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Just to let you all know; I was an admin at Atomix-Gaming up until today. It split up, most of the moderators/players were banned. The reason the community split is simple: Xpert likes to read personal forum PMs(Mine, dippy, Rengirl, Armani, and others), steal passwords from the forums, hack their facebook accounts(ask Anthrax, I'm the one who had to calm him down that night). In general giving Atomix a shit name in the Renegade Community by banning loads of people for purely personal reasons. If anyone ever wants a good read, hit me up on MSN...logs logs logs. Xpert since you are reading this, please deny it here...so I can just spew logs. shaitan1977@hotmail.com So most of us will now be at Allied-Gaming. www.allied-gaming.com Yeah it's kind of nasty and dirty(plus pointless of me posting here) but whatever...he's a tool and you all should know some of the things he's done.
I'm sure this will tarnish Atomix's previously sterling image with the community.
worst owner ever tbh. I don't know what ungy was think when he gave the community to him.
Notice how he wont refute anything. He is guilty as hell. The reason I don't want to post stuff here is so it doesn't get out of hand. So just PM me or whatever.
Is allied getting wordfiltered?
He is lucky legal action wasn't taken when he hacked anthrax's email and facebook.
I'm not gonna bother wasting my time on Renegade Forums. 15+ mods removed 20+ people banned What happens? Rebellion. Renegade is so much better than the Lifetime Channel.
Can't have a community without a community.
I'd like to have a good read but would prefer not having to send you an e-mail.
Xpert wrote on Mon, 05 April 2010 20:39 Renegade is so much better than the Lifetime Channel. does it beat pointless highschool drama as well? cause so far.. it does imo
finally some rene drama
Zeratul wrote on Mon, 05 April 2010 21:42 Xpert wrote on Mon, 05 April 2010 20:39 Renegade is so much better than the Lifetime Channel. does it beat pointless highschool drama as well? cause so far.. it does imo There is no such thing as highschool drama now sit back and enjoy a shitstorm of drama like the rest of us.
DRNG wrote on Mon, 05 April 2010 20:46 sit back and enjoy a shitstorm of drama like the rest of us. so i shall
What will this mean for the Atomix server, and their many fans?
What does that tell people? The problem is one person. It means it's as good as dead, and will just get worse once I take the rest of the playerbase. :/ Xpert can have his empty ass server, I have what I need.
lolololololololol +1 spam
This sounds familiar though... WTF assholes at least come up with some original drama...
HOLY FUCKING SHIT rengirl still plays? I thought she dropped off the face of the internet or something
So... For those of us who missed all the action and don't know what's going on, anyone feel like enlightening on this unfortunate revelation?
PM me and I'll add ya or whatever to MSN. I'll prolly just grab a shitload of you in one convo tomorrow and be done with it. Wants to be a twat by Z-lining all of us, it's going to just get bloody. I suggest you all change your passwords if you use Atomix forums or their IRC. That's how he got Anthrax. Yahoo: wattersjoel MSN: shaitan1977@hotmail.com
good luck to Allied-Gaming it's not at all easy to start a new community in Renegade
It may be, but whatever...if you have enough of the same people things will work out in the end. Which we have. Going to be weird starting over, but the guys have pulled together pretty good so far. The crowning thing imo is we have the original Atomix server maker. It's a little different with the new stuff, but cool. Once we get Olaf to help us with the hostname issue, then Xpert wont be able to reset it anymore on us.
Xpert wrote on Mon, 05 April 2010 21:39 I'm not gonna bother wasting my time on Renegade Forums. 15+ mods removed 20+ people banned What happens? Rebellion. Renegade is so much better than the Lifetime Channel. Faggot, seriously.
Allied Gaming currently has a snipe and an aow server. It so far is very popular. Xpert has been going to the trouble to crash the servers. Xpert and his lovely job at mcdonalds are obviously the backbone of renegade. Especially with his special nazi style leadership. I urge everyone to change their passwords if they were ever registered on atomix forums or irc because xpert will stop at nothing. Probably because at McDonalds you learn to never give up, Put a smile on, and of course I'm loving it and my egirlfriend!!
I use different passwords for my shit anyways, nothing for me to worry about Either way I doubt I'd be a target, I'm not that interesting a person haha Sad when things like this happen but I don't take sides since I'll still get along well with players from both communities, regardless of which servers I choose to play in. I just hope the administration of either community doesn't have hard feelings towards players who choose to play on competing servers... That would be wrong, and I'll probably be playing on both servers since the community is split now. PS: There's nothing wrong with working at McDonalds, everyone has to earn a living their own way.
Ain't nothin to it, gangster rap made me do it
Well I never thought to find e-drama over renegade. But hey you wont see me complaining either way.
