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ATI
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description: Im having trouble finding a new video card, im looking for an ati radeon one since my motherboard only supports ati crossfire, im asking you guys to help me find a ati radeon video card that -not to big (1 pci-e x16 2.0 slot) -crossfire support -equal or greater to the current nvidia geforce 9600gt i have please help me guys. cant find much without a huge fan on it or something, iv found some with a high newer model number lower rice then an older model, its a little confussing
creator: _SSnipe_
date: 2010-09-13T08:03:29-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: How much are you wanting to spend. Also, I would discourage crossfire, but that's really just personal preference.
creator: slosha
date: 2010-09-13T14:24:40-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: (SSnipe) -BLU3Y3Z- wrote on Mon, 13 September 2010 03:03 -not to big (1 pci-e x16 2.0 slot) XFX makes a single-slot 5770 which is a good mid-range card, and is much faster than the 9600GT. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150501&cm_re=xfx_57 70-_-14-150-501-_-Product
creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2010-09-13T18:19:26-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: If you're willing to wait, the Radeon HD 6000 cards should be coming soon (also rumored to be a brand new architecture). Even if you don't plan on getting one it should cause the prices on older cards to drop. Also just an fyi; ATI branding is being dropped in favor of AMD, so when the new cards come out they'll be AMD Radeon HD 6000 instead. As far as recommendations are concerned, that 9600GT should be easy to beat. Radeon HD 4850 is the lowest you want to go, 5000 series is probably preferable for the DX11 support and nikki6ixx's suggestion would work well.
creator: a000clown
date: 2010-09-13T20:10:36-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: I'm curious though, why do you want a 'single slot' card? Your AsRock board has a lot of space between the PCIe 16x slots so having dual slot cards would be perfectly fine. :/
creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2010-09-13T21:09:39-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: I have an HD 4780 (512mb, but there's a 1gb version out there) that's pretty powerful but came with woefully inadequate cooling. I've replaced the heatsink and now it's perfect. I'm reasonably sure that's an XFX-only issue though. Anyway, don't get that, unless you like ridiculous looking and mostly-worthless cooling systems. Just so you know what to avoid: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150436 Honestly, ATI's naming convetions confuse me. Why is my 4780 better than half the 5xxx series cards? At least I know what I'm getting with geforce, more or less. >:[
creator: Dover
date: 2010-09-14T05:04:57-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: Dover wrote on Tue, 14 September 2010 00:04 I have an HD 4780 (512mb, but there's a 1gb version out there) that's pretty powerful but came with woefully inadequate cooling. I've replaced the heatsink and now it's perfect. I'm reasonably sure that's an XFX-only issue though. Anyway, don't get that, unless you like ridiculous looking and mostly-worthless cooling systems. Just so you know what to avoid: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150436 LOL! I ran a pair of those cards (1GB variants) in Crossfire and they managed to heat half my house. But I never had overheating issues with them. But they're gone, and I have an nVidia GTX 470. It's super nerdtacular! 8]
creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2010-09-14T05:52:12-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: nikki6ixx wrote on Mon, 13 September 2010 22:52 Dover wrote on Tue, 14 September 2010 00:04 I have an HD 4780 (512mb, but there's a 1gb version out there) that's pretty powerful but came with woefully inadequate cooling. I've replaced the heatsink and now it's perfect. I'm reasonably sure that's an XFX-only issue though. Anyway, don't get that, unless you like ridiculous looking and mostly-worthless cooling systems. Just so you know what to avoid: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150436 LOL! I ran a pair of those cards (1GB variants) in Crossfire and they managed to heat half my house. But I never had overheating issues with them. But they're gone, and I have an nVidia GTX 470. It's super nerdtacular! 8] It might have been a dust issue or something, but one day the fan decided to spin at like 40 rpm top speed and make this horrible grinding noise, and because of the way it was built I couldn't get it open without breaking something undoubtedly vital, so I said fuck it and got a heatsink four times the size of the card with twin fans. I'll be damned if anything is overheating now. >:[ Still quite warm in my room. I guess there's no cure for that, though. Edit: And what was with that retarded waterdrop shape? >:[
creator: Dover
date: 2010-09-14T06:22:31-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: Dover wrote on Tue, 14 September 2010 07:04 I have an HD 4780 (512mb, but there's a 1gb version out there) that's pretty powerful but came with woefully inadequate cooling. I've replaced the heatsink and now it's perfect. I'm reasonably sure that's an XFX-only issue though. Anyway, don't get that, unless you like ridiculous looking and mostly-worthless cooling systems. Just so you know what to avoid: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150436 Honestly, ATI's naming convetions confuse me. Why is my 4780 better than half the 5xxx series cards? At least I know what I'm getting with geforce, more or less. >:[ With the lower-end Geforces you'll at least know you'll get a rebadged GF8800GT. And the naming conventions are pretty clear actually. Anything below a HD5770 should perform less than your card, the HD5770 should be a bit better, and anything above the HD5770 should be faster.
