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To all the servers out there
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description: dear storm server, I cheated in your server many occasions, (Im only writing this because obviously I wont be welcome after this but I dont care) got unbanned and it was a good time, I appreciate everyone there being a good sport about it though and I am sorry for the hassle I caused you and your people on several occasions. noobstories, I used to play there, but then it became gay as fuck so as to not giving a damn I cheated there with rengaurd on all the time. I finally got caught one day because I got sloppy, but they were good times, a shitty server gets shitty respect from me so I cheated there as often as I could. No plans on coming back or post a "what you want to hear" ban appeal. jelly how Ill miss you, it was the only server out there I never cheated on and unfortunately I was banned for cheating the irony. I would just like to point a few things about jelly to the general public though. Their mod staff works on a fuck you basis. In other words, if you dont agree, say what they want to hear, agree that all their modding actions are always correct ect (many of you know what I mean) then you can get the fuck out. Now unfortunately jelly became less and less involved as did many of the other old admins and newer ones stepped up and provided modship to nobodys in recent years that really have fucked everything up. Initially it all started when I joined after being inactive for some months because I recently got a life (something they dont understand) and so went onto my once fav server played 3 games and got banned for emitters/cheats or something along that line you can read all the details here: http://jelly-server.com/forums/index.php?/topic/18969-banned-for-emmiterscheats/ Now not only did I only get 1 post in, but when I went to repost, they didnt show up, apparently I was "warned" (what are you 5 years old?) and my posts had to be screened first and this warn came as a result of me forgetting about a warn months and months before. Then I pm scruffy and t…
creator: fredcow9
date: 2012-04-22T23:48:31-00:00

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description: LOL
creator: ehhh
date: 2012-04-22T23:49:27-00:00

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description: Oh boy. That was my laugh of the day. Thanks derfie.
creator: YesNoMayb
date: 2012-04-23T00:22:36-00:00

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creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2012-04-23T00:30:32-00:00

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description: holyfuckidontthinkicanreaditwhenitlookslikethis
creator: TankClash
date: 2012-04-23T00:57:23-00:00

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description: I didn't even read that, but I like how you claim you didn't cheat on Jelly Mr. MandaiNoScreenShake.ddb. stfu p.s. oh, you actually put that in there but somehow claim it was for legitimate purposes even though it has a very well known cheat creator's nickname in the filename and obviously implies it came from a certain cheat website we all know. Of course, there's all the emitters you were using too, but hey, who's counting.
creator: Ethenal
date: 2012-04-23T01:17:56-00:00

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description: fredcow9 wrote on Sun, 22 April 2012 18:48 dear storm server, I cheated in your server many occasions, (Im only writing this because obviously I wont be welcome after this but I dont care) got unbanned and it was a good time, I appreciate everyone there being a good sport about it though and I am sorry for the hassle I caused you and your people on several occasions. we knew this a very long time ago, but you lied about it for years admitting it now doesn't change anything derfie fredcow9 wrote on Sun, 22 April 2012 18:48 noobstories, I used to play there, but then it became gay as fuck so as to not giving a damn I cheated there with rengaurd on all the time. I finally got caught one day because I got sloppy, but they were good times, a shitty server gets shitty respect from me so I cheated there as often as I could. No plans on coming back or post a "what you want to hear" ban appeal. you're just terrible at renegade derfcow; you cheated because you wanted someone somewhere to think you were good you're still the same retard you were when i first saw you, chasing my stolen Nod apc around the GDI base in your mammoth tank fredcow9 wrote on Sun, 22 April 2012 18:48 jelly how Ill miss you, it was the only server out there I never cheated on and unfortunately I was banned for cheating the irony. I would just like to point a few things about jelly to the general public though. Their mod staff works on a fuck you basis. In other words, if you dont agree, say what they want to hear, agree that all their modding actions are always correct ect (many of you know what I mean) then you can get the fuck out. Now unfortunately jelly became less and less involved as did many of the other old admins and newer ones stepped up and provided modship to nobodys in recent years that really have fucked everything up. the fact that you think Jelly is a bad place makes me think the contrary the fact that Jelly removed you for using cheat files means Jelly is doing the right thing; would yo…
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-04-23T01:29:09-00:00

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description: remember this?
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-04-23T01:34:51-00:00

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description: TOO LONG DIDNT READ
creator: Hitman
date: 2012-04-23T01:56:12-00:00

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creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2012-04-23T02:57:02-00:00

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description: too long;didn't read
creator: Major-Payne
date: 2012-04-23T07:46:29-00:00

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description: fredcow9 wrote on Sun, 22 April 2012 16:48 Im not going to give you noobs up or let us down, i hope
creator: Spoony
date: 2012-04-23T10:40:08-00:00

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description: i made finalren
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-04-23T11:58:03-00:00

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description: i got derf'd hard
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-04-23T12:01:48-00:00

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description: Wait... first you said: Quote: jelly how Ill miss you, it was the only server out there I never cheated on and unfortunately I was banned for cheating But then you said this: Quote: anyway shout out to my peeps for supporting my side of the story and agreeing with these points we have talked out, dont worry even though I know ALL my shit is banned there on this computer ip ect (which is why Im writing my fuck it on this account) Im not going to give you noobs up and ill see you ingame anyway despite their attempt to keep me out forever So you're just going to evade and cheat like every other idiot, despite initially stating the contrary? And act like you're the good guy? I know your post was an inconsistent stream-of-consciousness and a mangling of the English language, but do us a favour and not lie.
creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2012-04-23T18:54:52-00:00

