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XWIS DOWN
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description: ^
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-03-06T12:00:16-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: looks like it..
creator: zunnie
date: 2012-03-06T12:01:22-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: jesus fuck how is it even possible to have so much downtime on what's a modified IRC server
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-03-06T12:07:27-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: 10 cookies says it's related to storm and wilofag... awfully convenient timing isn't it?
creator: danpaul88
date: 2012-03-06T15:06:07-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: Why don't you guys gather enough evidence and call the FBI? Tell them your being ddos'd by some script kiddie.
creator: halo2pac
date: 2012-03-06T15:13:01-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: danpaul88 wrote on Tue, 06 March 2012 08:06 10 cookies says it's related to storm and wilofag... awfully convenient timing isn't it? Could very well be.
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-03-06T15:38:17-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: halo2pac wrote on Tue, 06 March 2012 10:13 Why don't you guys gather enough evidence and call the FBI? Tell them your being ddos'd by some script kiddie. People have already taken care of that. Also, it's DDoSed... Not "ddos'd".
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2012-03-06T15:57:52-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: strike-team.net is down too, what the fuck is going on?
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-03-06T16:01:14-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: So it seems... Hope we can get an update from Olaf or w/e
creator: Omar007
date: 2012-03-06T16:52:58-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: should create some backup wol ;o so can connect to it with wolproxy ;o
creator: braner101
date: 2012-03-06T19:01:15-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: That's because they run the site on the same box as xwis (however improbable that may seem to you).
creator: Goztow
date: 2012-03-06T19:06:29-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: Saw Olaf on the forums earlier, but he didn't post to let us know anything.
creator: T0RN
date: 2012-03-06T19:08:34-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: NeoGrant was on too.
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-03-06T19:09:08-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: I don't mind if XWIS goes down, but what I do hate is when Olaf doesn't fucking tell the community or make a post about it. Would be nice to know instead of saying HEY WHAT DOES THIS BUTTON DO? *click*
creator: Xpert
date: 2012-03-06T19:21:48-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: Yes, it's down
creator: Olaf van der Spek
date: 2012-03-06T19:59:44-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: Olaf van der Spek wrote on Tue, 06 March 2012 20:59 Yes, it's down Very informative. Thank you very much On a more serious note, no details available as to why it is down?
creator: Omar007
date: 2012-03-06T20:13:43-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: Xpert wrote on Tue, 06 March 2012 12:21 I don't mind if XWIS goes down, but what I do hate is when Olaf doesn't fucking tell the community or make a post about it. Would be nice to know instead of saying HEY WHAT DOES THIS BUTTON DO? *click* This. Oh cool Olaf responded but didn't say why it's down.
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-03-06T20:29:07-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: Xpert; I don't know if it's on your side but AX-IRC has been lagging me out a lot (and others it seems as well..) Olaf; you're a herb.
creator: Ani
date: 2012-03-06T20:29:49-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: Thx No, no why yet. But we hope to have it back up ASAP.
creator: Olaf van der Spek
date: 2012-03-06T20:44:03-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: Okay, thanks.
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-03-06T20:45:10-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8_Kfjo3VjU
creator: halo2pac
date: 2012-03-06T21:41:23-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: Awesome
creator: CVN71HT2
date: 2012-03-06T21:52:43-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: halo2pac wrote on Tue, 06 March 2012 16:41 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8_Kfjo3VjU LOL I remember this!
creator: Xpert
date: 2012-03-06T22:46:46-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: They did post on their Facebook fan page.
creator: Crimson
date: 2012-03-06T23:07:55-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: halo2pac wrote on Tue, 06 March 2012 14:41 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8_Kfjo3VjU Omg that is awesome I cant believe I never seen that. I can relate to that. "You can't go back, you can't arrange﻿ it by penis" haha
creator: Gen_Blacky
date: 2012-03-07T00:25:44-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: I patched Roleplay 2 Servers since they don't use XWIS and its annoying to have our servers down. Have fun with your outage guys.
creator: Brandan
date: 2012-03-07T01:26:45-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: Anymore info anyone can give on this?
creator: T0RN
date: 2012-03-07T03:57:25-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: It's up.
creator: CVN71HT2
date: 2012-03-07T15:34:36-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: its down again
creator: zunnie
date: 2012-03-31T23:54:08-00:00

XWIS DOWN
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description: Why?
