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What do you guys think about the mac commercials
Personally I think they're starting to get pretty annoying especially about leaving out small details in their new commercials like this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoGYBxbe_bw Good idea to buy a mac since I'll have to start fresh anyways! oh wait now I'll have to buy a 2000$ mac and 90% of the stuff on my pc won't work and I'm already on Vista so all my stuff will transfer over anyways
Re: What do you guys think about the mac commercials
They've kinda lost their cleverness over time. Plus, they're not really meant for people like you and me that know that Mac's are totally dumb. Instead, those commercials, especially this one in particular, are targeted towards people who can't seem to just Google and find out how to transfer their data, or install the new OS. Coincidentally, they're just as dumb as Mac's.
You know, if the bitch in the commercial is having "pain and frustration" with XP, then let her go to macs. I don't want her using Windows 7 anyway. EDIT: Also,
Dover wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 22:10 You know, if the bitch in the commercial is having "pain and frustration" with XP, then let her go to macs. I don't want her using Windows 7 anyway. EDIT: Also, LOL nice pic. Yeah these commercials are getting really annoying as well as they're trying to hard. Vista sucked for sure, but 7 is actually a decent OS. The best parts of XP and Vista rolled into one and then some. The Mac OS is nice, but their computers are far too expensive.
Homey wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 20:19 Dover wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 22:10 You know, if the bitch in the commercial is having "pain and frustration" with XP, then let her go to macs. I don't want her using Windows 7 anyway. EDIT: Also, LOL nice pic. Yeah these commercials are getting really annoying as well as they're trying to hard. Vista sucked for sure, but 7 is actually a decent OS. The best parts of XP and Vista rolled into one and then some. The Mac OS is nice, but their computers are far too expensive. Elaborate on why "Vista sucked".
-Bad compatibility with XP programs and games. -Bad compatibility with a lot of hardware. And of a lot of the hardware that did work, you had to go through a song and dance to get it working. -Try networking a Vista PC with an XP PC. (I shutter at the hours I spent wasting away trying to figure out the password on a computer that had no password.) -Security that was either extremely annoying or flat out absent. -A lot of hidden options or just unnecessarily moved ones. (A problem that might take a few seconds to fix on XP would take over an hour in Vista simply because the options for it were hard to find and the way the options were set up were completely different than they were in XP.) -Resource hog that slowed down any simple task that you wanted to accomplish dramatically. Just to name a few. I never bought Vista myself, but I used it on friend's computers, family member computers, and public computers. I always had issues trying to figure out simple tasks. It was a nightmare. It made using the computer so much harder than it had to be. I'm the guy in my family that people go to for computer assistance. But, every time someone had a problem with Vista, I could not fix it.. I had to figure out a compromise. And that's after hours of fiddling. With Windows 7, however, I couldn't be happier. It essentially works like XP, has the good features of Vista, & adds and fixes a lot of new features with compatibility and security. Not only that, but it runs incredibly smooth and looks good doing it.
R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 00:30 -Bad compatibility with XP programs and games. -Bad compatibility with a lot of hardware. And of a lot of the hardware that did work, you had to go through a song and dance to get it working. -Try networking a Vista PC with an XP PC. (I shutter at the hours I spent wasting away trying to figure out the password on a computer that had no password.) -Security that was either extremely annoying or flat out absent. -A lot of hidden options or just unnecessarily moved ones. (A problem that might take a few seconds to fix on XP would take over an hour in Vista simply because the options for it were hard to find and the way the options were set up were completely different than they were in XP.) -Resource hog that slowed down any simple task that you wanted to accomplish dramatically. Just to name a few. I never bought Vista myself, but I used it on friend's computers, family member computers, and public computers. I always had issues trying to figure out simple tasks. It was a nightmare. It made using the computer so much harder than it had to be. I'm the guy in my family that people go to for computer assistance. But, every time someone had a problem with Vista, I could not fix it.. I had to figure out a compromise. And that's after hours of fiddling. With Windows 7, however, I couldn't be happier. It essentially works like XP, has the good features of Vista, & adds and fixes a lot of new features with compatibility and security. Not only that, but it runs incredibly smooth and looks good doing it. This. Vista had a few nice parts to it, but it was by no means a casual computer. And it had a good lot of problems for gamers. So that basically leaves just developers, which are not a majority when it comes to PC users. Plus, for every nice part, there were about 5 bad ones. also apple sucks
R315r4z0r wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 22:30 -Bad compatibility with XP programs and games. Derp derp. It had bad compatibility with DOS programs and games. So does XP. I still get the occasional problem getting Civilization 2 to run on my XP machine without the use of an ISO. What your basically complaining about is "Things that aren't meant to run on this OS aren't running!" R315r4z0r wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 22:30 -Bad compatibility with a lot of hardware. And of a lot of the hardware that did work, you had to go through a song and dance to get it working. R315r4z0r wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 22:30 -Try networking a Vista PC with an XP PC. (I shutter at the hours I spent wasting away trying to figure out the password on a computer that had no password.) I did it at the office I used to work. I had no problems. L2Computer? R315r4z0r wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 22:30 -Security that was either extremely annoying or flat out absent. Again, L2Computer. If it's annoying you, you can turn the notifications off. If it's not enough for you, you can turn it up. What do you want? R315r4z0r wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 22:30 -A lot of hidden options or just unnecessarily moved ones. (A problem that might take a few seconds to fix on XP would take over an hour in Vista simply because the options for it were hard to find and the way the options were set up were completely different than they were in XP.) This is an argument against all updating. Most people had the same problem with Office 2007. This isn't the program's fault, but the users. There's an unrealistic expectation of "I know how to use X, so it should be the same on Y", when there's no reason to believe it's such. You paid for something new. R315r4z0r wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 22:30 -Resource hog that slowed down any simple task that you wanted to accomplish dramatically. Yeah, I had the same problem when I tried to put XP on a P2, 233 MHz machine way back when, and I have the same problem when trying to play NWN2 on my current machine. It helps if your machine meets the minimal requirements of what you're running. Just to name a few. R315r4z0r wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 22:30 I never bought Vista myself, but I used it on friend's computers, family member computers, and public computers. I always had issues trying to figure out simple tasks. It was a nightmare. It made using the computer so much harder than it had to be. I'm the guy in my family that people go to for computer assistance. But, every time someone had a problem with Vista, I could not fix it.. I had to figure out a compromise. And that's after hours of fiddling. Perhaps you're not as proficient as you think you are. L2Computer. GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 22:41 This. Vista had a few nice parts to it, but it was by no means a casual computer. Unless you count the Fisher Price machines that Apple is marketing as computers, there is no such thing as a "casual computer". GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 22:41 And it had a good lot of problems for gamers. Never experienced any. In fact, games I couldn't run on my XP machine (Halo 2, NWN2, Spore) I managed to get working on Vista.