Well since I cannot post cause I am like ultra banned for threatening to post here after Xpert deleted and banned everyone: Twiztid the racism is uncalled for on Atomix forums, you know how I feel. You're mad, sure but it is unacceptable. People need to hop off Rengirls butt, she isn't the cause of all this...Xpert is. Dippy(admin at Ax), you had a chance to fix things, you sat on your ass and ignored it. You say this was all to bring Ax to it's knees? We ARE Ax you blind twit. I had been swinging either way for weeks. I played my part of getting my friends to know what Xpert was, and helping to found a new place. Yet for all that my mind wasn't made up, you two made it up. You and Xpert forced my hand, simple enough by ignoring everything. That's what you do best, that's what you did in the admin section when I gave you guys a chance to reply. Dippy the only time you will ever act, is if you are personally affronted, just like in November. An excerpt of Part 2 I never got the chance to post because Part 1 fell on deaf ears. This was weeks ago, went unanswered by Xpert, dippy answered with the usual "deal with it" crap. Toggle the spoiler: Toggle Spoiler Part 1: You want to know something during that announcement topic? If you guys had paid attention to my "flip flopping" I actually had alot of rage there(I still do) and was sifting everything in with my posts. Which was why I stopped what I was doing in there, even though I didn't know the "why" of it at the time. Go back and read them starting with my first post. Once you do see it all(and where I was heading), post here to let me know what you seen. I'll give you three a day or so to reply(since I know you all have lives and might not check this all the time), then I'll finish. -J Part 2: The thing of it was I was self-destructing, was going to let it all out and watch my place here burn without caring. Which was why I kept asking people to not post and stay off my side. Had to actually yell at Twiz on TS because of what he was going to do there, then he pops out with that neat post. Had me laughing tbh. The two ironic parts of me expressing my displeasure at what the new mod's part was doing to us: You jumped Rengirl in private for her stating her opinions as well. Do you not find that to be...odd? Me taking the asshole stance over the thing, and the real issue not even being your guys' work. Server related: I'm going to make this as plain as I can; my problem is you. Watching all the stupid stuff you do to people around here that has nothing to do with the "greater good", that I had been holding in. PM reading/stealing passwords then using those to take peoples accounts/banning God and everyone because they pissed you off personally/giving this place a crappy name in the eyes of other communities...the list goes on and on does it not? It's not like we haven't gone over this before, but you just do not learn. If so many of our mods are so willing to jump at Trojans offer of a new server, community, figurehead...then there's a problem(it surprised me at the ones who wanted it, and myself and Rengirl at being so vehement against it). Personal: Then during that topic I found out you gave Stew box access after breaking your word with me, it made me tick. I didn't even know why I was so mad until 5:00am the other day. I didn't realize what I was doing/where I was heading in that topic, or the "why". Don't bother downplaying it like you did the last time, you and I were both in those original conversations. A mans word is his word. Without it we are nothing. Had you of said this in regards to anything really, I would've held you to it. I've hit my wall with you. I don't even know if I want to bother fixing things between us, on a personal level. You've backstabbed me too much if you recall. Summary: You tell me, what should we do? There's a few possible outcomes here: 1. I shut up and deal with it, until whatever happens...which would be #2 or #3 here. 2. I get banned like all the others, and then #3. 3. I walk away and let everything we've all worked for split apart and I start anew. I'm not threatening you guys with this statement(even if I didn't try) it would still make a mess of things and rob what we(community) have as a whole. 4. It all gets fixed. I don't know how though, and I honestly doubt you would even bother trying. You can do what you may with this speech of mine; ignore it, belittle it, whatever. One of those will be happening. Am I being unfair to you? Very. Do I care what happens at this time? No. The ball is in your court. - Joel
a000clown wrote on Mon, 05 April 2010 23:41 I use different passwords for my shit anyways, nothing for me to worry about Either way I doubt I'd be a target, I'm not that interesting a person haha Sad when things like this happen but I don't take sides since I'll still get along well with players from both communities, regardless of which servers I choose to play in. I just hope the administration of either community doesn't have hard feelings towards players who choose to play on competing servers... That would be wrong, and I'll probably be playing on both servers since the community is split now. PS: There's nothing wrong with working at McDonalds, everyone has to earn a living their own way. you're far too level-headed to be posting here please leave!
It had been too long since we had some decent rene drama... like over a few weeks! It's always unfortunate when communities split, and usually gets messy. AFAIK the word allied will not be filtered on reneforums, to answer one of the questions above. I'm curious though: why start a new community and not join an existing one? To quote something that seems to apply to this: Quote: C&C: Renegade -- Dying since 2003!™ PS: keep us informed of future evolutions!
Xpert wrote on Mon, 05 April 2010 20:31 Bring on the drama.
Lol, this was totally the place to get the attention you wanted, wasn't it. Let's not pretend this topic was started for any other reason. Trojan wrote on Mon, 05 April 2010 23:35 I urge everyone to change their passwords if they were ever registered on atomix forums or irc because xpert will stop at nothing. Yes, because we have a personal vendetta against everyone in our community, and will not stop until we dominate the world through their facebooks! BE WARNED. Don't mistake our lack of involvement in this conversation as anything other than a complete lack of interest. Spread whichever stories you want, I'm sure these people have never seen it before, and totally care. People that belong to neither of our communities, that is. P.S. Calling me an Aussie cuts deep =( But you're right, my nationality certainly limits my brain function. Now, has anyone seen my kangaroo?
It does seem this belongs more in heated discussions and debates, though. So I moved it.
