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I know that me and simpee don't along that well, but Spoony you suspending him over an out of game issue, is really dumb. It's not like he abused glitches or point pushed. I mean on the forums I think everyone has the right to express their opinion. Clanwars.cc is for playing renegade, and that's why he was there, to play renegade. Here's a place where fellow renegaders can chat and express their opinions on certain issues. You suspended him from playing clanwars for expressing his opinions on a online forum. I think if you were to suspend him, he should of done something wrong that had something to with clanwars.. Sorry Spoony but this really makes no sense, and makes you look like a angry douche. If you're an admin you have to know that you are the peoples leader, you can't get mad and suspend them if they make you mad on a forum.
hurf hurf durf derpa durr we're gonna keep pressuring spoony and do retarded things to piss him off OH NO HE SUSPENDED US FROM SOMETHING HE OWNS QUICKLY LET'S COMPLAIN ABOUT IT
I know you're Spoonys friend, but does it really make sense to you?
resistor1 wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 11:24 I know you're Spoonys friend, but does it really make sense to you? Yes, considering his history with Spoony, I totally understand it. also I'm not Spoony's friend, I just defend logical choices and people who aren't fucking retarded.
I can see like how they fight on the forums, but I think that Clanwars stuff should be kept with clanwars. Simpee doesn't agree with Spoony, so he goes and suspends him from the league..? Keep the beef on renegade forums, Some people will be assholes, but when they are playing renegade they play because it's fun. He didn't do anything wrong in clanwars.. Tbh I really didn't think Spoony would do something like this..
I can see like how he plays alone, but I think that cheating should be kept with single player. Loki can't win in clanwars, so he goes and takes them to multiplayer..? Keep the hax on campaigns, Some people will be assholes, but when they are playing renegade they at least don't use rgh. He didn't do anything fair playing in clanwars.. Tbh I really didn't think Loki would do something like this..
The NFL suspends players for breaking laws outside of American Football games. It's Spoony's league. If Spoony doesn't like the image you are giving his league, he has every right to suspend you from it.
SPIKDUM wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 12:36 I can see like how he plays alone, but I think that cheating should be kept with single player. Loki can't win in clanwars, so he goes and takes them to multiplayer..? Keep the hax on campaigns, Some people will be assholes, but when they are playing renegade they at least don't use rgh. He didn't do anything fair playing in clanwars.. Tbh I really didn't think Loki would do something like this.. If you're going to go off-topic and turn my thread into a flamewar, stay the fuck out prick.
resistor1 wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 11:31 I can see like how they fight on the forums, but I think that Clanwars stuff should be kept with clanwars. Simpee doesn't agree with Spoony, so he goes and suspends him from the league..? Keep the beef on renegade forums, Some people will be assholes, but when they are playing renegade they play because it's fun. He didn't do anything wrong in clanwars.. Tbh I really didn't think Spoony would do something like this.. because simpee hasn't done anything wrong, right? idiot
resistor1 wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 11:39 SPIKDUM wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 12:36 I can see like how he plays alone, but I think that cheating should be kept with single player. Loki can't win in clanwars, so he goes and takes them to multiplayer..? Keep the hax on campaigns, Some people will be assholes, but when they are playing renegade they at least don't use rgh. He didn't do anything fair playing in clanwars.. Tbh I really didn't think Loki would do something like this.. If you're going to go off-topic and turn my thread into a flamewar, stay the fuck out prick. I was actually making a point with that.
i'll ask loki the same question i've asked simpee, and his cronies at clanwars, and myself. so far nobody has come up with an answer. i've done nothing wrong to simpee, ever. indeed i've done him nothing but favours - nobody else could be bothered hosting a clanwar league for him. he behaves absolutely appallingly towards me in return. endlessly attacking, endlessly lying to the community to try to make me look bad, tried sabotaging my ladder projects twice, broke many rules to try to get an advantage, enormous number of AR's (unreported clanwars), let convicted cheaters sneak into his clan then endlessly flames me when he gets caught, etc etc etc etc etc.... ...so here's the question. when person A behaves so appallingly as that towards person B who's never done them wrong, why should person B carry on doing person A any favours?
Spoony, based on your reasoning, why didn't you have him banned right when the league started? You said in the beginning, when someone brought it up, that you'd let clear and simpee play in your league if they could play fair...and they've been playing fair for 2 months now. Why change your mind all of a sudden?
Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 12:07 Spoony, based on your reasoning, why didn't you have him banned right when the league started? You said in the beginning, when someone brought it up, that you'd let clear and simpee play in your league if they could play fair...and they've been playing fair for 2 months now. Why change your mind all of a sudden? what do you mean change my mind? this is completely consistent with what i said. i said if they can just play the game instead of the DESPICABLE behaviour they were showing at the time, we wouldn't have any problems. they couldn't even manage that. this is not changing my mind. this is sticking to my original assertion that they are not capable of behaving with the bare minimum of honesty and decency i expect. answer this question. even after the ban, i've made the same offer i made before it. they only need to do two things. 1. apologise for their UNBELIEVABLE behaviour. 2. behave decently and honestly from then on. they can't even do that. so, -a- am i asking too much there? or -b- are you beginning to see them for what they are?
What "DESPICABLE" behavior did they shown recently that made you decide to ban them NOW?
sigh come back when you've read the thread explaining the ban. with simpee, the word "continuous" springs to mind.
............................... I did..clearly im not bright enough to understand it; please explain it to me here, more clearly. you have no problem typing longer posts, so this shouldn't be a bother for you.
I really have no clue how Spoony has the patience for these guys. It's mind blowing.
resistor1 wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 11:31 but I think that Clanwars stuff should be kept with clanwars. I completely agree and so with that being said, let's lock this thread.
Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 12:26 ............................... I did..clearly im not bright enough to understand it; please explain it to me here, more clearly. you have no problem typing longer posts, so this shouldn't be a bother for you. i've got a question for YOU instead. you remember when simpee and clearshot did the UNBELIEVABLY pathetic thing they did on the jelly forum? of course you do. you knew every word they said was a lie, you knew i was telling the truth, but you didn't say so and it would have been lovely if you did. well, when i stuck up for myself, you criticised ME for doing so. apparently if i was mean to them for what they did, they'd leave the league. let me tell you - i have often considered abandoning the league because of episodes like this and the community's reaction to them. i have often thought that the clanwars community is simply not worth my time. Quote: oh, another thing ought to be explained. it took a bit of persuasion to get me to come back to clanwars and revive the community in the first place, plus i've thought a few times that i may have been wasting my time. case in point: what simpee and clearshot did on the jelly forum, and the community's reaction to it. (i.e. two idiots telling a huge list of lies about an honest, fair player because they wanted to sabotage my ladder project unless i used their point mod. nobody said anything bad about what they did, but not only that, the community flamed me because i actually stuck up for myself and smacked them down). episodes like that occasionally make me think the community isn't worth my time running this league. (an extremely similar situation, namely soul and the photoshopped ss's, was why i quit several years ago) anyway i'm resisting the urge to just **** off and leave the league dead again. instead i'm just going to remove the bad apples, starting with simpee. much better solution all round. those players who are honest, sportsmanlike and play by the rules have absolutely nothing to worry about, and never did. the league will favour those types of players, even if the community doesn't. anyway, at this point it would seem appropriate if you took my side against simpee and clearshot. after all, much more of their bullshit and i'd probably just leave. and since i'm a much fairer and more honest player than either of them, not to mention the admin, what a terrible thing that would be for the league. so why didn't you? and why don't you now?
andr3w282 wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 12:28 I really have no clue how Spoony has the patience for these guys. It's mind blowing. Best post in this thread.
i liked it. simpee's list of offences against me is absolutely astonishing; the wonder is that my patience with him has lasted so long.
Please don't bring up that thread again, all I want to know is what have they done recently to warrant a ban. If you can't tell me, then it's obvious you woke up this morning and decided you want to ban them for incidents 6 months ago. I'll answer your question when you answer mine.
Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 12:51 Please don't bring up that thread again, all I want to know is what have they done recently to warrant a ban. If you can't tell me, then it's obvious you woke up this morning and decided you want to ban them for incidents 6 months ago. I'll answer your question when you answer mine. I dunno, waking up one day and deciding to ban a prick you should have done a long time ago seems perfectly fine with me.
Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 12:51 Please don't bring up that thread again it's pretty damning, is it? And not just to those two, but to you as well. If you didn't defend the fair, honest player back then, it's IMPOSSIBLE to take your concerns seriously now. Quote: all I want to know is what have they done recently to warrant a ban. If you can't tell me, then it's obvious you woke up this morning and decided you want to ban them for incidents 6 months ago. read the thread again, it's a pretty comprehensive list. simpee carries on attacking me endlessly, ENDLESSLY lying to the community to try to make me look bad, STILL flaming me for catching him letting convicted cheaters back into his clan years ago (and making new lies to try to absolve it) and yet i gave him warning after warning after warning after warning after warning, all of which he ignored and carried on lying to attack me instead. now answer my question: why didn't you stick up for the fair, honest player who was under attack, realising what a terrible thing it would be for the league if i just said fuck it and left? as i strongly considered doing many, many times, and am considering doing now? so far it's looking as if you don't value "fair players" anywhere near as much as you pretend to. you're not the first person i've pressed on this point and you're not the first person who's been completely stumped by it.
