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I currently have MW3 on pre-order, but I am considering switching it to BF3. I have been playing MW2 on xbox live for a while now, I bought Black Ops but took it back in a week because I thought it sucked. I was pleased to hear about MW3 coming out, but after seeing some of the game footage and hearing some of the changes I am thinking BF3 will be the way to go. I am not really fond of the dog tags and confirming kills that I seen to be coming in MW3. Also I bet they leave that BS quick-scoping in so they don't lose all the dumb kids who can't use a sniper rifle properly.... And before anyone compares it to sniping in Renegade, keep in mind Renegade is not supposed to be a realistic game. BF3 is looking pretty awesome with the destructive maps, I hear that is already part of BF-BC2, but I have not played any of the older ones. I had thought about buying BF-BC2 to try it out, but with BF3 coming so soon I thought I'd wait. Also I kinda miss the tanks and vehicle style that I loved so much in Renegade. So what have you heard that makes you like or dislike either of these games?
BF3, by far. I've already bought two new graphics cards and a CPU just to run it on high. I'm getting MW3 too though... I just didn't pre-order it. I'll end up picking it up eventually. Probably sometime next year.
I read in Game Informer that BF3 will only run at 30 FPS on the xbox, and the MW3 people were all like "ours will run at 60 ha take that"... but then the BF3 people were like "we got 50+ people in match and tanks and destructible environments of course we are gonna run at 30". I had done less than 30 FPS on Renegade for the longest time, I can handle a flat 30 easily if the game has that much and looks that awesome.
Yeah, BF3 is going to run at 30FPS on consoles. It will also have smaller player counts and more 'condenced' maps as opposed to the PC version which will run at 60FPS, have 60+ player games and full maps.
magically regenerating tanks vs magically regenerating people I'll stick to Renegade, where we have magical beams to do the healing, thank you
Guess I prolly figured BF3 would win, but really no MW fans?
Chew wrote on Sat, 10 September 2011 22:23 Guess I prolly figured BF3 would win, but really no MW fans? Battlefield is closer to Renegade's gameplay than MW, so yeah.
[NE Fobby[GEN] wrote on Sat, 10 September 2011 21:49]Battlefield 3. Not much else to say.
BF3 is definate. but i will get MW3 as well Noone i know has talked about MW3 so i cant form an opinion on it BF3 is the only one i've heard anyone i know talk about and its all good things about the game
they BOTH suck I'm going to play skyrim
It's a sad day in hell when EA is touted to save the Shooter genre with one of their games... Also, neither.
MUDKIPS wrote on Sun, 11 September 2011 03:00 I'm going to play skyrim When is Skyrim released?
I don't get why everyone is raving over graphics. Not many people have played the game yet and most are claiming BF3 ARE TEH PWNz0Rs. Even though BF1942 quickly got boring as far as i can remember. Renegade didn't have awesome graphics when it got released either.
Neither they're both going to suck... Just remakes of what we already have with different guns/maps.
Taz wrote on Sun, 11 September 2011 10:55 I don't get why everyone is raving over graphics. Not many people have played the game yet and most are claiming BF3 ARE TEH PWNz0Rs. Even though BF1942 quickly got boring as far as i can remember. Renegade didn't have awesome graphics when it got released either. Have you not seen any of the BF3 gameplay trailers? BF3 is going to be the new Crysis for PC gamers. The lighting system, the animation system, the destructible environments... they are all extremely high end. Also, BF2142 is/was an awesome game that I still play. Graphics don't make a game, but they sure do enhance it. Battlefield has always been a fun game. And now with its new graphics it will be incredible. Zeratul wrote on Sun, 11 September 2011 04:52 BF3 is definate. but i will get MW3 as well Noone i know has talked about MW3 so i cant form an opinion on it BF3 is the only one i've heard anyone i know talk about and its all good things about the game MW3 has some cool things going for it too. While the multiplayer is still more or less the same, they have made some cool new changes. For example, they have three classes of units: Assault, Support, and Specialist. Each class plays differently and is given different types of kill streaks. Assault has offensive kill streaks such as bombing runs, helicopters and all that. Support gets kill streaks from not only killing enemy players but also capturing objectives and getting assists. All their kill streaks have something to do with aiding the team as a whole. Things like UAVs and what not. Specialist is a whole new bread entirely. Instead of racking up kill streak rewards, they earn kills to unlock new perks. So after say 5 kills, they might gain a quick-reload perk and then in another few kills, they gain infinite sprint. Stuff like that. Once they die, it all gets reset. But the thing I'm most excited for in MW3 is survival mode. It's kinda similar to Zombies in Black Ops except you aren't fighting zombies but rather wave after wave of enemy soldiers. You earn credits for new guns, armor, reinforcements and ammo. From what I've seen of it, it looks really fun to play.