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description: free derfcow
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-04-23T19:40:50-00:00

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description: iRANian wrote on Mon, 23 April 2012 14:40 free derfcow amen brother
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-04-23T22:24:22-00:00

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description: nikki6ixx wrote on Mon, 23 April 2012 11:54 Wait... first you said: Quote: jelly how Ill miss you, it was the only server out there I never cheated on and unfortunately I was banned for cheating But then you said this: Quote: anyway shout out to my peeps for supporting my side of the story and agreeing with these points we have talked out, dont worry even though I know ALL my shit is banned there on this computer ip ect (which is why Im writing my fuck it on this account) Im not going to give you noobs up and ill see you ingame anyway despite their attempt to keep me out forever So you're just going to evade and cheat like every other idiot, despite initially stating the contrary? And act like you're the good guy? Im not evading by continuing to play @ jelly because I really shouldnt have been banned forever in the first place. banned? sure, I would have banned me too if I were an admin and thought someone was cheating but forever? no. There is not 1 thing I could have done to avoid this either, even if I had no suspicious sounding files I still would have been banned just for sporting the name and some bullshit would have been made up to keep me out like right now. Its that extreme response thats fucking up renegade for everyone (note player drops every year) and the fact this attitude is coming from the only server still alive is frightening. fredcow9 was my name for years and the fact I have had to switch to something else was fairly annoying to me. This is something that the current admins could not get through their heads. I just keep a low profile and I know no ones wasting their time looking for me anyway so the only thing really different is fredcow9 is no longer in use on renegade. I did mean that Ill miss jelly though, rewind a few years and things were awesome not anymore though...Iv been missing jelly for a long time now.
creator: fredcow9
date: 2012-04-25T00:26:05-00:00

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description: for some reason you still think everyone is out to get you i think you're a bit paranoid or delusional here's the thing: mods don't care what names people play on the fact that you were caught cheating on a name that differs from your main one is irrelevant; you were still cheating using a cheat file is cheating; you had cheat files and were actively using them why are you still lying about it? why are you claiming to have been wrongfully banned? don't you want moderators to ban cheaters? i thought that was one of the many roles of a moderator in the first place Jelly is much better off without you cheating there derfie
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-04-25T01:18:06-00:00

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description: stupid mother fucker lmao
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-04-25T01:20:23-00:00

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description: how the hell do you even get caught cheating at this game lol you have to be as stupid as azazel and masterb8tes
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-04-25T13:01:25-00:00

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description: iRANian wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 06:01 how the hell do you even get caught cheating at this game lol you have to be as stupid as azazel and masterb8tes how would you know, you weren't even around for either of the bans and the drama/lulz back then lmao
creator: Major-Payne
date: 2012-04-25T13:22:21-00:00

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description: i was? i was talking with azazel on irc for a few weeks before it happened lol, i read the topic about the masterb8tes guy
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-04-25T13:31:31-00:00

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description: iRANian wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 06:31 i was? i was talking with azazel on irc for a few weeks before it happened lol, i read the topic about the masterb8tes guy Who the fuck are you? I don't recall ever even speaking to you, other than when I was trolling people in Atomix and pming them about putting timed's on them and laughing. @liquidv2: I'd quote you but I don't care that much. A American version of me? Worst insult you've came up with yet. brb spitting on the American flag.
creator: Sean
date: 2012-04-25T15:12:50-00:00

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description: liquidv2 wrote on Tue, 24 April 2012 18:18 for some reason you still think everyone is out to get you i think you're a bit paranoid or delusional are you still this stupid? Quote: here's the thing: mods don't care what names people play on the fact that you were caught cheating on a name that differs from your main one is irrelevant; you were still cheating using a cheat file is cheating; you had cheat files and were actively using them yep those screen shake emitter files were just all over the place in my gameplay... Quote: why are you still lying about it? why are you claiming to have been wrongfully banned? don't you want moderators to ban cheaters? i thought that was one of the many roles of a moderator in the first place You want me to lie and say I cheated? how thick is your skull? mods need to ban cheaters, but they need to get direct evidence instead of relying on a moot bot that really does nothing. Remember when said bot went around kicking everyone who wasnt cheating in the past? http://jelly-server.com/forums/index.php?/topic/15802-recent-bans/ Quote: Jelly is much better off without you cheating there derfie cool story bro, jelly will be better off when you stop being an admin there and several other key people are removed of modship. liquidv2 wrote on Tue, 24 April 2012 18:20 Im such a stupid mother fucker lmao I agree
creator: fredcow9
date: 2012-04-25T15:21:49-00:00

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description: Azazel wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 08:12 iRANian wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 06:31 i was? i was talking with azazel on irc for a few weeks before it happened lol, i read the topic about the masterb8tes guy Who the fuck are you? I don't recall ever even speaking to you, other than when I was trolling people in Atomix and pming them about putting timed's on them and laughing. @liquidv2: I'd quote you but I don't care that much. A American version of me? Worst insult you've came up with yet. brb spitting on the American flag. it's the ma1kel guy from black cell, making his way to good renegade player status now that everyone has quit, also he is the new cheat supplier so he probably hooked u up LOL
creator: Hitman
date: 2012-04-25T15:36:22-00:00

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description: yeah i did
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-04-25T16:37:51-00:00

