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GH: WT
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description: I don' think this thread'll go very far but who knows... Does anyone play Guitar Hero: World Tour for the Wii? I'd like to get some Band's codes on there since the matchmaking mode is unreliable and slow.
creator: Altzan
date: 2009-12-30T23:53:50-00:00

Re: GH: WT
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description: I do but I'm not sure what you are asking for tbh.
creator: luv2pb
date: 2009-12-31T07:18:02-00:00

Re: GH: WT
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description: People still play any of the Guitar Heroes after Rock Band came out?
creator: Dover
date: 2009-12-31T21:17:31-00:00

Re: GH: WT
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description: yeah, GH is way better anyways.
creator: nope.avi
date: 2009-12-31T22:33:40-00:00

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description: We're actually considering returning our GH:WT because the danged drums broke. So this thread might get derailed by myself... @luv2pb: You can manage a friends-list on the game to find people to play with over the Nintendo Wifi.
creator: Altzan
date: 2010-01-01T00:20:27-00:00

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description: Dover wrote on Thu, 31 December 2009 16:17 People still play any of the Guitar Heroes after Rock Band came out? Yes because Guitar Hero is much better than Rock Band. They may look the same on the surface but there is a world of in game options available in Guitar Hero that are annoyingly absent in Rock Band 2. I don't have WT for Wii, I only have them for Xbox. I actually did have problems with my drumset when I first got it (someone ripped the 3.5mm wire from the yellow cymbal) and I RMAed it. Anyway, for those that don't understand, Wii asks you for friend codes from other Wii owners when you want to play multiplayer. So he is asking people here to share them so he can play online with them.
creator: R315r4z0r
date: 2010-01-01T17:12:18-00:00

Re: GH: WT
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description: Altzan wrote on Thu, 31 December 2009 18:20 We're actually considering returning our GH:WT because the danged drums broke. So this thread might get derailed by myself... @luv2pb: You can manage a friends-list on the game to find people to play with over the Nintendo Wifi. oh ok, I see what you mean.
creator: luv2pb
date: 2010-01-01T18:26:32-00:00

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description: The only thing I know of that Rock Band has over GH is the construction of the drums. A friend of mine had his Rock Band drums for awhile. Ours barely lasted 2 days. And it's the orange cymbal, a problem a lot of people are reporting. I certainly don't want to return the whole game though, it's great fun. Playing Guitar Battle online was very intense. I just wish the Wii Guitar controllers were a little less expensive.
creator: Altzan
date: 2010-01-01T23:44:54-00:00

Re: GH: WT
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description: I disagree. The Guitar Hero drums are much better than the standard Rock Band drums. Rock Band has the better guitar controller, but I prefer the GH ones because they have the slider bar. The main reason why I prefer the GH instrument controllers is because they are able to play Rock Band games. Rock Band guitars work fine with GH, but you don't have the luxury of the slider. However, the Rock Band drums are only effective in Rock Band because they only have 4 pads (the GH version has 5) It's basically the most logical thing to do; buy the controller that can play both games without problems instead of buying the one that is limited to only one of the games.
creator: R315r4z0r
date: 2010-01-02T06:31:46-00:00

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description: R315r4z0r wrote on Fri, 01 January 2010 22:31 I disagree. The Guitar Hero drums are much better than the standard Rock Band drums. Rock Band has the better guitar controller, but I prefer the GH ones because they have the slider bar. The main reason why I prefer the GH instrument controllers is because they are able to play Rock Band games. Rock Band guitars work fine with GH, but you don't have the luxury of the slider. However, the Rock Band drums are only effective in Rock Band because they only have 4 pads (the GH version has 5) It's basically the most logical thing to do; buy the controller that can play both games without problems instead of buying the one that is limited to only one of the games. Or, you could just buy Rock Band 2 and stick with it, since it's made by Harmonix, the original developers, and thus keeps the feel that made GH 1/2 so good. Also, Harmonix has all the licenses which is how they're able to provide so much DLC instead of having to release a new full-priced game every year.
creator: Dover
date: 2010-01-02T09:18:58-00:00

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description: As someone who has played both games, I can say GH is far superior. With GH5, GH players have a variety of multiplayer options (Guitar battle, free play, etc), while RB players only have one. GH has a much cooler recording studio app. Also GH5 has far better graphics. Most importantly, GH guitar controller is WAY better than the RB controller because of the strum bar. RB strum bar makes it much harder to play fast. Also, the drums are both equally crappy (though I havent tried out the new GH 5 drumset), which is why ppl who enjoy playing the drums make their own drumset.
creator: RadioactiveHell
date: 2010-01-02T17:04:07-00:00

