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Player is Mobilest0rm 0:40 no tracer or sound in the kill shot, plus low health. Get used to seeing that. 1:17 Shows clouds next to his gun letting me know he was using cheats...how nice. 2:02 no sound or tracer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9KjBcEpuKU 0:28 What do you no, no sound or tracer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoSVeO-tgxg 0:10 See the pattern yet, I hope? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLybvzMnkgs 0:09 How interesting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-UuWjhRY_I 0:30 OOPS! Someone slipped up and spectate killed me. No tracer, no sound, and through the wall. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxP_FyFpvZg 0:12 Pause directly before I turn around, every single bullet hole is in the wall, yet he head shotted his target with more than 1 bullet, judging by his health. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtgRj8c2E8c 0:12 Dude, you're giving it away to much. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaiUlpiLsok 0:08 You get the picture. 0:53 Amusing how you always have tracers until you get low health, then your tracer goes missing and you never miss. 1:16 . 1:27 K. http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOldGot#p/u/7/YwOIx5MKA60 0:06 1:01 http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOldGot#p/u/4/eNMi4WpNHWs Might as well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBFIFcmW00Y Plenty of people realize it dude.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbKMRnpHvQ4 I know it's a lot to sort through, but I need your guys's thoughts on this. I personally see it as blatant cheating. These were all recorded in 2 games, in 10 minutes time. I'm posting here because he is an admin at st0rm who st0rm seems to find innocent of cheats.
Only MobileSt0rm?
St0rm is infested with these cheating fucktards. Half of the moderators is on cheating-acid and they don't care one single bit. Wilo is king and if he wants his little minions to stay, they stay. Biggest asshole community I've ever seen (and I've seen a lot!).
Spyder wrote on Tue, 12 April 2011 02:28 St0rm is infested with these cheating fucktards. Half of the moderators is on cheating-acid and they don't care one single bit. Wilo is king and if he wants his little minions to stay, they stay. Biggest asshole community I've ever seen (and I've seen a lot!). Wow serious issues with you Spyder. You even know who the moderators are? I bet not. They don't care? LOL yeah you are a great source to know this. WTF is a asshole Community? What has your panties in such a wad about st0rm? Jealous that st0rm is a fun community where we all get a long and have a good base of regular players? To all: we take cheaters very seriously and have the same issues that any other community has from time to time. If we have a cheating mod, it will get sorted. It has in the past and I know it has in other communities. I can speak to facts as I have been a part of most communities since the start of Renegade.
I joined the server like 5times in the last months, no 10 minutes and i got killed from Mr.IDONSHEETISWEAR. I don't speak about any weird possible lag shots, i think the st0rm server is the best place to abuse for our cheat friends.
Wyld1USA wrote on Tue, 12 April 2011 14:04 Spyder wrote on Tue, 12 April 2011 02:28 St0rm is infested with these cheating fucktards. Half of the moderators is on cheating-acid and they don't care one single bit. Wilo is king and if he wants his little minions to stay, they stay. Biggest asshole community I've ever seen (and I've seen a lot!). Wow serious issues with you Spyder. You even know who the moderators are? I bet not. They don't care? LOL yeah you are a great source to know this. WTF is a asshole Community? What has your panties in such a wad about st0rm? Jealous that st0rm is a fun community where we all get a long and have a good base of regular players? To all: we take cheaters very seriously and have the same issues that any other community has from time to time. If we have a cheating mod, it will get sorted. It has in the past and I know it has in other communities. I can speak to facts as I have been a part of most communities since the start of Renegade. Apparently, you don't know me. I have contributed to the st0rm community in the past. There was no thank you or whatsoever, the only thing I got in return was a perma-ban until my ISP renewed my IP address. These days I still join the server every now and then and nothing has changed. Still the same moderators (and yes, I DO know them). Definition of an "asshole community": st0rm gaming I heard Wilo say: "I want st0rm to become one of the biggest communities ???(renegade, world, something, can't remember exactly) has ever seen. Well, if he continues to play it like this, he is far from becoming what he desires.