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description: fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 10:21 liquidv2 wrote on Tue, 24 April 2012 18:18 for some reason you still think everyone is out to get you i think you're a bit paranoid or delusional are you still this stupid? i don't get it; are you trying to say i'm stupid because what you're saying is stupid? your intelligence is simply baffling derfie fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 10:21 Quote: here's the thing: mods don't care what names people play on the fact that you were caught cheating on a name that differs from your main one is irrelevant; you were still cheating using a cheat file is cheating; you had cheat files and were actively using them yep those screen shake emitter files were just all over the place in my gameplay... you're trying to be sarcastic, but what you say is true the location of the files was proof that you were using them at that very moment when the moderator checked you fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 10:21 Quote: why are you still lying about it? why are you claiming to have been wrongfully banned? don't you want moderators to ban cheaters? i thought that was one of the many roles of a moderator in the first place You want me to lie and say I cheated? how thick is your skull? mods need to ban cheaters, but they need to get direct evidence instead of relying on a moot bot that really does nothing. Remember when said bot went around kicking everyone who wasnt cheating in the past? http://jelly-server.com/forums/index.php?/topic/15802-recent-bans/ the bot glitching and banning people because of a serial issue actually has 100% nothing to do with how you got caught cheating and why you were banned i'm not sure that you understand how much of a proven cheater you are, and the fact that even now you're still flat-out lying about it is probably the reason they chose to ban you from the forums it's humorous that you're insinuating that i'm actually thick-skulled on another level it's sad, because you might actually be mentally ill and not kn…
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-04-25T18:32:18-00:00

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description: liquidv2 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 11:32 fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 10:21 liquidv2 wrote on Tue, 24 April 2012 18:18 [color=skyblue]for some reason you still think everyone is out to get you i think you're a bit paranoid or delusional are you still this stupid? i don't get it; are you trying to say i'm stupid because what you're saying is stupid? your intelligence is simply baffling derfie nah, just pointing out the nonsense your spewing away Quote: you're trying to be sarcastic, but what you say is true the location of the files was proof that you were using them at that very moment when the moderator checked you right, too bad the files did nothing, which is why you can refer back to my sarcastic remark. Quote: the bot glitching and banning people because of a serial issue actually has 100% nothing to do with how you got caught cheating and why you were banned because of the bot, which has been shown to not work properly as proved by my earlier link, I wasnt observed cheating, I wasnt even complained about, this is 100% based off what your "new and improved" cheat detection system thought it was catching me with. Quote: i'm not sure that you understand how much of a proven cheater you are, cheater as in all I do is cheat? if you really think that then you must really have doubts about your systems inability to supposedly catch me the famed cheater in the past... Quote: and the fact that even now you're still flat-out lying about it is probably the reason they chose to ban you from the forums nope, just all the "trouble" aka not agreeing with the staff on just about every issue, my voicing of my opinion painted a negative view in a community thats expected to be uniform apparently. again check your polls and see just how many people actually post as to how many vote in them. Quote: it's humorous that you're insinuating that i'm actually thick-skulled glad your day was lightened. Quote: on another level it's sad, because you might actually be mentally il…
creator: fredcow9
date: 2012-04-25T21:50:51-00:00

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description: what skin pack did you download and why would anyone give you a second chance when you've cheated in n00bstories and st0rm in the past
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-04-25T21:59:09-00:00

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description: Those files were cheats. Why do you keep denying it. EVERYONE knows Mandai was one of the biggest cheat makers in Ren before mr *cheat name removed*came along. Also the emitters are cheats as well. Like I said, not a new policy, just better detection now. Sorry we try to find and stop cheats in our servers.
creator: T0RN
date: 2012-04-25T22:01:30-00:00

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description: what about tracers
creator: Major-Payne
date: 2012-04-25T22:08:58-00:00

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description: We allow all those plasma thiima bullet things. Those long ass lasers on guns is kinda gay though.
creator: T0RN
date: 2012-04-25T22:10:44-00:00

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description: fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 10:21 Quote: here's the thing: mods don't care what names people play on the fact that you were caught cheating on a name that differs from your main one is irrelevant; you were still cheating using a cheat file is cheating; you had cheat files and were actively using them yep those screen shake emitter files were just all over the place in my gameplay... You are FUCKING STUPID. If you had those files in the place that you did (which we have proof of) with the filenames that they had, then Renegade would have loaded them into memory. No ifs, ands, or buts about it (unless of course you were using that objects injector thing, but that's a whole other story). You seem to keep denying this, but that is in complete contrary to how Renegade works. So yes, they definitely WERE affecting your gameplay and you definitely WERE cheating your balls off. Now please continue to cry about it.
creator: Ethenal
date: 2012-04-25T22:24:04-00:00

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description: T0RN wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 15:10 We allow all those plasma thiima bullet things. Those long ass lasers on guns is kinda gay though. i have to use them because for some reason my new GPU makes the bullets 99% transparent, i have to press my nose to the screen to be able to see them now
creator: Major-Payne
date: 2012-04-25T22:55:26-00:00