Once again, no rebuttal on any of what I said. <3 you too. Yes this was for attention, pure and simple attention. You guys did ban most of us if you recall. It is funny, you being what you are, and him being what he is. I wonder how long until you get screwed over royally? Don't come whining to me when it happens you backstabber. It doesn't matter, what we make will be bigger and more widespread than it was. It does have a shaky foundation, but it's doable.
hiya Dippy, i think i found your Roo. Lets ride across the desert, il be on my koala. Im an aussie to, so did we just get insulted? Renforums is going to turn into Cronulla in a minute! anyways, im interested in the developments, and wat each ssde has to say. I mush prefer more detailed posts like dippys and shaitans that actually explain things and gozy brings up a good point about starting another community, theres plenty of good ones out there, all competeing for the tiny player base remaining. Just seems like its not very helpful either way
dippy wrote on Tue, 06 April 2010 16:57 P.S. Calling me an Aussie cuts deep =( But you're right, my nationality certainly limits my brain function. Now, has anyone seen my kangaroo? WHO INSULTED AUSSIES ill ride my wombat
You guys can assault him with your boomerangs then drown him in your backwards-spinning toilets. That or feed him to your stingrays.
Dover wrote on Tue, 06 April 2010 02:46 You guys can assault him with your boomerangs then drown him in your backwards-spinning toilets. That or feed him to your stingrays. Then perhaps america could assist him with his diet whilst recovering from all this.
snpr1101 wrote on Tue, 06 April 2010 00:54 Dover wrote on Tue, 06 April 2010 02:46 You guys can assault him with your boomerangs then drown him in your backwards-spinning toilets. That or feed him to your stingrays. Then perhaps america could assist him with his diet while recovering from all this. We don't diet here in America. We just pray to Jesus to take the flub away, and put these things on while we watch Oprah: Toggle Spoiler Edit: By the way, can one of you Aussies send me one of those awesome Steve Irwin hats? Thanks in advance.
Goztow wrote on Tue, 06 April 2010 02:26 I'm curious though: why start a new community and not join an existing one?
Dover wrote on Tue, 06 April 2010 02:58 snpr1101 wrote on Tue, 06 April 2010 00:54 Dover wrote on Tue, 06 April 2010 02:46 You guys can assault him with your boomerangs then drown him in your backwards-spinning toilets. That or feed him to your stingrays. Then perhaps america could assist him with his diet while recovering from all this. We don't diet here in America. We just pray to Jesus to take the flub away, and put these things on while we watch Oprah: Toggle Spoiler Edit: By the way, can one of you Aussies send me one of those awesome Steve Irwin hats? Thanks in advance. like one of these O_o
Why force everyone to split up into different communities when we can simply start a new one and cater to everyones needs. Not to mention that everything everyone has inputted into the community in the past would be gone to waste.
Oh oh oh renedrama with Atomix... im so there, Shaitain log me up man.
Trojan wrote on Tue, 06 April 2010 03:14 Why force everyone to split up into different communities when we can simply start a new one and cater to everyones needs. Not to mention that everything everyone has inputted into the community in the past would be gone to waste. from what I can see, it's more like the community just renamed itself and moved its forums and got rid of a tumor or two along the way
snpr1101 wrote on Tue, 06 April 2010 01:06 Dover wrote on Tue, 06 April 2010 02:58 snpr1101 wrote on Tue, 06 April 2010 00:54 Dover wrote on Tue, 06 April 2010 02:46 You guys can assault him with your boomerangs then drown him in your backwards-spinning toilets. That or feed him to your stingrays. Then perhaps america could assist him with his diet while recovering from all this. We don't diet here in America. We just pray to Jesus to take the flub away, and put these things on while we watch Oprah: Toggle Spoiler Edit: By the way, can one of you Aussies send me one of those awesome Steve Irwin hats? Thanks in advance. like one of these O_o Yeah! Those! Send it on priority emu plz.
Dover wrote on Tue, 06 April 2010 04:17 snpr1101 wrote on Tue, 06 April 2010 01:06 Dover wrote on Tue, 06 April 2010 02:58 snpr1101 wrote on Tue, 06 April 2010 00:54 Dover wrote on Tue, 06 April 2010 02:46 You guys can assault him with your boomerangs then drown him in your backwards-spinning toilets. That or feed him to your stingrays. Then perhaps america could assist him with his diet while recovering from all this. We don't diet here in America. We just pray to Jesus to take the flub away, and put these things on while we watch Oprah: Toggle Spoiler Edit: By the way, can one of you Aussies send me one of those awesome Steve Irwin hats? Thanks in advance. like one of these O_o Yeah! Those! Send it on priority emu plz. kk, send me a 260GTX GFX card. PC shop wants to charge me $350 for one, so I said get fucked.
reborn wrote on Tue, 06 April 2010 02:06 Goztow wrote on Tue, 06 April 2010 02:26 I'm curious though: why start a new community and not join an existing one? Well we'll see on that. I did this because I took the first offer, they had what I needed for the players. The other admins wanted to do it this way with server stuff, I didn't need all that. They know it. Don't think of it as "breaking apart Atomix," think of it as moving the players and mixing them with clanwars.cc/sniper people. It's actually bigger than the "Atomix" was, and it's only the beginning. Caveman wrote on Tue, 06 April 2010 02:16 Oh oh oh renedrama with Atomix... im so there, Shaitain log me up man. Look at my signature my man. You're more than welcome. It seems like all the "misfits" who've ever been a part of Ax, are banding together.
GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 06 April 2010 03:16 Trojan wrote on Tue, 06 April 2010 03:14 Why force everyone to split up into different communities when we can simply start a new one and cater to everyones needs. Not to mention that everything everyone has inputted into the community in the past would be gone to waste. from what I can see, it's more like the community just renamed itself and moved its forums and got rid of a tumor or two along the way Its more like herpes.. a tumor will kill you. Herpes haunts you for the rest of your life.