Have fun watching your OS boot and run slower and slower every week. I'm not sure if I'd buy an iMac, but for most students, a Macbook > a Windows laptop if they can afford it. OS X is already sharper when it comes to most casual tasks, but this multi-touch keyboard technology is leaps beyond what Windows notebooks are offering when you don't have a mouse laying around. The battery life is second to none as well. I have a Macbook Pro, but the regular Macbooks now have these features as well since the newest revision and they cost 999$/ 949$ with student discount, which isn't too bad. Oh and if you really can't live without some Windows-only software, you can just install Windows.
JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 00:31 Have fun watching your OS boot and run slower and slower every week. Have fun paying double for the same hardware, and have fun not being able to run any software unless you get it from your "special" store, and have fun not being able to work on your computer's insides without giving it to the Apple Corporation to hold hostage (Unless you're into voided warranties), and have fun with that sinking feeling in the pit of your stomach, the one that tells you you're a hipster faggot. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 00:31 I'm not sure if I'd buy an iMac, but for most students, a Macbook > a Windows laptop if they can afford it. Actually, just about anything running windows > Macbook because: -Students are poor, and Mac's charge more to make you feel special. -Students are either just going to be taking notes or writing essays, in which case you want Microsoft Word (The real one, not the shitty Mac port)... -...Or they're taking some programming classes, in which case AH HAHAHAHAHA @ Macs. -Students leik vidya gaemz. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 00:31 OS X is already sharper when it comes to most casual tasks, Casually not running most software. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 00:31 but this multi-touch keyboard technology is leaps beyond what Windows notebooks are offering when you don't have a mouse laying around. If you don't have a mouse laying around, you don't get to use your computer. Touchpads suck, and nothing Apple can do to them will fix that. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 00:31 The battery life is second to none as well. I have a Macbook Pro, but the regular Macbooks now have these features as well since the newest revision and they cost 999$/ 949$ with student discount, which isn't too bad. Clearly, you've never been a student. And it's $1049, not $999. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 00:31 Oh and if you really can't live without some Windows-only software, you can just install Windows. Genius. I'll be overcharged for my hardware, and then I'll have to separately buy an OS that actually runs software I want. Where do I sign up lol?
Vista only sucked when it was first released, after they fixed it things were just as good as XP. You can't really judge an OS untill you've used it for some time at home. Because the OS you use at home is one you will have to use the most and be familiar with.
Dover wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 03:12 JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 00:31 Have fun watching your OS boot and run slower and slower every week. Have fun paying double for the same hardware, and have fun not being able to run any software unless you get it from your "special" store, and have fun not being able to work on your computer's insides without giving it to the Apple Corporation to hold hostage (Unless you're into voided warranties), and have fun with that sinking feeling in the pit of your stomach, the one that tells you you're a hipster faggot. Paying double? That's not true, Sony Vaio notebooks are generally more expensive than Macbooks, Dell notebooks are generally a bit cheaper. The price difference is greatly exaggerated and silly to use in a debate without providing an example. Changing the RAM and Harddrive doesn't void your warranty - what else are you going to change on a notebook? That's more than enough for 90% of students' needs. Dover wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 03:12 JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 00:31 I'm not sure if I'd buy an iMac, but for most students, a Macbook > a Windows laptop if they can afford it. Actually, just about anything running windows > Macbook because: -Students are poor, and Mac's charge more to make you feel special. -Students are either just going to be taking notes or writing essays, in which case you want Microsoft Word (The real one, not the shitty Mac port)... -...Or they're taking some programming classes, in which case AH HAHAHAHAHA @ Macs. -Students leik vidya gaemz. Moot points. -Students might be poor at your community college, but most of them aren't too worried about a price difference that corresponds to roughly one night of extensive clubbing. -Pages is superior to Word, but I have the feeling I'm arguing with someone who, unlike me, hasn't written term papers with both. Pages simply gives you cleaner layout. I haven't experienced any compatibility issues, either. Keynote is miles ahead of Powerpoint...it's really easy to make a presentation look professional with those templates, Powerpoint doesn't even come close. I'm not an avid Excel/Numbers user, so I can't comment on those two. -Those last two points just show there your argument is heading - nowhere. So you're trying to tell me that my point about most students being better off with a Macbook is wrong because I disregarded the horde of IT-nerds and hardcore gaming-addicts? Dover wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 03:12 JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 00:31 OS X is already sharper when it comes to most casual tasks, Casually not running most software. Another moot point until you give some examples. I'm eager to know which type of software that most students need can't be run under OS X. You know, browsing, listening to music, watching video, reading documents, word processing, presentations, chatting,... Dover wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 03:12 JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 00:31 but this multi-touch keyboard technology is leaps beyond what Windows notebooks are offering when you don't have a mouse laying around. If you don't have a mouse laying around, you don't get to use your computer. Touchpads suck, and nothing Apple can do to them will fix that. Not sure how things work in community college, but you won't be catching too many students around here that carry their mice along with them...it's an inconvenience that no longer necessary with a Macbook. The second part is gold, tho. "I have never really used Apple's multi-touch interface, but it must suck because my Windows notebook's touchpad sucked big time!" Dover wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 03:12 JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 00:31 The battery life is second to none as well. I have a Macbook Pro, but the regular Macbooks now have these features as well since the newest revision and they cost 999$/ 949$ with student discount, which isn't too bad. Clearly, you've never been a student. And it's $1049, not $999. No, I just stalk the pretty ladies on campus. Good to see you finally backing up your fact-absent argument with numbers. Unfortunately, they're incorrect http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/macbook?mco=MTAyNTM5ODc Click "get an education discount", type in your community college and watch the price drop to $949. Magic! Dover wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 03:12 JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 00:31 Oh and if you really can't live without some Windows-only software, you can just install Windows. Genius. I'll be overcharged for my hardware, and then I'll have to separately buy an OS that actually runs software I want. Where do I sign up lol? I'm pretty sure the casual gamers can either live with the games ported to OS X or get hold of a copy of windows (which everyone has laying around somewhere). Again, if you're talking about the IT-Nerds and hardcore gamers, you might want to check up the definition of most, as in 'most students'. www.apple.com
My parent's laptop uses Vista, And I've used it a lot and I like it... although I still prefer XP. I guess it just depends on what you want to use it for. Also, the "Windows 7 won;t have any of the bugs Windows Vista had, trust me" Mac commercial annoyed the heck out of me
Mac commercials should show how good they are, not how bad the PC is. The girl says mac is rated #1 haha. PC IS!