creator: YesNoMayb
date: 2012-04-01T00:02:20-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: april fools
creator: ehhh
date: 2012-04-01T01:18:11-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: it's still down
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-04-01T03:58:18-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: Down again..... Just give me the word, I can have a replica XWIS server up in a week to replace the current one. And I will have it on a box that will never be down. I run my own replica for a few friends and for testing a bunch of my own stuff.
creator: halo2pac
date: 2012-04-01T06:13:40-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: just trying to live up to their reputation, not fucking hard!
creator: FlaminGunz
date: 2012-04-01T07:31:39-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: Don't forget XWIS is a free service. I and everyone can use it and not pay a dime for it. Bitching is the easy way (and free too) but not very thankful. That being said, I hope Olaf, or another person from XWIS will give us a some information on the down time, like how, or how long. I understand if it's just a few minutes, or maybe an hour or so, they don't. But, like last time, the down time is considerable this time. It's not good for the game.
creator: reckneya
date: 2012-04-01T09:38:28-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: Rumors are XWIS got DDoS'd... (More on this rumor claims a member of St0rm is doing it)
creator: Ani
date: 2012-04-01T12:46:11-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: reckneya wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 02:38 Don't forget XWIS is a free service. I and everyone can use it and not pay a dime for it. Bitching is the easy way (and free too) but not very thankful. That being said, I hope Olaf, or another person from XWIS will give us a some information on the down time, like how, or how long. I understand if it's just a few minutes, or maybe an hour or so, they don't. But, like last time, the down time is considerable this time. It's not good for the game. All the other IRC servers I've encountered are also free services, but they have an uptime that's a lot higher than XWIS and if they're having issues with uptime or have scheduled maintenance, they announce it (before hand). We have no idea what the fuck is going on. If Wilo is giving their server a miscarriage they can't do anything about it, but it's expected that the at least make an announcement about being attacked/downtime.
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-04-01T13:33:50-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: Yeah we definitely should have the community run our own XWIS clone for 5$ a month or so.
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-04-01T13:35:33-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: I have to admit that I'm not an expert on the Xwis subject. However I think it should be possible that the Renfds will keep running when Xwis is offline example a dualconnection or autoswitch to Gamespy (Still outputting a warning that Xwis is offline and cant connect however / checking every 5 min) Without the need to switch to gamespy and manual check when Xwis is back online.
creator: Reaver11
date: 2012-04-01T14:25:36-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: How about the situation how it is now but then the other way around; host on gamespy, but also broadcast to XWIS. That would stop the FDS from crashing when XWIS goes down. As for hosting our own XWIS; there is multiple reasons that I see to not desire that, the most important being that XWIS made legal agreements about it with EA games. The users of XWIS connect through it by a license from EA games. If we are to host our own XWIS we would not get the users, obviously. And why would we want to host our own XWIS if we can't get the users? And even so, it would not be prone to attacks/errors and (most importantly) renedrama. There would be no benefits to this idea, even more considering there is also gamespy, which is much less receptive for above listed destructive factors. But let's say we work that all out legally, who would host it? XWIS to me seems a very neutral host, and reasonable people will agree that neutrality is in danger when someone within the renegade community would host XWIS from now on.
creator: reckneya
date: 2012-04-01T14:37:36-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: BHS already controls the Renegade part of XWIS pretty much. Hosting in GameSpy mode isn't that smart as the FDS has special exceptions for GameSpy mode and that might cause unforseen issues. I think putting the FDS in LAN mode with some third party software to broadcast to GSA should work just fine. If someone would write third party software to connect to a WOL master server and handle everything that would be great, the FDS shuts down around 30 seconds after loading a level if it isn't connected to WOL anymore in WOL mode (with a sound of the Commando saying "real tough guy" being played and an admin message shown telling that the server shut down).
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-04-01T15:30:49-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: iRANian wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 10:30 BHS already controls the Renegade part of XWIS pretty much. Hosting in GameSpy mode isn't that smart as the FDS has special exceptions for GameSpy mode and that might cause unforseen issues. I think putting the FDS in LAN mode with some third party software to broadcast to GSA should work just fine. Maybe I'm wrong, but last I heard LAN mode is just as broken as you claim GSA to be.
creator: Ethenal
date: 2012-04-01T15:50:15-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: I heard the kick and ban console commands don't work properly if the server isn't running 4.0 (which is easy to fix by replacing the console commands) other than that I don't know of any issues, but then again I've never seen a server online running in LAN mode so I'm not sure.