Saying simpee and clear aren't fair players is a joke. Not saying you're not Spoony, because you clearly are, but so are they. And so am I. so don't go off saying I don't know anything about fair play, or recognizing fair players. so, you banned him for your league for not being mean to you, glad that's cleared up. Not saying he wasn't insulting you, but you guys always go back and forth so i feel like you're both at fault for that. It just so happens you have the power to ban him. Alright; i personally don't agree with, and most people will not agree with it, but it's your league. anyway, I didn't 'defend' simpee and clear in the forum, I kind of attacked you, because all you did was bring up the same thing over and over and over again, well after they had finished posting. Most people don't want the point fix, and you continued to bring it up, and it got annoying. So sorry if I hurt your feelings there. It got old. Happy? At least you don't have to leave the league to die by itself now, you've killed it yourself.
Seems to me it's like banning someone from your server if he cheated on another server.
Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 13:16 Saying simpee and clear aren't fair players is a joke. Not saying you're not Spoony, because you clearly are, but so are they. And so am I. so don't go off saying I don't know anything about fair play, or recognizing fair players. after this post of yours i'm saying you don't know anything about decent, honest, respectful behaviour. Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 13:16 so, you banned him for your league for not being mean to you, glad that's cleared up. you only need to read the ban thread for a very detailed and careful explanation of what they've done wrong. Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 13:16 Not saying he wasn't insulting you, but you guys always go back and forth so i feel like you're both at fault for that. then i feel you're a fucking IDIOT. yes, i do. simpee and clearshot's behaviour to me has been ABSOLUTELY DESPICABLE. i did nothing wrong to them before, and i've done nothing wrong to them since. sticking up for myself, pointing out they were lying, is not doing anything wrong. for you to equate me with them is an absolute disgrace and you owe me an apology. you may as well say "loki may be a cheater, but you keep calling him a cheater so you're at fault too", it would be equally absurd and embarrassing to read. Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 13:16 It just so happens you have the power to ban him. Alright; i personally don't agree with, and most people will not agree with it, but it's your league. indeed. it'd be nice if anyone other than me gave enough of a shit to host a league for scum like simpee and clearshot. but they don't. i'm the only person who does them that favour, and look how they repay me. Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 13:16 anyway, I didn't 'defend' simpee and clear in the forum, I kind of attacked you, because all you did was bring up the same thing over and over and over again, well after they had finished posting. Most people don't want the point fix, and you continued to bring it up, and it got annoying. So sorry if I hurt your feelings there. It got old. Happy? right. so i deserved the UNBELIEVABLY DESPICABLE behaviour from clearshot and simpee, because... what was i talking about? oh yeah, running another ladder on top of the one at clanwars, posting new ideas. listen to what you are saying. this is a low point for you, mike. you're usually a pretty level-headed guy, but some of the stuff you're saying now is beyond ridiculous and downright disgraceful. at least my earlier theory was correct; you don't really care about fair, honest players getting a rough deal anywhere near as much as you pretend you do.
Spoony I could honestly go on and argue with you for an hour or two longer, but I don't have the time or patience. So you can go ahead and chalk this up as a victory for you on another renegade-argument, but really, you just killed the league because you can't take a few insulting comments from simpee and clear. If you know they're lying and such just ignore them knowing you're right.
Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 13:38 Spoony I could honestly go on and argue with you for an hour or two longer, but I don't have the time or patience. or the wit. Quote: So you can go ahead and chalk this up as a victory for you on another renegade-argument another one bites the dust. we saw your true colours, unless that last post of yours was just a moment of madness. and i really hope it was, mike, because you ought to be ashamed of what you just said. Quote: but really, you just killed the league because you can't take a few insulting comments from simpee and clear. this might be another good time to point back to the original ban thread, which made a very long and careful case against them.
Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 20:38 Spoony I could honestly go on and argue with you for an hour or two longer, but I don't have the time or patience. So you can go ahead and chalk this up as a victory for you on another renegade-argument, but really, you just killed the league because you can't take a few insulting comments from simpee and clear. If you know they're lying and such just ignore them knowing you're right. Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 20:38 you just killed the league because you can't take a few insulting comments from simpee and clear. If you know they're lying and such just ignore them knowing you're right. Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 20:38 you can't take a few insulting comments from simpee and clear. Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 20:38 you can't take a few insulting comments Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 20:38 a few insulting comments Alfonzo wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 20:38 a few lol.
He's someone commenting on clanwars, even though he's: a. never played there b. never posted there c. never played against either of the 2 people being discussed. His only knowledge of the situation is from the points fix topics on here.
even someone as dim and witless as me can tell his imput has zero to negative importance here!
i was just about to say that it's far preferable discussing clanwars matters here rather than at clanwars... more people here actually stick up for the real honest players, instead of just pretending they do like a lot of people at clanwars are doing right now. next time some piece of shit like simpee or clear does what they did on jelly forum, i don't expect anybody at clanwars to have my back no matter what i've done for them. it's nice to see some more encouraging posts from people here.
see, i understand everything now. spoony is spiritually linked to the pointfix, so everytime we said that pointfix sucks, spoony saw it as us saying that he sucks. its the only explanation of why hes so bitter and is bringing up shit that happened 6 years ago in his ban reasons.
Point i was making, if the people who commented looked at what matters, ie actually playing the game, instead of sitting on the forums 24/7, and played the 2 guys some time over the last 2 months, they wouldn't have a single thing to moan about. Probably 400 clan games have passed without incident the past 2 months with these players involved, but nobody is mentioning that, you're focusing everything on posts on a forum as your justification to ban them. The thing that should matter, playing the game fair and by the rules is neither here not there to you, and that isn't being put across anywhere in your arguments. They've done that perfectly in the last 2 league months.
ELiT3FLyR wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 14:08 see, i understand everything now. spoony is spiritually linked to the pointfix, so everytime we said that pointfix sucks, spoony saw it as us saying that he sucks. its the only explanation of why hes so bitter and is bringing up shit that happened 6 years ago in his ban reasons. no, i bring up your old offences as well as the new ones to point out that you simply can't stop yourself fucking up. although sometimes it's you who brings up your own offences in a sad attempt to flame me. for example: you keep trying to flame me because when you let a convicted cheater sneak back into your clan 3/4 years ago, i caught you and suspended you. you even make up new lies to absolve yourself on that one. this is the kind of stupidity that would be remarkable for most people but in your case is just another day. good luck on tempozia's server against loki, it's where you belong.
and spoony blaming us for jelly forums is like saying america had no reason to bomb the shit out of japan in ww2. u start all the underhand bullshit and expect us not to finish it?
Jellybe4n wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 20:09 Point i was making, if the people who commented looked at what matters, ie actually playing the game, instead of sitting on the forums 24/7, and played the 2 guys some time over the last 2 months, they wouldn't have a single thing to moan about. The thing that should matter, playing the game fair and by the rules is neither here not there to you, and that isn't being put across anywhere in your arguments. They've done that perfectly in the last 2 league months. and we're back to "but they haven't done anything wrong to me!" Quote: Probably 400 clan games have passed without incident the past 2 months with these players involved, but nobody is mentioning that, you're focusing everything on posts on a forum as your justification to ban them. When simpee and clear did what they did on your forum, where were you to offer this defence on my behalf? I'm probably not going to get tired of asking people this every time they defend simpee and clearshot in the belief that they're "fair players". It's quite a stumper, isn't it?
ELiT3FLyR wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 14:13 and spoony blaming us for jelly forums is like saying america had no reason to bomb the shit out of japan in ww2. u start all the underhand bullshit and expect us not to finish it? I DID NOTHING WRONG TO YOU. I HAVE NEVER DONE ANYTHING WRONG TO YOU. I HAVE DONE YOU NOTHING BUT FAVOURS. I HOSTED YOU A CLAN LADDER FOR YEARS, IN SPITE OF THE PATHETIC WAY YOU ACT TOWARDS ME. seriously, if you can't understand that then you really, REALLY have mental problems.