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description: Dover wrote on Sat, 02 January 2010 04:18 R315r4z0r wrote on Fri, 01 January 2010 22:31 I disagree. The Guitar Hero drums are much better than the standard Rock Band drums. Rock Band has the better guitar controller, but I prefer the GH ones because they have the slider bar. The main reason why I prefer the GH instrument controllers is because they are able to play Rock Band games. Rock Band guitars work fine with GH, but you don't have the luxury of the slider. However, the Rock Band drums are only effective in Rock Band because they only have 4 pads (the GH version has 5) It's basically the most logical thing to do; buy the controller that can play both games without problems instead of buying the one that is limited to only one of the games. Or, you could just buy Rock Band 2 and stick with it, since it's made by Harmonix, the original developers, and thus keeps the feel that made GH 1/2 so good. Also, Harmonix has all the licenses which is how they're able to provide so much DLC instead of having to release a new full-priced game every year. I do have Rock Band 2.
creator: R315r4z0r
date: 2010-01-02T17:57:26-00:00

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description: SoQRadio wrote on Sat, 02 January 2010 09:04 ...GH is far superior...multiplayer options...far better graphics. Lol. SoQRadio wrote on Sat, 02 January 2010 09:04 Most importantly, GH guitar controller is WAY better than the RB controller because of the strum bar. RB strum bar makes it much harder to play fast. Are you refering to the RB1 guitars? Those had a few flaws that they fixed in the RB2 guitars. Saying the new GH is better than the old RB is like saying C&C is a better series than WarCraft because C&C 3 is better than WarCraft: Orcs and Humans. R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 02 January 2010 09:57 I do have Rock Band 2. Then you're basically set. You don't need to buy anything but DLC from now on.
creator: Dover
date: 2010-01-04T00:29:47-00:00

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description: Dover wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 19:29 Then you're basically set. You don't need to buy anything but DLC from now on. Set am I? -Does Rock Band allow you to skip songs in the middle of playing in a playlist? Guitar Hero does. -Does Rock Band allow you to change difficulty in the middle of a setlist? Guitar Hero does. -Does Rock Band support tap-slidding, extended sustains, 5 drum pads, duel bass pedals, free-style singing & drumming, and open strumming? Guitar Hero does. -Does Rock Band have a built-in music creator and online community library? Guitar Hero does. -Does Rock Band allow you to choose any instrument you want regardless of what other people chose? Guitar Hero does. -Does Rock Band have a jump-in/drop-out party play mode? Guitar Hero does. -Does Rock Band have song challenges? No, they just have an annoyingly repetitive and tedious campaign. Guitar Hero does have them, however. -Does Rock Band have band moments? Guitar Hero does. -Does Rock Band give you as much customization in terms of character creation and instrument design that Guitar Hero does? Hardly. Basically, other than vocal harmonies, solos, and some specific songs, there isn't anything worth having that Rock Band has that Guitar Hero doesn't have or does better. DLC? Guitar Hero releases downloadable songs every week. They also allow you to license other Guitar Hero game set-lists and port them into other games. They are both the same on the surface appearance, but Guitar Hero is far better when it comes down to what counts.
creator: R315r4z0r
date: 2010-01-04T02:04:51-00:00

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description: R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 18:04 -Does Rock Band allow you to skip songs in the middle of playing in a playlist? Guitar Hero does. Uhh...the idea behind playing a setlist is that you need to play all the songs. That's where the difficulty is. Skipping songs is like skipping levels in any other game. It's pandering to bad players (Which deincentivizes improvement) at best and a cheat feature at worst. Unless you mean free-play mode, in which case why did you put that song in the setlist in the first place? R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 18:04 -Does Rock Band allow you to change difficulty in the middle of a setlist? Guitar Hero does. See above. If you can't do the whole setlist at the required difficulty than you need to either: 1) Play at a lower difficulty, or... 2) Get better. R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 18:04 -Does Rock Band support tap-slidding In songs that call for it, yes. R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 18:04 extended sustains ? R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 18:04 5 drum pads "Rock band has 4 pads! We have 5! WE'RE CLEARLY BETTER BUY OUR PRODUCT!!1!" R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 18:04 duel bass pedals In custom sets, yet people seem to get fine even without them. Is this needed, or is it adding stuff for the sake of adding stuff? R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 18:04 free-style singing & drumming I'm not sure what you mean here. You mean no-fail mode? Or do you mean singing whatever lyrics you want? Rock Band has both. R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 18:04 and open strumming? Best reason to buy the next $50 game they shit out I've ever seen. R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 18:04 -Does Rock Band have a built-in music creator and online community library? Guitar Hero does. No. That's the price of having all the good DLC -- making sure people can't re-create and distribute it for free. R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 18:04 -Does Rock Band allow you to choose any instr…
creator: Dover
date: 2010-01-04T02:45:15-00:00