I've been banned from Atomix Ts and I have nothing to do with this. They might be mad about this, but tbh..you've probably done them a favour by putting the final nail into Atomix. It's a shame, although i didn't really like the server, it was popular..it won't be for much longer.
Caveman wrote on Tue, 06 April 2010 03:16 Oh oh oh renedrama with Atomix... im so there, Shaitain log me up man. CAVEMANNNNN!!!! I love you.
Trojan wrote on Tue, 06 April 2010 04:14 GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 06 April 2010 03:16 Trojan wrote on Tue, 06 April 2010 03:14 Why force everyone to split up into different communities when we can simply start a new one and cater to everyones needs. Not to mention that everything everyone has inputted into the community in the past would be gone to waste. from what I can see, it's more like the community just renamed itself and moved its forums and got rid of a tumor or two along the way Its more like herpes.. a tumor will kill you. Herpes haunts you for the rest of your life. yeah
JUST TAKE THE FORUM YOU YOU DOUBLE WANKER
y not jus rename yourselves to exodus mk2 LOL Both Ax and allied are good places, gl to both of yas (staying out of this renedrama fo sho)
COME PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2! ok i realize my commments are pointless
Like most forum trolls, I'd have to agree.
Rage and post at the place the owner hates most. How original. You won't post the proof, and are asking for people to email you, because you know damn well that you edited it all. Seriously, stop looking for attention, when you yourself really have no idea what is going on. I am friends with several of the people demodded, and i also can't stand many of them, but overall i see this as a step up. Most of the ones demodded only talk shit about people behind their backs, looking for attention, and when you were caught...you were punished...then couldn't take it and have to post here, giving half-ass lies? Lets all grow up. Get over it Shai, you had it coming.
OMG HE MIGHT HACK MY RENEGADE EMAIL!1
HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 12:46 i see this as a step up.
Hate, First off your a fucking retard. Do you understand why Xpert doesn't likes theses forums because everyone in ren hates his fucking guts. He is a pathetic, poor, mcdonalds employed, piece of shit that hacks peoples facebook and emails because the said person posted a picture of xpert on the forums. Does THAT constitute hacking a password off IRC to make himself feel a bit better about his feeble self. Please don't come on here and defend Xpert when you have no idea what has happened. You know his side of the story. You don't understand nor can you comprehend the situation and what has lead up to it. I urge shaitan to post the logs on here just so your theory can go up in smoke like the rest of the bullshit that comes out of your mouth. Enjoy your community of 5 people and we will see how long they stay once Xperts new "Mod" (LOL) is implemented. Thank you. Go fuck yourself.
HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 18:46 I am friends with several of the people demodded, and i also can't stand many of them, but overall i see this as a step up. Most of the ones demodded only talk shit about people behind their backs You obviously don't know them, and aren't "friends" with them either. You clearly know nothing..
Best not to get more people involved in this drama.
umad Trojan? I know both sides of the story, believe it or not, and i don't even talk to xpert, so go assume shit elsewhere. It's also Stewie's new mod, and it is a great mod, which had a lot of time and work put into it. You clearly are still pissed that Xpert denied you - in your attempt to buy Atomix - and was then banned from the community all together. You are taking this personally obviously, which i really don't think is necessary....Xpert is doing what is best for Atomix, as he views it, and i'd have to say that for the most part, i agree with him. Quote: He is a pathetic, poor, mcdonalds employed Oh, that's a reason to hate someone. Seriously, stfu. Quote: piece of shit that hacks peoples facebook and emails because the said person posted a picture of xpert on the forums. You clearly don't know Anthrax very well, and have only heard his side of the story. Be a hypocrite more please? Quote: Enjoy your community of 5 people Atomix was just as alive today as it was yesterday. Most of the mods that were demodded rarely even played anymore. If they want to leave a community just because they were demodded, then i'd rather not have them there in the first place. I've never had a problem with you before volcom, and you have never had a problem with me, so i see no reason to go and get all pissed at me because i like Atomix, and support Xpert. How about you calm the fuck down before embarrassing yourself further? Thanks.
HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 16:21 umad Trojan? I know both sides of the story, believe it or not, and i don't even talk to xpert, so go assume shit elsewhere. It's also Stewie's new mod, and it is a great mod, which had a lot of time and work put into it. You clearly are still pissed that Xpert denied you - in your attempt to buy Atomix - and was then banned from the community all together. You are taking this personally obviously, which i really don't think is necessary....Xpert is doing what is best for Atomix, as he views it, and i'd have to say that for the most part, i agree with him. Except I owned the box it was on when Ungy and I started it and took over baddog gaming. I wanted it back after multiply complaints of xperts nazi style leadership. And yea its an awesome mod copying half the features from TT and then completely failing when it lauched. HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 16:21 Oh, that's a reason to hate someone. Seriously, stfu. A persons life shapes there personality and adding all that together makes a big batch of fail. HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 16:21 You clearly don't know Anthrax very well, and have only heard his side of the story. Be a hypocrite more please? LOL you think because anthrax is a dick it justifies breaking federal internet laws? I can't believe you honestly think any one deserves there shit to be hacked for next to no reason at all. HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 16:21 Atomix was just as alive today as it was yesterday. Most of the mods that were demodded rarely even played anymore. If they want to leave a community just because they were demodded, then i'd rather not have them there in the first place. Most of the people demodded held the community together in commwars and in game. And its funny that it is alive because of Campas mod. Campa who xpert forced out of the community. HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 16:21 I've never had a problem with you before volcom, and you have never had a problem with me, so i see no reason to go and get all pissed at me because i like Atomix, and support Xpert. How about you calm the fuck down before embarrassing yourself further? Thanks. Nor have I with you, but when you attempt to slander my community don't expect a cookie and a pat on the back. And sure I can see how you can support the guy who is hated renegade-wide because he gave u VIP in his cool server. I'm Loving it.
