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Hey. As some of you who know me or have seen my other posts might remember me mentioning how badly I wanted to join the Military or be a Law Enforcement Agent.Well, my dream was cut short because of chronic back problems. Well today I walked into the surgeons for my appointment and for the last few years I have been the things he has handed to me with tons of enthusiam in hope of improving my back in whatever way possible to live my dream. Well today he told me the words that just changed my life. He said that I was cleared and would be able to do what I wanted. Now onto about the U.S. Army Special Forces. Its been a dream of mine to be part of an elite team like this that can go in it out without being noticed, only to leave the enemy lying on the ground wondering what hit them.Well know that im cleared to join and only have one more year until graduation I have been considering hopefully branching into that part of the service. While I still have some back problems(not enough to stop me) I am extremely fit for my age and prolly are one of the top in my school. So physically im there. Mentally im not. And I know that the special forces are all about mentality. I really dont care about people, you live and you learn and get f****d many times over. My motto is if you don't like me b*ow me. Now you might be wondering why im posting this here.......well ive been told my whole life I was a mistake and was not supposed to be born and that Ill never amount to anything, well now that I can prove them wrong I need your guys help. Any information on being part of the Special Forces or being a Ranger would be greatly appreciated. Anyone that is actually a member or was would be even more appreciated and I would love to talk to you one on one! Thanks so much
My advice? Come up here to Canada. Our Military 0wns j00. =)
Javaxcx My advice? Come up here to Canada. Our Military 0wns j00. =) LOL This has to be the joke of the century Canada's military doesnt own anyone. They spend next to nothing on it...probably a result of being neighbors with the super power of the world. The USA spends more $$ on the MARINES ALONE than all of the Canadian military If DBB were to goto Canada he could maybe be 'special forces Mountie' LOL
If he joined the Canadian military then they could give the beavers a rest .
"Canada's military doesnt own anyone." i agree, (im from Canada too) but for cryin out loud, just last week one of our seakings crashed on a....well it was ONE of our boats, and i mean those seakings are freakin old, i think i heaard somewhere we bought em after WW2, i mean COME ON!!! the U.S. armed forces alone could likely take out our entire millitary force....sad
Why go to Canadian Army? You can go to the Franch Army! ""RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! ITS THE FRENCH!"" Now, for some odd reson, that sounds really queer....When was the last time France attacked or raided/invaded some other country? lmao :sigh:
PsY Why go to Canadian Army? You can go to the Franch Army! ""RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! ITS THE FRENCH!"" Now, for some odd reson, that sounds really queer....When was the last time France attacked or raided/invaded some other country? lmao :sigh: Where exactly is Franch ? jk edit ur shit before someone else pisses in ur Cherios
PsY Why go to Canadian Army? You can go to the Franch Army! ""RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! ITS THE FRENCH!"" Now, for some odd reson, that sounds really queer....When was the last time France attacked or raided/invaded some other country? lmao :sigh: Ph33r me !
one of a few places where a guy can escape from all this warmongering and then u get this. gtfo games = recreation.
Whats the difference between the French and Toast? You can make soldiers out of toast. Bad joke, but its true.
Hehehehehe... I like the polish army jokes: I like going up against the polish army. Some polish guy threw a grenade at me. I pick it up pulled the pin and threw it back. You heard about the new polish submarine. Yeah, it has screen doors builted onto it.
I am from the UK Both my grandads were in the war and they both always told me about stupid things the americans did like accidentally killing each other, and also he said that they claimed all the glory for everything the english did for example. Can you remember the "enigma" the germans secret coding device which was portraited in the film U571 the english were the actual people that captured it from the U boat not the americans. I have nothing against the americans so dont come back flaming me if you disagree it will just prove my grandads theory that the "americans think there allways right". 1 more thing all the ships that america sold to the UK WHICH we fitted with our own interior were sold back to the americans cause our country were in so much debt (if you didnt know the UK only just paid off all the money they owed from the war about a 2 years ago) and when they got back my grandad watched as everything we had built and crafted into the ships were ripped out by the americans and thrown out into big garbage trucks and taken off to a dump and this wasnt just a few seats and a desk or 2 it was extremely expensive equipment which the UK could have used.....
snipefrag I am from the UK Both my grandads were in the war and they both always told me about stupid things the americans did like accidentally killing each other, and also he said that they claimed all the glory for everything the english did for example. Can you remember the "enigma" the germans secret coding device which was portraited in the film U571 the english were the actual people that captured it from the U boat not the americans. I have nothing against the americans so dont come back flaming me if you disagree it will just prove my grandads theory that the "americans think there allways right". 1 more thing all the ships that america sold to the UK WHICH we fitted with our own interior were sold back to the americans cause our country were in so much debt (if you didnt know the UK only just paid off all the money they owed from the war about a 2 years ago) and when they got back my grandad watched as everything we had built and crafted into the ships were ripped out by the americans and thrown out into big garbage trucks and taken off to a dump and this wasnt just a few seats and a desk or 2 it was extremely expensive equipment which the UK could have used..... *Shurgs shoulders* Sooooooo.... whats your point.
yeah... right... your dream is to be in the US Army... OMG! :rolleyes:
John Shaft Jr. snipefrag I am from the UK Both my grandads were in the war and they both always told me about stupid things the americans did like accidentally killing each other, and also he said that they claimed all the glory for everything the english did for example. Can you remember the "enigma" the germans secret coding device which was portraited in the film U571 the english were the actual people that captured it from the U boat not the americans. I have nothing against the americans so dont come back flaming me if you disagree it will just prove my grandads theory that the "americans think there allways right". 1 more thing all the ships that america sold to the UK WHICH we fitted with our own interior were sold back to the americans cause our country were in so much debt (if you didnt know the UK only just paid off all the money they owed from the war about a 2 years ago) and when they got back my grandad watched as everything we had built and crafted into the ships were ripped out by the americans and thrown out into big garbage trucks and taken off to a dump and this wasnt just a few seats and a desk or 2 it was extremely expensive equipment which the UK could have used..... *Shurgs shoulders* Sooooooo.... whats your point. My points are: [list] [*] Considering how much money the americans have they arnt all there cracked up to be i heard a fact that the americans secret service cant remember there name (not to into wars and stuff that much) have not completed a sucsessful mission before... [*] And they dont see beyond there own current situation, eg just destroying valuable machinery which to them was proberbly feeble but to us was all we could afford for 20 years.. [/list:u]
So in other words you just come on here to brag. :twisted: :twisted:
I would go with the Foreign Legion... Yossarian lives!