So to actually be on topic: Hate - What cheat are you accusing this player off? (I don't know him so im not defending im just curious) If its RGH...I dont remember it disabling tracers? http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOldGot#p/u/7/YwOIx5MKA60 1:27 - I have to admit.. LOL
Spyder wrote on Tue, 12 April 2011 06:34 Wyld1USA wrote on Tue, 12 April 2011 14:04 Spyder wrote on Tue, 12 April 2011 02:28 St0rm is infested with these cheating fucktards. Half of the moderators is on cheating-acid and they don't care one single bit. Wilo is king and if he wants his little minions to stay, they stay. Biggest asshole community I've ever seen (and I've seen a lot!). Wow serious issues with you Spyder. You even know who the moderators are? I bet not. They don't care? LOL yeah you are a great source to know this. WTF is a asshole Community? What has your panties in such a wad about st0rm? Jealous that st0rm is a fun community where we all get a long and have a good base of regular players? To all: we take cheaters very seriously and have the same issues that any other community has from time to time. If we have a cheating mod, it will get sorted. It has in the past and I know it has in other communities. I can speak to facts as I have been a part of most communities since the start of Renegade. Apparently, you don't know me. I have contributed to the st0rm community in the past. There was no thank you or whatsoever, the only thing I got in return was a perma-ban until my ISP renewed my IP address. These days I still join the server every now and then and nothing has changed. Still the same moderators (and yes, I DO know them). Definition of an "asshole community": st0rm gaming I heard Wilo say: "I want st0rm to become one of the biggest communities ???(renegade, world, something, can't remember exactly) has ever seen. Well, if he continues to play it like this, he is far from becoming what he desires. if i remember correctly wasnt it your brother that ended up getting you perma banned after many many chances to change his attitude? Anyway, i love reneDrama
rebdog wrote on Tue, 12 April 2011 18:13 if i remember correctly wasnt it your brother that ended up getting you perma banned after many many chances to change his attitude? Anyway, i love reneDrama He gave an IP ranged ban because of my brother. Then when I started using proxies he decided to ban me too for evading the IP ban.
From what I recall in Renegade, this just looks like you and he might just be lagging a bit. It's especially indicative that in those Patch videos, those Sakuras don't seem to see you in front of them for at least a second.
cmatt42 wrote on Tue, 12 April 2011 11:10 From what I recall in Renegade, this just looks like you and he might just be lagging a bit. It's especially indicative that in those Patch videos, those Sakuras don't seem to see you in front of them for at least a second. It's not lag. Tracers can be non visible with lag, but lack of sound or muzzle flash cannot. Only rgh, rof, and FR can have such a thing occur.
I think rapid fire. If I remember correctly, there's no rapid fire detection in St0rm.
It is indeed rapid fire. Now it's just up to the st0rm mods to realize it and ban him. Who wants to take bets on it not happening? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfLnmq-UeNM
Good job, HaTe. It was quiet funny in the last video that once Mobile figured out I was frapsing his fucking cheating ass, he got spooked and never came to the air tunnel and less than 3 mins later, he leaves. I was told last week [by a junior St0rm mod] that Mobilest0rm is "ADMIN OF ST0RM EUROPE" (HURR DURR KISS MY ASS WITH THAT TITLE) and that it will be suicidal to suggest he is cheating without proof. Wyld1USA wrote on Tue, 12 April 2011 05:04 To all: we take cheaters very seriously and have the same issues that any other community has from time to time. If we have a cheating mod, it will get sorted. It has in the past and I know it has in other communities. I can speak to facts as I have been a part of most communities since the start of Renegade. [/b] Good to hear. So what will the powers-that-be at St0rm do now? In these videos, we have done a lot of the work for you already (which you should have been doing) and your man is not clean. Next move is yours, Wyld. rebdog wrote on Tue, 12 April 2011 09:13 if i remember correctly wasnt it your brother that ended up getting you perma banned after many many chances to change his attitude? Anyway, i love reneDrama I don't think the topic of a obvious cheater counts as "ReneDrama" tbh. Nice try, though. Weren't you a mod of sorts at St0rm when you tried all kinds of xxxx in-game that was against the rules?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiaeXlfvGqc Theres the video from the other side of the last video hate posted up. so you see what happening on both sides. primary fire = normal secondary = obvious rof (no sound, no tracer, just mad killing) And I was able to make that test version in about 10 total minutes (including installing the needed tools)