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description: T0RN wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 15:01 Those files were cheats. Why do you keep denying it. EVERYONE knows Mandai was one of the biggest cheat makers in Ren before mr *cheat name removed*came along. Also the emitters are cheats as well. Like I said, not a new policy, just better detection now. Sorry we try to find and stop cheats in our servers. Quote: (to the jelly people: hell yea I lied about how I obtained those files because I know that you motherfuckers are the most unreasonable group of mods out there nowadays, something as simple as the truth of them being old forgotten inactive files would never fly into the reasoning zone of anyone there. I used to tell the truth to jelly mods but I would advise everyone to not try to reason with them at all these days) old news, read my post in its entirety. If you read my post you would also understand that the only reason I protested and became suspicious of the bot ect is because of the immediateness of locking of topics, and hushing me away as fast as possible. I didnt even get to post more in my topic because I got a forum ban out of the blue. iRANian wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 14:59 what skin pack did you download and why would anyone give you a second chance when you've cheated in n00bstories and st0rm in the past I posted links of my old download sites in the forum, but a certain forum ban prevents me from retrieving this. There never was an opportunity for a second chance, there was not even a chance in the first place actually. like I said, sporting the name fredcow9 was going to get me banned anyway. Also why would I want a second chance when I just made my own?
creator: fredcow9
date: 2012-04-25T23:05:02-00:00

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description: fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 18:05 Quote: (to the jelly people: hell yea I lied about how I obtained those files because I know that you motherfuckers are the most unreasonable group of mods out there nowadays, something as simple as the truth of them being old forgotten inactive files would never fly into the reasoning zone of anyone there. I used to tell the truth to jelly mods but I would advise everyone to not try to reason with them at all these days) We're unreasonable because we banned you for cheating and refuse to allow you to spam the fuck out of our forums with shit whining about how you want to be unbanned and how you're just gonna evade anyway? Do you know how many people think they will "just evade anyway?" Fortunately, Jelly has the best anti-evasion shit I've seen on any of the servers (doesn't mean someone doesn't have a stronger setup, though).
creator: Ethenal
date: 2012-04-26T00:06:49-00:00

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description: fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 16:50 nah, just pointing out the nonsense your spewing away you're* i'm not spewing out nonsense dearest derfcow; i'm merely telling you the truth, as i always have for some reason the truth, as shown by the past, throws you into a fit of rage fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 16:50 right, too bad the files did nothing, which is why you can refer back to my sarcastic remark. hmm, yes, yes what we have here is the equivalent of someone posting a screenshot of them running R-G-H in the corner, and then claiming Well whatever I just downloaded it as a joke; it doesn't even work anyways you had cheat files exactly where cheat files go, my dearest derfcow why do you expect anyone to believe you weren't cheating when you've casually demonstrated in the past how comfortable you actually are with cheating? fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 16:50 because of the bot, which has been shown to not work properly as proved by my earlier link, I wasnt observed cheating, I wasnt even complained about, this is 100% based off what your "new and improved" cheat detection system thought it was catching me with. you seem to think the ban system was in some way responsible for how you were caught cheating like i already said, and like you chose to ignore (not surprising, you fucking retard) is the plugin that caught you is a separate entity there has been mistakes in the past of many kinds, but i can assure you derfie, this was no mistake fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 16:50 cheater as in all I do is cheat? if you really think that then you must really have doubts about your systems inability to supposedly catch me the famed cheater in the past... ...what? where did you get that from lmao the system was updated and the cheats you were using were detected i have reason to believe you were using them for quite a long time (considering you have been using cheats for well over two years now) and that they had just gone unnoticed or unseen until…
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-04-26T04:19:12-00:00

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description: fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 18:05 like I said, sporting the name fredcow9 was going to get me banned anyway. that's a great attitude to have, and something great to keep telling yourself: "they're going to ban me anyways, because they don't like me" i'm sure there were people that did like you, but i'm not one of them tell me, how many players has Jelly banned simply because they "don't like them" i'm quite serious; i would like you to tell me this is another example of the "everyone is out to get me" thinking there's no problem with not agreeing with the masses; do you think everyone agreed with everything i ever said? not a fucking chance the difference is i actually supported my views and listened to what others had to say; you don't listen to what anyone says unless it reinforces what you've already said you'd make a fine religious zealot or fanatical political activist
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-04-26T04:31:11-00:00

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description: Hitman wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 08:36 Azazel wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 08:12 iRANian wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 06:31 i was? i was talking with azazel on irc for a few weeks before it happened lol, i read the topic about the masterb8tes guy Who the fuck are you? I don't recall ever even speaking to you, other than when I was trolling people in Atomix and pming them about putting timed's on them and laughing. @liquidv2: I'd quote you but I don't care that much. A American version of me? Worst insult you've came up with yet. brb spitting on the American flag. it's the ma1kel guy from black cell, making his way to good renegade player status now that everyone has quit, also he is the new cheat supplier so he probably hooked u up LOL I remember ma1kel, I'm sure we banned him in tmx for bh AGES ago. I'll try and retrieve the logs for lulz. Never spoke to him though, still a nobody to me.
creator: Sean
date: 2012-04-26T13:43:14-00:00

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description: I suppose your still a cheater to him though.
creator: ehhh
date: 2012-04-26T14:04:51-00:00

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description: Azazel wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 07:43 Hitman wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 08:36 it's the ma1kel guy from black cell, making his way to good renegade player status now that everyone has quit, also he is the new cheat supplier so he probably hooked u up LOL I remember ma1kel, I'm sure we banned him in tmx for bh AGES ago. I'll try and retrieve the logs for lulz. Never spoke to him though, still a nobody to me. http://jelly-server.com/forums/index.php?/topic/18988-banned-forever-ago/page__v iew__findpost__p__267278 What he does is makes server side plugins for people, and they tend to look the other way when he pulls shit like that. What's absurd is that BH in that topic is the one I(DJEYEK found it) gave him, for trying to make an anti-cheat for it. It is funny he sucked ass at sniping before he started coding plugins, now he's "pro". He "lags" like a bitch with 4.0 running, every movement he makes is that way.
creator: shaitan
date: 2012-04-26T14:18:46-00:00