If i were to join an army it would be my home country the UK I mean we have such heritage you can't go anywhere aroud the english cost without bumping in to a old fort or musem where all out past heritage is stored. The United Kingdom used to be much more powerful and strong we discover lots of parts of the globe we were the first people to sail round the world we have the pride (well at least we used to)... I just like the idea of fighting for queen and country the good old english but alas the days of pride have passed and we now are among the weaker powers of the world... My pride still lives on so the UK would be my choice (MI5 = kool ). -Sk8rRIMuk
Sk8rRIMuk If i were to join an army it would be my home country the UK I mean we have such heritage you can't go anywhere aroud the english cost without bumping in to a old fort or musem where all out past heritage is stored. The United Kingdom used to be much more powerful and strong we discover lots of parts of the globe we were the first people to sail round the world we have the pride (well at least we used to)... I just like the idea of fighting for queen and country the good old english but alas the days of pride have passed and we now are among the weaker powers of the world... My pride still lives on so the UK would be my choice (MI5 = kool ). -Sk8rRIMuk Yeah, proud about the British Empire? How it massacred millions of civilians all over the world and enslaved dozens of countries explointing the poeple and the resources? Sure, you are definately proud of that! People like you make me sick
snipefrag My points are: [list] [*] Considering how much money the americans have they arnt all there cracked up to be i heard a fact that the americans secret service cant remember there name (not to into wars and stuff that much) have not completed a sucsessful mission before... [*] And they dont see beyond there own current situation, eg just destroying valuable machinery which to them was proberbly feeble but to us was all we could afford for 20 years.. [/list:u] So your saying Americans are : 1) Blowhards 2) Stupid 3) Liars "...they claimed all the glory for everything the english did for example." So the Americans could of stayed @ home and WWII would of gone the same way ? Yes please do tell me how the English etc had the WWII situation all under control seeing as they drug us into it. "I have nothing against the americans so dont come back flaming me if you disagree it will just prove my grandads theory that the "americans think there allways right". " Your a fine piece of work, I bet you feel pretty nice about this post of yours. The line of thinking you present is pretty typical actually, try not to feel too special. I can see where your comming from by a fatal flaw in your speel(sp?). You presupose that anyone who disagees w/you will be an American. Implicating that no one else on the face of the earth should have anything good to say about this evil America of ours. What do you think would happen to the world economy if America closed off all trade and became an isolated country ? Well for starters Canada & Mexico would have to start acting like real countries instead of little brothers of the biggest kid on the block. FAR beyond that how happy would your world be ? According to you it seems it would be a much happier place. America does FAR MORE for the world than the world does for it see peace keeping missions, the removal of Hitler, BILLIONS of dollars in aid that we will NEVER get back...I mean for real the list is hella long. I'm so sure Americans are the only ppl to have friendly fire deaths durring war...are you for real ? I dispose of things all the time that less fortunate ppl in other countries may have to work their WHOLE LIFE and still never have...sooooo whats your point. I could play your silly game and say anyone who disagrees w/me and flames me back is proving my point that people aren't gratefull of America and the good things we do for the world. Not so much fun now, is it ? Sometimes I wish us stupid blowhard Americans would close the borders, leave the UN and let the rest of the world enjoy an existence w/o us for a while. PS. its America not america -- try and show a tinge of respect for the greatest nation on earth, the super power of the world...We may be handing you your country back one day. Anyways its really late so I cant say/edit everything I'd like to. :rolleyes: The One
You know it might be interesting to watch the united states close their borders. Then we can watch as their economy falls apart as they are mainly secondary industries. Only countries with enough primary industries could successfully close their borders. The united states would run out of oil, certain metals (copper is a major one), possibly food, maybe even water if us Canadians decided to dam some of the rivers flowing into the united states. Sorry about dropping to this level but I just can't hold back on oppertunities to throw my tiny bit of mud at the hulking beast that is in bad need of a power cap. As for Canada's military, we anything but mal-equipt. We have what we need. You don't need millions of men to defend a country from wars that will not start within 50 years. We have a navy made mainly to support the UN. We have a military to aid UN actions. And we have an airforce assist the UN peacekeep. We don't worry about wars coming to our door. Sorry again I am a proud Canadian. DDB good luck on your dream. Nice to hear you are finaly able to have a shot at at. Though I also hope you won't be exposed to too much combat. Wouldn't want you being injured.[/b]
eggmac Sk8rRIMuk If i were to join an army it would be my home country the UK I mean we have such heritage you can't go anywhere aroud the english cost without bumping in to a old fort or musem where all out past heritage is stored. The United Kingdom used to be much more powerful and strong we discover lots of parts of the globe we were the first people to sail round the world we have the pride (well at least we used to)... I just like the idea of fighting for queen and country the good old english but alas the days of pride have passed and we now are among the weaker powers of the world... My pride still lives on so the UK would be my choice (MI5 = kool ). -Sk8rRIMuk Yeah, proud about the British Empire? How it massacred millions of civilians all over the world and enslaved dozens of countries explointing the poeple and the resources? Sure, you are definately proud of that! People like you make me sick And egg what did the Germans do? They almost erased and entire race. That is something to be proud of eh?
8 years US Army 2 of them active, and proud of it! Desert Storm Vet. So all of you anti-Americans can go to HELL!