i don't care what st0rm does with him but he's banned at jelly thanks for the heads-up
The sad thing about this is: - Mobilest0rm calls himself one of the veteran snipers on st0rm and it's years of skill instead of hacks. - He's been playing on st0rm for a long time and he's a mod there, so he will probably just kiss Wilo's ass a few times and everything's settled. - Our opinions don't matter (because they're not posted on the st0rm forums afaik). If St0rm doesn't think it's ROF or any other hack, he remains unbanned, because they don't ban because a person has been banned from other servers (for the same damn reason). - Admin of St0rm Europe? WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH LOL! ARE THEY FUCKING SERIOUS? Really, don't expect anything to happen even though we all know he's hacking. The same happened to rebdog if I'm not mistaken. A while back he got banned for cheating or something, but after a few weeks he was playing on the server again. Conclusion: Cheating on st0rm is good, telling the moderators to do their jobs is bad. Let me tell you the reason why st0rm kept on banning my brother (and me, ip bans all the time). My brother hates hackers, so do most of us. Now st0rm has this "nifty", read useless, command called !requestmod. With this you can inform in-game moderators about certain people cheating their asses off. This system is supposed to make the moderator's job less difficult, which it does, because 99% of the time they just ignore it. My brother got sick of them ignoring the !requestmod message's. By that time, he knew precisely who was a moderator and who wasn't. I think he even knew their ranks (moderator, admin, head admin etc.). So whenever they didn't respond, he just sent them a PM. Then the mods always started ranting in ways as: "Get off my back", "He's not cheating, trust me." etc. The "He's not cheating, trust me"-line always pissed off my brother. It's their job to check it out, but they never checked anything out. So then he started sending more PM's like: "I don't care what you think, it's your job as a moderator to check out the situation.". Then there was always this little prick called "Tiny" (something to do with the size of his dick), who was reading each and every PM from my brother to the mods. He then started ranting and bitching in public from IRC. This included threatening with bans, perma bans, mutes and a lot more. Even though my brother never cursed at the moderators and always kept things formal, they got so pissed off that each and every time the mods started fueling the fire by cursing at him and threatening him with mutes. Then my brother usually started giving them a summary of what was going on in-game. The things the moderator's weren't doing, like answering mod requests, checking out situations, being friendly to the players and some more. Whenever he started saying this, they got offended. They started adding more fuel to the fire and every time there were some more players who got involved. I did too, telling people to "Shut the hell up and discuss this in private". Whenever I did this the mods told me to "Stay out of it and mind my own business". When I told them "No", they'd mute me for not obeying their orders. Then the argument between my brother and the mods went on and on, until eventually, the moderators realized that my brother was actually right and that they were not going to win this argument. When they realized this, they always "felt necessary" to ban our IP for (24 hours, a week, a month, permanently). This happened each and every time we joined st0rm. There were even moderators who started challenging my brother as soon as he got in-game. People told him: "Pirate, I hate your personality. You're an asshole.", even though he was right and the mods were wrong. For me, st0rm is just a sad, sad community. I suggest we all stop playing there from this day on, they don't deserve it to have a Renegade server. Actually, it's not really a Renegade server. They are the ones who raped the game with their !backup, !turret, !b rail etc.
Call me stupid, but why does everyone seem to play on St0rm and at the same time complaining that they are cheating fags? I've heard this many, many times, so ...
