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St0rm "Truth"
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description: It's a long but good read. http://www.st0rm.net/forum/showthread.php?19044-The-Truth It was abruptly closed when people were still responding to it. Me and Spoony are banned buddies now. Continue..
creator: Duck
date: 2012-02-20T20:51:23-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: he's a complete sociopath he seriously thinks he's the victim or something... in a nutshell: wilo repeatedly attacks another community's servers, consistently lies about the fact hes doing so and tries to get other people blamed for it, eventually makes a dishonest partial confession when he thinks its too late to do anything else, turns out to be lying about that... as a result, people call him a mean lady (which he is) and he now thinks the bad guys in the equation are the ones who object to what he did and bluntly tell him so btw he acted the exact same way when he cheated in a commwar... initially denied it and tried to get other ppl into trouble by acting like he was being "framed", then once some proof surfaced he eventually made a partial admission "yeah ok i cheated a little bit but only for the last few minutes on the last map" which later became all the time on every map but we at renegadeforums are worse, we cause "drama" (i.e. when people like him do what they do, we call them what they are in response, which is much worse than hacking other communities etc in wilo's howling wilderness of a mind)
creator: Spoony
date: 2012-02-20T21:21:44-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: This is definitely a big deal and we should all get upset about it.
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2012-02-20T22:50:29-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: -hundreds of games ruined for countless players including myself. -attacks his own server occasionally to confuse the identity of the perpetrator (known as false-flag attacks irl). I say it was a pretty big deal. Wilo isn't the honest type and the moment St0rm was brought into this server flooding drama, I always thought it was Wilo. I bet the other minions like MDK were involved too in actually carrying out the flooding. This guy is lower than 0x90 at this point. edit: Wilo @ St0rm Forums: I cheated in a community battle. <--- It happens all the time with other people and little is done. I crashed a server a few times using a small glitch that you failed to fix. <---- Happens to a lot of servers, including mine before I blocked it. that's like saying "yeah I raped this woman in the park - so what it happens all the time." Tells me all I need to know that he isn't remorseful in the least. He reminds me of the absolute power-holding monarchs of history.
creator: Starbuzz
date: 2012-02-21T00:17:45-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: i feel bad cuz all the st0rm people don't want to put up with this shit now; it wasn't them that did anything i can count on one hand the number of st0rm people that actually knew it was happening
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-02-21T00:31:48-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Except, this was a server, for a dying game. I'm not supporting wilo, i'm saying it does not need 30 pages.
creator: Generalcamo
date: 2012-02-21T00:32:22-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: It's been dying since 2003 and has around a few dozen times more players online than APB
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-02-21T00:37:12-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: yes, it's completely OK to hack servers for dying/dead games and spoil the fun for hundreds of players who got a break in their busy lives to have a few hours of fun each day. Let me go and flood my favorite Doom server...brb!
creator: Starbuzz
date: 2012-02-21T00:38:48-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: it's actually the last consistently full server in the game the only 50 player server that fills up on a regular basis is the one that was getting crashed over and over and over until the players just gave up trying to get a new game going that happened almost every single day for over two months it's fine if you don't give a shit but that probably pissed off hundreds if not thousands of players over that time period
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-02-21T00:40:29-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: I see what you mean, currently full server. Please continue. Don't make it 30 pages though.
creator: Generalcamo
date: 2012-02-21T01:15:52-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: two of the reasons why it's been dying for so long are -a- the higher-than-usual concentration of script kiddie types, and -b- cheats there's more to it than that, such as mismanagement from westwood/EA etc, but those two reasons are certainly key factors and wilo falls under both categories
creator: Spoony
date: 2012-02-21T17:04:42-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Aircraftkiller wrote on Mon, 20 February 2012 17:50 This is definitely a big deal and we should all get upset about it. i don't know about you but i think i may have lost sleep over this
creator: F1r3st0rm
date: 2012-02-21T17:05:11-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Being a mod there, and quitting after this shit, hardly anyone knew about the attacks on Jelly. I didn't until the other day. The cheating in a comwar I knew about the first day. I'm glad I didn't participate in it because I probably would have been banned right there for telling you guys he was cheating. St0rm's done, at least in the aspect of a good gaming server. The only people that are really playing there now are the dedicated players to the server. All of the good mods left; didn't want to have anything to do with st0rm after they found out about him attacking servers (I know 2 people that a left because of it).