Re: GH: WT
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description: but will they blend? that is the question.
creator: nope.avi
date: 2010-01-04T03:32:22-00:00

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description: It's annoying using all those quotes. Seriously. Quote: Uhh...the idea behind playing a setlist is that you need to play all the songs. That's where the difficulty is. Skipping songs is like skipping levels in any other game. It's pandering to bad players (Which deincentivizes improvement) at best and a cheat feature at worst. Unless you mean free-play mode, in which case why did you put that song in the setlist in the first place? .... See above. If you can't do the whole setlist at the required difficulty than you need to either: 1) Play at a lower difficulty, or... 2) Get better. First of all, this is a party game. It's meant to be fun in a group. Not for you to be shut up in your basement all day practicing and getting better. Yes I'm talking about free-play. Why would I be complaining that the game's campaign isn't letting me make it easier for myself? I'm talking about when you are with a group of friends and you make a setlist of songs that you enjoy playing. However, three songs in, one person in the 'band' can't find the skill to play correctly and causes everyone to lose. What I would do in that situation would be to skip that song and proceed to the next one, but oh wait, you can't do that in Rock Band. So my next thought would be to have that person lower their difficulty level so everyone else can play the song happily, but oh wait, Rock Band can't do that either. You are then forced to quit the setlist and chose songs all over again. Also, why should you let your ability to play on a certain difficulty level change the idea of if you can play songs you like or not? If you can play every song except for one on Expert, why should that one song hold you back from continuing your setlist? Sure, you should practice it in order to get better, but it's not the game's place to force you to do better or else. Quote: In songs that call for it, yes. No. No it doesn't. Rock Band does not support tap-sliding. Rock Band guitars do not have touch pads like Guitar Her…
creator: R315r4z0r
date: 2010-01-04T03:45:24-00:00

Re: GH: WT
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description: This is what an extended sustain looks like, by the way:
creator: R315r4z0r
date: 2010-01-04T03:59:07-00:00

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description: R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 19:45 First of all, this is a party game. It's meant to be fun in a group. Not for you to be shut up in your basement all day practicing and getting better. I guess anyone who has the physical dexterity required to play a rhythm game would HAVE to be some kind of basement dweller. Oh, wait... R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 19:45 Yes I'm talking about free-play. Why would I be complaining that the game's campaign isn't letting me make it easier for myself? I'm talking about when you are with a group of friends and you make a setlist of songs that you enjoy playing. However, three songs in, one person in the 'band' can't find the skill to play correctly and causes everyone to lose. What I would do in that situation would be to skip that song and proceed to the next one, but oh wait, you can't do that in Rock Band. So my next thought would be to have that person lower their difficulty level so everyone else can play the song happily, but oh wait, Rock Band can't do that either. You are then forced to quit the setlist and chose songs all over again. So basically, it's Rock Band's fault that your friend keeps failing and doesn't facilitate making the game easier for you. How about not sucking? Or at least, not picking songs you can't play? R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 19:45 Also, why should you let your ability to play on a certain difficulty level change the idea of if you can play songs you like or not? If you can play every song except for one on Expert, why should that one song hold you back from continuing your setlist? Sure, you should practice it in order to get better, but it's not the game's place to force you to do better or else. Because it panders to weak players. Doing that discouraging practice and skillful play and encourages weaseling your way around anything that would coincidently make you improve. R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 19:45 No. No it doesn't. Rock Band does not support tap-s…
creator: Dover
date: 2010-01-04T04:29:39-00:00

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description: :/
creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2010-01-04T04:48:06-00:00

Re: GH: WT
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description: look @ all the spoony quotes about a video game played at parties to encourage social activity, pretty obvious dover might be lacking a few things here
creator: InternetThug
date: 2010-01-04T04:53:22-00:00