Starbuzz wrote on Tue, 12 April 2011 21:01 Weren't you a mod of sorts at St0rm when you tried all kinds of xxxx in-game that was against the rules? I dont know where you got that from, maybe your thinking of something/someone else. If i did anything it would be getting in the bridge and calling backup inside it just for lols. Plus i never said that i didnt think something was wrong with his shots. I tested something of my own here you go... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zbziadlxHE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssCecMn4fqA tbh i think its very possible that he could have used something like this above or rof
Spyder wrote on Wed, 13 April 2011 03:20 The sad thing about this is: - Mobilest0rm calls himself one of the veteran snipers on st0rm and it's years of skill instead of hacks. - He's been playing on st0rm for a long time and he's a mod there, so he will probably just kiss Wilo's ass a few times and everything's settled. - Our opinions don't matter (because they're not posted on the st0rm forums afaik). If St0rm doesn't think it's ROF or any other hack, he remains unbanned, because they don't ban because a person has been banned from other servers (for the same damn reason). - Admin of St0rm Europe? WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH LOL! ARE THEY FUCKING SERIOUS? Really, don't expect anything to happen even though we all know he's hacking. The same happened to rebdog if I'm not mistaken. A while back he got banned for cheating or something, but after a few weeks he was playing on the server again. Conclusion: Cheating on st0rm is good, telling the moderators to do their jobs is bad. Let me tell you the reason why st0rm kept on banning my brother (and me, ip bans all the time). My brother hates hackers, so do most of us. Now st0rm has this "nifty", read useless, command called !requestmod. With this you can inform in-game moderators about certain people cheating their asses off. This system is supposed to make the moderator's job less difficult, which it does, because 99% of the time they just ignore it. My brother got sick of them ignoring the !requestmod message's. By that time, he knew precisely who was a moderator and who wasn't. I think he even knew their ranks (moderator, admin, head admin etc.). So whenever they didn't respond, he just sent them a PM. Then the mods always started ranting in ways as: "Get off my back", "He's not cheating, trust me." etc. The "He's not cheating, trust me"-line always pissed off my brother. It's their job to check it out, but they never checked anything out. So then he started sending more PM's like: "I don't care what you think, it's your job as a moderator to check out the situation.". Then there was always this little prick called "Tiny" (something to do with the size of his dick), who was reading each and every PM from my brother to the mods. He then started ranting and bitching in public from IRC. This included threatening with bans, perma bans, mutes and a lot more. Even though my brother never cursed at the moderators and always kept things formal, they got so pissed off that each and every time the mods started fueling the fire by cursing at him and threatening him with mutes. Then my brother usually started giving them a summary of what was going on in-game. The things the moderator's weren't doing, like answering mod requests, checking out situations, being friendly to the players and some more. Whenever he started saying this, they got offended. They started adding more fuel to the fire and every time there were some more players who got involved. I did too, telling people to "Shut the hell up and discuss this in private". Whenever I did this the mods told me to "Stay out of it and mind my own business". When I told them "No", they'd mute me for not obeying their orders. Then the argument between my brother and the mods went on and on, until eventually, the moderators realized that my brother was actually right and that they were not going to win this argument. When they realized this, they always "felt necessary" to ban our IP for (24 hours, a week, a month, permanently). This happened each and every time we joined st0rm. There were even moderators who started challenging my brother as soon as he got in-game. People told him: "Pirate, I hate your personality. You're an asshole.", even though he was right and the mods were wrong. For me, st0rm is just a sad, sad community. I suggest we all stop playing there from this day on, they don't deserve it to have a Renegade server. Actually, it's not really a Renegade server. They are the ones who raped the game with their !backup, !turret, !b rail etc. Wow Spyder that is a lot. I can tell your issues are with the situation with you and your brother and what ever happened then. Sorry though your situation does not correlate to the one with Mobile. But I wish you good luck in dealing with those past evils. Again HaTe's claims are being taken seriously and if the proof is conclusive, action will be taken. I have seen it taken at st0rm when past mods have been caught. Wilo even posted himself stating that Mobile will not get special protections or treatments. Any comments that mods just allow cheating and we ignore modrequests is absurd and just stupid to say. We ignore stupid ones and of course no one would know what a mod is doing from a valid modrequest so naturally peeps would think nothing is done. Oh and Spyder you may know a few Renegade Council members and admins, but 80% of the actual mod staff that guards the servers have been mods for 6 months or less, so you don't know most of them. I find it typical of this situation which every 6 months or so someone is accusing a mod or admin of a community of cheating and the subsequent rage toward the entire community, the owner, the families of the mod staff, their dogs, cars, home, eating habits, etc. which includes the surfacing of old conflicts such as the one with Spyder. EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Wed, 13 April 2011 04:00 Call me stupid, but why does everyone seem to play on St0rm and at the same time complaining that they are cheating fags? I've heard this many, many times, so ... LOL Thanks for this EWD. I fully agree.
