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Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: After more than 3.5 years of coding and organizing, today is finally the day on which we're proud to release the public beta version of the latest update for C&C Renegade. Most of you will probably have heard of the huge impact of this incredible patch, but for those who haven't: see below for more details. It has been a long wait indeed, but by now going officially into open beta we're finally delivering on the promise we made in July 2008. We have kept you waiting for quite some time, but we are confident that the build we present today is stable and to our knowledge does not contain any significant bugs. Huge changes are incorporated in the patch, most notably the anti-cheat bits, the map downloader, the auto-updater, but also loads of bugfixes and other improvements, such as a fix for blue hell. Patch Info TT strives to bring Renegade up to the next level. The game we have played and loved for years is updated to include fixes for many nasty bugs, reduction of lag issues, and even enhanced gameplay with new features. Most outstanding features of this new patch are the resource manager, which allows to download maps when joining so that you can play custom maps without leaving the game, and the much improved anti-cheat mechanisms. The patch contains the following highlights: Built in anti cheat (replacing RenGuard, BIATCH and RR) Automatic downloading of maps and other content Auto-updater, so that you will always have the latest bugfixes and we can easily respond on cheaters Better compatibility with programs such as VoiceOverlay for TeamSpeak Countless engine bugfixes and performance enhancements Most prominent bugfixes: Blue hell fix! Purchase terminals now work directly after rejoin. The pistol now starts out loaded when you spawn. The repair bays on Glacier Flying and other maps with repair bays now work correctly. You will no longer be killed on some maps if you are standing right next to the weapons factory and someone buys a vehicle. Taking a screenshot n…
creator: EvilWhiteDragon
date: 2011-09-08T13:03:00-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: A huge thanks to all who participated in building, organizing and testing for this patch! Now let's play Renegade .
creator: Goztow
date: 2011-09-08T13:27:21-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Awesome!
creator: iRANian
date: 2011-09-08T13:34:28-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: aight, was about time but eitherway nice work, it better be as solid as it should be after this time
creator: Hitman
date: 2011-09-08T13:45:36-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Goztow wrote on Thu, 08 September 2011 14:27 A huge thanks to all who participated in building, organizing and testing for this patch! Now let's play Renegade .
creator: sycar
date: 2011-09-08T14:07:55-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Very Nice.
creator: Gen_Blacky
date: 2011-09-08T14:22:17-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: my screen size changes ingame... about 4 centimeters dissapear on both sides when i use PT's and its also like that before i join a game
creator: Hitman
date: 2011-09-08T14:30:20-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: i'd post a picture but my new windows 7 doesnt let me screenshot/paste anything... real good update for my XP
creator: Hitman
date: 2011-09-08T14:41:39-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: reny screen shots are saved at C:\Users\UserAccount\Documents\Renegade In xp its C:\Documents and Settings\UserAccount\Documents\Renegade
creator: Gen_Blacky
date: 2011-09-08T14:57:37-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Finally! I cant wait to test it . Thanks for your work TT.
creator: PGPG
date: 2011-09-08T15:08:45-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: I am unable to test it right now, but I wanted to thank everyone who was involved in this and was able to make this happen. Hopefully this will introduce a new era for Renegade, but only time will tell.
creator: Prulez
date: 2011-09-08T15:09:36-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Hitman wrote on Thu, 08 September 2011 07:30 my screen size changes ingame... about 4 centimeters dissapear on both sides when i use PT's and its also like that before i join a game Toggle Spoiler
creator: Hitman
date: 2011-09-08T15:13:30-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Thats because the background image is a fixed aspect ratio. The original Renegade code just inflated the background image to fit the whole width, causing the top and bottom to overlap the edges of the screen so you couldn't see them. In TT it sizes it as large as possible without overlapping any edges, which can leave some gaps.
creator: danpaul88
date: 2011-09-08T15:18:42-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: What screen resolution are you running in? I believe the extra junk at the side of the screen (where you can see the gameplay window) is a known issue that Saberhawk was planning to fix at some point.