creator: EvilWhiteDragon
date: 2010-09-14T06:57:11-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: I'm doing fine with all the new games with my 8800GT, but you want an ATI so I can't help there. Can a single graphics card actually heat the whole room? Is the room really tiny or something?
creator: nopol10
date: 2010-09-14T08:00:11-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Tue, 14 September 2010 16:57 And the naming conventions are pretty clear actually. Anything below a HD5770 should perform less than your card, the HD5770 should be a bit better, and anything above the HD5770 should be faster. you should see a pretty big improvement from a 9600 to a 5770
creator: Boofst0rm
date: 2010-09-14T08:26:27-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: Dover wrote on Tue, 14 September 2010 01:04 Honestly, ATI's naming convetions confuse me. Why is my 4780 better than half the 5xxx series cards? At least I know what I'm getting with geforce, more or less. >:[ The first number is the series. It increases with new features like DX11 support or architecture changes. Second number is the targeted market segment. Budget, mainstream, enthusiast... The higher the number the better the performance. Third number is the variant. You might know it better as GT, PRO, XT or some other suffix. I have no idea what the last number is for, since I've never seen it *not* be 0.
creator: a000clown
date: 2010-09-14T08:32:56-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: Boofst0rm wrote on Tue, 14 September 2010 10:26 EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Tue, 14 September 2010 16:57 And the naming conventions are pretty clear actually. Anything below a HD5770 should perform less than your card, the HD5770 should be a bit better, and anything above the HD5770 should be faster. you should see a pretty big improvement from a 9600 to a 5770 I was taking about Dover's HD4870. But you are right on that part afaik.
creator: EvilWhiteDragon
date: 2010-09-14T13:52:26-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: 5670, 5770, 5850, depending on your budget.
creator: Homey
date: 2010-09-14T21:41:38-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: nikki6ixx - I have 2 "in take blower fans" (pci slot) in there, under my vid card is getting major over heated -tested by a computer tech- also a good card but a little to much for me... a000clown - ill wait, except how much will they come out to be? Dover - thats my problem as well, confussing Boofst0rm - noted =]
creator: _SSnipe_
date: 2010-09-15T04:58:04-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: Strange that you have two intake PCI fans seeing as the case you own is really good. Anyhow, you know you're setup better than anyone here. Unfortunately, single-slot cards are no longer common. If that 5770 is too expensive, then there's the 5670: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150467&cm_re=5670-_ -14-150-467-_-Product This one has a rebate so it can be $79.99 if you fill everything in and mail it off. But here's the thing: this card is only marginally faster than your 9600GT. You likely won't discern much of a difference. Unless you game at 1280x1024, using a card like the 5670 is only a waste of money because it won't be powerful enough to play anything higher. The benchmarks here show you how it performs against a 9600GT: http://www.anandtech.com/show/2917/2 If I were you, instead of buying a new single-slot card, I'd correct whatever problem it is that requires you to run those PCI fans so you can then fit a dual-slot card in that space. You can buy ATI 4870's for about 100 bucks if you look around, and 4850's for cheaper yet.
creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2010-09-15T06:48:58-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: (SSnipe) -BLU3Y3Z- wrote on Tue, 14 September 2010 21:58 Dover - thats my problem as well, confussing I fixed my problem with one of these: http://www.arctic-cooling.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=2_&mID=101
creator: Dover
date: 2010-09-16T02:10:08-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: Dover wrote on Wed, 15 September 2010 19:10 (SSnipe) -BLU3Y3Z- wrote on Tue, 14 September 2010 21:58 Dover - thats my problem as well, confussing I fixed my problem with one of these: http://www.arctic-cooling.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=2_&mID=101 that does look sweet.... so im guessing ati radoen are better then nvidias, i guess im stuck with thsi one untill then..but maybe buy that vga cooling thing
creator: _SSnipe_
date: 2010-09-16T18:06:43-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: It depends. Both companies make great cards, you just need to choose one that's good for what you're willing to pay. ATI's 4870 1GB probably remains the best all-around deal seeing as you can get a new one for 104 bucks after rebate.
creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2010-09-16T19:30:18-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: I'd either get a used 4800 series or get a newer one I mentioned before. Personally the 5770 or 5850 would be a good buy. With the pricing scheme as it is now, I would get a GTX 460 for much more performance/dollar ratio than most cards out there.
creator: Homey
date: 2010-09-16T23:27:37-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: Homey wrote on Thu, 16 September 2010 16:27 I'd either get a used 4800 series or get a newer one I mentioned before. Personally the 5770 or 5850 would be a good buy. With the pricing scheme as it is now, I would get a GTX 460 for much more performance/dollar ratio than most cards out there. how come the pricy cards only have one dvi moniter connection?
creator: _SSnipe_
date: 2010-09-17T05:40:20-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: DVI is the exact same as HDMI, except it doesn't carry Audio. Most monitors now ship with DVI/VGA/HDMI now, and since so many people hook up their computers to HDTV's, having HDMI with pass through audio is a huge plus. If you want to game on your big screen and you have a built in HDMI port to your video card it's a simple hook up. A lot of the lower end cards like the 4670/5670/5650 have HDMI to as they are great HTPC cards. It's good to have HDMI instead of VGA in my opinion.
creator: Homey
date: 2010-09-17T22:05:46-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: Homey wrote on Fri, 17 September 2010 15:05 DVI is the exact same as HDMI, except it doesn't carry Audio. Most monitors now ship with DVI/VGA/HDMI now, and since so many people hook up their computers to HDTV's, having HDMI with pass through audio is a huge plus. If you want to game on your big screen and you have a built in HDMI port to your video card it's a simple hook up. A lot of the lower end cards like the 4670/5670/5650 have HDMI to as they are great HTPC cards. It's good to have HDMI instead of VGA in my opinion. So in other words you still can have two moniters running on one card? since just spent 300 on to 21 inch wide screen flat moniters with vga AND dvi connections and my vid card has two dvi, and i like it the way it is lol
creator: _SSnipe_
date: 2010-09-18T17:16:25-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: (SSnipe) -BLU3Y3Z- wrote on Sat, 18 September 2010 13:16 Homey wrote on Fri, 17 September 2010 15:05 DVI is the exact same as HDMI, except it doesn't carry Audio. Most monitors now ship with DVI/VGA/HDMI now, and since so many people hook up their computers to HDTV's, having HDMI with pass through audio is a huge plus. If you want to game on your big screen and you have a built in HDMI port to your video card it's a simple hook up. A lot of the lower end cards like the 4670/5670/5650 have HDMI to as they are great HTPC cards. It's good to have HDMI instead of VGA in my opinion. So in other words you still can have two moniters running on one card? since just spent 300 on to 21 inch wide screen flat moniters with vga AND dvi connections and my vid card has two dvi, and i like it the way it is lol I have 3 monitors running on one card, but the third monitor has to be run via displayport. My card has 1X HDMI, 2X DVI, 1X Display Port. There are lots of cables that are HDMI-DVI, so really it doesn't matter which end is what as long as you have one of those cables, which are very cheap. P.S. I hope you have the world's best 21" monitor for $300. Nice ones run for about $140 here.