I'm not sure if my post was that positive really, but from the complaints I hear everywhere, I just don't understand why people continue to play there...
Bullet hits are done client side, thus they can miss server side and damage is still applied, under lag bullets being fired isn't always detected, which is why sometimes you take damage even though you don't see a client shooting.
Jerad, we have already established that tracers cannot be visible due to lag. Sound is ALWAYS there with a legit player so long as he's not glitching as well, and muzzle flash will also be there 99% if the time. I don't think that a lot of people at st0rm hack, i think that a lot of people accuse people at st0rm all the time because a lot of players at st0rm are nothing more than whiners.I just hate how some mods claim to be so against cheaters there, yet there are a few right under their noses that they are too arrogant to notice.
HaTe wrote on Wed, 13 April 2011 15:07 Jerad, we have already established that tracers cannot be visible due to lag. Sound is ALWAYS there with a legit player so long as he's not glitching as well, and muzzle flash will also be there 99% if the time. I don't think that a lot of people at st0rm hack, i think that a lot of people accuse people at st0rm all the time because a lot of players at st0rm are nothing more than whiners.I just hate how some mods claim to be so against cheaters there, yet there are a few right under their noses that they are too arrogant to notice. As far as St0rm we have a direct path to two individuals that WILL take action if you want to report a mod either cheating or not doing their jobs. We have a message that flashes regularly in the server. I can't think of any other community in my history of Ren that gives that kind of instructions to the players to access a higher power to report a mod. HaTe I also pm'd you a few months ago and told you can also come to me directly if you have concerns or issues and I will see to it an investigation is started or action taken. If you have more names, please pm Troy or applst0rm via our forums and let them know. We will be getting to an end on this subject so stay tuned.
Are you aware that I gave the exact same proof i posted to both kidnamedjoey, and pyromania before i posted? They both said that they let the higher mods know, and both came back saying that there is no evidence of proof there. Even when i posted at st0rm, my topic was moved to the private section so as not to reveal mobile of his cheats to the public. The ONLY reason it was moved back is because I posted here, and wilo then became aware of the situation and made the topic public again. The st0rm mods and admins were trying to cover this up and act like it never happened...they had no intentions of looking into this further, so don't give me that. The only way to expose players like him now-a-days at st0rm is to get valid proof and publicly post about it.
HaTe wrote on Wed, 13 April 2011 15:41 Are you aware that I gave the exact same proof i posted to both kidnamedjoey, and pyromania before i posted? They both said that they let the higher mods know, and both came back saying that there is no evidence of proof there. Even when i posted at st0rm, my topic was moved to the private section so as not to reveal mobile of his cheats to the public. The ONLY reason it was moved back is because I posted here, and wilo then became aware of the situation and made the topic public again. The st0rm mods and admins were trying to cover this up and act like it never happened...they had no intentions of looking into this further, so don't give me that. The only way to expose players like him now-a-days at st0rm is to get valid proof and publicly post about it. No I was not aware so I guess good move to make it public to get Wilo's attention. I doubt Troy or applst0rm knew about this though as they take this seriously and do let the other staff know when a mod is accused. It is standard to move posts about staff to the private section so we can review and discuss it. Having the public involved has proven to be counter productive. Yes it was moved back because st0rm did NOT want to create the perception we were covering up a possible bad mod. Moving it back to the public should show we don't want to hide anything. Like I said we are coming to a decision soon here.