Mac and WIndows users alike should be thanking Apple for making great products and becoming a real threat to Microsoft in the OS department. Apple's pricing their products more competitively and Microsoft is showing that they're capable of great products as well when pushed by fierce competition, be it Sony or Apple. The consumer benefits and should be happy instead of nerdraging like that Dover weirdo and the other dweebs that are catching feelings because of an ad.
I don't think apple can get more users by bashing on competitors like that...
BlueThen wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 10:37 I don't think apple can get more users by bashing on competitors like that...
Ok, Dover. I'm lying. All of the problems I had with using an Operating System designed for user accessibility and production were just an unfounded and potentially bias portrayal of my emotions for hating an OS that I had been looking forward to for the couple of years before it's release. Seriously, do read what you say? Or does it just come naturally? "L2computer?" Two things: 1. I don't have to. If I can use the older model without problems, then shouldn't the new UPGRADED model work better and faster and more efficient? 2. Why should I? Most people who own computers don't know it's possible to do even the simplest tasks. The features in Vista were designed to give users less of a hard time on their computer. So how is it that it takes more effort and resources to do a simple task on Vista than it does in XP or Windows 7? Or, for that matter, why did Microsoft bother to release Windows 7 in the first place? What possible reason could they have to release a new OS version so soon after the release of Vista? You are the one who needs to "L2computer." The first lesson: No two people use a computer the same way. What positive experiences you had may not be the same for me and other people. You found use out of Vista? Good for you. I didn't. It's not an argument. We are not discussing takes on a proposed issue or matter, we are discussing past experiences with a physical product.
I think it's getting old... the commercials, that is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h1VQBfLDLA You only pay for the brand, not the actual hardware. You're better off buildings your own machine.
JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 10:44 Mac and WIndows users alike should be thanking Apple for making great products and becoming a real threat to Microsoft in the OS department. Apple's pricing their products more competitively and Microsoft is showing that they're capable of great products as well when pushed by fierce competition, be it Sony or Apple. The consumer benefits and should be happy instead of nerdraging like that Dover weirdo and the other dweebs that are catching feelings because of an ad. I agree about the competition - it's always a good thing and I am happy for it. Still, I always hold a dislike for any sort of ad that tries to promote itself by bashing its competitors. (*coughelectionscough*)
Also, what exactly is a Mac other than software? Can't you run a Mac OS on a PC?
R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 14:01 Also, what exactly is a Mac other than software? Can't you run a Mac OS on a PC? I know that a PC user could emulate Mac OS X on the machine if they wanted to, I've seen that before.
All mac users are gay or suffering from mental illness...
DimitryK wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 18:33 All mac users are gay or suffering from mental illness... good point faggot
JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 Paying double? That's not true, Sony Vaio notebooks are generally more expensive than Macbooks, Dell notebooks are generally a bit cheaper. The price difference is greatly exaggerated and silly to use in a debate without providing an example. High-end vios might be more expensive than low-end macbooks, sure. If you actually read what I wrote, I said for the same hardware. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 Changing the RAM and Harddrive doesn't void your warranty - what else are you going to change on a notebook? That's more than enough for 90% of students' needs. That's a different debate for a different--why it's better to have a good desktop than a laptop. My post was directed at Macs in general, not just notebooks. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 Moot points. Ah hahahahaha JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 -Students might be poor at your community college, but most of them aren't too worried about a price difference that corresponds to roughly one night of extensive clubbing. See, this let's me know that either: 1) You aren't a student, you just pretend to be one to pick up college girls at your nearest club (Fucking creepo), or... 2) Your mommy and daddy pay for poor study habits at Arizona State, or whatever shitty college it is you go to. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 -Pages is superior to Word, but I have the feeling I'm arguing with someone who, unlike me, hasn't written term papers with both. Pages simply gives you cleaner layout. I haven't experienced any compatibility issues, either. Keynote is miles ahead of Powerpoint...it's really easy to make a presentation look professional with those templates, Powerpoint doesn't even come close. I'm not an avid Excel/Numbers user, so I can't comment on those two. Except that people don't use Pages, or Keynote. They use Office, because that's what everyone else uses. No man is an island, and you can make your presentation look real shiny but it won't do your professor any good if he or she can't open it up when you turn it in. Come to think of it, I doubt your shitty mac equivalents are better. Otherwise, why would more people (Probably more Mac users, too) be using Office? JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 -Those last two points just show there your argument is heading - nowhere. So you're trying to tell me that my point about most students being better off with a Macbook is wrong because I disregarded the horde of IT-nerds and hardcore gaming-addicts? Most people who buy computers tend to do actually something with them, not just check facebook and troll Renforums. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 Another moot point until you give some examples. I'm eager to know which type of software that most students need can't be run under OS X. You know, browsing, Macfags can't run Google Chrome, and since Opera started sucking with Opera 10, that's just about the only browser worth running. Don't bother bringing up FailFox. I'd rather not use that RAM-hungry bloated browser, especially if I'm stick with an already-underpowered Apple machine. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 listening to music Do kids still listen to music on their computer in the age of iPods and Zune players? I wouldn't want to carry around a laptop everywhere in case I want to listen to music. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 watching video Videos or movies? If you mean videos, you probably mean YouTube and similar sites, in which case refer to the browser thing above. If you mean movies, L2DVDPlayer. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 reading documents, word processing, presentations, Either you're using a shitty port of MS Office, or you're using some shitty Mac equivalent software that nobody else uses, and thus nobody produces files for. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 chatting Lol. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 Not sure how things work in community college, but you won't be catching too many students around here that carry their mice along with them...it's an inconvenience that no longer necessary with a Macbook. Maybe they're so in debt from buying their overpriced paperweights you call macbooks that they can't afford a $30 mouse? Inconvenience? JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 The second part is gold, tho. "I have never really used Apple's multi-touch interface, but it must suck because my Windows notebook's touchpad sucked big time! All touchpads suck. Anything any touchpad can do, a mouse can do better. You might as well be debating why your skateboard is better than my skateboard, while I'm driving by in a car. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 No, I just stalk the pretty ladies on campus. What a fucking creepo. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 Good to see you finally backing up your fact-absent argument with numbers. Unfortunately, they're incorrect http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/macbook?mco=MTAyNTM5ODc Click "get an education discount", type in your community college and watch the price drop to $949. Magic! For the regular Macbook. You were talking about the macbook pro, which "drops" to $1049, not $999 as you claimed. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 I'm pretty sure the casual gamers can either live with the games ported to OS X If you call that living. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 or get hold of a copy of windows (which everyone has laying around somewhere). I'll accept this a concession of "My shitty OS can't run everything I need, so I'm going to get some help from the OS it bashes on TV every 45 minutes or so". g2G. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 Again, if you're talking about the IT-Nerds and hardcore gamers, you might want to check up the definition of most, as in 'most students'. If you mean the term "hardcore gamers" to mean "Anything who plays something more serious than Bejeweled", then I think you need to check the definition of "most". R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 09:40 Ok, Dover. I'm lying. All of the problems I had with using an Operating System designed for user accessibility and production were just an unfounded and potentially bias portrayal of my emotions for hating an OS that I had been looking forward to for the couple of years before it's release. Derp derp. R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 09:40 Seriously, do read what you say? Or does it just come naturally? "L2computer?" Two things: 1. I don't have to. If I can use the older model without problems, then shouldn't the new UPGRADED model work better and faster and more efficient? You're right. If I ride a bike, then I can drive a car, drive a tank and fly an airplane, right? They're just upgraded models of the same thing, right? I shouldn't have to learn things! R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 09:40 2. Why should I? Most people who own computers don't know it's possible to do even the simplest tasks. The features in Vista were designed to give users less of a hard time on their computer. So how is it that it takes more effort and resources to do a simple task on Vista than it does in XP or Windows 7? If most people are really having so much trouble with simple tasks on Vista, then maybe they should go over to Macs, but not before picking up a few napkins to wipe up the drool all over their desk. [quote title=R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 09:40]Or, for that matter, why did Microsoft bother to release Windows 7 in the first place? What possible reason could they have to release a new OS version so soon after the release of Vista? R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 09:40 You are the one who needs to "L2computer." The first lesson: No two people use a computer the same way. What positive experiences you had may not be the same for me and other people. You found use out of Vista? Good for you. I didn't. It's not an argument. We are not discussing takes on a proposed issue or matter, we are discussing past experiences with a physical product. Shouldn't these experiences be relevant, though? It's not the OS's fault if you don't know how to use it. Learn to, instead of wasting time complaining about it. If I didn't have any problems with it, maybe you should stop and consider that maybe the problem is with you? R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 12:01 Also, what exactly is a Mac other than software? Can't you run a Mac OS on a PC? Apple, unlike Microsoft, produces hardware, software, drivers, and firmware. They're made to work together and with nothing else. It's possible to get OSX on a real computer, but it really isn't worth the effort. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 17:54 DimitryK wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 18:33 All mac users are gay or suffering from mental illness... good point faggot
That's just too hard to quote, so I'm not going to bother. I'll just label them. (These are the ones responding to me) Quote #1: What the hell is 'derp derp?' Quote #2: Two things are wrong with your example. The first thing is that you have the chain backwards. It should be the most complex thing makes it easier for the least complex thing. So being able to drive a tank should mean you can drive a car, not the other way around. (Mind you that outside knowledge still applies. Meaning, just because you can drive the car doesn't mean you know the rules of the road.) The second thing that is wrong is that they are not 'upgraded models of each other.' The only thing that they remotely have in common is the fact that they are under the category of 'vehicles.' Comparing a bike to a plane is like comparing DOS to OSX. Quote #3: You're not getting it. First of all, only a fraction of the issues I had with Vista were user faults that I did spend hours trying to learn but to no success. Obviously there is a learning process... that's a given. But there is a line between learning something new and hunting down what you already know exists (for hours.) What's even more ridiculous is the fact that you're arguing in favor of Vista's progress and I'm in favor of Windows 7's. How can you say things like "L2computer" and 'that's what an upgrade is' when I have clearly stated my opinion that Windows 7 is the best Windows OS yet? It sort of upsets your entire argument for Vista's greatness. How is not being able to cope with an upgrade from XP to Vista a fault of my own when I can make a move from XP to Win7 without a single problem to speak of? How can you say that my incompetence to use Vista is a result of my ignorance in how upgrades work when I, myself, prefer the even newer, upgraded OS that is Windows 7?
*sigh* While everyone complains about Windows and Macintosh, I live in luxury.
dovers being a douche trying to force his opinion on to yours. They both have thier uses and there are many reasons why someone would pay more for a mac then a pc. less problems with viruses better end user support hardware can run windows and mac based os some people prefer the touchpad,keyboard,screen,battery tech some people prefer how they look / single block of aluminum and their are some reasons why people would buy a pc more affordable - though if u add it support, antivirus this isn't always so. It really depends on your own expertise. However the base unit is more affordable Gaming it is the standard I personally could find reasons to own one over the other or both. However I overally do not like laptops. High failure rates with bad customer support is usually looking for trouble. The whole mac vs pc fanboy debate is a waste of server storage space. Its comparing apples to oranges
As for the mac commercials yeh they get old, but most of what they say is somewhat true if exaggerated. Do you actually think a 5 year old could upload pictures to a vista pc and email them. As featured in pc commercials. Personally I own a pc, but I can fix any problem I would ever have with one. Someone with little computer experience could very well be better off with a mac.
Renebad wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 00:17 Do you actually think a 5 year old could upload pictures to a vista pc and email them. As featured in pc commercials. You'd be surprised how well off kids are with technology nowadays.
Dover wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 03:42 R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 12:01 Also, what exactly is a Mac other than software? Can't you run a Mac OS on a PC? Apple, unlike Microsoft, produces hardware, software, drivers, and firmware. They're made to work together and with nothing else. It's possible to get OSX on a real computer, but it really isn't worth the effort. Of course you can run Mac OS on a regular pc. Even Apple has started to use Intel cpu's and other hardware components used by WINDOWS COMPUTERS, because they couldn't keep up with the rest.