K9Trooper 8 years US Army 2 of them active, and proud of it! Desert Storm Vet. So all of you anti-Americans can go to HELL! Amen sir!
eggmac yeah... right... your dream is to be in the US Army... OMG! :rolleyes: Some have different dreams then others, and when you dont know the person then you shouldnt bash them. :shocked:
Javaxcx My advice? Come up here to Canada. Our Military 0wns j00. =) LOL That is so funny! Canada has one of the smallest, and weakest military/army/airforce/etc. They can only afford those dinky little aircraft carriers that can only launch helo's and harriers. lol... (I only seen maybe 1 full size carrier, wouldn't give them that much credit) Vy7a1 "Canada's military doesnt own anyone." i agree, (im from Canada too) but for cryin out loud, just last week one of our seakings crashed on a....well it was ONE of our boats, and i mean those seakings are freakin old, i think i heaard somewhere we bought em after WW2, i mean COME ON!!! the U.S. armed forces alone could likely take out our entire millitary force....sad Those seakings are american helos (they're not that old, they're like 1970s aircraft...) John Shaft Jr. snipefrag I am from the UK Both my grandads were in the war and they both always told me about stupid things the americans did like accidentally killing each other, and also he said that they claimed all the glory for everything the english did for example. Can you remember the "enigma" the germans secret coding device which was portraited in the film U571 the english were the actual people that captured it from the U boat not the americans. I have nothing against the americans so dont come back flaming me if you disagree it will just prove my grandads theory that the "americans think there allways right". 1 more thing all the ships that america sold to the UK WHICH we fitted with our own interior were sold back to the americans cause our country were in so much debt (if you didnt know the UK only just paid off all the money they owed from the war about a 2 years ago) and when they got back my grandad watched as everything we had built and crafted into the ships were ripped out by the americans and thrown out into big garbage trucks and taken off to a dump and this wasnt just a few seats and a desk or 2 it was extremely expensive equipment which the UK could have used..... *Shurgs shoulders* Sooooooo.... whats your point. The interriors were crap... If you want something done right, than trash the euro crap and install it yourself...
K9Trooper And egg what did the Germans do? They almost erased and entire race. That is something to be proud of eh? No. That's exactly my point, you can't be porud of a country that's responsible for so much bloodshed. What 'Commando' says makes much sense, btw. What 'The One' says is one of the greates crap I've ever read, tbh.
Commando no. 448 You know it might be interesting to watch the united states close their borders. Then we can watch as their economy falls apart as they are mainly secondary industries. Only countries with enough primary industries could successfully close their borders. The united states would run out of oil, certain metals (copper is a major one), possibly food, maybe even water if us Canadians decided to dam some of the rivers flowing into the united states. Sorry about dropping to this level but I just can't hold back on oppertunities to throw my tiny bit of mud at the hulking beast that is in bad need of a power cap. As for Canada's military, we anything but mal-equipt. We have what we need. You don't need millions of men to defend a country from wars that will not start within 50 years. We have a navy made mainly to support the UN. We have a military to aid UN actions. And we have an airforce assist the UN peacekeep. We don't worry about wars coming to our door. Sorry again I am a proud Canadian. DDB good luck on your dream. Nice to hear you are finaly able to have a shot at at. Though I also hope you won't be exposed to too much combat. Wouldn't want you being injured.[/b] Alaska has the second largest oil field in the world. Texas can produce just as much oil as Iraq. The US is a secondary Industry???? How do you figure? If we were to close our borders the world economy would crumble. You depend on us for money to keep your countries going. Don't deny it. Where would Germany, France, Russia, China, Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, U.K, Japan, Korea, Mexico..... the list goes on if it wasn't for the good ole "U.S. Green BacK"? Please tell me.Europe had to form a Unoon for its currency just to compete with the dollar, but in the end the US dollar still 0wns j00. And food? We produce more food than you, UK, Germany and Russia combined. I'm from a state that produces more milk than anywhere in the world!
Sir Phoenixx Javaxcx My advice? Come up here to Canada. Our Military 0wns j00. =) LOL That is so funny! Canada has one of the smallest, and weakest military/army/airforce/etc. They can only afford those dinky little aircraft carriers that can only launch helo's and harriers. lol... (I only seen maybe 1 full size carrier, wouldn't give them that much credit) Rather than be a belligerent little child, I'm not going to point of the many problems with the American or British Military forces. Someone in this thread said: "We have what we need." Being a peacekeeping nation, our Military is almost 100% devoted to the UN. Why else would we need it? We're not war-mongers. I'm proud to be able to say "I am Canadian", and also be a part of our Air Force as of next year. Currently, I am working with the Reserves, and will soon be either one of two things: 1) Going to school at RMC, finishing in my 4th year with my Commission, and 2nd Leftentants. 2) Move up north to CFB Bordon and enlist as an Air Reserve until I get into RMC. Remember, it's not the size of your Army, it's how you use it. And as far as Canada goes, we're using it for all the right reasons based on the actions of the UN.
Javaxcx My advice? Come up here to Canada. Our Military 0wns j00. =) Yeah, canada will kick any ass [/sarcasm] lol, i doubt it.
Javaxcx Sir Phoenixx Javaxcx My advice? Come up here to Canada. Our Military 0wns j00. =) LOL That is so funny! Canada has one of the smallest, and weakest military/army/airforce/etc. They can only afford those dinky little aircraft carriers that can only launch helo's and harriers. lol... (I only seen maybe 1 full size carrier, wouldn't give them that much credit) Rather than be a belligerent little child, I'm not going to point of the many problems with the American or British Military forces. Someone in this thread said: "We have what we need." Being a peacekeeping nation, our Military is almost 100% devoted to the UN. Why else would we need it? We're not war-mongers. I'm proud to be able to say "I am Canadian", and also be a part of our Air Force as of next year. Currently, I am working with the Reserves, and will soon be either one of two things: 1) Going to school at RMC, finishing in my 4th year with my Commission, and 2nd Leftentants. 2) Move up north to CFB Bordon and enlist as an Air Reserve until I get into RMC. Remember, it's not the size of your Army, it's how you use it. And as far as Canada goes, we're using it for all the right reasons based on the actions of the UN. Java, I have nothing against the Canadian Military, but the UN is not all it's cracked up to be. Look at Bosnia(sp) they had the same kind of crap going on there as in Iraq. A leader ruling using fear and killing off "The unclean". Ethnic cleansing. Kurds in Iraq, Serbs vs Croaits(sp) in Bosnia. The UN suported going after Milosovich(sp bad) but doesn't have the balls to go after Iraq. Why? Because Iraq owes half the world money. NEWS FLASH!!! NONE OF THOSE COUNTRIES WILL EVER SEE THAT MONEY! So grab your sacks and make a stand against this tyrant.