It was only moved back after i did make it public here, and after I contacted wilo about the situation....He shouldn't have to put up with you guys.
HaTe wrote on Wed, 13 April 2011 16:46 It was only moved back after i did make it public here, and after I contacted wilo about the situation....He shouldn't have to put up with you guys. Making Wilo aware was the key and that is our process to put it back to the staff. We judge unbiasedly or we wouldn't have removed the past mods caught using.
So it's a common occurrence for st0rm mods to cheat? How many have there been?
HaTe wrote on Wed, 13 April 2011 14:40 So it's a common occurrence for st0rm mods to cheat? How many have there been? several haha to many to count. Also why go to so much trouble for one noob just don't play at storm problem solved.
I play wherever the player count and map suits me....seeing how there's only 3-4 active aow servers anymore...Besides, they have the right to know he cheats, as does the rest of the ren community.
I am not going to sit here and lie and tell you that St0rm doesn't have its problems. But I can tell you this. You can't sit here and watch every single staff member and scan every single computer and check everyone out ever second. There will always be cheaters in all positions, Players, Moderators, and Admins. I also can't monitor my staff 24 / 7 but I can try to surround myself with people who know what they are doing. I am personally handling this as best I can in my free time and I am sifting though a lot of logs to check and see what I can do about this. People will always diss and smash other communities based on their own experiences there. I apologize to anyone who has had a bad experience at my community and I wish I could fix it for everyone but no community is perfect. I will tell you this, No Staff member is safe from being banned. The reason it is so hard at St0rm to get banned is because we handle all cases as Innocent until proven guilty. That means we don't ban people unless we are 100% sure that they cheat. This may upset some people when they think they are 100% sure that the person is cheating but until we have all the evidence that this person is cheating we do not ban them. When HaTe brought this case to my attention via IRC, I instantly suspended all of Mobile's powers ingame, irc, and on teamspeak. I was not aware of this situation until Hate personally came up to me and told me about it. Out of a gesture of good faith to the Renegade community I asked that the entire investigation be done in public in front of everyone so that there would be no questions at the end. All I ask now is that we stay on topic and handle this situation at hand. After this is over and we solve this, you can go back to insulting me, my community, and my staff, But please lets handle this first. I also ask this, If anyone has a problem with me or my community they come to me directly and tell me and see if we can resolve this. Creating Renedrama on the Renegade Public Forums is not the answer, this isn't 10th grade high school drama bullshit. Be an adult and step up to the plate and have a mature conversation. And for all you thinking Mobile is safe, I am 99% sure now thanks to HaTe's Evidence and also other St0rm Staff's Evidence that he is using ROF and some other cheats. I will be handling this and if he is found to be cheating he will be 100% banned from St0rm and all of its services. Regards, Wilo S. St0rm Network Administrator www.St0rm.net
I have confirmed that he was using a ROF Hack via Gamelogs. He has been fully stripped of his power and removed. I thank Hate and anyone else who brought this to our attention. I will be installing anti ROF scripts on the server tomorrow. 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DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle [19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle [19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle [19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle [19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle [19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle [19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle [19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle [19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle [19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle [19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle [19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle [19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle [19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle [19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle [19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle [19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;10.000000;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle [19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle [19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle [19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle [19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle [19:25:51] _GAMELOG 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DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle [19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle [19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle [19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle [19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;0.080002;Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle [19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;200.000000;Havoc/Ramjet Rifle [19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;105.000000;Havoc/Ramjet Rifle [19:25:51] _SS Mobilest0rm killed [WaR]HaTe (killerpreset> VS Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle) Regards, Wilo S. 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Quote: [19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;200.00000 0;Havoc/Ramjet Rifle [19:25:51] _GAMELOG DAMAGED;SOLDIER;8;CnC_Nod_FlameThrower_2SF;11;CnC_GDI_MiniGunner_3Boss;105.00000 0;Havoc/Ramjet Rifle [19:25:51] _SS Mobilest0rm killed [WaR]HaTe (killerpreset> VS Stealth Black Hand/Laser Rifle) As far as I can see here, he shoots him twice and kills him within a second, unless the timestamps are wrong. However if I'm not mistaken, this is not quite possible with a ramjet because of the recoil time.