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description: I like how they're called "Spoony quotes", instead of just application of the quote feature. I notice the people who most often complain about long posts with lots of quotes are most often those who have the least to contribute to the thread.
creator: Dover
date: 2010-01-04T05:16:00-00:00

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description: Damn it, it's 12:30 and I don't want to spend another hour making a post. So forgive me if this is short. (If I remember, I'll come back tomorrow and add on) Have you ever been to a party before? I mean a real party? Ones where there are more than 4 people playing a video game all night long? Guitar Hero's party mode works in that situation. It's a video game. It's entertainment. It's not a serious commitment if you decide you want to play. And as such, it shouldn't be distressing factor if someone wants to stop playing and get on with their life. Party mode can be played with no players! It will randomly cycle through songs. If you decide you want to play, you just need to pick up a controller and your highway pops up and you're in the action! If you want to stop, then you just stop! You keep on saying things like 'oh it's catering to people with no skill' and 'it leaves you with no reason to want to improve.' Well what is so wrong about that? Oh my god, I want to entertain myself by playing a video game?!? I must be insane to think such thoughts of blasphemy!! If people like a song, they will want to get better at it. It's human nature to want to win and to the best they can. So why should this be forced down our thoughts? We are going to do it anyway, so why not at your own pace? It's more fun and less stressful that way. Forced gameplay should only be there for those who want it, not forced on everyone who wants to play it. Guitar Hero caters to that aspect with its unlock system. If you want to play to win, then play campaign and unlock new customization options and venues. That's the point I was making with mentioning that stuff. It doesn't necessarily matter what it looks like, but it's the act of using your learned skill to win a prize. Moving on... Quote: -Better song catalog, all professionally done and not flooded with cheap immitations made by amateurs on a free tool. Rock Band has it, Guitar Hero doesn't. -Solid Controllers. Rock Band has them, and some…
creator: R315r4z0r
date: 2010-01-04T06:00:23-00:00

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creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2010-01-04T06:10:14-00:00

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description: Dover wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 22:29 So basically, it's Rock Band's fault that your friend keeps failing and doesn't facilitate making the game easier for you. How about not sucking? Or at least, not picking songs you can't play? Failure is going to happen evenually, unless your friends happen o either be rock gods or super-cautious players (former not likely, latter not being very fun to play with). If it's going to happen, having an available feature to help compensate is very helpful. Dover wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 22:29 If you want "the experience" of playing drums, you should play drums, not Rock Band or Guitar Hero. Take a moment every now and then and remember that you are playing a video game. So just because we're playing a game doesn't mean it matters? What about your support of the guitar controller for RB2? Having 3 pads and 2 cymbals simply works better. It's easier to play and feels more natural. Dover wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 22:29 I guess your idea of fun is playing poor imitations of real songs done using some free tool instead of professionally-done songs. I've heard some pretty awesome songs made by people using this tool. And it doesn't replace the music store, it's an addition. So basically you're just saying you don't like using it, even though that doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad or useless feature. Dover wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 22:29 "Annoying! Frustrating! Aggrivating! Why isn't Rock Band facilitating my bathroom habits and dysfunctional friendships better!" Why should it not? Sure it doesn't HAVE to, but when it DOES, it can be very helpful and prevent annoying situations like the ones Razor mentioned earlier. Friends aren't dysfunctional if something like this happens, unless your friends absolutely adore you and will do anything you say. Dover wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 22:29 You might as well be attacking Tug Of War mode, or some other feature nobody uses. PROTIP: Nobody plays Rock Band or Guitar Hero for the …
creator: Altzan
date: 2010-01-04T06:18:47-00:00

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description: R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 22:00 Damn it, it's 12:30 and I don't want to spend another hour making a post. So forgive me if this is short. (If I remember, I'll come back tomorrow and add on) It shouldn't take you that long, but whatever. R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 22:00 Have you ever been to a party before? I mean a real party? Ones where there are more than 4 people playing a video game all night long? If you're doing nothing but playing a video game all night long, I don't think it counts as a party. R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 22:00 Guitar Hero's party mode works in that situation. It's a video game. It's entertainment. It's not a serious commitment if you decide you want to play. And as such, it shouldn't be distressing factor if someone wants to stop playing and get on with their life. The console has an on/off switch for those moments. R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 22:00 Party mode can be played with no players! It will randomly cycle through songs. If you decide you want to play, you just need to pick up a controller and your highway pops up and you're in the action! If you want to stop, then you just stop! So the game plays itself? More evidence to how it panders to bad players. They don't even need to be playing. R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 22:00 You keep on saying things like 'oh it's catering to people with no skill' and 'it leaves you with no reason to want to improve.' Well what is so wrong about that? Oh my god, I want to entertain myself by playing a video game?!? I must be insane to think such thoughts of blasphemy!! And you don't find it entertaining to challenge yourself? To get better? To improve? Why do you think StarCraft is so popular (And so fun!)? Is it because of it caters to bad players? Is it because of a low skill cealing? R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 22:00 If people like a song, they will want to get better at it. It's human nature to want to win and to the best they …
creator: Dover
date: 2010-01-04T08:14:35-00:00