Zeratul wrote on Sun, 11 September 2011 11:21 MUDKIPS wrote on Sun, 11 September 2011 03:00 I'm going to play skyrim When is Skyrim released? 11.11.11 nice and easy Edit: Order Placed: 17 May 2011 Delivery 1 of 1 Not yet dispatched Delivery Estimate: 11 Nov 2011 * Change Payment Method * Cancel Items * Change Delivery Option * Change Delivery Address * The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (PC DVD) The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (PC DVD) Big TES fan.. Besides Ren thats the only game ive ever paid for
Deus Ex: Human Revolution. Your happiness will be augmented.
Caveman wrote on Sun, 11 September 2011 08:47 Order Placed from AMAZON: 17 May 2011 Fixed.
nikki6ixx wrote on Sun, 11 September 2011 10:20 Deus Ex: Human Revolution. Your happiness will be augmented. play Deus Ex. Much better than HR.
MW3, because who doesn't love classic MechWarrior?
Azazel wrote on Sun, 11 September 2011 18:39 Caveman wrote on Sun, 11 September 2011 08:47 Order Placed from AMAZON: 17 May 2011 Fixed. That fix would be correct.
inb4 'they're both great games and i'll play both.' NO
Caveman wrote on Sun, 11 September 2011 09:47 Zeratul wrote on Sun, 11 September 2011 11:21 MUDKIPS wrote on Sun, 11 September 2011 03:00 I'm going to play skyrim When is Skyrim released? 11.11.11 nice and easy screw BF and MW then
Glock wrote on Sun, 11 September 2011 14:23 inb4 'they're both great games and i'll play both.' NO Beat you to it I already said I'm going to play both.
nikki6ixx wrote on Sun, 11 September 2011 10:20 Deus Ex: Human Revolution. Your happiness will be augmented. This game, was amazing. Probably one of the best games I have played. OT: I am a huge MW fan. But, I think BF3 will be better. Also, SKYRIM FTW!
MechWarrior 3 was a pretty good game... oh, you mean that sad excuse for an fps that everyone can camp in because you can practically kill people by looking at them. Whereas the battlefield series (even after they started consoletizing them with the bad companies) have always possessed more strategic value than modern warfare with its tiny little maps could ever hope to match.
BF3. I'm a sucker for destructible environments and the vehicles appeal to me. The graphics look amazing too, but that's more of a bonus rather than a deciding factor. Most importantly, I'm more interested in the single-player aspect of games and the COD series seems to lack any depth to their story.
R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 11 September 2011 18:48 Glock wrote on Sun, 11 September 2011 14:23 inb4 'they're both great games and i'll play both.' NO Beat you to it I already said I'm going to play both. I was referring more to the part about them both being great games. I don't think I need to say which one that is.
Glad to see some TES fans here! Besides Rene, I play only TES each day. I am taking my sweet time finishing it though.
I play Oblivion all the time, not daily due to my no-lifing on the computer.
a000clown wrote on Sun, 11 September 2011 18:32 BF3. I'm a sucker for destructible environments and the vehicles appeal to me. The graphics look amazing too, but that's more of a bonus rather than a deciding factor. Most importantly, I'm more interested in the single-player aspect of games and the COD series seems to lack any depth to their story. Sorry man, but I disagree with you here. That's one thing that I think the MW series holds onto is their storyline. I think it's amazing.
Quote: Call of Duty Quote: story pffhahaha
It's all preference. However if you like paying $60 for a rehased/reskinned/beat-to-death game, go for COD. I'm not saying the game is bad or anything, but it's not bringing anything new to the table. I've always been a huge BF fan and am looking forward to this, BC2 was lacking as far as Battlefield game goes. Hopefully BF3 has the same feel as BF2 and 1942 did. I would expect that most renegade players, if they were to choose one of the two would go for BF3. It's got 64 players, full tank, air and ground battles with lots of teamwork.