Good to see a cheating mod get what he deserves.
See we sorted it. Drama over.
hmm Post the gamelog for that day/hour please. Would be nice to see that and match it up with the videos tbh.
shaitan wrote on Thu, 14 April 2011 08:05 hmm Post the gamelog for that day/hour please. Would be nice to see that and match it up with the videos tbh. I think Wilo and all are pretty much done with this one and want to move on. I know I am. In closing I will say there is NO community that hasn't had their share of mods gone bad. It is just life. There will be more.
Well lets see..gamelogs were the last thing to be used(when it should have been the first). I'd like to see the rest to see if each of his kills match what that one bit shows. If I'm reading that right, there's no coordinates of each player's position. <edit> uploading a vid to go with this logfile I'm putting in here, will link the vid when it's done(20 minutes left to upload that 458mb file, and forgive the sound...just noticed that after my OS reinstall from the other day) . Read from [10:33:06] to [10:34:55]. That's rate of fire against a character. From [10:35:10] to [10:35:16] is rate of fire against a harvester. <Edit #2> screw the vids.
I have submitted all the logs I am willing to submit at this time. I have more detailed logs with xyz cords but they are not needed. The reason it took me so long to get gamelogs is I work 60+ hours a week and don't have time for renedrama. I also had no one tell me what days or time these kills happened. The case is over, he was caught, he admited it too. Regards, Wilo S.
Spyder wrote on Tue, 12 April 2011 06:34 Apparently, you don't know me. I have contributed to the st0rm community in the past. There was no thank you or whatsoever, the only thing I got in return was a perma-ban until my ISP renewed my IP address. You must go by another name then as i have never seen or heared of you. I have been with st0rm since it started and have been a network admin for about 5 years, Not anymore.. I grown up now to realise online games aint the way forward in life.
Thank you wilo for clearing this up and doing what was needed. I have never had an issue with you yourself, but I have had issues with st0rm mods in the past, where you have cleared it up. In my opinion, you are the only one there that can return st0rm back to it's state when moderators were of high quality.
See, I was right lol. Rapid fire.
shaitan wrote on Thu, 14 April 2011 09:58 Well lets see..gamelogs were the last thing to be used(when it should have been the first). I'd like to see the rest to see if each of his kills match what that one bit shows. If I'm reading that right, there's no coordinates of each player's position. <edit> uploading a vid to go with this logfile I'm putting in here, will link the vid when it's done(20 minutes left to upload that 458mb file, and forgive the sound...just noticed that after my OS reinstall from the other day) . Read from [10:33:06] to [10:34:55]. That's rate of fire against a character. From [10:35:10] to [10:35:16] is rate of fire against a harvester. <Edit #2> screw the vids. Why shai, he admitted it. HaTe wrote on Thu, 14 April 2011 14:55 In my opinion, you are the only one there that can return st0rm back to it's state when moderators were of high quality. *cough* *cough* Nice bash! HaTe we have good mods and I include myself in that thank you. Just because one cheated doesn't mean the rest are bad or of low quality. Some have less experience than others. (Like the person you contacted.) Had you contacted me like I asked you a few months ago if you had any problems, I would have escalated it to Wilo, Troy and Appl as your claim obviously had merit. Bottom line this is done. It was one mod, nothing that reflects on our community as a whole and we can all get back to our lives eating cookies and having massive sex. ~cute smile here~
Wilo wrote on Thu, 14 April 2011 16:56 I have submitted all the logs I am willing to submit at this time. I have more detailed logs with xyz cords but they are not needed. The reason it took me so long to get gamelogs is I work 60+ hours a week and don't have time for renedrama. I also had no one tell me what days or time these kills happened. The case is over, he was caught, he admited it too. Regards, Wilo S. xyz logs would be exactly the thing to determine whether or not he was cheating. Without *cheat name removed*he would need to be in a position where he could hit the guy. If he's not, and by not I mean pretty far from not able, then it's likely he's cheating. The SSGM logs don't say much tbh, as the shots and timestamps are to inaccurate (lag issues heh)
Can i see the logs where he admitted to cheating? After denying it several times to me, and even laughing at me calling him a cheater, it'd be nice to see.