Spoony wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 15:18 Jellybe4n wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 20:09 Point i was making, if the people who commented looked at what matters, ie actually playing the game, instead of sitting on the forums 24/7, and played the 2 guys some time over the last 2 months, they wouldn't have a single thing to moan about. The thing that should matter, playing the game fair and by the rules is neither here not there to you, and that isn't being put across anywhere in your arguments. They've done that perfectly in the last 2 league months. and we're back to "but they haven't done anything wrong to me!" Quote: Probably 400 clan games have passed without incident the past 2 months with these players involved, but nobody is mentioning that, you're focusing everything on posts on a forum as your justification to ban them. When simpee and clear did what they did on your forum, where were you to offer this defence on my behalf? I'm probably not going to get tired of asking people this every time they defend simpee and clearshot in the belief that they're "fair players". It's quite a stumper, isn't it? I don't agree with it, plain and simple. You've let shit bother you that I wouldn't. Maybe I have a thicker skin than you, but I don't ban people for arguing with me on a forum. So lets make it clear, I hear your reasons, I don't agree with them. I think players should be judged on what they do in-game, and the past 2 months they have been 100% fair and played by the rules. Nobody is hearing this side of the arguement, all we're getting is your side. So lets not have any misunderstandings as to my argument anymore please. My mindset is you need to shrug shit off and not let people bother you. Ignore them if they get to you that much. There's so many people I can't stand, I just don't bother with them, so simple. I don't let shit bother me, I've had allsorts thrown at me on these forums. Think I ban people from our servers for it? Answer is pretty short - No
Jellybe4n wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 22:25 I don't agree with it, plain and simple. You've let shit bother you that I wouldn't. Maybe I have a thicker skin than you, but I don't ban people for arguing with me on a forum. nor do i. is nunega banned? karmai? geld? bosnian? my ban thread made a very long case against simpee, and it's depressing how many people have tried to reduct it into "all they did was argue with you". that really does belie a vast ignorance. Quote: I think players should be judged on what they do in-game, and the past 2 months they have been 100% fair and played by the rules. and this is nothing more than "they haven't done anything to me spoony" Quote: My mindset is you need to shrug shit off and not let people bother you. Ignore them if they get to you that much. There's so many people I can't stand, I just don't bother with them, so simple. I don't let shit bother me, I've had allsorts thrown at me on these forums. Think I ban people from our servers for it? Answer is pretty short - No i think you might in my position.
Why the hell is this being discussed here. This is Spoony's business, and after that it's cw.cc business.
Spoony wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 15:30 Jellybe4n wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 22:25 I don't agree with it, plain and simple. You've let shit bother you that I wouldn't. Maybe I have a thicker skin than you, but I don't ban people for arguing with me on a forum. nor do i. is nunega banned? karmai? geld? bosnian? my ban thread made a very long case against simpee, and it's depressing how many people have tried to reduct it into "all they did was argue with you". that really does belie a vast ignorance. Quote: I think players should be judged on what they do in-game, and the past 2 months they have been 100% fair and played by the rules. and this is nothing more than "they haven't done anything to me spoony" Quote: My mindset is you need to shrug shit off and not let people bother you. Ignore them if they get to you that much. There's so many people I can't stand, I just don't bother with them, so simple. I don't let shit bother me, I've had allsorts thrown at me on these forums. Think I ban people from our servers for it? Answer is pretty short - No i think you might in my position. The whole they haven't done anything to me thing is quite wrong. Like I said, I wouldn't have banned someone from my servers for argument I had with someone on here. No matter who was right or wrong. I wouldn't ban someone who played fair and played a hell of a lot of games in the busiest month cw's has had in god knows how long. I didn't see any warnings to simpee and clear when you thanked everyone on the cw's forum for a very successful November, the most active in a long time, a month were they were very active, and played the game extremely fair. Like I say, I give more merit to what people do in-game than what they write on a forum that's nothing to do with were they are playing. That's were we differ immensely So we won't agree, we have a different mindset. To avoid going round in circles, I'll leave it here as my point is across, whether you agree with it or accept I can't change. I've seen your reasons, I don't agree with them, I said why. You're content with your actions, I can't change that.
Jellybe4n wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 14:57 The whole they haven't done anything to me thing is quite wrong. Like I said, I wouldn't have banned someone from my servers for argument I had with someone on here. No matter who was right or wrong. glad to hear it, what's that got to do with simpee? Quote: I wouldn't ban someone who played fair and played a hell of a lot of games in the busiest month cw's has had in god knows how long. no matter what they did, eh? this is the same non-logic that led everyone to say we shouldn't have banned soul. what he actually did was completely irrelevant to these people... all they said was: he plays a lot. secondly, we come back to why nobody stuck up for me when i was under attack on the jelly forum. i didn't see anybody saying "but spoony plays a lot" then. of course, i wouldn't consider that to be much of a defence, i'd prefer if someone had the balls to say "but, simpee and clearshot, everything you're saying against spoony is an obvious lie... why are you making dozens and dozens of posts telling these lies to attack spoony when he's never done anything wrong to you?" Quote: I didn't see any warnings to simpee and clear when you thanked everyone on the cw's forum for a very successful November indeed not. all of simpee's warnings were here.