creator: jonwil
date: 2011-09-08T15:19:55-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: it was all fine in normal resolution, but i got a 22" screen so i put it on 1860x1050 then this shit came up
creator: Hitman
date: 2011-09-08T15:22:31-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: just played a few minutes, first thing I noticed was that people's characters didn't lag all over the place, it was ridiculously easy to snipe when people aren't teleporting everywhere. and that was on a EU server.. that's awesome! I didn't realize that anything pertaining to that had been changed at all I'm actually pretty excited about this. edit: well lol, I'm more excited about the anti cheat than having people not lag all over the place..
creator: Tunaman
date: 2011-09-08T15:23:56-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Ok it works fine, but is there going to be something like sdbedit? And what I find the sweetest on TT are the new water shaders, but they aren't in the Beta already . But it's cool with the widescreen fix. @ Hitman: same thing for me
creator: PGPG
date: 2011-09-08T15:30:22-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: You will have to talk to Saberhawk about the status of the custom shader stuff. I believe that (with the exception of the stealth shader APB is currently using) the shader stuff isn't fully functional at this time. I do know the water shader stuff does not work.
creator: jonwil
date: 2011-09-08T15:35:01-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Can I use this with rr?
creator: ehhh
date: 2011-09-08T16:07:24-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: It replaces RR, as far as I know.
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2011-09-08T16:11:42-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: awesome. Good work guys.
creator: Manuel857
date: 2011-09-08T16:22:08-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: ehhh wrote on Thu, 08 September 2011 18:07 Can I use this with rr? You can install it over RR It contains almost all features of RR, except the RR serverbrowser. But that will not be a problem, as you can still use it, if you rename game.exe to game2.exe and the launcher.exe to game.exe.
creator: EvilWhiteDragon
date: 2011-09-08T16:30:07-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Since I'm lazy, can somebody tell me if the invisible mobius in the single player got fixed? Edit: sorting on player count will not sort on who's ingame but on how many are ingame Please please fix this! Edit2: Are the fixes only working when the server has it running? I still had the pt bug
creator: candc5297
date: 2011-09-08T16:31:33-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: I've got an issue with the client, where because in a different folder on my c:/ drive I have some modded map files (mainly .ldd's); The anticheat is kicking me because the server obviously doesn't have the right hash in it's ini file. These files however are in a completely different directory and are not (as far as im aware) being loaded by renegade. Suggestions?
creator: sycar
date: 2011-09-08T16:42:47-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Do you have a lot of work to do for the final release if this is a beta?
creator: PGPG
date: 2011-09-08T16:47:48-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: renaming the game and launcher executables will not work. You can use the server browser, but you'll have to live with the warning message that appears when it opens the game, and you will have to check for updates manually. I don't know about the invisible mobius. Server list sorting is indeed weird, but you can sort by "icon" instead and get very similar behavior to what you want. If you want, you can mark your favorite server with the flags/"sort by clans" icon in the top left, after you did that, it will always appear on top. (We unfortunately never got around to making proper buttons for that.) Depending on the nature of the bug, fixes may require 4.0 to be running on the server, client, or both. The PT problem requires the server to run it. TT does not scan your hard drive, it only checks the files that are loaded by Renegade. So those files in another directory cannot be causing any problems. The problem you may be having is that the server is running modified versions of the maps. If you have control over the server, check whether it has the versions as hosted here: http://ren.game-maps.net/tt/ Your client should have automatically updated the files with the correct versions from that location.
creator: StealthEye
date: 2011-09-08T16:55:04-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Very good news! Maybe a tip for the people who are going to install it, if you don't want to end up deleting and re-installing Renegade when you decide you don't want to run the TT beta patch anymore. Copy your entire Renegade folder and rename it to Renegade old or Renegade backup. Next run the patch on the original Renegade folder. Now you have two folders, one with scripts 4.0 and one with the earlier scripts. So when you want to play with the older scripts again, change the name of the Renegade folder with the beta scripts 4.0 to Renegade 40. And rename the (backup) folder with the older scripts back to Renegade.