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description: Azazel wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 08:43 Never spoke to him though, still a nobody to me. that shows you think you're somebody let me be clear - you are less than a nobody shai, is that the topic where Iran directed some guy to bighead and then the guy got banned? to be clear on that one, the guy actually went to Iran in the first place asking for cheats so he could kill players he thought were cheating
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-04-26T16:49:56-00:00

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description: Quote: you're* i'm not spewing out nonsense dearest derfcow; i'm merely telling you the truth, as i always have for some reason the truth, as shown by the past, throws you into a fit of rage of course Quote: hmm, yes, yes what we have here is the equivalent of someone posting a screenshot no one observed me doing anything illegal. Quote: of them running R-G-H in the corner, and then claiming Well whatever I just downloaded it as a joke; it doesn't even work anyways A direct picture showing someone using *cheat name removed*is less failable. Quote: you had cheat files exactly where cheat files go, my dearest derfcow again whatever makes you feel better. Quote: why do you expect anyone to believe you weren't cheating when you've casually demonstrated in the past how comfortable you actually are with cheating? you just dont read things, In my op on the jelly forums I said I didnt expect anyone to believe me and fully expected a ban anyway. I dont know why I bother. Iv never found anything wrong with cheating in casual non important servers. eg the build servers/noobstories ect. Jelly was the server I never cheated on and I still wont even in the future. Quote: you seem to think the ban system was in some way responsible for how you were caught cheating How else was I "caught" lmao Quote: like i already said, and like you chose to ignore (not surprising, you fucking retard) another moot point, but go ahead and rage some more. Quote: is the plugin that caught you is a separate entity there has been mistakes in the past of many kinds, but i can assure you derfie, this was no mistake the broken record continues... Quote: [color=skyblue]...what? where did you get that from lmao here Quote: i'm not sure that you understand how much of a proven cheater you are, Quote: the system was updated and the cheats you were using were detected nice update, was it called lockbox? Quote: i have reason to believe you were using them for quite a long time Oh please entertain me here! Quote…
creator: fredcow9
date: 2012-04-26T18:53:20-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: liquidv2 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 10:49 shai, is that the topic where Iran directed some guy to bighead and then the guy got banned? to be clear on that one, the guy actually went to Iran in the first place asking for cheats so he could kill players he thought were cheating[/color] You can be as "clear" as you want to be. It doesn't take away from the fact he's known for doing that type of stuff.
creator: shaitan
date: 2012-04-26T18:59:08-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: Mother of god that's one heck of a post
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-04-26T19:21:12-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: (&JellyMarathon) [CHEAT] therefhop has file w_ionb_closed.w3d (&JellyMarathon) [CHEAT] therefhop has file nukeemitter.w3d (&JellyMarathon) [CHEAT] therefhop has file ionemitter.w3d (&JellyMarathon) [CHEAT] therefhop has file MandaiNoScreenShake.ddb Alright, there you go - now explain to me how you were not cheating? P.S. this particular plugin can only detect files in your \data, which ironically, is where all of these cheats must be placed in order for them to work. So kindly explain to me how these cheats were not loaded (literally, explain to me how you managed to get these files to be in your \data folder but NOT load them into Renegade).
creator: Ethenal
date: 2012-04-26T20:25:48-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: hmm, yes, yes what we have here is the equivalent of someone posting a screenshot no one observed me doing anything illegal. your car was searched and a bunch of cocaine was found in the trunk fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: you had cheat files exactly where cheat files go, my dearest derfcow again whatever makes you feel better. i don't need to feel better; all this did was prove your title further i'm fine; you're obviously not because you chose to use cheats it would have helped had you come clean about it; you're in denial and i don't expect you to anytime soon, since it took you literally years to admit to using R-G-H in n00bstories and st0rm (not like we didn't already know that) fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: why do you expect anyone to believe you weren't cheating when you've casually demonstrated in the past how comfortable you actually are with cheating? you just dont read things, In my op on the jelly forums I said I didnt expect anyone to believe me and fully expected a ban anyway. I dont know why I bother. Iv never found anything wrong with cheating in casual non important servers. eg the build servers/noobstories ect. Jelly was the server I never cheated on and I still wont even in the future. using the files you were is considered cheating; they are cheat files n00bstories does not differ much from Jelly Marathon, and we in no way appreciate you claiming to be a Jelly player in any sense of the word fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: you seem to think the ban system was in some way responsible for how you were caught cheating How else was I "caught" lmao certainly not by the same process that covers serial bans as i so clearly stated numerous times already fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 Quote: is the plugin that caught you is a separate entity there has been mistakes in the past of many kinds, but i can assure you derfie, this was no mista…
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-04-26T20:35:31-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: liquidv2 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 14:35 Holy fuck Spoony post.
creator: shaitan
date: 2012-04-26T23:37:26-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: Summary, he's cheated everywhere else but not on our server. If you were banned you deserved it regardless of being caught or not. See how easy was that to sum up? It's our decision on who we let in. You weren't wanted, move on.
creator: Jellybe4n
date: 2012-04-27T06:49:26-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: You sounded like a true boss in the main topic.. Sounded like the realest person in video games. Then I realized, you were hacking, then I realized you were hacking in "every server but Jelly" - sounds like you just wanted a last shot at getting unbanned from Jelly, but you're an idiot. Here's an idea! Move on from Renegade.. Game has only been out for a decade now..
creator: Ani