creator: Gohax
date: 2012-02-21T19:04:44-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Wilo apparently wanted to personally apologize to me i sent him a pm on st0rm saying that if he's truly sorry that he should tell everyone the honest truth for once in his life and added that since i know he's incapable that i can't forgive him i'd be willing to work with him and move on if he did that but unfortunately we know him all too well at this point
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-02-21T20:24:58-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Spoony wrote on Mon, 20 February 2012 14:21 he's a complete sociopath he seriously thinks he's the victim or something... in a nutshell: wilo repeatedly attacks another community's servers, consistently lies about the fact hes doing so and tries to get other people blamed for it, eventually makes a dishonest partial confession when he thinks its too late to do anything else, turns out to be lying about that... as a result, people call him a mean lady (which he is) and he now thinks the bad guys in the equation are the ones who object to what he did and bluntly tell him so btw he acted the exact same way when he cheated in a commwar... initially denied it and tried to get other ppl into trouble by acting like he was being "framed", then once some proof surfaced he eventually made a partial admission "yeah ok i cheated a little bit but only for the last few minutes on the last map" which later became all the time on every map but we at renegadeforums are worse, we cause "drama" (i.e. when people like him do what they do, we call them what they are in response, which is much worse than hacking other communities etc in wilo's howling wilderness of a mind) Couldn't have put it better myself. Wilo, I never had a problem with you personally, but wow you're an arsehole. I thought all the "heresay" about you ddosing n00bstories and n00bless but ddosing Jelly a community that you're linked with as well? That's lower than low. Go play with your friends at the DoD, I hope Crimson finally bans you from here now. liquidv2 have you ever told your community that you've, in the past, stolen donation funds for the server and bought things for yourself? or that you made up the entire MDK cheating situation just to get him banned from other servers? or that you host funwars in st0rm's name and then use server commands to help your team and cheat on every single map? or that you delinked the Jelly network from irc because Iran told you jelly mods talk shit about you? and that you then c…
creator: Sean
date: 2012-02-21T21:29:41-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: MDK guy said he wanted to take the owner of jelly into the woods and ass rape them i'm sorry but i don't want him in my community; the guy is beyond weird if you can prove to me he's back on his meds and taking them regularly we might be able to work something out
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-02-21T21:49:56-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: liquidv2 wrote on Tue, 21 February 2012 14:49 MDK guy said he wanted to take the owner of jelly into the woods and ass rape them i'm sorry but i don't want him in my community; the guy is beyond weird if you can prove to me he's back on his meds and taking them regularly we might be able to work something out Are you sure it was him who said that? If it was then I apologise on his behalf, I know he's taking his medication atm. I spoke to him on windows live a couple of times over the past few weeks and he seems fine. My suggestion would be allow him in, but give him a perma mute until I know for sure that he wont start shit. (I'm pretty sure he wont but I'll give him a call and clarify a few things to make sure). I can tell you this though, he's never cheated and never will & he doesn't have the brain power to hack anyone's game of scrabble on msn let alone a server. Good luck with Jelly.
creator: Sean
date: 2012-02-21T22:13:31-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: a jew jewing! dam haven't heard of that before!
creator: appshot
date: 2012-02-21T22:30:27-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: He's still flooding Area54 and Jelly Marathon.