[quote title=Dover wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 20:42] JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 Paying double? That's not true, Sony Vaio notebooks are generally more expensive than Macbooks, Dell notebooks are generally a bit cheaper. The price difference is greatly exaggerated and silly to use in a debate without providing an example. High-end vios might be more expensive than low-end macbooks, sure. If you actually read what I wrote, I said for the same hardware. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 Changing the RAM and Harddrive doesn't void your warranty - what else are you going to change on a notebook? That's more than enough for 90% of students' needs. That's a different debate for a different--why it's better to have a good desktop than a laptop. My post was directed at Macs in general, not just notebooks. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 Moot points. Ah hahahahaha JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 -Students might be poor at your community college, but most of them aren't too worried about a price difference that corresponds to roughly one night of extensive clubbing. See, this let's me know that either: 1) You aren't a student, you just pretend to be one to pick up college girls at your nearest club (Fucking creepo), or... 2) Your mommy and daddy pay for poor study habits at Arizona State, or whatever shitty college it is you go to. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 -Pages is superior to Word, but I have the feeling I'm arguing with someone who, unlike me, hasn't written term papers with both. Pages simply gives you cleaner layout. I haven't experienced any compatibility issues, either. Keynote is miles ahead of Powerpoint...it's really easy to make a presentation look professional with those templates, Powerpoint doesn't even come close. I'm not an avid Excel/Numbers user, so I can't comment on those two. Except that people don't use Pages, or Keynote. They use Office, because that's what everyone else uses. No man is an island, and you can make your presentation look real shiny but it won't do your professor any good if he or she can't open it up when you turn it in. Come to think of it, I doubt your shitty mac equivalents are better. Otherwise, why would more people (Probably more Mac users, too) be using Office? JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 -Those last two points just show there your argument is heading - nowhere. So you're trying to tell me that my point about most students being better off with a Macbook is wrong because I disregarded the horde of IT-nerds and hardcore gaming-addicts? Most people who buy computers tend to do actually something with them, not just check facebook and troll Renforums. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 Another moot point until you give some examples. I'm eager to know which type of software that most students need can't be run under OS X. You know, browsing, Macfags can't run Google Chrome, and since Opera started sucking with Opera 10, that's just about the only browser worth running. Don't bother bringing up FailFox. I'd rather not use that RAM-hungry bloated browser, especially if I'm stick with an already-underpowered Apple machine. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 listening to music Do kids still listen to music on their computer in the age of iPods and Zune players? I wouldn't want to carry around a laptop everywhere in case I want to listen to music. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 watching video Videos or movies? If you mean videos, you probably mean YouTube and similar sites, in which case refer to the browser thing above. If you mean movies, L2DVDPlayer. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 reading documents, word processing, presentations, Either you're using a shitty port of MS Office, or you're using some shitty Mac equivalent software that nobody else uses, and thus nobody produces files for. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 chatting Lol. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 Not sure how things work in community college, but you won't be catching too many students around here that carry their mice along with them...it's an inconvenience that no longer necessary with a Macbook. Maybe they're so in debt from buying their overpriced paperweights you call macbooks that they can't afford a $30 mouse? Inconvenience? JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 The second part is gold, tho. "I have never really used Apple's multi-touch interface, but it must suck because my Windows notebook's touchpad sucked big time! All touchpads suck. Anything any touchpad can do, a mouse can do better. You might as well be debating why your skateboard is better than my skateboard, while I'm driving by in a car. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 No, I just stalk the pretty ladies on campus. What a fucking creepo. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 Good to see you finally backing up your fact-absent argument with numbers. Unfortunately, they're incorrect http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/macbook?mco=MTAyNTM5ODc Click "get an education discount", type in your community college and watch the price drop to $949. Magic! For the regular Macbook. You were talking about the macbook pro, which "drops" to $1049, not $999 as you claimed. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 I'm pretty sure the casual gamers can either live with the games ported to OS X If you call that living. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 or get hold of a copy of windows (which everyone has laying around somewhere). I'll accept this a concession of "My shitty OS can't run everything I need, so I'm going to get some help from the OS it bashes on TV every 45 minutes or so". g2G. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 Again, if you're talking about the IT-Nerds and hardcore gamers, you might want to check up the definition of most, as in 'most students'. If you mean the term "hardcore gamers" to mean "Anything who plays something more serious than Bejeweled", then I think you need to check the definition of "most". R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 09:40 Ok, Dover. I'm lying. All of the problems I had with using an Operating System designed for user accessibility and production were just an unfounded and potentially bias portrayal of my emotions for hating an OS that I had been looking forward to for the couple of years before it's release. Derp derp. R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 09:40 Seriously, do read what you say? Or does it just come naturally? "L2computer?" Two things: 1. I don't have to. If I can use the older model without problems, then shouldn't the new UPGRADED model work better and faster and more efficient? You're right. If I ride a bike, then I can drive a car, drive a tank and fly an airplane, right? They're just upgraded models of the same thing, right? I shouldn't have to learn things! R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 09:40 2. Why should I? Most people who own computers don't know it's possible to do even the simplest tasks. The features in Vista were designed to give users less of a hard time on their computer. So how is it that it takes more effort and resources to do a simple task on Vista than it does in XP or Windows 7? If most people are really having so much trouble with simple tasks on Vista, then maybe they should go over to Macs, but not before picking up a few napkins to wipe up the drool all over their desk. R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 09:40 Or, for that matter, why did Microsoft bother to release Windows 7 in the first place? What possible reason could they have to release a new OS version so soon after the release of Vista? R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 09:40 You are the one who needs to "L2computer." The first lesson: No two people use a computer the same way. What positive experiences you had may not be the same for me and other people. You found use out of Vista? Good for you. I didn't. It's not an argument. We are not discussing takes on a proposed issue or matter, we are discussing past experiences with a physical product. Shouldn't these experiences be relevant, though? It's not the OS's fault if you don't know how to use it. Learn to, instead of wasting time complaining about it. If I didn't have any problems with it, maybe you should stop and consider that maybe the problem is with you? R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 12:01 Also, what exactly is a Mac other than software? Can't you run a Mac OS on a PC? Apple, unlike Microsoft, produces hardware, software, drivers, and firmware. They're made to work together and with nothing else. It's possible to get OSX on a real computer, but it really isn't worth the effort. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 17:54 DimitryK wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 18:33 All mac users are gay or suffering from mental illness... good point faggot Geez...just listen to yourself. Put some coherence into your argument and back it up with examples...entertaining your childish anger issues isn't worth my time.
Microsoft 1.01 anyone?