creator: thomasemperor
date: 2011-09-08T17:16:47-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Very nice This might change my opinion about scripts and make me download it But first I wait till ALL bugs are fixed, seeing people got problems with it already
creator: woandre
date: 2011-09-08T17:27:23-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: nice done guys! i tested it on a server and is very fast
creator: sla.ro(master)
date: 2011-09-08T17:37:18-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: I don't know if this is still an issue, but I've been using 4.0 for about a month, and I notice I can see SBHs easier on maps like Under and Mesa. I see them kick up dirt better than I could before. Is this still a problem?
creator: Xpert
date: 2011-09-08T18:10:36-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: I applaud the efforts and patience of Tiberian Technologies over the last few years. Despite the traumatic effects cheating has had on this community it is my hope that this will breathe some life back into a classic game. The automatic download of fan maps was a great decision and the application of a built-in anti-cheat may rebuild my confidence in the integrity of this game. I am always pleased to see the persistence of those opposed to cheating. Well done! If there is anything you need, please do not hesitate to ask. /r PS> Any word from Electronic Arts on releasing this as an official patch?
creator: fl00d3d
date: 2011-09-08T18:17:23-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: ho hell yea guys, thanks a looooooooooooooooot for this. i have a simple question, do i have to uninstall scripts 3.44 befor install TT?
creator: NACHO-ARG
date: 2011-09-08T18:35:12-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: NACHO-ARG wrote on Thu, 08 September 2011 21:35 ho hell yea guys, thanks a looooooooooooooooot for this. i have a simple question, do i have to uninstall scripts 3.44 befor install TT? no, just install 4.0 and will work
creator: sla.ro(master)
date: 2011-09-08T18:56:43-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Epic job guys.
creator: Sean
date: 2011-09-08T19:15:43-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Big thanks guys!
creator: YazooGang
date: 2011-09-08T20:25:28-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Just wanted to ensure; is triggerbot blocked aswell, along with several programs such as CHET NAEM BLUCKED which try to inject in the process. Can these injections be blocked?
creator: Prulez
date: 2011-09-08T20:45:00-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: I cant connect to anything...just times out when it tries to get the server list
creator: grant89uk
date: 2011-09-08T20:59:26-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Not sure if this is the place to post errors.. but: Everytime I start TT, I get this error: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/708/52503915.png and http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/708/52503915.png I check my ren folder, and both files are there :/ EDIT: I am using TFD.
creator: Gohax
date: 2011-09-08T21:03:37-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: You linked to the same picture twice. Try redownloading 4.0 and install it.
creator: cmatt42
date: 2011-09-08T21:08:12-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Basically, it says that bhs.dll was not found, but it was in my renegade folder. Secondly, after I click ok it says that there was an error in scripts.dll I have reinstalled it many times, nothing changes.
creator: Gohax
date: 2011-09-08T21:11:51-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Yea ive tried reinstalling twice and it still times out upon trying to retrieve the server list... Thing is i cant launch renegade any other way now. Anyone got any ideas lol?
creator: grant89uk
date: 2011-09-08T21:16:33-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: grant89uk wrote on Thu, 08 September 2011 14:16 Yea ive tried reinstalling twice and it still times out upon trying to retrieve the server list... Thing is i cant launch renegade any other way now. Anyone got any ideas lol? I'm just going to do a fresh install of TFD. Install TT from that and see what happens.
creator: Gohax
date: 2011-09-08T21:17:29-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: woandre wrote on Thu, 08 September 2011 13:27 Very nice This might change my opinion about scripts and make me download it But first I wait till ALL bugs are fixed, seeing people got problems with it already Odds are you're probably going to end up having to download it regardless when it's complete. I'm having a couple of problems. First When click on UAC Launcher and Tiberian Technologies Launcher, it just shows that is downloading an update and update finish. Are those just for updates or are they supposed to start the game too? The other problem I'm having is when i use game.exe is takes forever and a day for the game to load. And when I go to join a server it stops half for for a good 30 seconds and then lets me join. This is really irritating. Lastly is RR going to be working with this? I don't like having to use a DC line or go through wol
creator: slayer21
date: 2011-09-08T21:17:49-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: do not use RR with TT. try use something alternative, example: gamespy or something similar, or why not WOL (i don't like it too) edit: RR uses direct connect..