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-04-01T17:21:57-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: iRANian wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 20:21 I heard the kick and ban console commands don't work properly if the server isn't running 4.0 (which is easy to fix by replacing the console commands) other than that I don't know of any issues, but then again I've never seen a server online running in LAN mode so I'm not sure. is not possible to join over internet a server running lan mode.
creator: sla.ro(master)
date: 2012-04-01T17:36:20-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: Yes it is.
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-04-01T17:46:57-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: Using Hamachi for instance, allows you to play "LAN" over the internet... It's all simulated.
creator: Ani
date: 2012-04-01T18:25:18-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: Where can I get in touch with Olaf? This is ridiculous. He needs to be more involved in this community.
creator: YesNoMayb
date: 2012-04-01T18:37:31-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: someone ran the idea of st0rm being behind it that wouldn't at all surprise me "If we can't play on XWIS then NO ONE CAN!" they don't realize that what happened to them happened because of flooding and other childish actions their refusal to part with the childish individual was what kept the ban in place now, quite surprisingly, a retaliation of *you guessed it* more flooding is their answer to being banned for flooding someone somewhere feels like a knight in shining armor right now, but they either don't understand or care that their cause is the wrong one
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-04-01T19:21:58-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: I only mentioned it because i'm a full moderator over at Atomix and Xpert said "XWIS got DDoS'd - probably that one guy from st0rm who said he'll bring down Renegade to it's knees" Needless to say, i'm a bit disappointed in how long XWIS has been down. It also seems to be happening a lot more often.
creator: Ani
date: 2012-04-01T19:27:21-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: for all i know Olaf is moving servers or something, or just has a strange sense of humor and this is an April Fool's joke
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-04-01T19:27:55-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: If this was an April Fools joke, I say we put up a petition to allow someone else run XWIS.
creator: Ani
date: 2012-04-01T19:30:38-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: It is still the first of April, take nobody words seriously.
creator: TankClash
date: 2012-04-01T19:39:50-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: i don't Olaf has done a nearly flawless job of it for years now, and people are far too quick to criticize him whenever something happens i don't think it's an April Fool's joke by him (more likely it's by Wilo or another st0rm member that incorrectly feels it's justified)
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-04-01T19:41:04-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: Animoskity wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 05:46 Rumors are XWIS got DDoS'd... (More on this rumor claims a member of St0rm is doing it) The "LAN" mode allows players to join over the Internet for some reason. The downtime for XWIS is just ridiculous, when was the last time the GameSpy master list was down?
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-04-01T20:37:49-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: iRANian wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 16:37 when was the last time the GameSpy master list was down? Last month for 6hours ;o
creator: Xpert
date: 2012-04-01T20:58:45-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: Animoskity wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 20:27 because i'm a full moderator over at Atomix I am so glad you are here for us in this painful time
creator: Jamie or NuneGa
date: 2012-04-01T21:27:44-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: iRANian wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 22:37 Animoskity wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 05:46 Rumors are XWIS got DDoS'd... (More on this rumor claims a member of St0rm is doing it) The "LAN" mode allows players to join over the Internet for some reason. The downtime for XWIS is just ridiculous, when was the last time the GameSpy master list was down? The reason is not that weird. It assumes that if you don't know the IP and port, you won't join. There are some IP ranges reserved for lan, but if you want, you could even use IP's like 1.1.1.1 in your LAN. Hence, it can't filter on IP's for lan more
creator: EvilWhiteDragon
date: 2012-04-01T22:52:43-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: ** Fixed for the most part ** iRANian wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 08:30 If someone would write third party software to connect to a WOL master server and handle everything that would be great I actually made a backup XWIS server for Roleplay 2 so when XWIS does go down it does not affect our operations. Its actually very easy for any mildly skilled programmer to make a fake xwis server that renegade will accept. I wrote a documentary on the roleplay 2 forums on how to do it but Jerad deleted it and never made a backup copy of it. I was able to contact one of my servers to get the source code. Heres an XWIS Emulator that will allow your FDS to start and load along with accepting connections from a IP Address and port (unlike lan, gamespy). XWIS Server Emulator (ALPHA) http://brandanlasley.com/releases/WOL/XWIS%20Server%20Emulator.zip This is the first public test of this application and I would like to know the results from it. It may or may not work since its still a unstable version. Please note that this is not a WOLProxy as soon as XWIS Resumes operations in order to be listed once again on XWIS you have to close the application this will not transmit FDS code to XWIS! Directions: 1. Close FDS 2. Extract application anywhere. 3. Open application 4. Run FDS Not tested on 4.0! (on some computers you may need to make sure that hosts file has write access and you run the program as administrator!) It should be ever server owners right to enjoy free uninterrupted XWIS service.