eggmac What 'Commando' says makes much sense, btw. What 'The One' says is one of the greates crap I've ever read, tbh. Which one of my points did you think was total crap so I can refute you : (It is rather easy to say "I think what you said is crap." and not make any poitns) 1) WWII would of been the same w/o America 2) America is the only country that has friendly fire casulities in war 3) Canada & Mexico are acting just as they would if America didn't exist (ie military responsibilty, having sufficient forces to defend the motherland (not just go on UN world tours)) 4) America does more for the world than the world does for America 5) The world economy relies on America more-so than America relies on the world economy. So will you respond, ignore this or simply say this is crap w/no evidence (again)....I'd prefer you respond ps. The UN doesn't own the world or your military...but hey it's a great excuse to not build up your military to a respectable size...oh but were doing what the UN wants and we all know the UN is never wrong.
Sir Phoenixx Javaxcx My advice? Come up here to Canada. Our Military 0wns j00. =) LOL That is so funny! Canada has one of the smallest, and weakest military/army/airforce/etc. They can only afford those dinky little aircraft carriers that can only launch helo's and harriers. lol... (I only seen maybe 1 full size carrier, wouldn't give them that much credit) Vy7a1 "Canada's military doesnt own anyone." i agree, (im from Canada too) but for cryin out loud, just last week one of our seakings crashed on a....well it was ONE of our boats, and i mean those seakings are freakin old, i think i heaard somewhere we bought em after WW2, i mean COME ON!!! the U.S. armed forces alone could likely take out our entire millitary force....sad Those seakings are american helos (they're not that old, they're like 1970s aircraft...) John Shaft Jr. snipefrag I am from the UK Both my grandads were in the war and they both always told me about stupid things the americans did like accidentally killing each other, and also he said that they claimed all the glory for everything the english did for example. Can you remember the "enigma" the germans secret coding device which was portraited in the film U571 the english were the actual people that captured it from the U boat not the americans. I have nothing against the americans so dont come back flaming me if you disagree it will just prove my grandads theory that the "americans think there allways right". 1 more thing all the ships that america sold to the UK WHICH we fitted with our own interior were sold back to the americans cause our country were in so much debt (if you didnt know the UK only just paid off all the money they owed from the war about a 2 years ago) and when they got back my grandad watched as everything we had built and crafted into the ships were ripped out by the americans and thrown out into big garbage trucks and taken off to a dump and this wasnt just a few seats and a desk or 2 it was extremely expensive equipment which the UK could have used..... *Shurgs shoulders* Sooooooo.... whats your point. The interriors were crap... If you want something done right, than trash the euro crap and install it yourself... Even though im a canadian, i dont really care that i'm agreeing with you, our military is sh!t.
K9Trooper Javaxcx Sir Phoenixx Javaxcx My advice? Come up here to Canada. Our Military 0wns j00. =) LOL That is so funny! Canada has one of the smallest, and weakest military/army/airforce/etc. They can only afford those dinky little aircraft carriers that can only launch helo's and harriers. lol... (I only seen maybe 1 full size carrier, wouldn't give them that much credit) Rather than be a belligerent little child, I'm not going to point of the many problems with the American or British Military forces. Someone in this thread said: "We have what we need." Being a peacekeeping nation, our Military is almost 100% devoted to the UN. Why else would we need it? We're not war-mongers. I'm proud to be able to say "I am Canadian", and also be a part of our Air Force as of next year. Currently, I am working with the Reserves, and will soon be either one of two things: 1) Going to school at RMC, finishing in my 4th year with my Commission, and 2nd Leftentants. 2) Move up north to CFB Bordon and enlist as an Air Reserve until I get into RMC. Remember, it's not the size of your Army, it's how you use it. And as far as Canada goes, we're using it for all the right reasons based on the actions of the UN. Java, I have nothing against the Canadian Military, but the UN is not all it's cracked up to be. Look at Bosnia(sp) they had the same kind of crap going on there as in Iraq. A leader ruling using fear and killing off "The unclean". Ethnic cleansing. Kurds in Iraq, Serbs vs Croaits(sp) in Bosnia. The UN suported going after Milosovich(sp bad) but doesn't have the balls to go after Iraq. Why? Because Iraq owes half the world money. NEWS FLASH!!! NONE OF THOSE COUNTRIES WILL EVER SEE THAT MONEY! So grab your sacks and make a stand against this tyrant. I agree, the UN can be broadcasted as an "old guys club" when it comes to war, but since Canada has never had to actually defend itself since what, the 1800's? We don't need a Military, but we have one to help the world, if you can call ALL the actions of the UN "help".