creator: sla.ro(master)
date: 2011-09-08T21:23:19-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: OpTic wrote on Thu, 08 September 2011 14:11 I have reinstalled it many times, nothing changes. Yeah, but did you redownload the entire installer? It could have been corrupt.
creator: cmatt42
date: 2011-09-08T21:33:58-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Completely fresh install of Ren (TFD) installed TT patch and it still crashes on startup :/
creator: Gohax
date: 2011-09-08T21:35:26-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: I have an error, whenever I click on the TT launcher, it said renegade failed to start. If I click on renegade itself. It said renegade did not start via the launcher. Any help?
creator: Tupolev TU-95 Bear
date: 2011-09-08T21:39:01-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Tupolev TU-95 Bear wrote on Thu, 08 September 2011 14:39 I have an error, whenever I click on the TT launcher, it said renegade failed to start. If I click on renegade itself. It said renegade did not start via the launcher. Any help? Basically what I'm getting.
creator: Gohax
date: 2011-09-08T21:39:52-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: guys, try following 1. disable User Account Control (see on google how to disable it) - only Windows Vista/7 2. try reinstalling renegade on a empty folder (new install) and with latest ren patch, after that apply 4.0 patch. 3. try get Windows Updates (on vista/7 are some issues, those updates will fix them) 4. if those not work, then try install this 5. if still not work then idk, try report it. note: do not use RR, because TT not working with RR.
creator: sla.ro(master)
date: 2011-09-08T21:45:45-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Ive went back to my older installation until all bugs are ironed out. General feel wasnt too great though...tried to play on jelly marathon for a few minutes and whilst I appeared to hit a few people the shots didnt register and then i would still be lag killed. Not good
creator: grant89uk
date: 2011-09-08T22:01:47-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: You can use RR as a launcher.
creator: Manuel857
date: 2011-09-08T22:04:52-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: grant89uk wrote on Thu, 08 September 2011 18:01 Ive went back to my older installation until all bugs are ironed out. General feel wasnt too great though...tried to play on jelly marathon for a few minutes and whilst I appeared to hit a few people the shots didnt register and then i would still be lag killed. Not good You must be the only person who has this issue. Try reporting it in-depth so it can be fixed.
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2011-09-08T22:09:59-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: My renegade seems to have a runtime error for some reason.. Followed by an internal error so it cant run properly
creator: Tupolev TU-95 Bear
date: 2011-09-08T22:14:19-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: I tried re-installing ren and applied the patch. The game still takes effin forever to load. edit: the TT Launcher now works for me ever since I re-installed, doesn't just say updating. I didn't have this long of loading time before 4.0. I have a decent machine.
creator: slayer21
date: 2011-09-08T22:31:09-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: It takes three seconds to load on my machine from 2007.
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2011-09-08T22:50:23-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: I installed tt on 4 computers with xp, vista 64 bit and win7 64 bit and have had no issues with any of them. It installed over the 3.44 scripts and RR without any problems. I am using the original Renegade game with core patch 1 and 2. Only thing I would like to see is the RR launcher instead of xwis but not a big deal. Great job guys and gal. Now make this thing mandatory.
creator: STEREODOG
date: 2011-09-08T22:54:18-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: slayer21 wrote on Fri, 09 September 2011 00:31 I tried re-installing ren and applied the patch. The game still takes effin forever to load. edit: the TT Launcher now works for me ever since I re-installed, doesn't just say updating. I didn't have this long of loading time before 4.0. I have a decent machine. By "the game", do you mean that it takes ages to load before you can access the main menu, or when you are joining a game? Loading the first game you join may take longer than before, because it is preloading stuff so that lag later on can be avoided. Any next map you load should be pretty fast though. Note that previous versions of scripts.dll loaded faster because they did not do all preloading, which indeed caused lag. The issue where it reports than bhs.dll could not be found indicates that the scripts.dll file (and possibly others) are not the files that were distributed with TT. bhs.dll no longer exists, and was replaced by several other files. Is it possible that the installer failed to overwrite these files, beacuse for example the game was running when you installed it? Can you try to restart the game and reinstall TT to see if that fixes it? To Tupolev TU-95 Bear, and OpTic: can you please contact me via IM? You can contact me on IRC on irc.n00bstories.com or irc.blackintel.org in channel #blackintel, or on some other IM network (details are in my forum profile). That may make it much faster and easier for me to see what's going on and to fix any bugs that are causing the problems you're facing. As for RR and TT, as I mentioned in my previous post, you can use the RR launcher, but you will see a warning message when you start the game. You can ignore this. We will try to find a better solution for this in the next release.