date: 2012-04-27T13:13:31-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: Quote: your car was searched and a bunch of cocaine was found in the trunk More like baby powder Quote: i don't need to feel better; all this did was prove your title further I have a title? Quote: i'm fine; you're obviously not because you chose to use cheats never knew cheating was related to illnesses. Quote: it would have helped had you come clean about it; What part of banned for life dont you get? Also what part about I didnt cheat dont you get? Quote: you're in denial and i don't expect you to anytime soon, since it took you literally years to admit to using R-G-H in n00bstories and st0rm (not like we didn't already know that) This really shows how little you actually know about noobstories and storm. I never have ever used rgh. Thats just some bullshit. Quote: using the files you were is considered cheating; they are cheat files n00bstories does not differ much from Jelly Marathon, and we in no way appreciate you claiming to be a Jelly player in any sense of the word ? Quote: certainly not by the same process that covers serial bans as i so clearly stated numerous times already so again, not caught doing anything wrong. Quote: i'm a fixed record, working properly Ill notify everyone Quote: it is actually you that is broken wheres the mechanic? Quote: if i didn't know any better i'd say you're just a successful troll i have no problem correcting you though waiting for the first correction. Quote: i believe you were forum-banned due to the PM convos that you had with moderators; there was likely no need to allow you to continue posting when you were clearly going to continue lying about it no, the form ban came when lurker suggested it in the topic. I dont know when the ban took place because I didnt log onto jelly for a few days but when I went to log on I was banned and checking the end topic lurker is who you see. Quote: well derfie, it goes like this if i didn't know any better i'd give you the benefit of the doubt, but that's not the case here The same li…
creator: fredcow9
date: 2012-04-27T21:42:09-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: stfu faggot
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-04-27T22:11:20-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: err that is ban evading im afraid.
creator: ehhh
date: 2012-04-27T22:13:32-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: I like how he ignored my post because it actually contained something related to the fact he keeps blatantly denying
creator: Ethenal
date: 2012-04-27T23:25:58-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: If you ever mapch mine, look for GTFOmyPC.txt.
creator: shaitan
date: 2012-04-28T00:29:45-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: fredcow, send me the links to the files in a PM, or put them in a zipfile up on mediafire or something like that, and let me look at them.
creator: producepr
date: 2012-04-28T00:32:45-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: shaitan wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 19:29 If you ever mapch mine, look for GTFOmyPC.txt. if anyone looked at your computer they would be overwhelmed by the amount of gay porn
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-04-28T00:56:01-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: liquidv2 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 18:56 shaitan wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 19:29 If you ever mapch mine, look for GTFOmyPC.txt. if anyone looked at your computer they would be overwhelmed by the amount of gay porn Bitch I will fucking end you. *twiztid's voice on TS*
creator: shaitan
date: 2012-04-28T03:16:28-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: tell him to talk to duck on TS duck keeps trying to get me to watch stupid videos with him; i really don't want to have twiztid babysit him, it's not my job lol that or you should do it
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-04-28T04:49:54-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: So..... iS iRan banned now?
creator: -TLS-DJ-EYE-K
date: 2012-04-28T06:45:27-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: Ethenal wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 16:25 (&JellyMarathon) [CHEAT] therefhop has file w_ionb_closed.w3d (&JellyMarathon) [CHEAT] therefhop has file nukeemitter.w3d (&JellyMarathon) [CHEAT] therefhop has file ionemitter.w3d (&JellyMarathon) [CHEAT] therefhop has file MandaiNoScreenShake.ddb P.S. this particular plugin can only detect files in your \data, w You can search in any folder by adding file paths to the file name, for example ".\\some.dll" would search in the renegade folder, not the renegade\data folder.
creator: reborn
date: 2012-04-28T06:47:28-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: Iran* what would Iran be banned for, fredcow9 using cheat files?
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-04-28T06:49:31-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: yeah ban iran!
creator: ehhh
date: 2012-04-28T06:56:23-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 More like baby powder fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 I have a title? you are derfcow, if i'm not mistaken fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 never knew cheating was related to illnesses. who said it is? i wouldn't be surprised though if people that are more likely to cheat have other tendencies as well might just be a symptom of a bigger problem not sure how cheaters that continuously lie about it fit into that though fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 What part of banned for life dont you get? Also what part about I didnt cheat dont you get? using cheat files is cheating; do you understand this concept? what did your initial ban post say? did you deny that you had actually cheated within it? fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 This really shows how little you actually know about noobstories and storm. I never have ever used rgh. Thats just some bullshit. fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 so again, not caught doing anything wrong. fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 Quote: i have no problem correcting you though waiting for the first correction. there have been several; you're either not reading, or you're not comprehending fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 no, the form ban came when lurker suggested it in the topic. I dont know when the ban took place because I didnt log onto jelly for a few days but when I went to log on I was banned and checking the end topic lurker is who you see. this is proof that Lurker is the reason you were forum banned? that's some nice proof you got there, i dare say why don't you just openly ask here why you were forum banned if you want a straight answer? fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 The same liquid who stated Id give any other player the benefit of the doubt besides fredcow you interpreted my wording incorrectly, and even tried to make a signature defaming me i didn't care in the slightest because you're an idiot and no …
