likely hoping for too much when i ask that you be honest instead of lying in this case liquid it goes like this. I have friends at jelly, some of them mods, ex mods, not mods. I tell them and trust some of them with information. You have never been in that group which is why you seem to have everything confused about things that happened in the past. This case right here, specifically is a I dont give a fuck case. Its the type of case where Im not going to lie but tell everything exactly as it is. you can believe that or you can simply not believe it. Its really as simple as that. what you say makes no sense, so why would i believe it? you've been proven wrong but still maintain that you are right only one of us can be right here, and the evidence isn't pointing towards you fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: what's the worst that could happen? the mods would say No guess what we don't give a shit you're staying banned anyways I know how mods work and their attitudes. scruffy gave me the first warn I had btw, then gave me a second warn for posting too much after forgetting about that first warn (it had been a while) His quick decisive response of your banned forever and locking the topic immediately only showed there was no chance dude. I dont know where your getting this idea I could have "come clean" (though I came clean about everything in these past posts) you've continued to deny cheating i don't believe that's the truth, and neither does he there's no evidence to suggest that you are innocent you're continuing to maintain your innocence, and your story doesn't add up your initial post should have been an apology and an admission, but since it wasn't (and still is not) he chose to lock your topic fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: then you could ban evade or whatever made-up shit you said prior to this I just play in jelly here and there now, its not ban evading because Im not even rightfully banned with proof. textbook derfcow feel free to prove how i'm a bad administrator, and anything else i asked you to provide evidence of if you even can
shaitan wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 17:29 If you ever mapch mine, look for GTFOmyPC.txt. It's actually quite funny. This whole "New cheat detection thing" at Jelly. That we've been running at TmX since last year or the year before, I forget. At least Blacky did one thing right.
SPOONY, YOU HAVE BEEN OUTDONE. New renememe for liquid with size 0.001 font inc. Also Derfcow, fuck you.
ehhh wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 04:35 shame tmx is terrible though. how can they be terrible when they have pro mods like hoh mikey playing there?????? this thread is starting to get sadder than the atheists thread lol
I was playing they today, owning that relax guy, then suddenly he starts warping from one wall to the other, terrible server.
you mean like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ot5_JtHPtQ ?
worse then that, literally wall to wall, just outside the gdi spawn in complex.
Azazel wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 07:27 shaitan wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 17:29 If you ever mapch mine, look for GTFOmyPC.txt. It's actually quite funny. This whole "New cheat detection thing" at Jelly. That we've been running at TmX since last year or the year before, I forget. At least Blacky did one thing right. I know Matrix had it for a long time, sorry we didn't want to just blurt it out what it was. Too late now.
ehhh wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 06:04 worse then that, literally wall to wall, just outside the gdi spawn in complex. well i was recording at 25 fps so it actually looked if its possible to hit that guy
T0RN wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 07:05 Azazel wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 07:27 shaitan wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 17:29 If you ever mapch mine, look for GTFOmyPC.txt. It's actually quite funny. This whole "New cheat detection thing" at Jelly. That we've been running at TmX since last year or the year before, I forget. At least Blacky did one thing right. I know Matrix had it for a long time, sorry we didn't want to just blurt it out what it was. Too late now. In Jello's defense(if I remember right) there wasn't a whole lot that'd work with that one. They had some issues getting it to work. Not all a/c's work with certain fds modifications. They weren't lazy.
liquidv2 wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 08:49 Iran* what would Iran be banned for, fredcow9 using cheat files? Maybe for providing Cheats to PPL that play on ur Server?
liquidv2 wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 08:49 what would TLS-DJ-EYE-K be banned for? -TLS-DJ-EYE-K wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 13:52 Maybe for providing Ccheats to PPL people that play on ur your Sserver? You should be banned for being unable to spell simple words. I fixed your post for you, by the way. You're welcome. /Dipshit
U can go DIAF Douchebag.
-TLS-DJ-EYE-K wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 15:16 U You can go DIAF Ddouchebag. I fixed that for you too. Also, in what universe is "go die in a fire" an appropriate response to being called a dipshit? /Dipshit.
iRANian wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 13:59 you mean like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ot5_JtHPtQ ? You can see the warp but you should use free aim
Iran didn't make the player do anything; it was his choice, and he chose to both get the cheat and use it he could have used it on single player; would you suggest i ban Iran had that been what happened? Iran is not responsible for what others do lol what part of "the player asked Iran for cheats in the first place" do you not understand? are you saying nothing should have happened to that player?
liquidv2 wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 23:19 Iran didn't make the player do anything; it was his choice, and he chose to both get the cheat and use it he could have used it on single player; would you suggest i ban Iran had that been what happened? Iran is not responsible for what others do lol what part of "the player asked Iran for cheats in the first place" do you not understand? are you saying nothing should have happened to that player? So in ur Opinion it is ok to handle out Cheats to Players if u get asked at ur Forums? Good to know =)
no it's not; Iran spoke to me about it beforehand it became a sting operation, and the only reason he went ahead with it was i told him to see what the player would do there was always the chance the player would turn away Iran likely saved the mods a lot of trouble from trying to catch the player in the end it was the player's choice to get and use cheats, not Iran's or anyone else's
don't worry he's not running any scripts so he learned his lesson and downloaded rgh
Liquid, that's a warped way of thinking.
it would be if Iran approached the player first and said Hey buddy! Want some cheats?!
liquidv2 wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 18:44 it would be if Iran approached the player first and said Hey buddy! Want some cheats?! That's the one player, what about the other(that we know of) who's said he's done this? It fits his profile on how he acts. Choosing that BH to give to people(knowing full well BIATCH couldn't have detected it) rings a little counter-productive here, don't you think? You're effectively giving carte blanche to people by backing this up.