creator: StealthEye
date: 2011-09-08T23:00:18-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Congratz on the public release! ...time to go install Renegade again...
creator: a000clown
date: 2011-09-08T23:37:06-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: @Stealtheye I'll add you on MSN. However I cant talk to you now. Ill do it tomorrow.
creator: Tupolev TU-95 Bear
date: 2011-09-08T23:44:00-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: i ppl there is any way to run TT among whit models replacement? i know that my opinion is not relevant but if i cant use them, i am afraid i will keep using 3.44, so hope this wont be forsed upon players or most probably i will stop playing ren , i know some models can give you advantages over otters, but that kind of stuf are easy detected actually i belive, though i have no problem whit the disabled BB, but i am sure i am not the onlyone that loves to customize his ren, and prevent player of use some of his weapons/chars models can probably harm the game instead of impruve it, but again it is just my silly opinion.
creator: NACHO-ARG
date: 2011-09-08T23:52:37-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: StealthEye wrote on Thu, 08 September 2011 16:00 slayer21 wrote on Fri, 09 September 2011 00:31 I tried re-installing ren and applied the patch. The game still takes effin forever to load. edit: the TT Launcher now works for me ever since I re-installed, doesn't just say updating. I didn't have this long of loading time before 4.0. I have a decent machine. By "the game", do you mean that it takes ages to load before you can access the main menu, or when you are joining a game? Loading the first game you join may take longer than before, because it is preloading stuff so that lag later on can be avoided. Any next map you load should be pretty fast though. Note that previous versions of scripts.dll loaded faster because they did not do all preloading, which indeed caused lag. The issue where it reports than bhs.dll could not be found indicates that the scripts.dll file (and possibly others) are not the files that were distributed with TT. bhs.dll no longer exists, and was replaced by several other files. Is it possible that the installer failed to overwrite these files, beacuse for example the game was running when you installed it? Can you try to restart the game and reinstall TT to see if that fixes it? To Tupolev TU-95 Bear, and OpTic: can you please contact me via IM? You can contact me on IRC on irc.n00bstories.com or irc.blackintel.org in channel #blackintel, or on some other IM network (details are in my forum profile). That may make it much faster and easier for me to see what's going on and to fix any bugs that are causing the problems you're facing. As for RR and TT, as I mentioned in my previous post, you can use the RR launcher, but you will see a warning message when you start the game. You can ignore this. We will try to find a better solution for this in the next release. Will get on IRC now and see if we can get this fixed.
creator: Gohax
date: 2011-09-08T23:54:54-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: StealthEye wrote on Thu, 08 September 2011 19:00 slayer21 wrote on Fri, 09 September 2011 00:31 I tried re-installing ren and applied the patch. The game still takes effin forever to load. edit: the TT Launcher now works for me ever since I re-installed, doesn't just say updating. I didn't have this long of loading time before 4.0. I have a decent machine. By "the game", do you mean that it takes ages to load before you can access the main menu, or when you are joining a game? Loading the first game you join may take longer than before, because it is preloading stuff so that lag later on can be avoided. Any next map you load should be pretty fast though. Note that previous versions of scripts.dll loaded faster because they did not do all preloading, which indeed caused lag. The issue where it reports than bhs.dll could not be found indicates that the scripts.dll file (and possibly others) are not the files that were distributed with TT. bhs.dll no longer exists, and was replaced by several other files. Is it possible that the installer failed to overwrite these files, beacuse for example the game was running when you installed it? Can you try to restart the game and reinstall TT to see if that fixes it? To Tupolev TU-95 Bear, and OpTic: can you please contact me via IM? You can contact me on IRC on irc.n00bstories.com or irc.blackintel.org in channel #blackintel, or on some other IM network (details are in my forum profile). That may make it much faster and easier for me to see what's going on and to fix any bugs that are causing the problems you're facing. As for RR and TT, as I mentioned in my previous post, you can use the RR launcher, but you will see a warning message when you start the game. You can ignore this. We will try to find a better solution for this in the next release. Both the main menu and joining a server. Even when I do direct connect the screen stays black for a few moments with the busy signal on my cursor. My buddies say they are getting ingam…
creator: slayer21
date: 2011-09-09T00:43:14-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Thanks to all members of TT, Hoping for increased player base with this release. Cheers!