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-02-21T22:42:14-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: this topic made me remember yonegga from xphaze lol, he blatantly cheated aswell and denied it for quite a long time, but hey how are you gonna ban the owner of the server you play in? probably the nr1 reason why these owner douchebags would even contemplate cheating
creator: Hitman
date: 2012-02-21T22:46:17-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: ps: azazel, stfu nobody wants your opinion, you lost all your credibility after you got caught cheating jeez
creator: Hitman
date: 2012-02-21T22:47:11-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Hitman wrote on Tue, 21 February 2012 15:47 ps: azazel, stfu nobody wants your opinion, you lost all your credibility after you got caught cheating jeez You still crying because I offered you a 1v1 windowed mode while running wegame and you declined. Quite hillarious, I don't forget. I only posted because Simon has been wrongly accused and I want him to be able to play in Jelly and other servers where he's banned.
creator: Sean
date: 2012-02-21T23:02:05-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: not really relevant to the topic at hand MDK's ban holds on jelly because of his conduct and attitude no offense but i wouldn't want that guy living in my neighborhood either
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-02-21T23:23:27-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: you think i remember a random cheater asking me for a 1v1 (snipe, i assume?) over all the years i played this game? lol... eitherway: if i were to play alot of snipe games to get back into shape again, and you wouldn't cheat, i'd more than likely kick your ass not even going to discuss AOW 1v1 since i would make you look like a fool
creator: Hitman
date: 2012-02-21T23:25:21-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Does anyone know of a 4.0 server hosting fan maps? Because I'm quitting st0rm, for good.
creator: Generalcamo
date: 2012-02-22T01:15:58-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Generalcamo wrote on Tue, 21 February 2012 18:15 Does anyone know of a 4.0 server hosting fan maps? Because I'm quitting st0rm, for good. LOL! are you shitting me? You really just asked that question?
creator: C4Smoke
date: 2012-02-22T02:37:48-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Azazel wrote on Tue, 21 February 2012 15:13 I can tell you this though, he's never cheated and never will Yes he did. I'm not saying it to start shit, I'm saying it because you're wrong.
creator: shaitan
date: 2012-02-22T22:37:16-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: hey man, if Azazel vouches for a guy i'm obliged to trust him his word is sound and i have no reason to think otherwise; he has a history of honesty and moral fortitude
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-02-23T04:50:38-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: You actually make sarcasm easy to understand on the internet, Liquid.
creator: Gohax
date: 2012-02-23T21:53:15-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: I can back this up and I see no reason why anyone would distrust Azazel in any way.
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-02-23T21:59:26-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: iRANian wrote on Thu, 23 February 2012 15:59 I can back this up and I see no reason why anyone would distrust Azazel in any way. Yeah, me neither. He seems like a pretty chill guy in my opinion. Always fair and honest.
creator: Ethenal
date: 2012-02-24T02:20:48-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Yea he was once a moderator for a server. There's no reason to ever doubt Azazel.
creator: Gen_Blacky
date: 2012-02-24T06:19:01-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Azazel for president? Hes got my vote
creator: rebdog
date: 2012-02-24T06:26:25-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Shadow/Azazel has caught many cheaters in his day of Renegade, and couldn't have cheated a day in his life, for his disdain for cheaters. He should become Jelly mod, he could catch cheaters in a blink of an eye.
creator: Gohax
date: 2012-02-24T16:06:52-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: dawn bastard! ... I'm very angry. he still flooding our server!
creator: SODPaddy
date: 2012-02-24T18:30:08-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Yeah he just flooded Area 54...pretty cool guy. Spoony, are you a member of BHS, could you get all the st0rm server s delisted from from XWIS?
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-02-24T18:37:17-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: And again. Really cool.
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-02-24T18:50:14-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Another flood
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-02-24T18:58:06-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Hes flooding anyone that has players. He flooded tmx yesterday for several hours.
creator: Gen_Blacky
date: 2012-02-24T19:07:53-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: st0rm = syria
creator: Starbuzz
date: 2012-02-24T20:21:33-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Nevermind.
creator: KidNamedJoey
date: 2012-02-24T21:15:33-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: iRan do me a favour and stfu ok. He hasnt attacked shit in the past 2 weeks ok so stop start bullshit ok. Hes been at work till 5pm and still isnt on He hasnt disconnected onced today so get your facts straight Iran. Regards, Tiny.
creator: Tiny
date: 2012-02-24T23:14:12-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Yeah, okay I believe that.