creator: Brandan
date: 2012-04-01T23:40:54-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: How would you get new players to join the new XWIS? Or would they be joining the old? Not sure how it works, but if it involves splitting the community then don't do it. Not that many players look at these forums and wont know what settings they need to join any new XWIS's.
creator: Speedy059
date: 2012-04-02T05:06:19-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: Can be easily done, but you're right about splitting the community in two. I already made a replica of the xwis server (posted in other thread) and I've studied xwis for 2 years and pretty much have it covered if anyone needs help just ask.
creator: Brandan
date: 2012-04-02T05:58:58-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: It's just a way to join a server. All xwis clones could just fill up the same servers.
creator: Goztow
date: 2012-04-02T06:31:29-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: why are two posts about same thing? xwis didn't payed the bills or what? they moving again? ren and other wol games losing players. they could just tell us 'our servers have blabla' or just 'we are down.. we will be back soon'.
creator: sla.ro(master)
date: 2012-04-02T07:19:43-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: Goztow wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 23:31 It's just a way to join a server. All xwis clones could just fill up the same servers. Doesnt make sense, but what I think you're trying to say is it wont have the same function as XWIS. I guess later on ill make a backup XWIS server (like WOLProxy) that has a modfied WOLAPI.dll so when you lose connection to XWIS it will drop FDS and the Renegade Client on to a backup XWIS until normal XWIS is restored. But this server would have to be hosted on a dedicated server with a dedicated ip.
creator: Brandan
date: 2012-04-02T07:48:08-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: It should be possible to do this easier. Since it's IRC, it would be possible to make the Ren servers connect to a different IRC/WOLAPI server which then could be linked to the real XWIS server. Advantage of this would be that it is unlikely that both would go down without notice and thus that the servers could stay up in XWIS mode.
creator: EvilWhiteDragon
date: 2012-04-02T08:04:40-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: Brandan wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 07:58 I've studied xwis for 2 years and pretty much have it covered if anyone needs help just ask. How can you "study" XWIS for 2 years and still make mistakes like "Winodws" "Westwod". This would make me think there are a lot of mistakes in the rest of your code as well.
creator: Dethdeath
date: 2012-04-02T11:31:38-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: He must be using a shitty compiler if it doesn't catch syntax errors then.
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-04-02T11:56:54-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: Dethdeath wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 04:31 Brandan wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 07:58 I've studied xwis for 2 years and pretty much have it covered if anyone needs help just ask. How can you "study" XWIS for 2 years and still make mistakes like "Winodws" "Westwod". This would make me think there are a lot of mistakes in the rest of your code as well. I don't fix typos as an actual bug. It doesn't effect the way the application runs and no compiler has a spell check I've known that for quite some time. Also how can you say there's mistakes in the code itself when it's closed source. Of course it has some issues since I compiled 2 of the same servers into one application in 30 minutes. Don't like it don't use it.
creator: Brandan
date: 2012-04-02T14:40:54-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: Brandan wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 16:40 I don't fix typos as an actual bug. It doesn't effect the way the application runs and no compiler has a spell check I've known that for quite some time. Also how can you say there's mistakes in the code itself when it's closed source. Of course it has some issues since I compiled 2 of the same servers into one application in 30 minutes. Don't like it don't use it. It just makes the way you work seem messy. It doesn't matter that it's closed source, when someone doesn't take the time to re-read their own code for spelling mistakes it could make people assume they haven't paid much attention to the rest of the application either.