Apparently all of these shenanigans have been going on while I've been working for the last few days... First of all "brettowns"... if you are going to change your serial at least make the nickname less obvious. FYI: I blacklisted one of Britain's larger ISP's because I needed to keep several persistent cheaters out as well as MDK@ENGLAND but that's another story... Keeping you out will be relatively simple. I forum banned you from Jelly for my own reasons. I dislike liars, and I absolutely despise how cheating has been ruining this game for years. You admit to cheating in other servers but of course you never ever cheated in Jelly! As for the permanent ban. That is up to T0RN. However we believe you have been cheating in Jelly for a long time. It is also the general opinion of the modding staff as well as several regular players that you are nothing but a nuisance. You have contributed nothing significant to the community and I feel that removing you will not affect it negatively in the slightest. If it makes you feel any better I put you in the same group as TilDeth. Mapch is great, been picking up quite a few people in the last month with it. I have no idea why raven didn't implement it earlier... [14:49:13] <&JellyMarathon> [CHEAT] [-HOH-]Mikey has file sbhemitter.w3d Greatest excuse ever: Steam installed *cheat name removed*for me.
Lazy5686 wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 19:09 Apparently all of these shenanigans have been going on while I've been working for the last few days... First of all "brettowns"... if you are going to change your serial at least make the nickname less obvious. FYI: I blacklisted one of Britain's larger ISP's because I needed to keep several persistent cheaters out as well as MDK@ENGLAND but that's another story... Keeping you out will be relatively simple. I forum banned you from Jelly for my own reasons. I dislike liars, and I absolutely despise how cheating has been ruining this game for years. You admit to cheating in other servers but of course you never ever cheated in Jelly! As for the permanent ban. That is up to T0RN. However we believe you have been cheating in Jelly for a long time. It is also the general opinion of the modding staff as well as several regular players that you are nothing but a nuisance. You have contributed nothing significant to the community and I feel that removing you will not affect it negatively in the slightest. If it makes you feel any better I put you in the same group as TilDeth. Mapch is great, been picking up quite a few people in the last month with it. I have no idea why raven didn't implement it earlier... [14:49:13] <&JellyMarathon> [CHEAT] [-HOH-]Mikey has file sbhemitter.w3d Greatest excuse ever: Steam installed *cheat name removed*for me. As I explained to t0rn the problem with this script is that it creates a lot of false positives. sbhemitter.w3d is probably some form of model/skin/stealth-effect. I know what i'm talking about because we've been using the software/script a lot longer than you have, sir.
then why is the modified laser rifle model that comes with his sbh emitters the only file to use that model?
iRANian wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 19:36 then why is the modified laser rifle model that comes with his sbh emitters the only file to use that model? It probably does give some form of unfair advantage, laser's sticking out of the gun and what not. Vanilla rene ftw.
no the laser rifle plays the emitter "sbhemitter.w3d" in the middle of the laser rifle, it's the only file that ever uses "sbhemitter.w3d", the stock game doesn't contain the file.
Quote: I know what i'm talking about because we've been using the software/script a lot longer than you have, sir. obviously you don't know what your talking about. Haha Quote: Mapch is great, been picking up quite a few people in the last month with it. I have no idea why raven didn't implement it earlier... because he's a gay bird.
C4Smoke wrote on Sun, 29 April 2012 00:42 LOL my emitters are famous <333 LOL you're a fucking asshole.
were you asking why i trusted Iran in that case? he took screenshots of the PM message and showed me up front it's clear that the player in question was asking Iran how to cheat and get away with it because Iran seemed to know Renegade-related things
Azazel, After being asked for a screenshot of a sbh he promptly refused and quit. Afterwards he flipped out at Erell on IRC. I'm well aware of the false positives. I see them all the time with weapon models. But when it picks up cheat programs or object files... And for those who haven't gone through the thread on the Jelly forums. Apparently MandaiNoScreenShake.ddb is not an objects file according to Fredcow.
Lazy5686 wrote on Sun, 29 April 2012 06:33 Azazel, After being asked for a screenshot of a sbh he promptly refused and quit. Afterwards he flipped out at Erell on IRC. I'll look into this, I know reloaded speaks to Erell so I'll get some form of response from Mikey. I know if it was me, then I'd probably ban for screenshot evasion... especially if there was a bot-log with information against them... I foresee scripts 4.0 being on the cards at the very least.