JohnDoe wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 11:02 Geez...just listen to yourself. Put some coherence into your argument and back it up with examples...entertaining your childish anger issues isn't worth my time. lol fag
GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 10:36 JohnDoe wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 11:02 Geez...just listen to yourself. Put some coherence into your argument and back it up with examples...entertaining your childish anger issues isn't worth my time. lol fag no u
JohnDoe wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 12:30 GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 10:36 JohnDoe wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 11:02 Geez...just listen to yourself. Put some coherence into your argument and back it up with examples...entertaining your childish anger issues isn't worth my time. lol fag no u Go john!
JohnDoe wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 12:30 GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 10:36 JohnDoe wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 11:02 Geez...just listen to yourself. Put some coherence into your argument and back it up with examples...entertaining your childish anger issues isn't worth my time. lol fag no u says the fag
GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 12:44 JohnDoe wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 12:30 GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 10:36 JohnDoe wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 11:02 Geez...just listen to yourself. Put some coherence into your argument and back it up with examples...entertaining your childish anger issues isn't worth my time. lol fag no u says the fag no u
It's funny how people compare a 'PC' to mac or linux, since mac and any linux box IS a PC. What you're really trying to say is "windows vs mac/linux".
Even though the term "PC" means "Personal Computer" and a Mac is a "Personal Computer," Apple labeled their computers as Macs. In other words, a Mac is Apple's name for a PC. However, since Microsoft has never named a Windows running computer anything, it's just defaulted to PC. Apple does that with a lot of things. For example, iPods. What the product really is, at it's core, is an MP3 player. But people still go around calling it an iPod.
R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 19:53 Even though the term "PC" means "Personal Computer" and a Mac is a "Personal Computer," Apple labeled their computers as Macs. In other words, a Mac is Apple's name for a PC. However, since Microsoft has never named a Windows running computer anything, it's just defaulted to PC. Apple does that with a lot of things. For example, iPods. What the product really is, at it's core, is an MP3 player. But people still go around calling it an iPod.
MAC SUCKS PC SUCKS LINUX SUCKS COMPUTERS SUCK GET OVER IT NERDZ
Get off my internets!
if we're still talking about the adverts, then the mitchell and webb ones are pretty good. but then, david mitchell is always win.
I think they were kind of clever at the beginning, but they got old and annoying pretty fast. I remember a particular one that made it look like Macs have more fun, while PCs sit around and do spreadsheets. Is that misleading or what?
Renebad wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 07:11 dovers being a douche trying to force his opinion on to yours. They both have thier uses and there are many reasons why someone would pay more for a mac then a pc. less problems with viruses I stopped reading there. Ok, with windows XP it was *possible* to get a virus, if you really tried. With Windows 7 you really need to be retarded to get a virus. And yes, I do every now and then check for a virus.
A lot of Mac users think they don't crash; I think I've crashed more on a Mac than anything else.
Macs you pay extra for a computer that lasts longer with better graphics and doesn't crash as often as windows. Also it doesn't memory hog, so it doesn't take up loads of space. Also doesn't have many viruses on mac, what does that say about the coding?
[NE Fobby[GEN] wrote on Tue, 10 November 2009 18:49]A lot of Mac users think they don't crash; I think I've crashed more on a Mac than anything else. I don't know about a mac, but the only way I could get my Windows machine to crash was either faulty hardware or overclocking... And perhaps a sweex driver...
EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Tue, 10 November 2009 11:01 Renebad wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 07:11 dovers being a douche trying to force his opinion on to yours. They both have thier uses and there are many reasons why someone would pay more for a mac then a pc. less problems with viruses I stopped reading there. Ok, with windows XP it was *possible* to get a virus, if you really tried. With Windows 7 you really need to be retarded to get a virus. And yes, I do every now and then check for a virus. If you look at how many people get their credit card/social security/etc data stolen, how easy do you think it is to get someone to download a virus...most people don't even know what the file extensions mean and will consciously open something .exe thinking it's a video/document/whatever. No virus ever got past me, but it's still nice not having to worry and having to run a program in the background.
JohnDoe wrote on Tue, 10 November 2009 12:46 EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Tue, 10 November 2009 11:01 Renebad wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 07:11 dovers being a douche trying to force his opinion on to yours. They both have thier uses and there are many reasons why someone would pay more for a mac then a pc. less problems with viruses I stopped reading there. Ok, with windows XP it was *possible* to get a virus, if you really tried. With Windows 7 you really need to be retarded to get a virus. And yes, I do every now and then check for a virus. If you look at how many people get their credit card/social security/etc data stolen, how easy do you think it is to get someone to download a virus...most people don't even know what the file extensions mean and will consciously open something .exe thinking it's a video/document/whatever. No virus ever got past me, but it's still nice not having to worry and having to run a program in the background. I'd rather an afforable extra 1 GB of RAM or so to make up for that program running in the background and more, anyway.
GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 10 November 2009 12:57 JohnDoe wrote on Tue, 10 November 2009 12:46 EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Tue, 10 November 2009 11:01 Renebad wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 07:11 dovers being a douche trying to force his opinion on to yours. They both have thier uses and there are many reasons why someone would pay more for a mac then a pc. less problems with viruses I stopped reading there. Ok, with windows XP it was *possible* to get a virus, if you really tried. With Windows 7 you really need to be retarded to get a virus. And yes, I do every now and then check for a virus. If you look at how many people get their credit card/social security/etc data stolen, how easy do you think it is to get someone to download a virus...most people don't even know what the file extensions mean and will consciously open something .exe thinking it's a video/document/whatever. No virus ever got past me, but it's still nice not having to worry and having to run a program in the background. I'd rather an afforable extra 1 GB of RAM or so to make up for that program running in the background and more, anyway. I thought the Microsoft fanboys were allergic to paying extra...my 4 GB aren't being chipped away by a crappy OS structure...and my notebook still boots in less than 10 seconds, while my Vista laptop would take close to a minute by now. Of course, my top priority in life aren't videogames, so how could I possibly give credible consumer advice?