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description: Dover wrote on Mon, 04 January 2010 02:14 Once you've been forced to adapt, sure. Mac users feel most at home when using mac computers, but that doesn't make them superior computers. PC's and Macs aren't trying to mimic something else. The GH drum set mimics real drums better and also play better with that layout (but not purely because they mimic real drums better). Dover wrote on Mon, 04 January 2010 02:14 I can tell by your interpretation of what I wrote that you might be one such dysfunctional friend. What kind of friendship are you in if you and your friend can't agree on a song together? A normal one? Friends can disagree on preferences. If I misinterpreted what you meant to say, my aplogies. Dover wrote on Mon, 04 January 2010 02:14 You use the campaign to get better, as opposed to say, Practice Mode? Or Free Play? I find that using practice mode makes me worse. I work best when just trying out the full song as opposed to slower speeds or specific snippets. I use free play too, but the campaign does a good job of ordering the songs by difficulty, which is why I use it to train.
creator: Altzan
date: 2010-01-04T08:34:43-00:00

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description: Altzan wrote on Mon, 04 January 2010 00:34 PC's and Macs aren't trying to mimic something else. The GH drum set mimics real drums better and also play better with that layout (but not purely because they mimic real drums better). I remain unconvinced. Then again, I don't play the drums that much in Rock Band, so whatever. Altzan wrote on Mon, 04 January 2010 00:34 A normal one? Friends can disagree on preferences. If I misinterpreted what you meant to say, my aplogies. Disagree, but disagree civilly, and arrive at some kind of agreeable conclusion. This isn't such a big problem that you need the game to pick songs for you. Come to think of it, you can already pick random songs in Rock Band, except nobody does that because that's stupid. Altzan wrote on Mon, 04 January 2010 00:34 I find that using practice mode makes me worse. I work best when just trying out the full song as opposed to slower speeds or specific snippets. I use free play too, but the campaign does a good job of ordering the songs by difficulty, which is why I use it to train. Hmmm. I found practice mode was actually a big help to slow the songs down at first, like when I first tried Panic Attack on Hard. To each his own, I suppose.
creator: Dover
date: 2010-01-04T11:25:23-00:00

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description: just go buy a real fucking drum kit and guitar and stop playing in front of a screen
creator: Boofst0rm
date: 2010-01-04T12:20:34-00:00

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description: Quote: It shouldn't take you that long, but whatever. It does when you insist on making spoony quotes. Quote: If you're doing nothing but playing a video game all night long, I don't think it counts as a party. You misinterpreted what I said. It's to the contrary of your understanding, actually. I said a real party is one that does not simply incorporate 4 people staying up all night playing video games. Even in a small basic party with about a dozen people. Party mode is a good party game. It's not about being the life of the party as people obviously have other things they can be doing. And it's not meant to be some 'planned party event' as if it was some kids birthday bash. Quote: The console has an on/off switch for those moments. When I made the example saying if you decided to want to play, you could do that just by picking up a controller and you could stop just as easy, I never said anything about the other people playing. I just mentioned one person in particular (me, you, whoever.) The idea behind it is that you can drop in while other people are playing a song without interrupting their game, the music, and forcing everyone to quit the song, go to the lobby, add another band member, re-choose songs, and then start playing them again. (However, the option to save and load pre-set play lists might come in handy in that situation) Quote: So the game plays itself? More evidence to how it panders to bad players. They don't even need to be playing. No, that isn't what I meant. If no players are playing it, it will act as a virtual concert or jukebox. It will just show the background scene of the band playing the music and have the music play. It isn't "playing itself" it's just in a standby mode waiting for players to play with the touch of a button. Now, after reading that, you're probably thinking "If no one wanted to play it, why is it on in the first place?" Basically, that's the beauty of it. They realized that although the game is meant for entertainment …
creator: R315r4z0r
date: 2010-01-04T23:45:53-00:00