Personally, I'd rather see a Star Wars Battlefront 3 than either titles. SWBF2 was great, but could be improved greatly. The things they planned for SWBF3 was amazing, but of course, it never got to be final.
I liked Battlefront 1 more than 2. Battlefront 2 just dropped the ball in so many areas. I heard that a new company called Spark Unlimited or something is rumored to be working on Battlefront 3.
serious sam 3 bf3 mp is probably going to be good, just not my type of game. sp is going to feature lots of cinematic takedowns and heroism. cod is for people who wear baseball caps the wrong way and/or minorities. skyrim will be terrible because it's bethesda.
JohnDoe wrote on Wed, 14 September 2011 15:02 skyrim will be terrible because it's bethesda. You take that back!
as cool as dragons are, bethesda will fuck this up like they do every time. i guess morrowind was pretty decent (gothic 2 was just better), but this gamebryo era was atrocious.
hopefully Skyrim will be good but from what we have seen in the past, Bethesda will make a half-decent game and count on the modding community to deliver and polish (which they always do).
bethesda: releasing a dlc every month while modders fix their game. nobody this side of notch's fat bald head shamefully takes advantage of the modding community like that.
neckbeard preorders skyrim collectors edition with dragon fleshlight
Just a heads up for all of you that pre-ordered BF3 or plan to. You'll get Dead Space 2 for free when you pre-order(ed) Battlefield 3 before September 19th! If you already pre-ordered and don't have it or didn't receive it, contact support. Level 1 support probably tells you to cancel and re-order but at level 2 support I was done in 5 minutes tops; they assigned the game to my Origin account. EDIT: http://support.ea.com/chat/
how does that work? i pre-ordered BF3 from amazon, 1 month ago but didnt recieve anything.
Ah yea sorry; forgot to add that it only applies to Origin orders (obviously )
Pre-ordered mine at Gamestop. I don't want a pure digital copy, I want the physical disk. It's no matter though since I'm not a big fan of horror/thriller games.
You enjoy your shitty games. I will be playing Saints Row: The Third!
Sir Kane wrote on Mon, 19 September 2011 07:03 You enjoy your shitty games. I will be playing Saints Row: The Third! Also a game I'm looking forward to.
Gohax wrote on Mon, 19 September 2011 16:56 Sir Kane wrote on Mon, 19 September 2011 07:03 You enjoy your shitty games. I will be playing Saints Row: The Third! Also a game I'm looking forward to.
Sir Kane wrote on Mon, 19 September 2011 09:03 You enjoy your shitty games. I will be playing Saints Row: The Third! Oh, that game will be nice. Not really looking for something to replace GTA, I'm just expecting something along the lines of Just Cause 2. Not that that's a bad thing at all.
BF3 feels more like Bad Company 3 If the conquest mode doesn't have a command ui system, and they don't improve the chat systems more for pc users, I think I'll give up any hope of seeing another truly original style Battle Field game that really pushed the teamwork aspect of the gameplay.
Battlefield 3 has definitely captured my complete interest, like Renegade did back in the day. After playing the BETA extensively, I actually haven't had any interest in prior game titles (Crysis 2 for example). DCOM Productions will be hosting a 64-player server to sponsor the game, which will be live on day 1 and will be a regularly moderated server as well. Edit: Jerad, they implemented the commo rose command system. Day 1 patch is 222MB in size and fixes pretty much most if not all the issues (actual bugs) reported in the BETA, among with numerous other changes.
And is this command system an actual Commander mode where one guy is the leader of the team and he tells everyone where to go, what to defend, launches arty strikes etc.? Or is it just that cheesy thing where you push q and it says "enemy spotted."
Jerad Gray wrote on Tue, 25 October 2011 01:35 And is this command system an actual Commander mode where one guy is the leader of the team and he tells everyone where to go, what to defend, launches arty strikes etc.? Or is it just that cheesy thing where you push q and it says "enemy spotted." What info there currently is on that, is the following: NO command panel (team commander) YES commo rose (like it was/very close to BF2)
Jerad Gray wrote on Mon, 24 October 2011 19:35 And is this command system an actual Commander mode where one guy is the leader of the team and he tells everyone where to go, what to defend, launches arty strikes etc.? Or is it just that cheesy thing where you push q and it says "enemy spotted." I've only ever played one previous Battlefield game and that was Battlefield 2142. But what is so wrong with helping out your team by spotting enemies for them? Why is it "cheesy" to do that? I think that it's much more cheesy to have some omnipotent "commander" giving you aid like they are a hand of god or something. Granted I think there should be someone with the ability to assist the whole team with supplies and artillery... but the individual soldiers should not have their ability to assist the team removed by taking away their ability to call out the locations of enemies.