Spoonys anger built up so much he decided to kill the league by himself!
Spoony wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 16:07 Jellybe4n wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 14:57 The whole they haven't done anything to me thing is quite wrong. Like I said, I wouldn't have banned someone from my servers for argument I had with someone on here. No matter who was right or wrong. glad to hear it, what's that got to do with simpee and clearshot? Quote: I wouldn't ban someone who played fair and played a hell of a lot of games in the busiest month cw's has had in god knows how long. no matter what they did, eh? this is the same non-logic that led everyone to say we shouldn't have banned soul. what he actually did was completely irrelevant to these people... all they said was: he plays a lot. secondly, we come back to why nobody stuck up for me when i was under attack on the jelly forum. i didn't see anybody saying "but spoony plays a lot" then. of course, i wouldn't consider that to be much of a defence, i'd prefer if someone had the balls to say "but, simpee and clearshot, everything you're saying against spoony is an obvious lie... why are making dozens and dozens of posts telling these lies to try to make spoony look bad when he's never done anything wrong to you?" Quote: I didn't see any warnings to simpee and clear when you thanked everyone on the cw's forum for a very successful November indeed not. all of simpee's warnings were here. Pointless for me to go on now. We're going in circles, and as usual this is where I step out. Take that as me not being able to answer you, or whatever you wish. I just know when I've reached a point where it's going nowhere.
it certainly is going nowhere. you keep saying things like "simpee's only banned for arguing with you", which only goes to show you either haven't read the ban announcement or haven't understood it. let me illustrate it *jelly bans someone from jelly-server for racism* spoony: he didn't base to base jelly: i didn't say he did, he said some racist stuff spoony: he didn't base to base and he's played 400 games this month jelly: i don't care how many games he's played, he shouldn't be racist spoony: but he didn't base to base and he's played a lot of games this month jelly: hello? is this plugged in...?
Spoony wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 16:18 it certainly is going nowhere. you keep saying things like "simpee's only banned for arguing with you", which only goes to show you either haven't read the ban announcement or haven't understood it. let me illustrate it *jelly bans someone from jelly-server for racism* spoony: he didn't base to base jelly: i didn't say he did, he said some racist stuff spoony: he didn't base to base and he's played 400 games this month jelly: i don't care how many games he's played, he shouldn't be racist spoony: but he didn't base to base and he's played a lot of games this month jelly: hello? is this plugged in...? Poor analogy. If he's ingame, and breaks a server rule he'd get kicked for breaking a server rule, ie the guy is ingame. If he said it on our forum, he'd get muted on the forum. If he said it here, I'd do nothing. Key here is, he is actually in the server. No idea what you were trying to prove with this.
question. i'd like mike to answer this too. hypothetical: let's say that after what simpee and clear did, i just decided to say fuck the clanwars community and leave the league dead (i have seriously considered doing just that, quite a few times). would you be bitching at them right now for killing the league? another question. you've seen me make my repeated offer to both simpee and clearshot. i haven't asked much. 1: an sincere apology for everything they've done. 2: honest and decent behaviour from then on. you've seen them reject the offer; if you read clanwars you've seen clearshot carry on lying to the community making it even worse for himself. now, if these are really active players the league needs... then don't you have anything bad to say about them for turning the offer down? all they have to do is something they should be doing in the first place. given the choice of behaving honestly and respectfully for the first time ever, they'd rather carry on lying to everybody and attacking me, just to achieve... uh what, exactly? anyone who pretends they care about the league's activity ought to be telling them to just suck up their feeble pride. take a look at them. they could play again quite simply; all they've got to do is stop lying to everybody. their response: carry on, in the knowledge that i won't unban him. i'm the one killing the league, am i?
Don't fret it, Spoony. Just have more of an iron fist with these retards and they'll stop being assholes, I'm sure.
I really can't be bothered with your hypothesis, nobody apologises on the internet, I'd never ask nor expect anyone to apologise. This has gone as far is it will go, silly analogies and trying to get me to hypothesize about things show that. Like I say, we both made our points, we don't agree. Lets agree to leave it at that.
GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 16:43 Don't fret it, Spoony. Just have more of an iron fist with these retards and they'll stop being assholes, I'm sure. Sorry, do you know me?