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-02-24T23:18:49-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Tiny, did you forget he can flood using his phone, lol.
creator: Xpert
date: 2012-02-25T01:03:10-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: not sure why you defend a guy that only respects you for paying his bills Tiny
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-02-25T01:09:20-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Tiny wrote on Fri, 24 February 2012 16:14 iRan do me a favour and stfu ok. He hasnt attacked shit in the past 2 weeks ok so stop start bullshit ok. Hes been at work till 5pm and still isnt on He hasnt disconnected onced today so get your facts straight Iran. Regards, Tiny. i'm sorry you can't see wilo for what he is. i expect you probably believed what he said in the "truth" thread he started, don't you? wake up; he's a complete sociopath, he's spent months and months endlessly attacking people who haven't provoked him (and he threatens to do worse than just attacking renegade servers), and he's still doing it, and he compulsively lies about what he's doing... and then he acts like he's the victim of the whole thing. if you do respect him, you'll tell him to cut it out, because every now and again people like him actually get arrested. not very often, but it does happen. then again he might ban you for saying so, he banned me for giving him equally good advice.
creator: Spoony
date: 2012-02-25T12:16:14-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: just kiddy!
creator: SODPaddy
date: 2012-02-25T13:40:31-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: You know whats really funny now, I am actually for real not doing this and I have no clue is. I am going to be blamed no matter what so I don't really care and there is nothing I can do or say to prove I am not but maybe you guys should ask Iran to stop flooding them since him and exeric are the ones who gave out the program. Anyhow. Cheers.
creator: Wilo
date: 2012-02-25T19:11:50-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: wilo, why do you act the way you do? did you have a horribly abusive childhood? do you have a serious mental disorder? or are you just a fundamentally bad person? hasn't it ever occurred to you to wonder? do you think your parents would be proud of you if they saw you threatening e-vengeance on the internet over a computer game? (and you've been doing that since after your joke of a 'truth' thread) take my advice, because i mean it for your own good, i'm not trying to be funny or anything: try being a decent person. no more e-attacks, no more threats, no more lies and trying to frame other people... try to act like a man for the first time instead of a wretched, petulant little boy. if you respond to this post with more threats, like you do to other people who haven't provoked you, then consider my point proven.
creator: Spoony
date: 2012-02-25T19:31:06-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: So tell me what I have to do to prove that I am not attacking? Tell me that Spoony? You want my personal info? You want a live cam on me 24 / 7? I stopped all the bullshit after my post, I haven't attacked anyone or done anything. Maybe you need to open your eyes here and see that there are other people involved that are hiding in the shadows causing problems. How about the fact that the program was leaked out even more on all the threads?
creator: Wilo
date: 2012-02-25T19:34:23-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: That's more civilised and less threatening a response than I was expecting. Well done. (15:46:07) (~Kashen) you think it was bad with shaitan (15:46:19) (~Kashen) I will start posting social security numbers and info. (15:46:21) (Pyromania) Just remove their people from our irc :/ (15:46:22) (~Kashen) watch me. (15:47:36) (~Kashen) I can easily drop them with just my phone. (15:49:16) (~Kashen) hey you people in jelly (15:49:18) (&FreakySt0rm) Oh hell yeah Ben! NO COFFEE! NO LIFE! Surprised lol (15:49:21) (~Kashen) reading this (15:49:24) (~Kashen) push me some more. (15:49:26) (%SnowSt0rm) most amatures can't even spell the word (15:49:28) (~Kashen) see what happens. (15:49:47) (~Kashen) we will see who has more shit backing them up. ^^ you'd still be wise to read what i said up there though, take a good look at the way you act. it's obvious to everyone except you that there's something seriously wrong with you.