[sg the0ne] eggmac What 'Commando' says makes much sense, btw. What 'The One' says is one of the greates crap I've ever read, tbh. Which one of my points did you think was total crap so I can refute you : (It is rather easy to say "I think what you said is crap." and not make any poitns) 1) WWII would of been the same w/o America 2) America is the only country that has friendly fire casulities in war 3) Canada & Mexico are acting just as they would if America didn't exist (ie military responsibilty, having sufficient forces to defend the motherland (not just go on UN world tours)) 4) America does more for the world than the world does for America 5) The world economy relies on America more-so than America relies on the world economy. So will you respond, ignore this or simply say this is crap w/no evidence (again)....I'd prefer you respond ps. The UN doesn't own the world or your military...but hey it's a great excuse to not build up your military to a respectable size...oh but were doing what the UN wants and we all know the UN is never wrong. 1. UK, Russia and China were all getting their asses kicked before the US formerly entered the war 2. There is not a single country that has EVER gone an entire war without a friendly fire casulity. It is impossible. Prove me wrong in this one. 3. Without the US, Mexico would have been under German control. Germany tried to convince Mexico to attack the US in WW1. We all know Germany has problems keeping its treaties. Canada would not have gained its independance if it wasn't for the US. 4. True 5. True
America isn't the only country to have friendly fire. That's just stupid to say that. Friendly fire is caused by low/poor/insufficient technology or bad communication. Not being able to detect rather the target is enemy, giving a convoy or whatever bad information, giving the wrong coordinates, etc. so that they end up in the wrong place at the wrong time. All countries, and all militaries in the world have some form of miscommunication along the way, they all make their mistakes, to single out America in saying we have the most is not based on facts, but your opinion towards America.
[sg the0ne] eggmac What 'Commando' says makes much sense, btw. What 'The One' says is one of the greates crap I've ever read, tbh. Which one of my points did you think was total crap so I can refute you : (It is rather easy to say "I think what you said is crap." and not make any poitns) 1) WWII would of been the same w/o America 2) America is the only country that has friendly fire casulities in war 3) Canada & Mexico are acting just as they would if America didn't exist (ie military responsibilty, having sufficient forces to defend the motherland (not just go on UN world tours)) 4) America does more for the world than the world does for America 5) The world economy relies on America more-so than America relies on the world economy. So will you respond, ignore this or simply say this is crap w/no evidence (again)....I'd prefer you respond ps. The UN doesn't own the world or your military...but hey it's a great excuse to not build up your military to a respectable size...oh but were doing what the UN wants and we all know the UN is never wrong. I do not agree with 3) 4) 5) About 2) I don't really care. 1): Of course it wouldn't be the same but don't exaggerate its role. You know my opinion. Quote: Look at Bosnia(sp) they had the same kind of crap going on there as in Iraq. A leader ruling using fear and killing off "The unclean". Ethnic cleansing. Kurds in Iraq, Serbs vs Croaits(sp) in Bosnia. The UN suported going after Milosovich(sp bad) but doesn't have the balls to go after Iraq. I don't think you really know what you're talking about. Do you really believe every single word of your media and your politicians ? That's just plain propaganda about Yougoslavia and Iraq.
eggmac What 'Commando' says makes much sense, btw. What 'The One' says is one of the greates crap I've ever read, tbh. Which one of my points did you think was total crap so I can refute you : (It is rather easy to say "I think what you said is crap." and not make any poitns) 1) WWII would of been the same w/o America 2) America is the only country that has friendly fire casulities in war 3) Canada & Mexico are acting just as they would if America didn't exist (ie military responsibilty, having sufficient forces to defend the motherland (not just go on UN world tours)) 4) America does more for the world than the world does for America 5) The world economy relies on America more-so than America relies on the world economy. So will you respond, ignore this or simply say this is crap w/no evidence (again)....I'd prefer you respond ps. The UN doesn't own the world or your military...but hey it's a great excuse to not build up your military to a respectable size...oh but were doing what the UN wants and we all know the UN is never wrong. I do not agree with 3) 4) 5) About 2) I don't really care. 1): Of course it wouldn't be the same but don't exaggerate its role. You know my opinion. "I do not agree with 3) 4) 5) About 2) I don't really care." Could of just said I dont agree w/anything you said & do not need to provide any supporting statements. Nice job - once again chosing to disagee (which is certainly your right) but not providing any supporting facts/information/evidence. Bravo !
Commando no. 448 DDB good luck on your dream. Nice to hear you are finaly able to have a shot at at. Though I also hope you won't be exposed to too much combat. Wouldn't want you being injured.[/b] Thanks man I appreciate it.
DBB, Sorry to hijack your thread BTW & good luck w/your hopes of joining a special forces divison !
Have fun blowing stuff up.
Well this is suprisingly civilised and impersonal. I never claimed that the world economy wouldn't crumble without the united states. Certain foods would run out. I admit I didn't give the oil much thought. But there would be less to go around. And your econmoy is a great part secondary and tertairy. Your computer industry would fall to shambles though within a few years. I will add to my list when I come back. Nothing personal but I enjoy civilized discussions like this. A chance to share my views and challenge my mind.
[sg the0ne] Nice job - once again chosing to disagee (which is certainly your right) but not providing any supporting facts/information/evidence. Bravo ! How can I possibly answer such a statement like "America does more for the world than the world does for America". I mean, what 'facts' do you want to hear? The statement itself is just so crazy that you can't debate it. The only proper answer would be "America doesn't give a fuck about the rest of the world"
eggmac [sg the0ne] eggmac What 'Commando' says makes much sense, btw. What 'The One' says is one of the greates crap I've ever read, tbh. Which one of my points did you think was total crap so I can refute you : (It is rather easy to say "I think what you said is crap." and not make any poitns) 1) WWII would of been the same w/o America 2) America is the only country that has friendly fire casulities in war 3) Canada & Mexico are acting just as they would if America didn't exist (ie military responsibilty, having sufficient forces to defend the motherland (not just go on UN world tours)) 4) America does more for the world than the world does for America 5) The world economy relies on America more-so than America relies on the world economy. So will you respond, ignore this or simply say this is crap w/no evidence (again)....I'd prefer you respond ps. The UN doesn't own the world or your military...but hey it's a great excuse to not build up your military to a respectable size...oh but were doing what the UN wants and we all know the UN is never wrong. I do not agree with 3) 4) 5) About 2) I don't really care. 1): Of course it wouldn't be the same but don't exaggerate its role. You know my opinion. Quote: Look at Bosnia(sp) they had the same kind of crap going on there as in Iraq. A leader ruling using fear and killing off "The unclean". Ethnic cleansing. Kurds in Iraq, Serbs vs Croaits(sp) in Bosnia. The UN suported going after Milosovich(sp bad) but doesn't have the balls to go after Iraq. I don't think you really know what you're talking about. Do you really believe every single word of your media and your politicians ? That's just plain propaganda about Yougoslavia and Iraq. Egg, I'm a US Army veteran. I've seen and done more than you could imagine. I'm also educated. Your claim on our government and propaganda is wrong. Prove to me that it is just propaganda. BTW I have a buddy on the fire department with me, that came from Bosnia. We have heard of the first hand experience and life he and his family had to endure. Can you prove a former citizen wrong? LOL I would like to see you try.