creator: Mauler
date: 2011-09-09T01:19:24-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: OpTic's problem is fixed. The problem was that commands.txt (and other files) were marked hidden, so that the game could not write to them. I have no idea how that happened, but it's unlikely that anyone else will experience it. slayer21, I'll add you on MSN. Maybe we can solve the problem that way. NACHO-ARG, any model changes on your client will have to be validated by the server owner, that's the only way to prevent cheats with modified models. You will have to ask the owners of the server(s) you play on to validate your model and add it to the anti-cheat whitelist. It's somewhat inconvenient indeed, but it's the only way to make it secure.
creator: StealthEye
date: 2011-09-09T02:14:39-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: StealthEye wrote on Thu, 08 September 2011 19:14 OpTic's problem is fixed. The problem was that commands.txt (and other files) were marked hidden, so that the game could not write to them. I have no idea how that happened, but it's unlikely that anyone else will experience it. slayer21, I'll add you on MSN. Maybe we can solve the problem that way. NACHO-ARG, any model changes on your client will have to be validated by the server owner, that's the only way to prevent cheats with modified models. You will have to ask the owners of the server(s) you play on to validate your model and add it to the anti-cheat whitelist. It's somewhat inconvenient indeed, but it's the only way to make it secure. Thanks a lot Stealtheye. Really appeciate man. And, wierd how something so simple causes a problem that big -_-
creator: Gohax
date: 2011-09-09T02:33:48-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: StealthEye wrote on Thu, 08 September 2011 22:14 slayer21, I'll add you on MSN. Maybe we can solve the problem that way. Thanks for the offer. I'm going out of town for a week tomorrow morning, I'll hit ya up when I get back.
creator: slayer21
date: 2011-09-09T03:21:45-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: The server lists shows all servers with a ping somewhere between 200-2000 although this is false info I will do a lets play of renegade single player in the future so I really hope I can get past the invisible mobius for that
creator: candc5297
date: 2011-09-09T04:26:14-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: I was playing on C&C_Fjord.mix in St0rm and the game crashed with this message: --------------------------- Something bad happened. Press Ctrl-C on this message and paste it in the forums. {11, 1} [26.415880, 266.142761, 1.086971] <-0.231041, 0.671641 0.665647, -0.228979> ---------------------------
creator: Goonhaven
date: 2011-09-09T04:28:37-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Finally! Now we anxiously await the new CNC Reborn release.
creator: crazfulla
date: 2011-09-09T06:33:12-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: I would like to encourage everyone who meets bugs to create a topic for it. It will make things much easier to follow up than when everyone posts their bug reports in here. Always try to add as much info as possible regarding the bug, if possible with screenshots and a way to replicate the bug. Thanks.
creator: Goztow
date: 2011-09-09T06:53:57-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: StealthEye wrote on Thu, 08 September 2011 19:14 NACHO-ARG, any model changes on your client will have to be validated by the server owner, that's the only way to prevent cheats with modified models. You will have to ask the owners of the server(s) you play on to validate your model and add it to the anti-cheat whitelist. It's somewhat inconvenient indeed, but it's the only way to make it secure. thanks for sowing some interest in my conserns , but the game will run original models even in single player, and besides, most servers are not runing TT yet, am i right? so i thought this may be unable in the client, and not a conflict whit the server file database, just wanted to know about this, cause ren is the only game i care about and i would´nt like to stop playing because i cant use the things i like and i have never cheated and never been baned, besides biatch/whatever can detect big heads and stuf like that, whit out preventing you of use normal size models, so felt kind of disapointed when i tested the patch, sorry for the negativity, i dont want to be an ass, i do respect a lot the work you all have done whit this, i just dont want to see my gameplay eperiance afected for this issue, hope this can be fixed or at least that i could keep runing 3.44 in the future whit out been forsed to run TT. anyway again, thanks for your response.