Jellybe4n wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 15:44 I really can't be bothered with your hypothesis it was very nearly an actual. people are outraged at the thought of simpee and clear leaving because, after the unbelievable way they acted, i smacked them down for it. the thought of me leaving because of being on the other end? nobody gives a shit. am i getting this point across? it's extremely difficult to take people like mike seriously, people who pretend they care about "skilled, active players" leaving, people who pretend they care about the league's activity. when you show them a MUCH BETTER example of someone they ought to be sticking up for and someone else they ought to be criticising, they're either nowhere to be seen or criticising the victim.
Jellybe4n wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 15:45 GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 16:43 Don't fret it, Spoony. Just have more of an iron fist with these retards and they'll stop being assholes, I'm sure. Sorry, do you know me? If I spent several years knowing you and still came to the same conclusion, would it make a difference? To me, it'd actually be rather bad to come to the conclusion that you're right solely because I DO know you (hypothetically speaking, that is). A good argument that does not make. Instead, I'm supporting Spoony, who I know just as much as you. Not based on simple minded things such as "well I've known him for awhile", but rather I support him due to the fact that I legitimately believe he's not in the wrong. Hell, go ahead and browse the history on these forums- I've had a few debates/arguments with Spoony about random shit, so that hardly means I'm suddenly his greatest friend as I'm sure you'll claim (which I find funny people would resort to a stupid claim like that, considering you're just as happy to imply I should get to know you better). TL;DR: I don't have to know you to tell you that you're fucking wrong. by the way, that original comment wasn't exactly directed at you- more or less directed at simpee and the like, but hey.
You guys and your hypothetical questions that have nothing to do with the topic, other than to change the subject to get the target of your back. Never seizes to amaze me.
Good post Hate. Cookies for you.
Just look how many hypothetical questions are answered with another hypothetical question...most of which change the topic entirely.
It's spoony's deal. If he wants to suspend him he is welcome to. After that I really don't see why it is any ones business but his and Simpee (who ever that is).
Spoony wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 21:52 people are outraged at the thought of simpee and clear leaving because, after the unbelievable way they acted, i smacked them down for it. I think most people are just unhappy about you banning the two most active players over personal issues.
Nune wrote on Tue, 29 December 2009 12:31 Spoony wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 21:52 people are outraged at the thought of simpee and clear leaving because, after the unbelievable way they acted, i smacked them down for it. I think most people are just unhappy about you banning the two most active players over personal issues. i was not talking about now. i was talking about a couple of months ago. i was giving them a piece of my mind after what they did on jelly, and people like mike were leaping to their defence. sure their behaviour was absolutely appalling, sure they had been lying to the community right from the beginning and still were (and still are now), but spoony, the point is you should not hurt their feelings by saying so because they may leave the league. so i ask: why was nobody telling THEM that their UNBELIEVABLE bullshit might make me leave the league? (because that was very nearly the case. i very nearly decided that the clanwars community was not worth my time). and this has proven to be a very inconvenient question so far.
Had I known about that shit (I generally don't visit jelly forums or the like), I'd have most likely come to your defense. Sucks to hear. Really though, can you guys not come up with a better reason for him NOT to be banned off of cw.cc other than "well he shouldn't be"..?
He's one of the most active members, and has been for a long time?
really? ask him how many clanwars he played in the year or so when i was away. no spoonys to worry about, and no horrible pointsfix either. so what did he do? play in tempozia's server against loki.
Spoony, since you may have overseen my post on cw.cc, Ill ask again: can you link me to the jelly thread you keep mentioning please? also: who in TC has msn in case i want to lose some cws?
surth? / surth! wrote on Tue, 29 December 2009 14:50 Spoony, since you may have overseen my post on cw.cc, Ill ask again: can you link me to the jelly thread you keep mentioning please? http://jelly-server.com/forums/index.php?/topic/12580-thoughts-on-the-ladder/ the quotes don't work now cos they changed the forum system since then. i also remember a couple of other threads on the same subject after that one got locked Quote: also: who in TC has msn in case i want to lose some cws? ask hitman or mrc for games. also tunaman and jimbo are in tc but are on less often.
so that was the right thread after all. anyway, i'm not gonna bother debating this, because the damage is already done. I doubt either of them will come back even if you changed your position so theres no real point to that. shame because no matter what, they were active players and the league isnt really going that well. what timezone does TC usually play?
surth? / surth! wrote on Tue, 29 December 2009 15:29 anyway, i'm not gonna bother debating this, because the damage is already done. yes, but i've given them plenty of opportunities to make up for it. they'd rather not. Quote: I doubt either of them will come back even if you changed your position so theres no real point to that. you got that a little upside down. all they need to do to get unbanned is -a- apologise for everything they've done and -b- act honestly and decently from then on. not a lot to ask, but they can't even manage that. that is everyone else's cue to finally see them for what they are (at least, you'd think so... but then, you'd think everyone would have been able to see simpee's colours by now. he's certainly shown them often enough) Quote: what timezone does TC usually play? whenever.