JohnDoe wrote on Tue, 10 November 2009 23:17 GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 10 November 2009 12:57 JohnDoe wrote on Tue, 10 November 2009 12:46 EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Tue, 10 November 2009 11:01 Renebad wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 07:11 dovers being a douche trying to force his opinion on to yours. They both have thier uses and there are many reasons why someone would pay more for a mac then a pc. less problems with viruses I stopped reading there. Ok, with windows XP it was *possible* to get a virus, if you really tried. With Windows 7 you really need to be retarded to get a virus. And yes, I do every now and then check for a virus. If you look at how many people get their credit card/social security/etc data stolen, how easy do you think it is to get someone to download a virus...most people don't even know what the file extensions mean and will consciously open something .exe thinking it's a video/document/whatever. No virus ever got past me, but it's still nice not having to worry and having to run a program in the background. I'd rather an afforable extra 1 GB of RAM or so to make up for that program running in the background and more, anyway. I thought the Microsoft fanboys were allergic to paying extra...my 4 GB aren't being chipped away by a crappy OS structure...and my notebook still boots in less than 10 seconds, while my Vista laptop would take close to a minute by now. Of course, my top priority in life aren't videogames, so how could I possibly give credible consumer advice? Well if i didnt gamed i think i would have taken Unix/Linux or MAC Mac does work great imo but XP and W7 do too EDIT: @JohnDoe: Dont even start about VISTA xD It's the worst of the worst
JohnDoe wrote on Tue, 10 November 2009 16:17 fanboys JohnDoe wrote on Tue, 10 November 2009 16:17 crappy OS structure mac fanboyism detected.
JohnDoe wrote on Tue, 10 November 2009 22:17 I thought the Microsoft fanboys were allergic to paying extra... it's more linux fanboys that are allergic to paying stuff. Windows fanboys can spend just as much as Mac fanboys. and viruses? I know it's old but
GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 10 November 2009 16:22 JohnDoe wrote on Tue, 10 November 2009 16:17 fanboys JohnDoe wrote on Tue, 10 November 2009 16:17 crappy OS structure mac fanboyism detected. more like unix fanboyism, dummy
Xylaquin wrote on Tue, 10 November 2009 16:42 JohnDoe wrote on Tue, 10 November 2009 22:17 I thought the Microsoft fanboys were allergic to paying extra... it's more linux fanboys that are allergic to paying stuff. Windows fanboys can spend just as much as Mac fanboys. and viruses? I know it's old but Nah, read the thread...they were bitching about Macs being more expensive for the same hardware, but it turns out they have no problem buying additional hardware to mask software deficits. That's only one of the reasons why there are virtually no Mac viruses. More importantly, you can't really fuck up someone's Mac with a virus because of the UNIX structure.
There is no fun in that though...
JohnDoe wrote on Tue, 10 November 2009 17:17 I thought the Microsoft fanboys were allergic to paying extra...my 4 GB aren't being chipped away by a crappy OS structure...and my notebook still boots in less than 10 seconds, while my Vista laptop would take close to a minute by now. Of course, my top priority in life aren't videogames, so how could I possibly give credible consumer advice? Just because one might prefer Windows to Mac, doesn't make them a Microsoft fanboy. (Maybe an anti-apple fanboy, though.) Windows has the widest variety of games available. There are people, like myself, who enjoy upgrading and enhancing computer hardware. As a hobby. I've thrown so much money away buying things for my computer, I could have probably bought a car if I hadn't spent it. I like Windows because I know it and it runs well. I've built my hardware around running it and I don't feel like downgrading to a Mac OS with less available for me to do. The fact that Microsoft makes Windows has nothing to do with it. Also, another thing to realize. The OS is just a one time deal. The additional hardware doesn't support Microsoft.
R315r4z0r wrote on Tue, 10 November 2009 21:40 JohnDoe wrote on Tue, 10 November 2009 17:17 I thought the Microsoft fanboys were allergic to paying extra...my 4 GB aren't being chipped away by a crappy OS structure...and my notebook still boots in less than 10 seconds, while my Vista laptop would take close to a minute by now. Of course, my top priority in life aren't videogames, so how could I possibly give credible consumer advice? Just because one might prefer Windows to Mac, doesn't make them a Microsoft fanboy. (Maybe an anti-apple fanboy, though.) Windows has the widest variety of games available. There are people, like myself, who enjoy upgrading and enhancing computer hardware. As a hobby. I've thrown so much money away buying things for my computer, I could have probably bought a car if I hadn't spent it. I like Windows because I know it and it runs well. I've built my hardware around running it and I don't feel like downgrading to a Mac OS with less available for me to do. The fact that Microsoft makes Windows has nothing to do with it. Also, another thing to realize. The OS is just a one time deal. The additional hardware doesn't support Microsoft. Replace Microsoft with Windows then, my autistic friend.
Let me rephrase. If Mac OSs had the ability to play all the games that the Windows library has, then it would be a hard decision to chose between the two.
I'm not calling you a fanboy, you prefer Windows for perfectly understandable reasons...this Dover dweeb is a hardcore MS/Windows/whatever you wanna call it nuthugger, that's all...that George character seems to be as well, but he seems like an instigator first and foremost.
R315r4z0r wrote on Wed, 11 November 2009 17:56 Let me rephrase. If Mac OSs had the ability to play all the games that the Windows library has, then it would be a hard decision to chose between the two. That's completely understandable and I agree, the main reason I have windows computers is because my family knows the basics on how they work, and how to deal with problems. Honestly, if it works better, then you should probably go for it, as apposed to features you really don't need/want/will ever use. As for the Mac Commercials, they annoy me because of the subliminal imagery and use of "plain folk propaganda", when a computer user who actually KNOWS what's going on would prefer what ever OS they are accustomed to, as apposed to a retard that really shouldn't be using a PC because they are to unintelligent. Basically, Apple is trying to appeal to the people who really aren't interested in computers, as well as to 'rebels' and the younger TV-watching generation. (Please note, the confusion between advertising and propaganda should be cleared up as advertising is technically propaganda, but propaganda leaves a nasty taste in the mouth.)
Propaganda is normally used as the negative of advertisement. For example: You use advertisement to help spread knowledge of a product you are selling. You use propaganda to aid in the spread of an unwanted idea (such as a rumor or stereotype).
JohnDoe wrote on Wed, 11 November 2009 16:03 this Dover dweeb is a hardcore MS/Windows/whatever you wanna call it nuthugger, that's all umad?
Dover wrote on Wed, 11 November 2009 23:55 JohnDoe wrote on Wed, 11 November 2009 16:03 this Dover dweeb is a hardcore MS/Windows/whatever you wanna call it nuthugger, that's all umad? Hi, I'm a PC and really shouldn't be quoting Cam'ron.