creator: Dethdeath
date: 2012-04-02T15:21:39-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: Dethdeath wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 08:21 Brandan wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 16:40 I don't fix typos as an actual bug. It doesn't effect the way the application runs and no compiler has a spell check I've known that for quite some time. Also how can you say there's mistakes in the code itself when it's closed source. Of course it has some issues since I compiled 2 of the same servers into one application in 30 minutes. Don't like it don't use it. It just makes the way you work seem messy. It doesn't matter that it's closed source, when someone doesn't take the time to re-read their own code for spelling mistakes it could make people assume they haven't paid much attention to the rest of the application either. Or paid more attention to the rest of the code in general. The Westwood and spelling errors were done by my laziness and poorly using the "replace all" and made a typo. I believe I fixed those issues that picture was from half a year ago I didn't want to upload another one. Yes, it's also poorly coded and doesn't meet my quality control checks but it works just fine on our servers and I felt that it worked good enough to help other people Taking the time to reread 5000 lines of code and GUI code each time I publish it doesn't sound fun. It was a rush job yes I agree on that. ~ iPhone
creator: Brandan
date: 2012-04-02T15:26:05-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: reckneya wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 02:38 Don't forget XWIS is a free service. I and everyone can use it and not pay a dime for it. Xwis is *NOT* a free service. To play on it you need valid serials that you have paid for or an Xwis account that they sell for a ridiculous 10 €. Animoskity wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 05:46 Rumors are XWIS got DDoS'd... (More on this rumor claims a member of St0rm is doing it) Appears like it. The server is actually up but a SYN is answered with RST-ACK. Whoever is doing it is doing a damn fine job so far. YesNoMayb wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 11:37 Where can I get in touch with Olaf? This is ridiculous. He needs to be more involved in this community. He only cares about the money not the community. If you really want to waste your time then mail him at olafvdspek@gmail.com. He will read and if you're lucky he'll also reply with a one-liner, you can send him some nice regards from myself too. Brandan wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 07:40 Also how can you say there's mistakes in the code itself when it's closed source. VB.NET apps are hardly closed source. Stuff seems legit though, good job. Alternatives to Xwis are always welcome. I don't know st0rm but I sure as hell sympathise with them. I've been both permanently banned from S-T before with false warn-log entries by an admin and from the game as well for a totally ridiculous reason with no proof disclosed by them whatsoever. The way Xwis "the official server" is treating the community they really don't deserve to have one and they certainly don't deserve to be running these games either. It's no wonder these attacks are only increasing and I wouldn't be surprised if this is the end of Xwis or may be it soon. Greetings, Alex
creator: ThisLittleGirl
date: 2012-04-02T15:33:59-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: ThisLittleGirl wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 08:33 reckneya wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 02:38 Don't forget XWIS is a free service. I and everyone can use it and not pay a dime for it. Xwis is *NOT* a free service. To play on it you need valid serials that you have paid for or an Xwis account that they sell for a ridiculous 10 €. Animoskity wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 05:46 Rumors are XWIS got DDoS'd... (More on this rumor claims a member of St0rm is doing it) Appears like it. The server is actually up but a SYN is answered with RST-ACK. Whoever is doing it is doing a damn fine job so far. YesNoMayb wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 11:37 Where can I get in touch with Olaf? This is ridiculous. He needs to be more involved in this community. He only cares about the money not the community. If you really want to waste your time then mail him at olafvdspek@gmail.com. He will read and if you're lucky he'll also reply with a one-liner, you can send him some nice regards from myself too. Brandan wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 07:40 Also how can you say there's mistakes in the code itself when it's closed source. VB.NET apps are hardly closed source. Stuff seems legit though, good job. Alternatives to Xwis are always welcome. I don't know st0rm but I sure as hell sympathise with them. I've been both permanently banned from S-T before with false warn-log entries by an admin and from the game as well for a totally ridiculous reason with no proof disclosed by them whatsoever. The way Xwis "the official server" is treating the community they really don't deserve to have one and they certainly don't deserve to be running these games either. It's no wonder these attacks are only increasing and I wouldn't be surprised if this is the end of Xwis or may be it soon. Greetings, Alex If you decompile it the code in general sucks and the strings get messed up.
creator: Brandan
date: 2012-04-02T15:40:50-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: The fuck is this 'Alex' guy talking about? Does the WOL server emulator only emulate the connection to WOL itself? That's pretty interesting.