BlackIntel has a 64p BF3 server up and running! I expect to get my copy of the game somewhere today or tomorrow
EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Wed, 26 October 2011 04:46 BlackIntel has a 64p BF3 server up and running! I expect to get my copy of the game somewhere today or tomorrow Awesome. I hope it isn't as laggy as the rest of the servers were last night.
MUDKIPS wrote on Tue, 25 October 2011 22:58 both are shit, get skyrim I agree Although I did DL BF3 for the PC last night
MUDKIPS wrote on Tue, 25 October 2011 17:58 both are shit, get skyrim NNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRD!!
R315r4z0r wrote on Wed, 26 October 2011 14:33 EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Wed, 26 October 2011 04:46 BlackIntel has a 64p BF3 server up and running! I expect to get my copy of the game somewhere today or tomorrow Awesome. I hope it isn't as laggy as the rest of the servers were last night. Idk, haven't recieved my pre-oder just yet However, if you experience problems on the Bi-box, please notify me and I'll file a complaint @ the hosting company. Don't like GSP's anyway.
Caveman wrote on Wed, 26 October 2011 06:34 MUDKIPS wrote on Tue, 25 October 2011 22:58 both are shit, get skyrim I agree Although I did DL BF3 for the PC last night lols, where did u dl it? btw. got my pre-order on 25th
kamuixmod wrote on Wed, 26 October 2011 20:59 Caveman wrote on Wed, 26 October 2011 06:34 MUDKIPS wrote on Tue, 25 October 2011 22:58 both are shit, get skyrim I agree Although I did DL BF3 for the PC last night lols, where did u dl it? btw. got my pre-order on 25th PM'd
Maybe it is just because I am playing on Xbox idk... But I am thinking that BF3 may have been a bad move. People that say MW players would have to learn to move around because there is no camping in BF are wrong. Most of my deaths come from camping snipers. And Xbox BF players know nothing about teamwork half of them don't have mics plugged in... Hopefully it gets better or I am out $30 and will trade it for MW3.
Quote: still playing FPS's on consoles gets me every time
I cant understand why anyone wants to play FPS games on xbox or ps3 when PC is a far superior format to enjoy that type of game on imo... Maybe its because I dont enjoy using analog sticks etc to try and aim...o well
GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Thu, 27 October 2011 11:45 Quote: still playing FPS's on consoles gets me every time also always reminds me of my 12 year old brother haha
I don't have the money to constantly upgrade a PC whenever a new game comes out. Everytime you buy something for a PC... something better comes out the next day. Also I actually like the feel of a controller. To each their own. Anyways the topic was not PC vs Consoles... It was BF3 vs MW3. So far BF3 is completely sucking ass. But yes... I know... this is Renegade fourms and most of you will probably love it and hate MW3.
TBH I'm more like this: BF3 MP > MW3 MP BF3 SP <= MW3 SP
I haven't touched the singleplayer, but the multiplayer certainly didn't disappoint. It was everything I expected it to be - all the improvements BC2 offered (destructible environments, leveling, etc.) put into a BF2-esque game. DICE have certainly learned from their past mistakes and issues in previous games while effectively stepping it up a notch. A couple things didn't go smoothly though - for one, I think the web-based Origin is terribly bad. The design feels very disproportionate, and Origin doesn't seem to offer anything to make it superior to Steam or just some other independent BF3 server client. It doesn't display server ping in IE, and there seems to be problems with joining servers. Sometimes the "join with party" function does not work at all. There are also server-related problems in BF3. Servers seem to crash a lot, mostly before the next map loads, but sometimes in the middle of a game too. Lag spikes are a problem too. Performance also varies (but that's probably related to my specs). So the game itself is great, and it's definitely an FPS highlight for this generation. But the release was not smooth because you find yourself constantly looking for another server after crashes, then have difficulty joining it, then join one at the end of the game, etc.