Hate I wont be giving out those chat logs unless Xpert resets the hostnick passes. It is kind of petty, and I would have posted that shit that night, but fuck it's too much to sort through. There's too much personal stuff of his life and mine to show you in those logs. He knows some logs I would use, dippy knows some logs I would use. They wont bother to deny jack. If they have the balls to deny it on a public forum, then the gloves are off. I wont care what logs get used. As for editing logs. You don't know me very well. I have never edited one log to anybody. I don't need to, truth is oh so much more damning than lies ever could be. I just want to get the new place up and running. I don't have the time for your guys' continual crap. Since you and Vultima seem to think every single thing was planned well in advance...I wonder why it's taking me so long now? It would have been done weeks ago if that was true.
shaitan wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 15:05 Hate I wont be giving out those chat logs unless Xpert resets the hostnick passes. It is kind of petty, and I would have posted that shit that night, but fuck it's too much to sort through. There's too much personal stuff of his life and mine to show you in those logs. He knows some logs I would use, dippy knows some logs I would use. They wont bother to deny jack. As for editing logs. You don't know me very well. I have never edited one log to anybody. I don't need to, truth is oh so much more damning than lies ever could be. I just want to get the new place up and running. I don't have the time for your guys' continual crap. Since you and Vultima seem to think every single thing was planned well in advance...I wonder why it's taking me so long now? It would have been done weeks ago if that was true. Give the logs! Damn the consequences! Do it or you're a pussy! etc etc
Dual post ftw! I keep hearing this crap about boycotting the Atomix server. Who is the tard who started throwing that around? There never was a conspiracy to boycott a thing. O_o You know this would be so much more easier to just be able to post on atomix or not have to use a proxy to talk in their irc. God there's so much shit to debunk, might do it here when I get a chance.
Dover wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 17:06 shaitan wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 15:05 Hate I wont be giving out those chat logs unless Xpert resets the hostnick passes. It is kind of petty, and I would have posted that shit that night, but fuck it's too much to sort through. There's too much personal stuff of his life and mine to show you in those logs. He knows some logs I would use, dippy knows some logs I would use. They wont bother to deny jack. As for editing logs. You don't know me very well. I have never edited one log to anybody. I don't need to, truth is oh so much more damning than lies ever could be. I just want to get the new place up and running. I don't have the time for your guys' continual crap. Since you and Vultima seem to think every single thing was planned well in advance...I wonder why it's taking me so long now? It would have been done weeks ago if that was true. Give the logs! Damn the consequences! Do it or you're a pussy! etc etc
Quote: Except I owned the box it was on when Ungy and I started it and took over baddog gaming. I wanted it back after multiply complaints of xperts nazi style leadership. And yea its an awesome mod copying half the features from TT and then completely failing when it lauched. Fail? It was being tested, and some memory leaks were occurring that had to be found, and still are. It didn't fail, it is still in progress.... It didn't copy anything from TT, if anything, it copied the old fnfall server, with much similar crates and gameplay...mixed with the old atomix mod as well. Quote: A persons life shapes there personality and adding all that together makes a big batch of fail. Just because someone is poor doesn't mean they're a bad person. If you honestly believe that, then i don't even know why i'm bothering to argue with you, because you are clearly lost. Quote: LOL you think because anthrax is a dick it justifies breaking federal internet laws? No. I didn't say he should of broke any laws. I just said that Anthrax deserved it (assuming it's even true), which he completely did. Though I would of gone at it differently. Quote: I can't believe you honestly think any one deserves there shit to be hacked for next to no reason at all. Why ask a question, then assume an answer? It's not next to no reason at all neither....the guy lives to torment people, and he's pathetic at it as well. Quote: Most of the people demodded held the community together in commwars and in game. Some played in commwars, yes. It's a sacrifice for a better community....and it's not like there isn't anyone to take their places anyways. Quote: And its funny that it is alive because of Campas mod. Campa who xpert forced out of the community. You are bringing up past events that really have nothing to do with this one...that was a completely different story. Quote: Nor have I with you, but when you attempt to slander my community don't expect a cookie and a pat on the back. I'm yet to say a word about your community. Quote: And sure I can see how you can support the guy who is hated renegade-wide because he gave u VIP in his cool server. LOL. Like i care about VIP. As i have said before: I would rather not be a mod than be a mod. I like to play care-free more than i like to play for responsibilities. Quote: Since you and Vultima seem to think every single thing was planned well in advance...I wonder why it's taking me so long now? It would have been done weeks ago if that was true.Huh I have no idea what you are talking about...post logs to prove your point, not release personal information. Release them if you want, i could care less....It really seems like you are attempting to make an ass out of someone who isn't...all because of a demod.