eggmac [sg the0ne] Nice job - once again chosing to disagee (which is certainly your right) but not providing any supporting facts/information/evidence. Bravo ! How can I possibly answer such a statement like "America does more for the world than the world does for America". I mean, what 'facts' do you want to hear? The statement itself is just so crazy that you can't debate it. The only proper answer would be "America doesn't give a fuck about the rest of the world" You can't argue it but I can. Let's go back in time and say there was no thriteen conlonies. Let's say england sat out on colonizing the americas. Now let's say it was now only the french in the north and the spanish in the south. They might meet somewhere around florida (spanish wouldn't head very far north looking for gold.) So now we have new spain and new france. Still think the world hasn't done atleast as much for armerica as the america did for the world? The world created the United States. No country is has done more for the rest of the world then the world did for it. The United States owes the rest of the world its existance. All countries owes the rest of the world their existance. No country could form without the help of another. Even the first country had help from areas that would become countries
DBB Hey. As some of you who know me or have seen my other posts might remember me mentioning how badly I wanted to join the Military or be a Law Enforcement Agent.Well, my dream was cut short because of chronic back problems. Well today I walked into the surgeons for my appointment and for the last few years I have been the things he has handed to me with tons of enthusiam in hope of improving my back in whatever way possible to live my dream. Well today he told me the words that just changed my life. He said that I was cleared and would be able to do what I wanted. Now onto about the U.S. Army Special Forces. Its been a dream of mine to be part of an elite team like this that can go in it out without being noticed, only to leave the enemy lying on the ground wondering what hit them.Well know that im cleared to join and only have one more year until graduation I have been considering hopefully branching into that part of the service. While I still have some back problems(not enough to stop me) I am extremely fit for my age and prolly are one of the top in my school. So physically im there. Mentally im not. And I know that the special forces are all about mentality. I really dont care about people, you live and you learn and get f****d many times over. My motto is if you don't like me b*ow me. Now you might be wondering why im posting this here.......well ive been told my whole life I was a mistake and was not supposed to be born and that Ill never amount to anything, well now that I can prove them wrong I need your guys help. Any information on being part of the Special Forces or being a Ranger would be greatly appreciated. Anyone that is actually a member or was would be even more appreciated and I would love to talk to you one on one! Thanks so much First of all, for what it's worth, I'm sorry to see that you could'nt ask for a little help without getting this shit! I think it's VERY rude when someone takes someone else's thread and turns it into a flamefest, especially when that person has a legitimate request (though I'm not suprised because it seems to happen about every time someone mentions anything about the military). I rememeber you talking about joining and I'm glad to hear that your in good health. Sorry I can't help with special forces info, I spent 4 yrs. in the Marine Corps. as an Infantry Rifleman and it sounds like you're interested in the Army. I know there are some guys here that served in the Army, and maybe once the flames die down they'll give you some info. The best advice I could give you is DON'T EVER let anyone convince you that you're a mistake or that you won't amount to anything (but it sounds like you've got that one covered ) Anyway, I wish you the best in whatever you you decide to do Let us know how it's going.
Commando no. 448 eggmac [sg the0ne] Nice job - once again chosing to disagee (which is certainly your right) but not providing any supporting facts/information/evidence. Bravo ! How can I possibly answer such a statement like "America does more for the world than the world does for America". I mean, what 'facts' do you want to hear? The statement itself is just so crazy that you can't debate it. The only proper answer would be "America doesn't give a fuck about the rest of the world" You can't argue it but I can. Let's go back in time and say there was no thriteen conlonies. Let's say england sat out on colonizing the americas. Now let's say it was now only the french in the north and the spanish in the south. They might meet somewhere around florida (spanish wouldn't head very far north looking for gold.) So now we have new spain and new france. Still think the world hasn't done atleast as much for armerica as the america did for the world? The world created the United States. No country is has done more for the rest of the world then the world did for it. The United States owes the rest of the world its existance. All countries owes the rest of the world their existance. No country could form without the help of another. Even the first country had help from areas that would become countries Good points, save the fact the French would probably flee America when the sun changed direction & they saw their shadows. (I mean for real they let the Nazi's walk in and take their country). What are you trying to get at here ? That no country should recognize or thank their founder fathers/hard work/dedication/moral principles/ppl who shed blood&died for the USA [etc] but should rather be thanking the rest of the world for their existence ? Dear Europe, thanks for not being successfull when trying crush us/control us. Dear Spain, thanks for taking one for the team and losing the Spanish American war. Dear Japan, thanks for not being able to conquer us even though you also were as depraved as to use 'suicide-bombers'. Dear former Solviet Union, thank you for letting us exist. Dear France - thanks for the Statue of Liberty and thanks for selling Iraq military weapons as recent as January. As of now the USA is the global super power. If we were ruthless other countries would be thanking us for allowing them to exist, not the other way around. We had to fight for this country and we won then became the super power of the world. End of story. Your right America doesn't give a fuck about the rest of the world. Thats why we have thousands of troops in foriegn land (see Germany/Europe/Korea), send out peace keeping misions, standing up for other people (see Iraq where in the last "election" Saddam got 99% of the vote and they tallied all of this less than 24hrs) and BILLIONS of dollars in aid / loans we will never see again. But hey you just may be right...America doesn't give a flip about anyone. You know if America weren't #1 but rather #2/#3/#4 on the "super power" list we wouldn't be having this convo - you'd be talking about how the OTHER #1 nation owes everyone else for their greatness. Stop trying to be a leach of greatness. PLEASE EMAIL ME to talk about this personally -- I dont like hijacking threads.