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-04-28T11:03:36-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: shaitan wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 17:29 If you ever mapch mine, look for GTFOmyPC.txt. It's actually quite funny. This whole "New cheat detection thing" at Jelly. That we've been running at TmX since last year or the year before, I forget. At least Blacky did one thing right.
creator: Sean
date: 2012-04-28T11:27:16-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: shame tmx is terrible though.
creator: ehhh
date: 2012-04-28T11:35:54-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: SPOONY, YOU HAVE BEEN OUTDONE. New renememe for liquid with size 0.001 font inc. Also Derfcow, fuck you.
creator: Homey
date: 2012-04-28T11:49:21-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: ehhh wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 04:35 shame tmx is terrible though. how can they be terrible when they have pro mods like hoh mikey playing there?????? this thread is starting to get sadder than the atheists thread lol
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-04-28T11:58:18-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: I was playing they today, owning that relax guy, then suddenly he starts warping from one wall to the other, terrible server.
creator: ehhh
date: 2012-04-28T12:41:12-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: you mean like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ot5_JtHPtQ ?
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-04-28T12:59:45-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: worse then that, literally wall to wall, just outside the gdi spawn in complex.
creator: ehhh
date: 2012-04-28T13:04:15-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: Azazel wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 07:27 shaitan wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 17:29 If you ever mapch mine, look for GTFOmyPC.txt. It's actually quite funny. This whole "New cheat detection thing" at Jelly. That we've been running at TmX since last year or the year before, I forget. At least Blacky did one thing right. I know Matrix had it for a long time, sorry we didn't want to just blurt it out what it was. Too late now.
creator: T0RN
date: 2012-04-28T13:05:38-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: ehhh wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 06:04 worse then that, literally wall to wall, just outside the gdi spawn in complex. well i was recording at 25 fps so it actually looked if its possible to hit that guy
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-04-28T13:41:23-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: T0RN wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 07:05 Azazel wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 07:27 shaitan wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 17:29 If you ever mapch mine, look for GTFOmyPC.txt. It's actually quite funny. This whole "New cheat detection thing" at Jelly. That we've been running at TmX since last year or the year before, I forget. At least Blacky did one thing right. I know Matrix had it for a long time, sorry we didn't want to just blurt it out what it was. Too late now. In Jello's defense(if I remember right) there wasn't a whole lot that'd work with that one. They had some issues getting it to work. Not all a/c's work with certain fds modifications. They weren't lazy.
creator: shaitan
date: 2012-04-28T16:38:31-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: liquidv2 wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 08:49 Iran* what would Iran be banned for, fredcow9 using cheat files? Maybe for providing Cheats to PPL that play on ur Server?
creator: -TLS-DJ-EYE-K
date: 2012-04-28T17:52:27-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: liquidv2 wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 08:49 what would TLS-DJ-EYE-K be banned for? -TLS-DJ-EYE-K wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 13:52 Maybe for providing Ccheats to PPL people that play on ur your Sserver? You should be banned for being unable to spell simple words. I fixed your post for you, by the way. You're welcome. /Dipshit
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2012-04-28T18:37:47-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: U can go DIAF Douchebag.
creator: -TLS-DJ-EYE-K
date: 2012-04-28T19:16:50-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: -TLS-DJ-EYE-K wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 15:16 U You can go DIAF Ddouchebag. I fixed that for you too. Also, in what universe is "go die in a fire" an appropriate response to being called a dipshit? /Dipshit.
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2012-04-28T19:22:55-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: iRANian wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 13:59 you mean like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ot5_JtHPtQ ? You can see the warp but you should use free aim
creator: Jamie or NuneGa
date: 2012-04-28T19:23:15-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: yeah i was recording
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-04-28T19:24:52-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: Iran didn't make the player do anything; it was his choice, and he chose to both get the cheat and use it he could have used it on single player; would you suggest i ban Iran had that been what happened? Iran is not responsible for what others do lol what part of "the player asked Iran for cheats in the first place" do you not understand? are you saying nothing should have happened to that player?
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-04-28T21:19:01-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: liquidv2 wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 23:19 Iran didn't make the player do anything; it was his choice, and he chose to both get the cheat and use it he could have used it on single player; would you suggest i ban Iran had that been what happened? Iran is not responsible for what others do lol what part of "the player asked Iran for cheats in the first place" do you not understand? are you saying nothing should have happened to that player? So in ur Opinion it is ok to handle out Cheats to Players if u get asked at ur Forums? Good to know =)
creator: -TLS-DJ-EYE-K
date: 2012-04-28T22:12:41-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: no it's not; Iran spoke to me about it beforehand it became a sting operation, and the only reason he went ahead with it was i told him to see what the player would do there was always the chance the player would turn away Iran likely saved the mods a lot of trouble from trying to catch the player in the end it was the player's choice to get and use cheats, not Iran's or anyone else's
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-04-28T23:15:52-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: don't worry he's not running any scripts so he learned his lesson and downloaded rgh
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-04-28T23:25:40-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: Liquid, that's a warped way of thinking.
creator: shaitan
date: 2012-04-29T00:34:04-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: it would be if Iran approached the player first and said Hey buddy! Want some cheats?!