Kid's version LOGS OR SPAM FEST I'd like some logs here please, else this is just drama you can take elsewhere.
Dover wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 15:06 Give the logs! Damn the consequences! Do it or you're a pussy! etc etc Quoting self to show I mean business!
HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 16:53 Fail? It was being tested, and some memory leaks were occurring that had to be found, and still are. It didn't fail, it is still in progress.... It didn't copy anything from TT, if anything, it copied the old fnfall server, with much similar crates and gameplay...mixed with the old atomix mod as well. Half the shit on there was to be fixed by TT. They went ahead and tried to do it themselves and it lagged like complete shit. HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 16:53 Just because someone is poor doesn't mean they're a bad person. If you honestly believe that, then i don't even know why i'm bothering to argue with you, because you are clearly lost. I never said anything about his income. He obviously has no life outside of renegade and mcdonalds hence his personality the way it is now. No social skills and rage at the world cuz fail. HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 16:53 No. I didn't say he should of broke any laws. I just said that Anthrax deserved it (assuming it's even true), which he completely did. Though I would of gone at it differently. No one deserves that no matter that they do. Online life is different then in real life. You don't cross a like cuz someone hurt your eboner. HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 16:53 Why ask a question, then assume an answer? It's not next to no reason at all neither....the guy lives to torment people, and he's pathetic at it as well. So stooping below his level is cool then? Cuz two wrongs make a right. HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 16:53 Some played in commwars, yes. It's a sacrifice for a better community....and it's not like there isn't anyone to take their places anyways. They were going to leave anyways. Xpert found out a day or so before and claimed he has knew forever and they were all "puppets". Pretty Cool. HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 16:53 You are bringing up past events that really have nothing to do with this one...that was a completely different story. The mod running on atomix right now is campas.. so seems relevant to me. HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 16:53 I'm yet to say a word about your community. Yet you call one of the admin a liar? HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 16:53 LOL. Like i care about VIP. As i have said before: I would rather not be a mod than be a mod. I like to play care-free more than i like to play for responsibilities. Then quitting defending a community that u dont hold any responsibilities towards so u can be care free.
Quote: Half the shit on there was to be fixed by TT. They went ahead and tried to do it themselves and it lagged like complete shit. They? It was Stewie.. The memory leaks weren't even coming from those fixes anyway...it was, and is a crate issue AFAIK. Either way, it was 1 person doing the job of many, and succeeding.. Quote: I never said anything about his income. Wrong. You said this: Quote: He is a pathetic, poor, mcdonalds employed, piece of shit I'd call that judgmental. Quote: No social skills and rage at the world cuz fail. So far i've only seen you prove this about yourself. Quote: No one deserves that no matter that they do. He *supposedly* hacked into his emails and facebook, and changed the password. He then gave them back like 1.5 days later, after Anthrax had a huge fit about it. Sure it was illegal, but it's not like he committed murder or anything (like you are making it seem). Quote: So stooping below his level is cool then? Like i said, i would have done it differently, but at the same time, it's nice to see him finally learn his lesson. Quote: They were going to leave anyways. If that was true, then we wouldn't be having this conversation. Quote: Xpert found out a day or so before and claimed he has knew forever and they were all "puppets". Pretty Cool. He did know what they were saying behind his back, because he read their pm's on the forums...after being suspicious. That is why many of them are mad, they feel they were invaded....which is a bunch of shit, because they were the ones sneaking around starting shit. Quote: The mod running on atomix right now is campas.. This conversation is not about the mod though. You are trying to make it about the mod, because you need something against Xpert...and cannot find anything better. Quote: Yet you call one of the admin a liar? Even if i did...i don't care. Calling one of your little admins a liar is not talking shit about your community, especially when the subject is about an entirely different topic, and community. Quote: Then quitting defending a community that u dont hold any responsibilities towards so u can be care free. Lol. I like to PLAY care free. We are not in game right now, and i will defend someone when i feel that they are being attacked wrongfully. That's just me. Deal with it.
Hate you're an idiot, I already explained to you what happened, you decided that you had no idea what was going on and that I didn't deserve it, and now you're going to uncover that hatchet again? You really do need attention huh. He hacked my e-mail and my facebook... made my status something about sucking penis etc which I don't really appreciate because I do have friends outside of the internet. But it's understandable that you'd know nothing about that. :/ He took my email and my facebook for about 3 days total. Which is quite a long time.
Anthrax is the biggest fucking asshole I have ever met online. However still doesn't deserve to have his e-mail and facebook hacked. Let's see those logs.
ITT: HaTe is retarded even if it's true that everyone that left is being pissy 13 year olds, they had their privacy fucked with (passwords, etc). which is wrong no matter how you twist it.
Anthrax just winds people up, its funny... He doesn't deserve that at all you moron...
stop using the word hack xpert isn't that smart. He just used a password he already had.
HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 18:10 He *supposedly* hacked into his emails and facebook, and changed the password. He then gave them back like 1.5 days later, after Anthrax had a huge fit about it. Sure it was illegal, but it's not like he committed murder or anything (like you are making it seem). HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 18:10 He did know what they were saying behind his back, because he read their pm's on the forums...after being suspicious. That is why many of them are mad, they feel they were invaded....which is a bunch of shit, because they were the ones sneaking around starting shit. Thanks for that statement. As I said once they have the balls to deny what I said on a public forum, or keep crashing our server, then I will post those logs. As for right now, this is Part 1(log portion) of what I told you all about with Anthrax's emails/facebook. You can scroll down on the ts3 log, to see the convos. Shinji = Xpert. I must say, TS3 blows at making logs. I admit that first night on TS I was finding it funnyish...until I started talking with Anth, and seeing it for what it really was. We also chatted on the Exodus TS3, when I was calming him down and giving him some info on what he could do legally. Sorry, I didn't record. In the zip there's the TS3 one, d|laptop=dippy, Trojan gave me his convo with Anthrax, my convo with Xpert the next day, and before I was banned I had all my PM's sent to my email, there's the screen shot of my hotmail. Part 2 of will be the invisible topics Anthrax made that I didn't want him in more trouble for. It was when he was rightfully raging. Anthrax you are fucking famous now, may I get an autograph? Now you can thank Dippy for me doing this much, by calling me a liar to others today(while I was out finding work). Call me a liar in public on the November PM reading incident please, then it's going to get nastier.
HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 19:10 They? It was Stewie.. The memory leaks weren't even coming from those fixes anyway...it was, and is a crate issue AFAIK. Either way, it was 1 person doing the job of many, and succeeding.. I'll wait til its actually up. HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 19:10 I'd call that judgmental. I am very judgmental and I am also very good at psychology and being poor does have a factor of who you are so let's try to know what we are talking about before posting. HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 19:10 So far i've only seen you prove this about yourself. Lol, Yea I have no social skills and I am SOOOOO angry. I gonna go flip cars like the hulk. Let's try to be more of a fucking retard. HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 19:10 He *supposedly* hacked into his emails and facebook, and changed the password. He then gave them back like 1.5 days later, after Anthrax had a huge fit about it. Sure it was illegal, but it's not like he committed murder or anything (like you are making it seem). He blatantly used the getpass command on irc for his own gain in a malicious form. Breaking more than one internet related law. HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 19:10 Like i said, i would have done it differently, but at the same time, it's nice to see him finally learn his lesson. He didn't learn shit. And tbh if he did that with me he would be dealing with a lawsuit. HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 19:10 If that was true, then we wouldn't be having this conversation. Considering I have had atomix players/mods coming up to me for weeks asking me when it would be up: I am pretty sure that voids the previous. HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 19:10 He did know what they were saying behind his back, because he read their pm's on the forums...after being suspicious. That is why many of them are mad, they feel they were invaded....which is a bunch of shit, because they were the ones sneaking around starting shit. So thats cools. Abusing his powers more by reading private messages. Also nothing was said in them. Everything was talked about on ts, irc, and msn. So nice fail. HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 19:10 This conversation is not about the mod though. You are trying to make it about the mod, because you need something against Xpert...and cannot find anything better. The list of the shit xpert has done and claimed to done is endless. HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 19:10 Even if i did...i don't care. Calling one of your little admins a liar is not talking shit about your community, especially when the subject is about an entirely different topic, and community. You had no grounds to call him a liar considering the log are there. [quote title=Quote:] HaTe wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 19:10 Lol. I like to PLAY care free. We are not in game right now, and i will defend someone when i feel that they are being attacked wrongfully. That's just me. Deal with it. Well then in this case you not needed because this attack is not wrongful. Lets not get so angry cuz your wrong hate.
I don't see any logs. Carrier get the padlocks. >:[
Dover wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 20:16 I don't see any logs. Carrier get the padlocks. >:[ Attachment: Anthraxs facebook incident.zip (Size: 188.19KB, Downloaded 12 time(s)) Look?
DRNG wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 19:44 Anthrax is the biggest fucking asshole I have ever met online. However still doesn't deserve to have his e-mail and facebook hacked. Let's see those logs. I don't think I've ever talked to you, but thanks.
shaitan wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 19:19 Dover wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 20:16 I don't see any logs. Carrier get the padlocks. >:[ Attachment: Anthraxs facebook incident.zip (Size: 188.19KB, Downloaded 12 time(s)) Look? What?! Reading that involves clicking and effort on my part! No deal! This shit isn't worth dealing with unless it's spoon fed to me.