Theres Tuna in my Mailbox, how disgusting is that.
Since you keep bringing me up and " Tempozias server".. I am the owner of Lemon-funwars retard.. Fuck you spoony im gonna kill u
resistor1 wrote on Wed, 30 December 2009 09:43 Since you keep bringing me up and " Tempozias server".. I am the owner of Lemon-funwars retard.. Fuck you spoony im gonna kill u Really? Well, that's even worse for simpee then.
resistor1 wrote on Wed, 30 December 2009 09:43 Since you keep bringing me up and " Tempozias server".. I am the owner of Lemon-funwars retard.. Fuck you spoony im gonna kill u you mad?
resistor1 wrote on Wed, 30 December 2009 09:43 Since you keep bringing me up and " Tempozias server".. I am the owner of Lemon-funwars retard.. Fuck you spoony im gonna kill u Rules Of Conduct Harassment/Racism/Flaming: Harassment of other members, racism, or any hate speech in general will not be tolerated. Moderators will be the judge of what is intolerable, and what is not. Also, please refrain from flaming other members. If you really must, keep it inside of the Hot Issues forum. Er..just me or is a death threat generally not tolerated? Even jokingly..
HaTe wrote on Wed, 30 December 2009 18:38 resistor1 wrote on Wed, 30 December 2009 09:43 Since you keep bringing me up and " Tempozias server".. I am the owner of Lemon-funwars retard.. Fuck you spoony im gonna kill u Rules Of Conduct Harassment/Racism/Flaming: Harassment of other members, racism, or any hate speech in general will not be tolerated. Moderators will be the judge of what is intolerable, and what is not. Also, please refrain from flaming other members. If you really must, keep it inside of the Hot Issues forum. Er..just me or is a death threat generally not tolerated? Even jokingly.. 7 days ban and a punishment of writing down 500 times "I shall not threaten to kill someone over the Internet" for resistor1 aka Loki.
7 days is a good start.
goztow wrote on Wed, 30 December 2009 13:40 HaTe wrote on Wed, 30 December 2009 18:38 resistor1 wrote on Wed, 30 December 2009 09:43 Since you keep bringing me up and " Tempozias server".. I am the owner of Lemon-funwars retard.. Fuck you spoony im gonna kill u Rules Of Conduct Harassment/Racism/Flaming: Harassment of other members, racism, or any hate speech in general will not be tolerated. Moderators will be the judge of what is intolerable, and what is not. Also, please refrain from flaming other members. If you really must, keep it inside of the Hot Issues forum. Er..just me or is a death threat generally not tolerated? Even jokingly.. 7 days ban and a punishment of writing down 500 times "I shall not threaten to kill someone over the Internet" for resistor1 aka Loki. Is their actually going to be a punishment though? Not that i care, it's just that loki reminds me too much of troopmr2...
He is banned, whether or not he will actually write down those 500 lines is kinda beyond our control.
GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Wed, 30 December 2009 11:10 resistor1 wrote on Wed, 30 December 2009 09:43 Since you keep bringing me up and " Tempozias server".. I am the owner of Lemon-funwars retard.. Fuck you spoony im gonna kill u you mad? ewwwww, your breath smells like Spoony's dick D;
liquidv2 wrote on Thu, 31 December 2009 22:23 GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Wed, 30 December 2009 11:10 resistor1 wrote on Wed, 30 December 2009 09:43 Since you keep bringing me up and " Tempozias server".. I am the owner of Lemon-funwars retard.. Fuck you spoony im gonna kill u you mad? ewwwww, your breath smells like Spoony's dick D; With an after taste of any high authority on this forums.
What makes me laugh is Trooprm02 is constantly racist and insulting to nearly everyone(apart from spoony) so nothing is done about him. If you are going to ban simpee you might aswell ban troop for being a fucking racist retard?
Tiesto wrote on Sat, 02 January 2010 11:50 you might aswell ban troop for being a fucking racist retard? I agree