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-04-29T00:44:15-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: liquidv2 wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 18:44 it would be if Iran approached the player first and said Hey buddy! Want some cheats?! That's the one player, what about the other(that we know of) who's said he's done this? It fits his profile on how he acts. Choosing that BH to give to people(knowing full well BIATCH couldn't have detected it) rings a little counter-productive here, don't you think? You're effectively giving carte blanche to people by backing this up.
creator: shaitan
date: 2012-04-29T00:53:40-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: hey liquid want some cheatss
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-04-29T00:59:09-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: Apparently all of these shenanigans have been going on while I've been working for the last few days... First of all "brettowns"... if you are going to change your serial at least make the nickname less obvious. FYI: I blacklisted one of Britain's larger ISP's because I needed to keep several persistent cheaters out as well as MDK@ENGLAND but that's another story... Keeping you out will be relatively simple. I forum banned you from Jelly for my own reasons. I dislike liars, and I absolutely despise how cheating has been ruining this game for years. You admit to cheating in other servers but of course you never ever cheated in Jelly! As for the permanent ban. That is up to T0RN. However we believe you have been cheating in Jelly for a long time. It is also the general opinion of the modding staff as well as several regular players that you are nothing but a nuisance. You have contributed nothing significant to the community and I feel that removing you will not affect it negatively in the slightest. If it makes you feel any better I put you in the same group as TilDeth. Mapch is great, been picking up quite a few people in the last month with it. I have no idea why raven didn't implement it earlier... [14:49:13] <&JellyMarathon> [CHEAT] [-HOH-]Mikey has file sbhemitter.w3d Greatest excuse ever: Steam installed *cheat name removed*for me.
creator: Lazy5686
date: 2012-04-29T02:09:42-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: Lazy5686 wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 19:09 Apparently all of these shenanigans have been going on while I've been working for the last few days... First of all "brettowns"... if you are going to change your serial at least make the nickname less obvious. FYI: I blacklisted one of Britain's larger ISP's because I needed to keep several persistent cheaters out as well as MDK@ENGLAND but that's another story... Keeping you out will be relatively simple. I forum banned you from Jelly for my own reasons. I dislike liars, and I absolutely despise how cheating has been ruining this game for years. You admit to cheating in other servers but of course you never ever cheated in Jelly! As for the permanent ban. That is up to T0RN. However we believe you have been cheating in Jelly for a long time. It is also the general opinion of the modding staff as well as several regular players that you are nothing but a nuisance. You have contributed nothing significant to the community and I feel that removing you will not affect it negatively in the slightest. If it makes you feel any better I put you in the same group as TilDeth. Mapch is great, been picking up quite a few people in the last month with it. I have no idea why raven didn't implement it earlier... [14:49:13] <&JellyMarathon> [CHEAT] [-HOH-]Mikey has file sbhemitter.w3d Greatest excuse ever: Steam installed *cheat name removed*for me. As I explained to t0rn the problem with this script is that it creates a lot of false positives. sbhemitter.w3d is probably some form of model/skin/stealth-effect. I know what i'm talking about because we've been using the software/script a lot longer than you have, sir.
creator: Sean
date: 2012-04-29T02:30:35-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: then why is the modified laser rifle model that comes with his sbh emitters the only file to use that model?
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-04-29T02:36:16-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: iRANian wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 19:36 then why is the modified laser rifle model that comes with his sbh emitters the only file to use that model? It probably does give some form of unfair advantage, laser's sticking out of the gun and what not. Vanilla rene ftw.
creator: Sean
date: 2012-04-29T02:40:32-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: no the laser rifle plays the emitter "sbhemitter.w3d" in the middle of the laser rifle, it's the only file that ever uses "sbhemitter.w3d", the stock game doesn't contain the file.
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-04-29T02:46:26-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: Quote: I know what i'm talking about because we've been using the software/script a lot longer than you have, sir. obviously you don't know what your talking about. Haha Quote: Mapch is great, been picking up quite a few people in the last month with it. I have no idea why raven didn't implement it earlier... because he's a gay bird.
creator: Gen_Blacky
date: 2012-04-29T03:21:49-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: LOL my emitters are famous <333
creator: C4Smoke
date: 2012-04-29T04:42:40-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: C4Smoke wrote on Sun, 29 April 2012 00:42 LOL my emitters are famous <333 LOL you're a fucking asshole.
creator: T0RN
date: 2012-04-29T04:50:07-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: were you asking why i trusted Iran in that case? he took screenshots of the PM message and showed me up front it's clear that the player in question was asking Iran how to cheat and get away with it because Iran seemed to know Renegade-related things
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-04-29T08:42:10-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: Azazel, After being asked for a screenshot of a sbh he promptly refused and quit. Afterwards he flipped out at Erell on IRC. I'm well aware of the false positives. I see them all the time with weapon models. But when it picks up cheat programs or object files... And for those who haven't gone through the thread on the Jelly forums. Apparently MandaiNoScreenShake.ddb is not an objects file according to Fredcow.
creator: Lazy5686
date: 2012-04-29T13:33:17-00:00

Re: To all the servers out there
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description: Lazy5686 wrote on Sun, 29 April 2012 06:33 Azazel, After being asked for a screenshot of a sbh he promptly refused and quit. Afterwards he flipped out at Erell on IRC. I'll look into this, I know reloaded speaks to Erell so I'll get some form of response from Mikey. I know if it was me, then I'd probably ban for screenshot evasion... especially if there was a bot-log with information against them... I foresee scripts 4.0 being on the cards at the very least.
creator: Sean
date: 2012-04-29T13:48:45-00:00