don't make me repost your picture Dover do the right thing and CLICK that LINK
liquidv2 wrote on Wed, 07 April 2010 22:01 don't make me repost your picture Dover do the right thing and CLICK that LINK Carrier or Goztow should change his profile pic to his picture, if even for a day oh man that'd be gold
Okay, done reading all this. I'll say it in my own words instead of other people posting for me or other people stirring up certain things farther than what it really is. Trojan Do you understand why Xpert doesn't likes theses forums because everyone in ren hates his fucking guts. I don't care how many people hate me. Yay the world of C&C Renegade hates me! First, where is this coming from that I "hate these forums"? When did I ever say that? I don't even remember a time I talked about RenForums. A have about 400 posts and I don't think I have posted 1 thing negative on these forums itself in like forever. But that doesn't matter now does it? Trojan He is a pathetic, poor, mcdonalds employed, piece of shit that hacks peoples facebook and emails because the said person posted a picture of xpert on the forums. First off, where did get the information of me being poor? I'm not even near poor at all. I work at McDonalds. Are you implying all Mc. D employees are poor? For a side job, I get paid a lot of money there and it gave me college credits for my business classes in college. I'll take that even if it's from Mc. D. I do other things to make money but I don't have to discuss that since it is my life. I messed with one person's facebook and automatically I hack the world. I only did it to Anthrax because he continuously fucks with me for the last 3 years and I needed to put a scare on him for him to piss off. I gave him his shit back and he knows how I did it. I even told him about Facebook having the worst security ever and it's been proven. Just Google it. Trojan Does THAT constitute hacking a password off IRC to make himself feel a bit better about his feeble self. Again another lie. I didn't use IRC. Infact, I don't even know his password. If I used IRC, raven would know since he is a NetAdmin on my network and he can see the services channel. Trojan Please don't come on here and defend Xpert when you have no idea what has happened. You know his side of the story. You don't understand nor can you comprehend the situation and what has lead up to it. No one knows my side of the story. And neither do you nor do you know what has lead up to all this. Stop being a hypocrite. You're just making assumptions based on what has happened so far. shaitan Notice how he wont refute anything. He is guilty as hell. The reason I don't want to post stuff here is so it doesn't get out of hand. So just PM me or whatever. It's already gotten out of hand. shaitan Xpert likes to read personal forum PMs(Mine, dippy, Rengirl, Armani, and others), steal passwords from the forums Ok, let me get this shit clear about this whole PM reading thing, etc. These are Atomix's second forums. Our first ones were lost. I had a person named Hawk (some people know him on IRC as NotHawk or Tyler, or whatever other 1000 names he had), but I had him re-do the Atomix forums. Eventually I removed him for being inactive. Then a week before the incident in November, I was looking through the emails that's connected with my site info and I found messages from the forums. It was the forums sending me emails every time someone made a new one as if it was a PM to me. I freaked out. I knew it wasn't from IPB itself because I've had version 2.3.4 before and I never had that occur ever. So every time I got the messages, I would just delete them. Then that day came a week later where I was on a "rampage" due to an incident in my family. So a few people were on a revolt against me talking about making a new community and all that. So while reading emails, I got those PM messages again. I read 3 of them and only 3 of them. 1 was a PM sent from Armani to RenGirl and the other 2 were from Speedy to Dippy. Those 2 pms contained stuff about the whole "take over Atomix" whatever stuff. Long story short, that passed on, got stopped from there and things were resolved for now at that time. But I was still under heat about the pm reading. I don't feel good about it myself and I read them anyways. So I googled and looked around for awhile. I couldn't find a solution. So I upgraded the IPB to 2.3.6. By then I realized, it stopped. I didn't get the emails again. I will still under heat about the whole PM thing so I even told shai, I don't know where it comes from, and I remember sending a screenshot to someone about it to maybe help me find the problem. I even told Shai to ask Hero to look around the web stuff since he was our web admin at that time. To my understanding, nothing came up. Now fast forward, this brings me to today, I went and talked to Hawk who happened to be on IRC. I asked him about it but I have a feeling he's lying so whatever. Quote: Session Start: Wed Apr 07 14:21:20 2010 Session Ident: NotHawk [14:21:30] <Xpert> I have 2 questions for you [14:21:40] <NotHawk> hm [14:22:06] <Xpert> First one, when you first made these forums before I upgraded it myself, did you install something [14:22:09] <Xpert> That sends me emails [14:22:13] <Xpert> Of other people's PMs [14:22:16] <Xpert> On those forums [14:22:27] <NotHawk> no sir i never had time to mes with bs [14:22:50] <Xpert> Are you sure, because you're the only one who was messing with the website when you were the Web Admin. [14:23:03] <NotHawk> yes sir i know i didnt install nothin [14:23:07] <Xpert> The site use to send me emails to my admin email account and it would be of other people's PMs [14:23:18] <NotHawk> hmm thats weird [14:23:35] <NotHawk> who else had ftp [14:23:37] <Xpert> I deleted those emails because that shit is intrusive. [14:23:45] <Xpert> Just you at THAT TIME. [14:24:04] <NotHawk> Oh hm nah i didn't So I'm gonna say it again, I can't read pms on these forums. And password stealing? I don't have that either. So you can hop off of me for that. If you want proof, look up IPB stuff on it. I came across this while googling: Quote: to generate the passwords, ipb generates an md5 hash of it, "salts" it, and then re-hashes the salt. the salt i beleive is stored in ibf_members_extra, but i am not sure. note: it is unique for each user knowing what my own password was, i tried this via the SQL toolkit thing in IPB admin... just to see if i could get it to match. i ran the following query: SELECT md5(concat(md5('abcdefgh'),'#####')) where 'abcdefgh' was my password that i knew and '#####' was the salt stored in the members_converge.converge_pass_salt field. it did not match either the members.member_login_key or the members_converge.converge_pass_hash fields for my user... ugh, i figured this would be a simple hash or hash and salt that i could duplicate, didn't expect to not be able to discover this... Trojan Best not to get more people involved in this drama. The only people getting other people involved in this mess is the people who I booted or left Atomix. We look like the bad guys here because we were the first to take action. This thing has been in works for ages. It's just now finally being executed just because everyone finally got booted.
so how did you wind up with anthrax's password then
looks like atomix pulled a n00bstories. Wonder whose the next community to split?
I never had his password to begin with. That's what I'm getting at. If I find the logs between me and Anthrax, it shows what I told him on how I did it. It's on my PC somewhere but I don't see it being important since it was an issue between me and Anthrax only. I even told him how to avoid some issues of it ever happening.