I dunno.. I'm kinda disappointed in the multiplayer. It falls on its face in a lot of places that would have made it amazing. My biggest concern is that you control just so poorly. Functions like proning take way too long than they should especially when you're trying to stand up from a prone position. It seems like the skill in my reaction time mean nothing since the game doesn't recognize my inputs right away. In that aspect, I think Call of Duty requires much more skill than BF3. CoD is responsive to your inputs, BF3 has delays that cost you too many deaths. Sure it is classic BF experience.. I just wish that the controls and function executions were much more polished and refined than they currently are.
R315r4z0r wrote on Thu, 27 October 2011 22:03 I dunno.. I'm kinda disappointed in the multiplayer. It falls on its face in a lot of places that would have made it amazing. My biggest concern is that you control just so poorly. Functions like proning take way too long than they should especially when you're trying to stand up from a prone position. I actually like the longer time to get to and up from prone. Keeps the dolphin divers at bay.
GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Thu, 27 October 2011 11:45 Quote: still playing FPS's on consoles gets me every time coop is nicer on the same tv screen vs via headset imo
kadoosh wrote on Fri, 28 October 2011 10:38 R315r4z0r wrote on Thu, 27 October 2011 22:03 I dunno.. I'm kinda disappointed in the multiplayer. It falls on its face in a lot of places that would have made it amazing. My biggest concern is that you control just so poorly. Functions like proning take way too long than they should especially when you're trying to stand up from a prone position. I actually like the longer time to get to and up from prone. Keeps the dolphin divers at bay. You can still dolphin dive. That is one thing they did correctly. You can dive into a prone position easily. However, once in a prone position, it takes a few seconds to ready your aim. That is fine. It keeps people from dropping to a low profile and then picking heads off in a quick action. The single player functions are different than the multiplayer functions and I think they are much better in single player than they are in multiplayer. For example, in single player, you can go from prone to sprinting and even get a quick 1-2 second speed boost from a prone position. That actually makes sense since you can get your legs under you easier from a prone position and thus are able to get a quick start while sprinting. However in multiplayer, they force you to stand still as you get up from prone.
Will say this, Co-op campaign is fun as hell, specially when the other person can't fly and you can make fun of him for it, since the game keeps putting you in the gunner seat. Had a blast making fun of a friend for killing more mountain space than enemies.
R315r4z0r wrote on Tue, 25 October 2011 14:48 Jerad Gray wrote on Mon, 24 October 2011 19:35 And is this command system an actual Commander mode where one guy is the leader of the team and he tells everyone where to go, what to defend, launches arty strikes etc.? Or is it just that cheesy thing where you push q and it says "enemy spotted." I've only ever played one previous Battlefield game and that was Battlefield 2142. But what is so wrong with helping out your team by spotting enemies for them? Why is it "cheesy" to do that? I think that it's much more cheesy to have some omnipotent "commander" giving you aid like they are a hand of god or something. Granted I think there should be someone with the ability to assist the whole team with supplies and artillery... but the individual soldiers should not have their ability to assist the team removed by taking away their ability to call out the locations of enemies. Cheesy because it's so dumbed down from the original, the original allowed you to not only let the game detect what you were spotting but choose from a drop down list what you were spotting. You could aslo choose to call for help, ammo, medit, and other statements from the same menu system, it was very effiecent.
I know in 2142 the menu let you call for ammo or a medkit. Those options aren't readily there anymore, but you can still do that if you're in a situation where you need ammo or health and a medic/support unit is near by. If you hold down Q you still get a radio command list for things like Negative/Affirmative, Thank you, Need Pickup, Sorry, etc. Just tapping Q will spot enemies. I think the spotting mechanic is better now that you don't have to say what it is you are spotting. If you spot an infantry, you spot an infantry. If you spot a tank, you spot a tank. You really shouldn't be able to confuse a jet with a soldier. Most of the time when you spot infantry it just says "Enemy soldier spotted." But if you're close enough to see what type of soldier, then it will be more specific.
R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 30 October 2011 13:29 I think the spotting mechanic is better now that you don't have to say what it is you are spotting. If you spot an infantry, you spot an infantry. If you spot a tank, you spot a tank. You really shouldn't be able to confuse a jet with a soldier. Yeah that worked fine back in 2142, it was just useful to be able to specify what you saw if you can't spot it anymore because it moved out of range.
Yeah, that's one thing that BF3 doesn't have. At least in 2142 you were able to spot an enemy in a general area, say if they went into cover or something. But in BF3 you can't do that since you can only spot what you can see.