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-04-02T15:41:46-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: ThisLittleGirl wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 08:33 reckneya wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 02:38 Don't forget XWIS is a free service. I and everyone can use it and not pay a dime for it. Xwis is *NOT* a free service. To play on it you need valid serials that you have paid for or an Xwis account that they sell for a ridiculous 10 €. Animoskity wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 05:46 Rumors are XWIS got DDoS'd... (More on this rumor claims a member of St0rm is doing it) Appears like it. The server is actually up but a SYN is answered with RST-ACK. Whoever is doing it is doing a damn fine job so far. YesNoMayb wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 11:37 Where can I get in touch with Olaf? This is ridiculous. He needs to be more involved in this community. He only cares about the money not the community. If you really want to waste your time then mail him at olafvdspek@gmail.com. He will read and if you're lucky he'll also reply with a one-liner, you can send him some nice regards from myself too. Brandan wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 07:40 Also how can you say there's mistakes in the code itself when it's closed source. VB.NET apps are hardly closed source. Stuff seems legit though, good job. Alternatives to Xwis are always welcome. I don't know st0rm but I sure as hell sympathise with them. I've been both permanently banned from S-T before with false warn-log entries by an admin and from the game as well for a totally ridiculous reason with no proof disclosed by them whatsoever. The way Xwis "the official server" is treating the community they really don't deserve to have one and they certainly don't deserve to be running these games either. It's no wonder these attacks are only increasing and I wouldn't be surprised if this is the end of Xwis or may be it soon. Greetings, Alex If you decompile it the code in general sucks and the strings get messed up. Also the server isn't being ddosed unless it's poorly executed because the server still answers ping requests at reasonable reply time. Unl…
creator: Brandan
date: 2012-04-02T15:46:10-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: ThisLittleGirl wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 10:33 I don't know st0rm but I sure as hell sympathise with them. I've been both permanently banned from S-T before with false warn-log entries by an admin and from the game as well for a totally ridiculous reason with no proof disclosed by them whatsoever. The way Xwis "the official server" is treating the community they really don't deserve to have one and they certainly don't deserve to be running these games either. It's no wonder these attacks are only increasing and I wouldn't be surprised if this is the end of Xwis or may be it soon. Greetings, Alex you compare a false-ban that you once experienced on some obscure server to this situation? that's horribly inaccurate, at best Wilost0rm was flooding and crashing other servers multiple times a day for literally months on end, non-stop the only server that still filled up on a daily basis was his main target, and his goal was to get all of those players to join his server; this game is over 10 years old now, and terrorism of that magnitude isn't good for Renegade as a whole once it was determined that it was indeed him both he and his servers were banned it was made clear that if he was removed from the st0rm picture that st0rm would be allowed back on and everything would be fine the fact that he did not offer to step down shows how much both he cares about Renegade now the rumor is that him or someone associated with him is flooding XWIS so no one can play; if you honestly view what XWIS did as wrong then you should view this as very, very wrong funny how you seem to think that sort of behavior is justified
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-04-02T15:53:07-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: iRANian wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 08:41 The fuck is this 'Alex' guy talking about? Does the WOL server emulator only emulate the connection to WOL itself? That's pretty interesting. It allows connections on port 4003,4005. Port 4005 is a list of servers available for the xwis. Port 4003 does the actual xwis work. It replies to the FDS requests makes and over all tries to make FDS happy with not running on XWIS. If the hosts file doesn't work I can always send to a modified WOLAPI.dll
creator: Brandan
date: 2012-04-02T16:00:50-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: iRANian wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 08:41 The fuck is this 'Alex' guy talking about? Excuse me, which part did you not understand? Brandan wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 08:46 If you decompile it the code in general sucks and the strings get messed up. How so? There may be some optimizations like string concatenation done at compile-time but they are minor. Brandan wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 08:46 Also the server isn't being ddosed unless it's poorly executed because the server still answers ping requests at reasonable reply time. Unless the irc server itself was shutdown/partly dosed/or someone just doesn't want people to connect. Ping doesn't have anything to do with this. Xwis has rather massive bandwidth. Taking up all the bandwidth is not necessary when smashing their TCP/IP stack does what the attackers want just fine. And did you really have to quote the whole post? liquidv2 wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 08:53 now the rumor is that him or someone associated with him is flooding XWIS so no one can play; if you honestly view what XWIS did as wrong then you should view this as very, very wrong funny how you seem to think that sort of behavior is justified TBH, I'm not really a renegade player I also haven't played on Xwis in well over a year at all. I'm sorry you guys can't play, I know it must suck. I'm also being accused by various people who would like to play (RA2) all the time about attacking Xwis and I'm sick of it. I mean I haven't been around for 1.5 years. Greetings, Alex