creator: Spoony
date: 2012-02-25T19:38:57-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Haven't done anything, just making threats. You guys already pulled bullshit moves, oh look your cool you can have exeric side with you and take my host names. All I can say is I've only barked, I haven't bitten anyone yet.
creator: Wilo
date: 2012-02-25T19:41:45-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: to be fair, you've been biting people entirely unprovoked for months
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-02-25T19:48:11-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Yet? If the threats are all you've done - which ljbh they aren't - they alone are enough to prove Quote: that there's something seriously wrong with you. what was it you said in that miserable excuse for a "truth" thread? you want it all to go away so you can move on? doesn't sound to me like making threats like that is a serious attempt to move on? answer my question, you think your parents would be proud of you? i really hope for your sake you don't act in real life like you do on the internet - but then again you obviously don't, cos if you did you'd probably be in prison or something just gonna repeat this bit again Spoony wrote on Sat, 25 February 2012 12:31 take my advice, because i mean it for your own good, i'm not trying to be funny or anything: try being a decent person. no more e-attacks, no more threats, no more lies and trying to frame other people... try to act like a man for the first time instead of a wretched, petulant little boy.
creator: Spoony
date: 2012-02-25T19:50:51-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: as for the "bullshit moves", i think i was the first person to say you deserved an XWIS ban or something, i wasn't expecting such completely unanimous agreement from everyone else. and while these decisions aren't mine to make, if you want that ever to be overturned then taking that advice i gave you up there would be the first thing that needs to happen, seems to me.
creator: Spoony
date: 2012-02-25T19:54:43-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Wilo wrote on Sat, 25 February 2012 12:41 Haven't done anything, just making threats. You guys already pulled bullshit moves, oh look your cool you can have exeric side with you and take my host names. All I can say is I've only barked, I haven't bitten anyone yet. Leave TmX alone, just because your sniper server fails so much does not give you the right to attack a server that players actually enjoy. You don't have the right to attack any server to be honest. I'm really suprised Christine hasn't banned you from here yet, let's hope Olaf looks into your little "activities" sooner rather than later.
creator: Sean
date: 2012-02-25T20:06:00-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: I am not attacking anyone. Not gonna say it again.
creator: Wilo
date: 2012-02-25T20:28:48-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Azazel wrote on Sat, 25 February 2012 13:06 Wilo wrote on Sat, 25 February 2012 12:41 Haven't done anything, just making threats. You guys already pulled bullshit moves, oh look your cool you can have exeric side with you and take my host names. All I can say is I've only barked, I haven't bitten anyone yet. Leave TmX alone, just because your sniper server fails so much does not give you the right to attack a server that players actually enjoy. You don't have the right to attack any server to be honest. I'm really suprised Christine hasn't banned you from here yet, let's hope Olaf looks into your little "activities" sooner rather than later. LOL people enjoy tmx? that shit lags worse then me trying to make a skippy scooter kid cry on dial up.
creator: C4Smoke
date: 2012-02-25T21:52:14-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Azazel wrote on Sat, 25 February 2012 13:06 Wilo wrote on Sat, 25 February 2012 12:41 Haven't done anything, just making threats. You guys already pulled bullshit moves, oh look your cool you can have exeric side with you and take my host names. All I can say is I've only barked, I haven't bitten anyone yet. Leave TmX alone, just because your sniper server fails so much does not give you the right to attack a server that players actually enjoy. You don't have the right to attack any server to be honest. I'm really suprised Christine hasn't banned you from here yet, let's hope Olaf looks into your little "activities" sooner rather than later. Stop attacking... TmX? Not to hate Shadow, well, actually I'm hating. TmX sucks. The server is probably crashing because it does suck... I wouldn't be surprised if Wilo was attacking it anyway, but the server is still trash. The one thing that is still good about st0rm is the sniper server. It's 4.0, no cheaters, and no lag. It's all the opposite for TmX: it's not 4.0, there are cheaters, and there's terrible amounts of lag even for people that have <100 ping... Anyhow, I was in a game with 50 people in Jelly about an hour ago. The game crashed, randomly. Any ideas on what may have happened? <--- Sarcasm
creator: Gohax
date: 2012-02-26T10:19:09-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Stop hating, The server never went down, The server is in Germany, Tmx already has a 4.0 server but I'm not worried about that now.