@Wilo: Thanks, maybe in the future based on this incident, I think many will now trust St0rm now to send evidence via PM so something is actually done about it. I was surprised at the fast outcome...but then again, the evidence was brutal. @EWD: I play on whatever server my favorite maps are on. So if a cheater is there...well, we are humans and we naturally want to get revenge. @rebdog: Fine. I was just referring to the incident when you tried that glitch in the WF bay with an apache on Walls_Fly. At the time, I thought (and still think) it was totally insane for a MOD to do that in the server he is moderating. And I am pretty sure I am talking about the right rebdog. But it doesn't matter now. @Spyder: Mobile is now ADMIN OF COLD BASEMENT. -- I would like to read the log of him admitting to cheating too... especially after this: Mobile BTW... Its a compliment to have so many accuse me of cheats as I must be skilled
Wyld..notice I said "screw the vids". Wilo was posting as I was editting. ;p
Some have less experience than others. (Like the person you contacted.) What he said, I won't deny that. I did the best I could for those that came to me. But I am not in the position to decide about a staff member, especially not Mobilest0rm. I did what st0rm expected of me, and showed it to those in a high position. If they tell me there is no evidence, I could nothing do about it. As I said before, I had no knowledge about a sound/tracer problem caused by RoF. I need to thank a lot of you, 'cause now I do. Not all of the Moderators on st0rm are bad. There are enough who are ready to help you, no matter what the problem is. You'll just need to find them, and look through the ''past'' problems with old mods on st0rm that some of you had. I see that reaction a lot, but including me; there are a lot of new staff members added in the past few months. Can i see the logs where he admitted to cheating? As far as I know, are there no logs of it. He told some of us via PM's on Facebook. Anyway, see you guys ingame. Regards
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The admission was a private message to someone he was close to that probably knew that person would be losing total respect for. That person confidentially shared it with St0rm staff. I realize you trust us when we tell you he admitted it and seeing his typed words would give some satisfaction. However I respect the person that shared the admission with us so I want to ask that person 1st if it is ok to share publicly as well as Wilo himself. So sit tight I will get that done over this weekend. Catching Wilo is a rough one, I only see him late at night when he gets into bed. LOL EDIT: Bradley if you want to share your message, feel free too. I'm just not sharing Kick's unless he says it is ok.
Wyld1USA wrote on Fri, 15 April 2011 19:13 The admission was a private message to someone he was close to that probably knew that person would be losing total respect for. That person confidentially shared it with St0rm staff. I realize you trust us when we tell you he admitted it and seeing his typed words would give some satisfaction. However I respect the person that shared the admission with us so I want to ask that person 1st if it is ok to share publicly as well as Wilo himself. So sit tight I will get that done over this weekend. Catching Wilo is a rough one, I only see him late at night when he gets into bed. LOL EDIT: Bradley if you want to share your message, feel free too. I'm just not sharing Kick's unless he says it is ok. I hate you for constantly typing bold text.
The irony of this is just amazing. I love it.
Spyder wrote on Fri, 15 April 2011 15:04 Wyld1USA wrote on Fri, 15 April 2011 19:13 The admission was a private message to someone he was close to that probably knew that person would be losing total respect for. That person confidentially shared it with St0rm staff. I realize you trust us when we tell you he admitted it and seeing his typed words would give some satisfaction. However I respect the person that shared the admission with us so I want to ask that person 1st if it is ok to share publicly as well as Wilo himself. So sit tight I will get that done over this weekend. Catching Wilo is a rough one, I only see him late at night when he gets into bed. LOL EDIT: Bradley if you want to share your message, feel free too. I'm just not sharing Kick's unless he says it is ok. I hate you for constantly typing bold text. mmhmm
There's nothing as un-private as a facebook PM .