creator: ThisLittleGirl
date: 2012-04-02T16:04:39-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: ThisLittleGirl wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 09:04 iRANian wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 08:41 The fuck is this 'Alex' guy talking about? Excuse me, which part did you not understand? Brandan wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 08:46 If you decompile it the code in general sucks and the strings get messed up. How so? There may be some optimizations like string concatenation done at compile-time but they are minor. Brandan wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 08:46 Also the server isn't being ddosed unless it's poorly executed because the server still answers ping requests at reasonable reply time. Unless the irc server itself was shutdown/partly dosed/or someone just doesn't want people to connect. Ping doesn't have anything to do with this. Xwis has rather massive bandwidth. Taking up all the bandwidth is not necessary when smashing their TCP/IP stack does what the attackers want just fine. And did you really have to quote the whole post? liquidv2 wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 08:53 now the rumor is that him or someone associated with him is flooding XWIS so no one can play; if you honestly view what XWIS did as wrong then you should view this as very, very wrong funny how you seem to think that sort of behavior is justified TBH, I'm not really a renegade player I also haven't played on Xwis in well over a year at all. I'm sorry you guys can't play, I know it must suck. I'm also being accused by various people who would like to play (RA2) all the time about attacking Xwis and I'm sick of it. I mean I haven't been around for 1.5 years. Greetings, Alex Ping response time would be affected by a ddos of any kind. A good ddos would take down the entire server to prevent the administrator from blocking the attack in general. Is it a ddos or just a dos then XWIS server is shit.
creator: Brandan
date: 2012-04-02T16:08:05-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: Back on topic... are there any servers that are populated via direct connect? For example the old atomix used to get a lot of players via the RR launcher. I don't have a game browser other than xwis.
creator: Jamie or NuneGa
date: 2012-04-02T16:19:53-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: The Guy in your Tree wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 09:19 Back on topic... are there any servers that are populated via direct connect? For example the old atomix used to get a lot of players via the RR launcher. I don't have a game browser other than xwis. If any server is using RR and my program it should still populate a list gamespy as well for the xwis servers with gamespy program things.
creator: Brandan
date: 2012-04-02T16:26:27-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 01:04 It should be possible to do this easier. Since it's IRC, it would be possible to make the Ren servers connect to a different IRC/WOLAPI server which then could be linked to the real XWIS server. Advantage of this would be that it is unlikely that both would go down without notice and thus that the servers could stay up in XWIS mode. It's not just a IRC server a little bit more complex bit you're right you could just link them or have some DNS setting that shifts to another server if one of them fails. Pretty much summarized what I just said btw. Can a mod merge both xwis down threads?
creator: Brandan
date: 2012-04-02T16:43:46-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: Alex sounds like such a helpful guy. Alex, maybe you can help me out too. How do I add someone on my ignore listOHWAAIT nvm found it.
creator: reckneya
date: 2012-04-02T17:57:35-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: The Guy in your Tree wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 11:19 Back on topic... are there any servers that are populated via direct connect? For example the old atomix used to get a lot of players via the RR launcher. I don't have a game browser other than xwis. So then get one? RenList is somewhere on here and is super useful.
creator: Ethenal
date: 2012-04-02T18:00:33-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: You can use RenDirCon and find out the IP and port information for the servers you want by visiting their websites, they are bound to have the information in there, I know that n00bstories is up at the moment, possibly jelly's too. http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&goto=397626&rid=0
creator: TankClash
date: 2012-04-02T18:05:13-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: Anyone know if the actual XWIS program actually works, now that my network is online i can serve minor amount of XWIS server traffic if anyone needs some.
creator: Brandan
date: 2012-04-02T18:19:25-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: The Guy in your Tree wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 09:19 Back on topic... are there any servers that are populated via direct connect? For example the old atomix used to get a lot of players via the RR launcher. I don't have a game browser other than xwis. Atomix doesn't seem to be affected too much by this problem as it runs on wolspy as well. Most of the mainstreem servers are taking a real hit though. I know n00bstories has lost alot of players, not too sure how Jelly is coping... Let's hope Olaf fixes it sooner rather than later.
creator: Sean
date: 2012-04-02T19:10:06-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: Shifting servers doesn't solve the problem, particularly because servers would still lose all players because of a restart. Also, DNS updates can take up to 24 hours, so that might be longer than the downtime. This would just be a solution to keep servers from crashing or serverowners having to update their settings.