[sg the0ne] Commando no. 448 eggmac [sg the0ne] Nice job - once again chosing to disagee (which is certainly your right) but not providing any supporting facts/information/evidence. Bravo ! How can I possibly answer such a statement like "America does more for the world than the world does for America". I mean, what 'facts' do you want to hear? The statement itself is just so crazy that you can't debate it. The only proper answer would be "America doesn't give a fuck about the rest of the world" You can't argue it but I can. Let's go back in time and say there was no thriteen conlonies. Let's say england sat out on colonizing the americas. Now let's say it was now only the french in the north and the spanish in the south. They might meet somewhere around florida (spanish wouldn't head very far north looking for gold.) So now we have new spain and new france. Still think the world hasn't done atleast as much for armerica as the america did for the world? The world created the United States. No country is has done more for the rest of the world then the world did for it. The United States owes the rest of the world its existance. All countries owes the rest of the world their existance. No country could form without the help of another. Even the first country had help from areas that would become countries Good points, save the fact the French would probably flee America when the sun changed direction & they saw their shadows. (I mean for real they let the Nazi's walk in and take their country). What are you trying to get at here ? That no country should recognize or thank their founder fathers/hard work/dedication/moral principles/ppl who shed blood&died for the USA [etc] but should rather be thanking the rest of the world for their existence ? Dear Europe, thanks for not being successfull when trying crush us/control us. Dear Spain, thanks for taking one for the team and losing the Spanish American war. Dear Japan, thanks for not being able to conquer us even though you also were as depraved as to use 'suicide-bombers'. Dear former Solviet Union, thank you for letting us exist. Dear France - thanks for the Statue of Liberty and thanks for selling Iraq military weapons as recent as January. As of now the USA is the global super power. If we were ruthless other countries would be thanking us for allowing them to exist, not the other way around. We had to fight for this country and we won then became the super power of the world. End of story. Your right America doesn't give a fuck about the rest of the world. Thats why we have thousands of troops in foriegn land (see Germany/Europe/Korea), send out peace keeping misions, standing up for other people (see Iraq where in the last "election" Saddam got 99% of the vote and they tallied all of this less than 24hrs) and BILLIONS of dollars in aid / loans we will never see again. But hey you just may be right...America doesn't give a flip about anyone. You know if America weren't #1 but rather #2/#3/#4 on the "super power" list we wouldn't be having this convo - you'd be talking about how the OTHER #1 nation owes everyone else for their greatness. Stop trying to be a leach of greatness. PLEASE EMAIL ME to talk about this personally -- I dont like hijacking threads. Amen
K9Trooper Amen Amen Indeed
My opinon/advice. My Dad was a Ranger (He's a matanence/instructor Pilot now for UH-60s), he'd tell me all his war stories. The only advice he ever gave me is, If I ever join the Rangers, don't get a wife.
afkaos My opinon/advice. My Dad was a Ranger (He's a matanence/instructor Pilot now for UH-60s), he'd tell me all his war stories. The only advice he ever gave me is, If I ever join the Rangers, don't get a wife. Yes. Family life tied in with Military life is VERY stressful for the family. If you have a wife, make sure you're really close, and she has ALOT of patience. You'll also be moving around alot. If you are on the Reg Force, you will most likely spend your time on a base, and can move as frequintely as every year. (At least here in Canada)
Javaxcx afkaos My opinon/advice. My Dad was a Ranger (He's a matanence/instructor Pilot now for UH-60s), he'd tell me all his war stories. The only advice he ever gave me is, If I ever join the Rangers, don't get a wife. Yes. Family life tied in with Military life is VERY stressful for the family. If you have a wife, make sure you're really close, and she has ALOT of patience. You'll also be moving around alot. If you are on the Reg Force, you will most likely spend your time on a base, and can move as frequintely as every year. (At least here in Canada) Yep, i can remeber when i was 5 and my dad was in the Navy... huh, sorry, flashback. lol
I remember in a past life, I had to go to war in Europe on D-Day and leave my wife behind... Oops, sorry about that flash back... lol
Krazyfoxx DBB Hey. As some of you who know me or have seen my other posts might remember me mentioning how badly I wanted to join the Military or be a Law Enforcement Agent.Well, my dream was cut short because of chronic back problems. Well today I walked into the surgeons for my appointment and for the last few years I have been the things he has handed to me with tons of enthusiam in hope of improving my back in whatever way possible to live my dream. Well today he told me the words that just changed my life. He said that I was cleared and would be able to do what I wanted. Now onto about the U.S. Army Special Forces. Its been a dream of mine to be part of an elite team like this that can go in it out without being noticed, only to leave the enemy lying on the ground wondering what hit them.Well know that im cleared to join and only have one more year until graduation I have been considering hopefully branching into that part of the service. While I still have some back problems(not enough to stop me) I am extremely fit for my age and prolly are one of the top in my school. So physically im there. Mentally im not. And I know that the special forces are all about mentality. I really dont care about people, you live and you learn and get f****d many times over. My motto is if you don't like me b*ow me. Now you might be wondering why im posting this here.......well ive been told my whole life I was a mistake and was not supposed to be born and that Ill never amount to anything, well now that I can prove them wrong I need your guys help. Any information on being part of the Special Forces or being a Ranger would be greatly appreciated. Anyone that is actually a member or was would be even more appreciated and I would love to talk to you one on one! Thanks so much First of all, for what it's worth, I'm sorry to see that you could'nt ask for a little help without getting this shit! I think it's VERY rude when someone takes someone else's thread and turns it into a flamefest, especially when that person has a legitimate request (though I'm not suprised because it seems to happen about every time someone mentions anything about the military). I rememeber you talking about joining and I'm glad to hear that your in good health. Sorry I can't help with special forces info, I spent 4 yrs. in the Marine Corps. as an Infantry Rifleman and it sounds like you're interested in the Army. I know there are some guys here that served in the Army, and maybe once the flames die down they'll give you some info. The best advice I could give you is DON'T EVER let anyone convince you that you're a mistake or that you won't amount to anything (but it sounds like you've got that one covered ) Anyway, I wish you the best in whatever you you decide to do Let us know how it's going. Thanks for the support man I really take it to heart As for this turning into a flame fest I somewhat expected it, but its def. not that bad I actually enjoy this kind of debate mainly because its about history and military, which interests me deeply. So its not a big loss I actually just found out today that my two grandfathers were both Marines (my mother said they were something else......odd) and so was my late-great grandfather. Now, maybe I should continue this trend? Keep my family blood line proud? Wow decisions, im a bad decision maker.....one reason why special forces might not be good for me. But, whatever it is Ill know ill suceed because I have the will, and we all know whenever theres a will theres a way. Thanks for the support and help fellows! I really appreciate it