creator: Homey
date: 2010-09-18T18:53:36-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: Homey wrote on Sat, 18 September 2010 11:53 (SSnipe) -BLU3Y3Z- wrote on Sat, 18 September 2010 13:16 Homey wrote on Fri, 17 September 2010 15:05 DVI is the exact same as HDMI, except it doesn't carry Audio. Most monitors now ship with DVI/VGA/HDMI now, and since so many people hook up their computers to HDTV's, having HDMI with pass through audio is a huge plus. If you want to game on your big screen and you have a built in HDMI port to your video card it's a simple hook up. A lot of the lower end cards like the 4670/5670/5650 have HDMI to as they are great HTPC cards. It's good to have HDMI instead of VGA in my opinion. So in other words you still can have two moniters running on one card? since just spent 300 on to 21 inch wide screen flat moniters with vga AND dvi connections and my vid card has two dvi, and i like it the way it is lol I have 3 monitors running on one card, but the third monitor has to be run via displayport. My card has 1X HDMI, 2X DVI, 1X Display Port. There are lots of cables that are HDMI-DVI, so really it doesn't matter which end is what as long as you have one of those cables, which are very cheap. P.S. I hope you have the world's best 21" monitor for $300. Nice ones run for about $140 here. no I got two, what happen was I saw an Acer monitor on sale for 109 bucks, form staples (I was trying to find something not to much money but also supports dvi, so I bought two of them, which came out to be like 300, both are 109 x 2 + tax + recycle tax? (ya idk either) = 309
creator: _SSnipe_
date: 2010-09-18T20:07:40-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: Ah ok that makes sense. Well either way, if you choose a video card with 1X DVI, 1X HDMI, 1X DP, you can do HDMI>DVI for one monitor
creator: Homey
date: 2010-09-18T21:14:12-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: Homey wrote on Sat, 18 September 2010 14:14 Ah ok that makes sense. Well either way, if you choose a video card with 1X DVI, 1X HDMI, 1X DP, you can do HDMI>DVI for one monitor Ya but so far the ATI cards that aren't to big, cost alot.
creator: _SSnipe_
date: 2010-09-19T08:39:27-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: Have you checked your local Craigslist for used video cards? 'Good' new cards are out of your price range, so you'll have to either check the classifieds, or try eBay.
creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2010-09-20T01:09:55-00:00

Re: ATI
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creator: _SSnipe_
date: 2010-09-21T06:35:05-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: nikki6ixx wrote on Sun, 19 September 2010 18:09 Have you checked your local Craigslist for used video cards? 'Good' new cards are out of your price range, so you'll have to either check the classifieds, or try eBay. id think they would die faster..
creator: _SSnipe_
date: 2010-09-21T06:35:55-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: Yeah, it's a risk, but a pretty small one. You just need to be smart about what you're buying and who you're buying from. In your case, I'd try to find a used 4870/4890 1GB from XFX. That way, the seller can transfer their warranty to you. However, you do have some other options: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127495R http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127445R The second one has 1GB of memory, and is moderately overclocked. Here's a 5770: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814141116R Just remember that these don't have a normal warranty because they're Open Box.
creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2010-09-21T19:38:15-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: Which, if any of these are more better graphics for gaming then the BFG Announces NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT OC 512MB I have?
creator: _SSnipe_
date: 2010-09-23T06:13:15-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: All of them, although the open box 5770 has since been sold. This one is cheap: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127495R ...but only has 512MB of memory so that can be a pain if you want to use AA and AF at higher resolutions. Still, it'd be an improvement over a 9600GT. However, here's a good deal: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131365&cm_re=4850-_ -14-131-365-_-Product 80 dollars after rebate, and it's an ATI. This card is new, and has full warranty. Plus, you can Crossfire it with another 4850 if you want. Unless you can find a 4850 or 4870 on Craigslist for cheaper, I don't think you can do any better.
creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2010-09-23T20:08:57-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: Its hard deciding, one very good expensive nvidia card, or one good one at moderate price, or two *crossfire* two good cards which my motherboard only supports and i also read ati supports 4 moniter *not saying I would ever us it8 but good thing to know..
creator: _SSnipe_
date: 2010-09-26T17:57:43-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: How much do you want to spend?
creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2010-09-29T06:17:32-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: (SSnipe) -BLU3Y3Z- wrote on Sun, 26 September 2010 13:57 Its hard deciding, one very good expensive nvidia card, or one good one at moderate price, or two *crossfire* two good cards which my motherboard only supports and i also read ati supports 4 moniter *not saying I would ever us it8 but good thing to know.. Actually ATI 5000 cards support 3 monitors per card (Third monitor MUST be run via displayport), some cards even support 6 monitors. My suggestion for the ATI route is wait 6 weeks as some 6000 mid range cards are due out in October. Should be some price drops on the 4000 and 5000 series as well as new products.
creator: Homey
date: 2010-10-01T01:09:51-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: Here's a good deal if you want an ATI card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150497&cm_sp=DailyD eal-_-14-150-497-_-Product A 5830 for 159.99 after rebate is really good value! It's not the fastest card, but it'll probably serve your needs for now. And it should probably drop considerably more in the next few months so you can run two if your power supply can handle them. If you don't manage to get it, then at least check newegg's Daily Deals because they often have really good discounts. Also, use http://www.google.com/products to help search for the best prices on cards.
creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2010-10-01T04:03:00-00:00

Re: ATI
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creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2010-10-01T04:04:01-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: Good price on that card, already sold out. Should be a lot more prices like that in the near future.
creator: Homey
date: 2010-10-01T20:42:04-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: Homey wrote on Fri, 01 October 2010 13:42 Good price on that card, already sold out. Should be a lot more prices like that in the near future. just a little longer until i cold get it
creator: _SSnipe_
date: 2010-10-22T07:22:28-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: ATI has released the 68xx series, and while they're great, nVidia has also cut the prices on its GTX 460 and 470. I have my GTX 470 running close to a 480. While the 470 will MSRP at $260, chances are you'll find nicely rebated versions come Black Friday.
creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2010-10-22T19:16:16-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: nikki6ixx wrote on Fri, 22 October 2010 12:16 ATI has released the 68xx series, and while they're great, nVidia has also cut the prices on its GTX 460 and 470. I have my GTX 470 running close to a 480. While the 470 will MSRP at $260, chances are you'll find nicely rebated versions come Black Friday. do they have black fridays on websites like newegg?
creator: _SSnipe_
date: 2010-11-11T19:37:22-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: Absolutely. In fact, they're doing a couple weeks of sales leading up the big day. Zotac is doing a beg rebate/sales gig on their nVidia cards. You can get a GTX 460 from them for 129.99 after a rebate!
creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2010-11-13T08:19:04-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: nikki6ixx wrote on Sat, 13 November 2010 00:19 Absolutely. In fact, they're doing a couple weeks of sales leading up the big day. Zotac is doing a beg rebate/sales gig on their nVidia cards. You can get a GTX 460 from them for 129.99 after a rebate! damn, now its a choice of staying up online or going to a real store!!!
creator: _SSnipe_
date: 2010-11-13T17:43:50-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: (SSnipe) -BLU3Y3Z- wrote on Sat, 13 November 2010 11:43 nikki6ixx wrote on Sat, 13 November 2010 00:19 Absolutely. In fact, they're doing a couple weeks of sales leading up the big day. Zotac is doing a beg rebate/sales gig on their nVidia cards. You can get a GTX 460 from them for 129.99 after a rebate! damn, now its a choice of staying up online or going to a real store!!! You CAN get that 460 right now. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500173&cm_re=zotac_ 460-_-14-500-173-_-Product It's a weekend special though, so you might have to act quick. However, it has 'only' 768MB which means that if you game over 1680x1050, you might want to get a card with 1GB. Asus also has a GTX 460 on sale too for the same price after rebate. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121390 If you do decide to wait, then good luck! Chances are, you should be able to find a GTX 460 or even 470 for a great price on Black Friday, or an ATI 5850.
creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2010-11-14T04:27:45-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: nikki6ixx wrote on Sat, 13 November 2010 20:27 (SSnipe) -BLU3Y3Z- wrote on Sat, 13 November 2010 11:43 nikki6ixx wrote on Sat, 13 November 2010 00:19 Absolutely. In fact, they're doing a couple weeks of sales leading up the big day. Zotac is doing a beg rebate/sales gig on their nVidia cards. You can get a GTX 460 from them for 129.99 after a rebate! damn, now its a choice of staying up online or going to a real store!!! You CAN get that 460 right now. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500173&cm_re=zotac_ 460-_-14-500-173-_-Product It's a weekend special though, so you might have to act quick. However, it has 'only' 768MB which means that if you game over 1680x1050, you might want to get a card with 1GB. Asus also has a GTX 460 on sale too for the same price after rebate. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121390 If you do decide to wait, then good luck! Chances are, you should be able to find a GTX 460 or even 470 for a great price on Black Friday, or an ATI 5850. Well I am broke, on the 16th, I get 2000 from school grants that I can us to buy it, problem is im still not sure which video card to get thats high end from nvidia or ati which is why I hvae been looking up comparison charts, and the fact I have never shopped on black Friday before so im not sure how low the prices actually drop...
creator: _SSnipe_
date: 2010-11-14T06:29:58-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: Well, you don't want to spend too much. What you need to do is figure out what resolution you want to play at, what sort of settings you aim to use and decide accordingly.
creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2010-11-14T20:41:13-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: nikki6ixx wrote on Sun, 14 November 2010 12:41 Well, you don't want to spend too much. What you need to do is figure out what resolution you want to play at, what sort of settings you aim to use and decide accordingly. understandable, I still am going wait till closer to the day before I decide which vid cards im watch during the day, but how does it happen, do all prices change at a specif time or something?
creator: _SSnipe_
date: 2010-11-15T06:26:37-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: (SSnipe) -BLU3Y3Z- wrote on Mon, 15 November 2010 00:26 nikki6ixx wrote on Sun, 14 November 2010 12:41 Well, you don't want to spend too much. What you need to do is figure out what resolution you want to play at, what sort of settings you aim to use and decide accordingly. understandable, I still am going wait till closer to the day before I decide which vid cards im watch during the day, but how does it happen, do all prices change at a specif time or something? Probably at midnight, depending on the retailer. Often, they will send out emails previewing their sales, and the times. So if you don't already, sign up to get those emails from places like newegg.com and tigerdirect.com . They often provide a link to sign up, or you just register to be a customer. I do think you want to have a couple graphics cards picked out that you know you'll be happy with. That means if you see a really good deal, you'll buy something that you want, instead being upset later. Also, that means you won't have to research the card as much when you see the sale, meaning you'll likely get it, before others grab up the stock.
creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2010-11-15T20:53:40-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: Radeon 69xx series is supposed to launch soon as well, so that'll probably lower prices of current cards if you can hold out till then.
creator: a000clown
date: 2010-11-15T22:36:43-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: still not sure which card to think, for nvidi im thinking gtx 465 but for ati i have no idea..
creator: _SSnipe_
date: 2010-11-16T05:36:56-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: If possible, try to step up to an nVidia 470 over a 465. A 465 has the 470's heat and power consumption, but is really neutered in terms of processing. However, there are some really good prices on 465's on Newegg right now; whether they'll go lower for Black Friday, or not is the question. A GTX 460 1GB would be worth looking at too, although it seems the 465 is priced similarly to those. The 460 overclocks better, runs cooler and consumes less power. But that's only if you're willing to OC. A comparable AMD card would be the 6870, and one of those will beat out a GTX 465 handily, and even catch up to a 470.
creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2010-11-16T06:00:04-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: Personally I'd save myself the money and go with the cheaper card of comparable performance. I don't think 5 to 10 extra FPS is worth the $50-150 (depending on card choices).
creator: a000clown
date: 2010-11-16T06:20:49-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: a000clown wrote on Mon, 15 November 2010 22:20 Personally I'd save myself the money and go with the cheaper card of comparable performance. I don't think 5 to 10 extra FPS is worth the $50-150 (depending on card choices). well what do u recommend? =]
creator: _SSnipe_
date: 2010-11-16T07:26:11-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: (SSnipe) -BLU3Y3Z- wrote on Tue, 16 November 2010 02:26 a000clown wrote on Mon, 15 November 2010 22:20 Personally I'd save myself the money and go with the cheaper card of comparable performance. I don't think 5 to 10 extra FPS is worth the $50-150 (depending on card choices). well what do u recommend? =] I was just commenting on the GeForce 460 vs 465 vs 470 discussion, in which case I'd go for the 460 between the three of them. Then, comparing to the AMD/ATI side, the Radeon HD 6850 wins most benchmarks (vs GeForce 640 1GB) while also coming out cheaper. Keep in mind the benchmarks I'm referring to compare the reference cards and partner designs (from EVGA, ASUS, XFX, Saphire, MSI, Gigabyte, etc.) may have very different results. I can't decide for you. Just figure out the min FPS you want at the resolution you play at, then pick a card that gives you that. All I meant before was that you'll always be saying, "it's only an extra x dollars so why not?" as you bump up to the next card, and the next, and the next, until you hit the most expensive card and realize you just jumped a couple hundred bucks from where you started
creator: a000clown
date: 2010-11-16T17:37:35-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: a000clown wrote on Tue, 16 November 2010 09:37 (SSnipe) -BLU3Y3Z- wrote on Tue, 16 November 2010 02:26 a000clown wrote on Mon, 15 November 2010 22:20 Personally I'd save myself the money and go with the cheaper card of comparable performance. I don't think 5 to 10 extra FPS is worth the $50-150 (depending on card choices). well what do u recommend? =] I was just commenting on the GeForce 460 vs 465 vs 470 discussion, in which case I'd go for the 460 between the three of them. Reason?
creator: _SSnipe_
date: 2010-11-17T18:29:07-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: I am still having toruble picking out a card, the nvidia GTX seem to have high benchmarks while the ATI have more Stream Processors, and still confused on which to choose
creator: _SSnipe_
date: 2010-11-19T07:33:55-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: Unless you can give us a definitive price ceiling, and the resolution/eye-candy you want to play, we can't make a good suggestion. Right now, the GTX 460 seems the best way to go, given what you've said so far. The AMD 6850 offers comparable performance, but is more expensive than the nVidia card. But like I said, if you decide you want to play at 1920x1080 with an average of 4x AA, with a minimum 50FPS in every game, then you need to make that known.
creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2010-11-23T01:43:52-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: nikki6ixx wrote on Mon, 22 November 2010 17:43 Unless you can give us a definitive price ceiling, and the resolution/eye-candy you want to play, we can't make a good suggestion. Right now, the GTX 460 seems the best way to go, given what you've said so far. The AMD 6850 offers comparable performance, but is more expensive than the nVidia card. But like I said, if you decide you want to play at 1920x1080 with an average of 4x AA, with a minimum 50FPS in every game, then you need to make that known. well my monitors only support 1600 x 900 so that I guess? my price range is between 150-200 dollars, but since black Friday im hopping one thats over 200 dollars could be reduced to fit my budget which is why Im waiting, I want it to have a HDMI output and be very good graphics, I jsut dont know the difference spec wise between eh GTX and the ATI series like ATi have lot of Stream Processing Units while nvidia has way less and stuff lime that
creator: _SSnipe_
date: 2010-11-23T03:28:42-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: Don't worry about stream processing units and the like. What you care about are gaming benchmarks as those will indicate what performance you can expect. Within that price range, you might be able to get a GTX 470 or a Radeon 5850 for under 200 dollars on Black Friday. Otherwise, a GTX 460 will be perfectly good for that resolution, as is a 6850.
creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2010-11-23T04:57:13-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: nikki6ixx wrote on Mon, 22 November 2010 20:57 Don't worry about stream processing units and the like. What you care about are gaming benchmarks as those will indicate what performance you can expect. Within that price range, you might be able to get a GTX 470 or a Radeon 5850 for under 200 dollars on Black Friday. Otherwise, a GTX 460 will be perfectly good for that resolution, as is a 6850. Do you guys happen to know whats normal price discount on that day?
creator: _SSnipe_
date: 2010-11-23T05:49:21-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: Not really, there's no 'normal' discount on products. That's why you want a couple different choice of cards that you'd be happy to pick, like the 460/470 and the 6850/5850.
creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2010-11-23T05:59:57-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: nikki6ixx wrote on Mon, 22 November 2010 21:59 Not really, there's no 'normal' discount on products. That's why you want a couple different choice of cards that you'd be happy to pick, like the 460/470 and the 6850/5850. Right now I got my eye on a few of these form EVGA http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%205000 1402%20600007323&IsNodeId=1&name=GeForce%20GTX%20400%20series
creator: _SSnipe_
date: 2010-11-23T06:16:06-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: Make sure you know what options are out there for all the brands. There may not be any Black Friday sales on EVGA products so you may have to buy from brands like Asus, XFX, Gigabyte or MSI instead.
creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2010-11-23T06:22:38-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: nikki6ixx wrote on Mon, 22 November 2010 22:22 Make sure you know what options are out there for all the brands. There may not be any Black Friday sales on EVGA products so you may have to buy from brands like Asus, XFX, Gigabyte or MSI instead. Thanks for the piece of advice, im making a list of links off newegg and tiger from diff brands!
creator: _SSnipe_
date: 2010-11-23T07:28:07-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: So... what'd you get?
creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2010-11-28T00:03:34-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: well they did have not a hgue selection all this week and the only other was a huge price range *around 300-400* so I got this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133326
creator: _SSnipe_
date: 2010-11-28T07:39:07-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: You made the right decision, young patriot. Supporting nVidia is the American thing to do. ATi is a Canadian company and therefore, steals jobs from hardworking American families, meaning their babies starve to death, and they themselves cannot afford a GTX 580 to play Crysis with.
creator: John McCain
date: 2010-11-29T06:05:12-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: Nice pick! Just make sure you register the card for the three year warranty. I'm aiming to SLI hack my AMD machine with a pair of 470's in the near future, so I'll let you know how it turns out, in case you decide you want a pair of 460's in SLI later!
creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2010-11-30T01:10:25-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: Think you, I was thinking of an ALI hack but never knew how to even start to learn how to do it or how its done.
creator: _SSnipe_
date: 2010-11-30T07:08:48-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: I've had the SLI hack running for a week now, without any problem whatsoever. PhysX works, as does nVidia Surround. It's amazing. The downside is that you cannot use the newest drivers. However, they're probably as mature as they're going to be for the 4XX-Series anyways. However, you'll want to be comfortable with altering your system slightly. It's simple to install, and uninstall, but you should back up your files, just in case.
creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2011-01-16T04:16:33-00:00

Re: ATI
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description: nikki6ixx wrote on Sat, 15 January 2011 20:16 I've had the SLI hack running for a week now, without any problem whatsoever. PhysX works, as does nVidia Surround. It's amazing. The downside is that you cannot use the newest drivers. However, they're probably as mature as they're going to be for the 4XX-Series anyways. However, you'll want to be comfortable with altering your system slightly. It's simple to install, and uninstall, but you should back up your files, just in case. Cool, Ill ask you how you did it once I ever get the money for a second card lol
creator: _SSnipe_
date: 2011-01-16T07:10:04-00:00