creator: Gen_Blacky
date: 2012-02-26T10:45:05-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: seem's all this is getting out of hand . some one did bad so others are doing bad back to them this will just keep going untill all servers are dead . and topics in forums like this just feed the fire with everyone adding more wood to the fire .. you admins mods owners need all to agree to a meet up in irc or something and realy talk this out between yourselfs untill it is sorted.
creator: TEAM MDK
date: 2012-02-26T15:13:03-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Generalcamo wrote on Wed, 22 February 2012 03:15 Does anyone know of a 4.0 server hosting fan maps? Because I'm quitting st0rm, for good. ren maps? hmm.. me i host co-op maps but i can host aow too on a different server pm me for details if your interested.
creator: sla.ro(master)
date: 2012-02-26T16:10:43-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: I need more Popcorn for this Drama...
creator: -TLS-DJ-EYE-K
date: 2012-02-26T16:23:57-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: -TLS-DJ-EYE-K wrote on Sun, 26 February 2012 18:23 I need more Popcorn for this Drama... you need more?
creator: sla.ro(master)
date: 2012-02-26T16:32:47-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Thx
creator: -TLS-DJ-EYE-K
date: 2012-02-26T18:20:52-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: sign guys http://www.st0rm.net/ren.php
creator: TEAM MDK
date: 2012-02-26T22:39:57-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: TEAM MDK wrote on Sun, 26 February 2012 09:13 some one did bad so others are doing bad back to them this will just keep going untill all servers are dead . not really; it's just the one guy causing all the problems if he went away i think everything would be fine why don't you ask him to leave?
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-02-26T23:01:12-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: we know thats not going to happen dude .. but do you agree the actions now being done to storm players are the right thing to do. we did nothing wrong and are being punished for his actions. as you said in your post one persons actions spoilt games for hundreds of players . do you think if in the end that these actions kill storm serv that all the players will not seak out the persons who did this and attack .. I hope this way will end as the outcome will not be fun for all servers. killing storm is affecting players not wilo. if you have a problem with him then attack him not his players and team . you all know there is no love between wilo and myself. so my post is not just for him its for all the guys who can not game and the ppl on his team .
creator: TEAM MDK
date: 2012-02-26T23:25:27-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: It's very simple. Wilost0rm was flooding Jelly and other servers to get more players onto his server. Now that he has a dead server or no server at all, then he has less/no incentive to attack other servers except his own petty stupidity and desire for e-revenge. And if he does, in fact, make good on his threats to do harm to the community, or me, then he is proving that he is NOT sorry for what he did and he's been a lying little punk this whole time. Personally, I'm betting on him being a liar with NO remorse.
creator: Crimson
date: 2012-02-26T23:38:22-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: your actions affect more than just wilo here as his actions did. and if storm was to vanish throu these actions I can see there would be a lot of very angry keyboard warriors out there looking to destroy other servers and sites maybe even kill xwis ? and if in some way you manage to get rid of wilo do you not think he will seak out to destroy you guys as I know I would and not only with in renegade ? the out come of all actions will have long lasting effects for all owners of sites -forums-servers ect
creator: TEAM MDK
date: 2012-02-27T00:46:28-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Quote: I can see there would be a lot of very angry keyboard warriors out there looking to destroy other servers and sites maybe even kill xwis
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2012-02-27T00:51:28-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Oh god, not keyboard warriors. Save me!