creator: NACHO-ARG
date: 2011-09-09T07:33:05-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: The file-based cheat detection is done by the server. If the server does not have the file on its "approved" list, the server will reject the player.
creator: jonwil
date: 2011-09-09T08:18:47-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Great job on releasing this beta! I hope it will give Renegade what is needs In terms of custom models I thought you guys where adding a setting for server owners in terms of custommodels=no and then it would only load w3d-data from the always.dat (kinda like a semi-pureserver?) Or like allow certain weaponmodels / skins (c4skin=no etc) Now I wont be drastic and say I wont play ren anymore but going to server owners and ask if they allow a customweaponmodel isnt gona work.
creator: Reaver11
date: 2011-09-09T08:24:05-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Of course that will work. It just depends on the server owner.
creator: Goztow
date: 2011-09-09T09:13:01-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: I have a possible idea but I dont want to talk about it publicly until I talk to the guys about it.
creator: jonwil
date: 2011-09-09T10:19:35-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: I would have thought 4.0 would detect and remove any files that are associated with known cheats ONLY. After all we know the files. Then any updates would be on the new cheats that come out. Seems simple enough to me. Why take this further and dis-allow skins etc. that communities have placed publicly for download? There goes our freedom of choice to join any server because one owner won't allow something another will. I thought this was going to address cheaters, not clean players. Owners should have met with TT and given them all the files in their respective DL sections and already made those approved. Regards, Wyld
creator: Wyld1USA
date: 2011-09-09T12:47:02-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: One community might disallow a file that another community allows. A server owner can manually add files to their approved list with achash.exe and anticheat.ini. Using a white list is needed because it's easy to perform some minor changes on .w3d model hacks so their hash is different, this would allow them to circumvent the anticheat for that particular file they edited.
creator: iRANian
date: 2011-09-09T13:07:19-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Excellent work all! Had a few games now...I love the fix for widescreen! Very smooth gameplay all around. One thing to note; the beacon laying sound didn't play when I nuked a Ref on Complex a few mins ago. Spoony, can you confirm if you (as a Patch) heard the nuke laying sound? I don't think we heard it. Can this be fixed? The beacon sound should play each time imo or there's a few secs advantage.
creator: Starbuzz
date: 2011-09-09T13:12:11-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: just allow clearscope and a custom reticle, all u really need
creator: Hitman
date: 2011-09-09T13:12:35-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: NACHO-ARG, I don't know why it would show the original models in single player. The anti-cheat is not active in that case. TT will also not block any changes, it will prevent you from joining the server instead, showing the file that is not allowed. Again, you will have to talk to the server owner to get your models approved; there is no other way to block model cheats unfortunately. Bighead is only partially blocked by BIATCH, it is still possible to fool it by making models specifically designed to work with BIATCH. I realize it is inconvenient, and we are working on a way to make it less inconvenient by allowing server owners to easily share the set of allowed files. Reaver11, indeed, that was the original intent. Unfortunately it did not make it for the beta though. Hoepfully we can still implement something like that during the beta period. Wyld1USA, blacklisting would not work, because people can easily adapt files to have a different hash even without making any changes to the model. Server owners also do not always agree on the files that are approved. We will try to make some set of "generally approved" files though. Thanks for reporting that bug Starbuzz.
creator: StealthEye
date: 2011-09-09T13:53:17-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: What's up with not being able to reload guns that have full or over full clips? In addition, thanks for (intentionally or not) fixing both the NVidia texture flicker and primitives guys, told jonwil and saberhawk 6 months or so ago but I figure more people worked on it then that probably.
creator: Jerad2142
date: 2011-09-09T14:04:13-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Clear scope is a cheat and pretty much every custom reticle is dozen times better than the stock one, the stock reticle is pretty much the worst design you can have for a reticle.