DBB Krazyfoxx DBB Hey. As some of you who know me or have seen my other posts might remember me mentioning how badly I wanted to join the Military or be a Law Enforcement Agent.Well, my dream was cut short because of chronic back problems. Well today I walked into the surgeons for my appointment and for the last few years I have been the things he has handed to me with tons of enthusiam in hope of improving my back in whatever way possible to live my dream. Well today he told me the words that just changed my life. He said that I was cleared and would be able to do what I wanted. Now onto about the U.S. Army Special Forces. Its been a dream of mine to be part of an elite team like this that can go in it out without being noticed, only to leave the enemy lying on the ground wondering what hit them.Well know that im cleared to join and only have one more year until graduation I have been considering hopefully branching into that part of the service. While I still have some back problems(not enough to stop me) I am extremely fit for my age and prolly are one of the top in my school. So physically im there. Mentally im not. And I know that the special forces are all about mentality. I really dont care about people, you live and you learn and get f****d many times over. My motto is if you don't like me b*ow me. Now you might be wondering why im posting this here.......well ive been told my whole life I was a mistake and was not supposed to be born and that Ill never amount to anything, well now that I can prove them wrong I need your guys help. Any information on being part of the Special Forces or being a Ranger would be greatly appreciated. Anyone that is actually a member or was would be even more appreciated and I would love to talk to you one on one! Thanks so much First of all, for what it's worth, I'm sorry to see that you could'nt ask for a little help without getting this shit! I think it's VERY rude when someone takes someone else's thread and turns it into a flamefest, especially when that person has a legitimate request (though I'm not suprised because it seems to happen about every time someone mentions anything about the military). I rememeber you talking about joining and I'm glad to hear that your in good health. Sorry I can't help with special forces info, I spent 4 yrs. in the Marine Corps. as an Infantry Rifleman and it sounds like you're interested in the Army. I know there are some guys here that served in the Army, and maybe once the flames die down they'll give you some info. The best advice I could give you is DON'T EVER let anyone convince you that you're a mistake or that you won't amount to anything (but it sounds like you've got that one covered ) Anyway, I wish you the best in whatever you you decide to do Let us know how it's going. Thanks for the support man I really take it to heart As for this turning into a flame fest I somewhat expected it, but its def. not that bad I actually enjoy this kind of debate mainly because its about history and military, which interests me deeply. So its not a big loss I actually just found out today that my two grandfathers were both Marines (my mother said they were something else......odd) and so was my late-great grandfather. Now, maybe I should continue this trend? Keep my family blood line proud? Wow decisions, im a bad decision maker.....one reason why special forces might not be good for me. But, whatever it is Ill know ill suceed because I have the will, and we all know whenever theres a will theres a way. Thanks for the support and help fellows! I really appreciate it No Problem, my philosophy, Follow your dream
Yah I agree Griever, but some people seem to not believe in my dream.......oh well they can follow my slogan I had in my first post
DBB Yah I agree Griever, but some people seem to not believe in my dream.......oh well they can follow my slogan I had in my first post Go with your dreams. If you don't try you will always be haunted with the, "What Ifs". My dad was a Navy man from 1939 to 1972. Served in WWII, Korea and Vietnam. I also had a military legacy to uphold. So Go for it soldier!
All right I will end this discussion. My apologies DDB. I just enjoy discussing these topics way to much I can't pass by a chance. As I said before good luck to you. And The One a nice discussion at that. I won't bother to email you my veiws but I bet we will find each other on opposite sides again.
eggmac K9Trooper And egg what did the Germans do? They almost erased and entire race. That is something to be proud of eh? No. That's exactly my point, you can't be porud of a country that's responsible for so much bloodshed. What 'Commando' says makes much sense, btw. What 'The One' says is one of the greates crap I've ever read, tbh. I never looked at it that was I guess we all have diffrence of opinons huh :huh: . -Sk8rRIMuk
Kid, I was on a carrier for 6 years, and worked around, and with SEALS quite a bit. i even tried unsuccesfully (my command was blocking our applications) to become one myself. If you want Spec Ops, CLEARLY define that to the recruiter, and MAKE SURE you get it on paper that you have orders to training there. I made the mistake of not defining what exactly I wanted, and ended up stuck on a carrier that wouldn't let me cross over to Spec Ops without re-enlisting. "Needs of the Navy" is the excuse they always gave, which was partailly valid, seeing as I was on the Roosevelt during/after the gulf war, Bosnia, Kosovo timeframe. We were the most frequently deployed vessel in the Navy at the time. Be careful.
Hmmm... You want to be amongst the best special forces in the world, go for the Navy SEALs. For some good pre-training, rent SOCOM US Navy Seals.
Commando no. 448 All right I will end this discussion. My apologies DDB. I just enjoy discussing these topics way to much I can't pass by a chance. As I said before good luck to you. And The One a nice discussion at that. I won't bother to email you my veiws but I bet we will find each other on opposite sides again. Amen.
Thanks for all of your help guys....thanks so much
Yeah, no problem.
wow.... that was one of the longest most carried away and somehow returned topics i've ever seen.... wierd.... o well hey goodluck in ur amrican army stuff.. don't die on us! we need you to defend canada should our army getwhiped along with the other armies of the world.