creator: Crimson
date: 2012-02-27T01:05:50-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: hahahahaha
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-02-27T01:12:56-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Where was the vote by the community for this, or was it just a select few server owners? I'm failing to see how him ddos'ing a server equals attacking Xwis/WOL itself. I can see if he denied use to just Xwis, but he didn't. There's been quite a few server owners over the years flooding other servers, some of your prominent people here. If you're going to go that route of "what's best for the Renegade community", then someone like you shouldn't be running these forums. There was that whole 'stealing peoples passwords here and using them against Exodus' a few years back. That gives this place a really bad rep. One last bit of disturbing stuff to read is this: [19:02:55] <@Crimson> I'm sure you'll never go for it, but if Wilo steps down, transfers all of his data, scripts, etc over to my caretaking, I will let you guys run it and not stand in the way.
creator: shaitan
date: 2012-02-27T01:21:13-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: It was discussed by the server owners, most of whom have been affected by the attacks. Whatever other nonsense you're spewing about me is an utter lie and you're just trying to change the subject. I offered to host the server/community as an alternative so that the players would still have some place to go. I'm open to other options as well so long as those options mean Wilost0rm is no longer at the helm or in control of it in any way. The other server owners are in agreement that if he steps down, the ban will be lifted.
creator: Crimson
date: 2012-02-27T01:51:54-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Don't bother, all the decent st0rm members already left.
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-02-27T01:56:17-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: I was merely addressing their concerns.
creator: Crimson
date: 2012-02-27T02:22:44-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Crimson wrote on Sun, 26 February 2012 18:51 It was discussed by the server owners, most of whom have been affected by the attacks. Whatever other nonsense you're spewing about me is an utter lie and you're just trying to change the subject. I offered to host the server/community as an alternative so that the players would still have some place to go. I'm open to other options as well so long as those options mean Wilost0rm is no longer at the helm or in control of it in any way. The other server owners are in agreement that if he steps down, the ban will be lifted. It's funny a few of those same "owners" have ddos'd as well. I was making an example with you. I seen the proof back then, as well as a whole community seen it.
creator: shaitan
date: 2012-02-27T02:30:56-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: *DDoSed You keep using that apostrophe. It does not mean what you think it means.
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2012-02-27T02:40:28-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Aircraftkiller wrote on Sun, 26 February 2012 19:40 *DDoSed You keep using that apostrophe. It does not mean what you think it means. You keep speaking, like anyone cares.
creator: shaitan
date: 2012-02-27T02:49:59-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: You keep confusing written words for spoken language. Perhaps you should check with a doctor and find out if it's normal to have eyeballs in your mouth.
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2012-02-27T02:51:08-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: if you do host a st0rm alternative perhaps consider using the classic st0rm settings Wilo removed all of them without warning one day and replaced them with a consensus of what RenForums people said in a topic on RenForums still don't understand why he basically shit on all of st0rm with that move and i think they might miss how things were
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-02-27T03:42:00-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: What, Renegade with training wheels?
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2012-02-27T03:48:27-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: based on what i've seen over the years there will always be some players that need training wheels that wasn't why i think people liked it; it's because it was something different when you stepped into a st0rm server you knew something was up one of the aow modes had a ctf mode built in; a team could win by capturing the flag via the tunnels or by regular base destruction / time limit on Hourglass the flags spawned in the tunnel entrances of each base a lot of the things on there had interesting potential were i to do it i'd change a few things, but everyone can say the same in my eyes the turrets at one point were excessive and i'll never forget them
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-02-27T04:37:05-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: I always hated the st0rm modification it was out of control. I like stock renegade and that's what I will always like. Many people appealed to the st0rm mod because it was different.
creator: Gen_Blacky
date: 2012-02-27T05:35:29-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: I have no interest in interfering with whatever their remaining staff wants to do with their server.
creator: Crimson
date: 2012-02-27T06:16:07-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: This ban from XWIS was more than deserved for st0rm. Hands down. They have a petition going stating that this is affecting "hundreds" of their players. For one they don't even have that. And two, what happened to all of the players at Jelly and the other servers that couldn't play a game because the servers constantly went down? Think that the crashing of the servers didn't affect them? Anyhow, st0rm has basically been dead all day. I'm pretty sure that if Wilo were to leave st0rm to some other dedicated members (which a good handful of people already have left) then some people would return and get things going again. But, I don't see Wilo leaving st0rm (at least the Renegade section) to anyone else but himself.