creator: iRANian
date: 2011-09-09T14:35:43-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: iRANian wrote on Fri, 09 September 2011 08:35 Clear scope is a cheat and pretty much every custom reticle is dozen times better than the stock one, the stock reticle is pretty much the worst design you can have for a reticle. I do not know about that, I find some of those cross reticles obstruct your view when trying to shoot small targets.
creator: Jerad2142
date: 2011-09-09T14:58:33-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: The biggest issue is the outer circle on the reticle, it's useless. Did you ever try a Quake 1/Counter-Strike-style reticle or one that's a small dot? The APB reticle for example makes it a lot easier to shoot targets in the distance.
creator: iRANian
date: 2011-09-09T15:21:43-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Nice work.
creator: Mikeybalz
date: 2011-09-09T15:33:47-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: iRANian wrote on Fri, 09 September 2011 09:21 The biggest issue is the outer circle on the reticle, it's useless. Did you ever try a Quake 1/Counter-Strike-style reticle or one that's a small dot? The APB reticle for example makes it a lot easier to shoot targets in the distance. It's not useless, outer circle shows where the center of your screen is, dot shows what mesh you're going to hit, so if there is a tree blocking your shot in third person it lines on that tree instead of the center of the screen.
creator: Jerad2142
date: 2011-09-09T15:36:48-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Yeah, the issue with that compared to something like the APB reticle is that the circle is so large you still have trouble with getting the exact middle of the screen, it's annoying when you have to shoot up sloped terrain, for example shooting the hill from Nod's base entrance. With APB's reticle it's easier to see if you're hitting the edge of hill or the enemy unit on it. It's worse with vsync on as it makes the reticle update slowly.
creator: iRANian
date: 2011-09-09T16:00:29-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: I can't wait to try this out over the weekend!
creator: Creed3020
date: 2011-09-09T16:15:24-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: i think when i used RR it had better graphics then using 4.0 beta.
creator: Manuel857
date: 2011-09-09T18:52:45-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Then use WWconfig to make sure your graphicsettings are the same, as RR doesn't change the GFX as far as I know.
creator: EvilWhiteDragon
date: 2011-09-09T18:58:57-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: This topic needs more views.
creator: iRANian
date: 2011-09-09T23:10:46-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: is it possible to turn off the widescreen fix i dont like the way it looks now and all the players are twitching all over the place
creator: Nurple
date: 2011-09-10T01:29:49-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Nurple wrote on Fri, 09 September 2011 18:29 is it possible to turn off the widescreen fix i dont like the way it looks now and all the players are twitching all over the place Yeah, it's happening to me too :/ The only server they aren't twitching on (as I have noticed so far) are servers that are running 4.0. I think any server not running 4.0, the characters glitch/twitch/whatever you want to call it.
creator: Gohax
date: 2011-09-10T07:23:57-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Glitching/twitching?
creator: iRANian
date: 2011-09-10T10:27:35-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: all the characters look like they are having siezures hard to explain
creator: Nurple
date: 2011-09-10T10:42:16-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: What server is that on?
creator: iRANian
date: 2011-09-10T10:46:04-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Jerad Gray wrote on Fri, 09 September 2011 14:04 What's up with not being able to reload guns that have full or over full clips? That is lame. And I've Noticed that when I've installed the patch it removed all sounds & animations. Sounds that were included in CP1&2 like "I got a present for ya" when you deploy a remote c4 and the same thing with timed c4. And the only animation that was removed was the oblisk effects example in the attachment. Its not the end of the world without those things but its kinda strange T.T beta patch was great but it still have some things to fix, e.g wide screen and other things etc..
creator: Dentes
date: 2011-09-10T11:34:17-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: atomix
creator: Nurple
date: 2011-09-10T11:48:58-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: Probably has something to do with RR server's terrible netcode.
creator: iRANian
date: 2011-09-10T12:21:12-00:00

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta!
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description: I just wanted to thank everyone involved in making this patch, I appreciate your time and effort. The major additions such as the map downloader, the anti-cheat, and so on are just awesome with seamless implementation. Got a few major issues, but with any luck they will be addressed in the future if this thing takes.
creator: teardrinker
date: 2011-09-10T15:22:56-00:00