creator: EvilWhiteDragon
date: 2012-04-02T19:17:06-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: TankClash wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 12:05 You can use RenDirCon and find out the IP and port information for the servers you want by visiting their websites, they are bound to have the information in there, I know that n00bstories is up at the moment, possibly jelly's too. http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&goto=397626&rid=0 Or you could just peruse the same forum section you posted in earlier. http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&th=38221&start=0&rid=4 996 Why bother wasting time going to each website when that server listing is going to show the GSA servers?
creator: shaitan
date: 2012-04-02T19:45:12-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: Jelly has a playerbase still, however ns is dead, since it doesnt run on gsa.
creator: ehhh
date: 2012-04-02T19:49:49-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 22:17 Shifting servers doesn't solve the problem, particularly because servers would still lose all players because of a restart. Also, DNS updates can take up to 24 hours, so that might be longer than the downtime. This would just be a solution to keep servers from crashing or serverowners having to update their settings. can take even 48 hours. we can see tomorrow if they fixed it.
creator: sla.ro(master)
date: 2012-04-02T19:51:51-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: ehhh wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 13:49 Jelly has a playerbase still, however ns is dead, since it doesnt run on gsa. jello: [15:57:16] <JellyMarathon> Gameinfo: (GSA) Map: C&C_Under.mix GDI: 8/50 players n00b: [15:56:21] <phpRenBot> [08/50|Under]
creator: shaitan
date: 2012-04-02T19:58:17-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: Because some people don't use gayspy arcade..
creator: TankClash
date: 2012-04-02T20:09:09-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: well thats a suprise, it was dead last night though, but alot of people use renlist.
creator: ehhh
date: 2012-04-02T20:16:04-00:00

Re: Is XWIS down again?
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description: EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 12:17 Shifting servers doesn't solve the problem, particularly because servers would still lose all players because of a restart. Also, DNS updates can take up to 24 hours, so that might be longer than the downtime. This would just be a solution to keep servers from crashing or serverowners having to update their settings. Dynamic or DNS pools take seconds. Sounds like a hell of a better way than to just be down for 4 days until xwis is fixed.
creator: Brandan
date: 2012-04-02T20:46:40-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: If it's a DDOS it would just mean that there would be more servers targeted.
creator: EvilWhiteDragon
date: 2012-04-02T22:40:55-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 15:40 If it's a DDOS it would just mean that there would be more servers targeted. Some networks have outstanding ddos protection. Facebook is one of them but they also have a shit ton more server than we do. Google is unddosable. More servers = slightly harder to ddos and would weaken the attack any good network administrator could stop a ddos also.
creator: Brandan
date: 2012-04-03T00:01:43-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: A source of mine is telling me he knows what happened but he can't exactly tell me what it is, apparently due to legality issues... But from the latest rumors i've been hearing, they've been completely hacked and wiped. Would kind of explain why the huge downtime. But I think it's ridiculous to atleast not update this community. I wouldn't be surprised if the playerbase was slightly affected due to this. They might think it's dead forever, when as a shitty reality, might even remotely be true..
creator: Ani
date: 2012-04-03T00:18:58-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: That would mean that they are a terrible service even I keep backups of my entire server (20 GB) every week and MYSQL database dumps. Being totally wiped and cannot recover tells you that there is some terrible server administrator!
creator: Brandan
date: 2012-04-03T01:47:57-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: Someone needs to be schooled in network administration seriously.. XWIS has been down for HOW MANY DAYS??
creator: halo2pac
date: 2012-04-03T04:04:22-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: Animoskity wrote on Tue, 03 April 2012 03:18 A source of mine is telling me he knows what happened but he can't exactly tell me what it is, apparently due to legality issues... But from the latest rumors i've been hearing, they've been completely hacked and wiped. Would kind of explain why the huge downtime. But I think it's ridiculous to atleast not update this community. I wouldn't be surprised if the playerbase was slightly affected due to this. They might think it's dead forever, when as a shitty reality, might even remotely be true.. they are afraid of telling what happens?
creator: sla.ro(master)
date: 2012-04-03T06:04:09-00:00

Re: XWIS DOWN
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description: ohhh herbert, i'm sure THEY are doing a wonderful job. i see that xwis has been down a day or so now, you know loafy has probably given up.
creator: marsh
date: 2012-04-03T06:16:19-00:00