creator: Gohax
date: 2012-02-27T08:29:55-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Gohax wrote on Mon, 27 February 2012 02:29 I'm pretty sure that if Wilo were to leave st0rm to some other dedicated members (which a good handful of people already have left) then some people would return and get things going again. But, I don't see Wilo leaving st0rm (at least the Renegade section) to anyone else but himself. make a poll i'm sure that if he were to leave the XWIS ban would be removed almost immediately
creator: liquidv2
date: 2012-02-27T08:54:56-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Crimson wrote on Sun, 26 February 2012 18:51 It was discussed by the server owners, most of whom have been affected by the attacks. Whatever other nonsense you're spewing about me is an utter lie and you're just trying to change the subject. I offered to host the server/community as an alternative so that the players would still have some place to go. I'm open to other options as well so long as those options mean Wilost0rm is no longer at the helm or in control of it in any way. The other server owners are in agreement that if he steps down, the ban will be lifted. so your main goal is to get your hands on the server it sounds . so we swap one person with a history for another . I think I should take over storm also I would paint the hon pink and fly the england flag over the obby and agt . we could have a little tea shop inside the ref and fish and chips served from the pp
creator: TEAM MDK
date: 2012-02-27T11:03:00-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: LMFAO
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-02-27T11:48:36-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Wtf
creator: Tiesto
date: 2012-02-27T18:04:08-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: But there's no pp on field
creator: ehhh
date: 2012-02-27T18:12:04-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: brit pride
creator: iRANian
date: 2012-02-27T18:54:46-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: iRANian wrote on Mon, 27 February 2012 18:54 brit pride Jealous?
creator: Tiesto
date: 2012-02-27T19:03:32-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: No TieSTo's please. I was under the impression Wilo did not act entirely alone, there has been rumors floating around that several of his staff were either aware of the flooding or were helping with it themselves. I know that at least one other person knew of him abusing various things in the community war. @MDK, I see no reason why you would be supporting Wilo. He was the one who staged your hacking events in other servers to get you banned.
creator: Lazy5686
date: 2012-02-27T19:21:45-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: TEAM MDK wrote on Mon, 27 February 2012 04:03 so your main goal is to get your hands on the server it sounds . No, that's not my main goal. My main goal was the address the issues with the players having to suffer for Wilo's lawbreaking activities. I don't care who takes it over, he just needs to step down if the server is to be unbanned. I just offered to do it as a suggestion. I barely have enough time for my own servers (luckily I have some awesome admins to take care of the day-to-day), there's NO WAY I have time to screw around with the way st0rm's servers would be run. I just happen to have the extra income to fill in any gaps that donations don't cover.
creator: Crimson
date: 2012-02-27T19:55:06-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: so who was/is involved in all of this bullshit besides Wilo? Shouldn't the people who knew that this phenomena was happening but never spoke up be partly at fault as well?
creator: appshot
date: 2012-02-27T20:05:27-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: I'm not sure if anyone else was actually performing attacks, but from what I've heard from several sources, there were multiple people/admins/staff who knew about it. I don't see a need to go on a witch hunt and try to figure out exactly who did and didn't know. I'm more concerned with who DID things.
creator: Crimson
date: 2012-02-27T20:12:08-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Lazy5686 wrote on Mon, 27 February 2012 12:21 @MDK, I see no reason why you would be supporting Wilo. He was the one who staged your hacking events in other servers to get you banned. There was nothing "staged", he cheated up a storm(bad pun).
creator: shaitan
date: 2012-02-27T20:30:10-00:00

Re: St0rm "Truth"
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description: Its so simple, Wilo steps down and the community can continue on. Wilo chooses selfishly to stay where he is and he kills his own community essentially. If he cares about his community he will do what is best for it. If he is selfish and too full of himself, then storm dies.
creator: Duck
date: 2012-02-27T20:42:06-00:00