JohnDoe wrote on Thu, 12 November 2009 01:10 Dover wrote on Wed, 11 November 2009 23:55 JohnDoe wrote on Wed, 11 November 2009 16:03 this Dover dweeb is a hardcore MS/Windows/whatever you wanna call it nuthugger, that's all umad? Hi, I'm a PC and really shouldn't be quoting Cam'ron. HEY GUYS MAYBE IF I REPOST THIS SAME PICTURE I DUG UP FOR A THIRD TIME SOMEONE WILL NOTICE!!1! Faggot.
I'm only posting it because you look like a younger, even less attractive, equally fat version of "PC"...don't blame me, blame your parents. Good to see you feel uncomfortable enough about your appearance to delete the picture...where's your /b/tard bravado all of a sudden?
JohnDoe wrote on Thu, 12 November 2009 06:45 I'm only posting it because you look like a younger, even less attractive, equally fat version of "PC"...don't blame me, blame your parents. Good to see you feel uncomfortable enough about your appearance to delete the picture...where's your /b/tard bravado all of a sudden? I deleted it so you can go back to responding posts that are comprised entirely of that picture. Funny to see you accuse me of being uncomfortable with my appearance when you're too ashamed to post any pictures of yourself in any of the countless "SHOW URSELF" threads. What do you have to be ashamed of, JohnDoe? A third nipple on your forehead? And you lie, you reposted the same bullshit in other threads unrelated to PC vs Mac. You're just a low quality troll. But anyways, back on topic;
A thread about Operating Systems turning into personal attacks and e-beef?! God, I love RenForums.
nikki6ixx wrote on Thu, 12 November 2009 14:19 A thread about Operating Systems turning into personal attacks and e-beef?! God, I love RenForums.
Damn it, this would of made a great fanboy thread!
Dover wrote on Thu, 12 November 2009 16:19 JohnDoe wrote on Thu, 12 November 2009 06:45 I'm only posting it because you look like a younger, even less attractive, equally fat version of "PC"...don't blame me, blame your parents. Good to see you feel uncomfortable enough about your appearance to delete the picture...where's your /b/tard bravado all of a sudden? I deleted it so you can go back to responding posts that are comprised entirely of that picture. Funny to see you accuse me of being uncomfortable with my appearance when you're too ashamed to post any pictures of yourself in any of the countless "SHOW URSELF" threads. What do you have to be ashamed of, JohnDoe? A third nipple on your forehead? And you lie, you reposted the same bullshit in other threads unrelated to PC vs Mac. You're just a low quality troll. But anyways, back on topic; I've got nothing to be ashamed of, I posted pictures of myself throughout the years over at clanwars...I just don't see the point of posting my picture in a community I've never considered myself part of. I will post one here if you just concede that you're ugly.
JohnDoe wrote on Fri, 13 November 2009 00:24 I've got nothing to be ashamed of, I posted pictures of myself throughout the years over at clanwars...I just don't see the point of posting my picture in a community I've never considered myself part of. I will post one here if you just concede that you're ugly. Who gives a shit about clanwars? If you don't consider yourself a part of this community, what are you doing here posting now, taking something so trivial as an OS fanboy thread so srsly? What does my opinion of my own looks have to do with you posting a picture? I concede you're a bad troll.
Dover wrote on Fri, 13 November 2009 00:48 what are you doing here posting now, taking something so trivial as an OS fanboy thread so srsly? I seem to remember me sharing my opinion on the issue without attacking anyone while you were already having anger management issues every time someone dared to criticize windows...this guy probably even thinks he isn't that ugly.
JohnDoe wrote on Fri, 13 November 2009 07:01 Faggot. JohnDoe wrote on Fri, 13 November 2009 07:01 I seem to remember me sharing my opinion on the issue without attacking anyone while you were already having anger management issues every time someone dared to criticize windows... Not only have I been entirely calm for this whole thread, but you've made more posts (And more emotional posts) than me on this topic. You're bringing personal beefs and things unrelated to the topic (Like my picture, for like, the fifth time) into it. And I have anger management issues? JohnDoe wrote on Fri, 13 November 2009 07:01 this guy probably even thinks he isn't that ugly. You're REALLY hung up on my looks, aren't you? It was kind of cute in the retard sense at first, but it's getting a little creepy.
[quote title=Dover wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 20:42] JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 Paying double? That's not true, Sony Vaio notebooks are generally more expensive than Macbooks, Dell notebooks are generally a bit cheaper. The price difference is greatly exaggerated and silly to use in a debate without providing an example. High-end vios might be more expensive than low-end macbooks, sure. If you actually read what I wrote, I said for the same hardware. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 Changing the RAM and Harddrive doesn't void your warranty - what else are you going to change on a notebook? That's more than enough for 90% of students' needs. That's a different debate for a different--why it's better to have a good desktop than a laptop. My post was directed at Macs in general, not just notebooks. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 Moot points. Ah hahahahaha JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 -Students might be poor at your community college, but most of them aren't too worried about a price difference that corresponds to roughly one night of extensive clubbing. See, this let's me know that either: 1) You aren't a student, you just pretend to be one to pick up college girls at your nearest club (Fucking creepo), or... 2) Your mommy and daddy pay for poor study habits at Arizona State, or whatever shitty college it is you go to. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 -Pages is superior to Word, but I have the feeling I'm arguing with someone who, unlike me, hasn't written term papers with both. Pages simply gives you cleaner layout. I haven't experienced any compatibility issues, either. Keynote is miles ahead of Powerpoint...it's really easy to make a presentation look professional with those templates, Powerpoint doesn't even come close. I'm not an avid Excel/Numbers user, so I can't comment on those two. Except that people don't use Pages, or Keynote. They use Office, because that's what everyone else uses. No man is an island, and you can make your presentation look real shiny but it won't do your professor any good if he or she can't open it up when you turn it in. Come to think of it, I doubt your shitty mac equivalents are better. Otherwise, why would more people (Probably more Mac users, too) be using Office? JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 -Those last two points just show there your argument is heading - nowhere. So you're trying to tell me that my point about most students being better off with a Macbook is wrong because I disregarded the horde of IT-nerds and hardcore gaming-addicts? Most people who buy computers tend to do actually something with them, not just check facebook and troll Renforums. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 Another moot point until you give some examples. I'm eager to know which type of software that most students need can't be run under OS X. You know, browsing, Macfags can't run Google Chrome, and since Opera started sucking with Opera 10, that's just about the only browser worth running. Don't bother bringing up FailFox. I'd rather not use that RAM-hungry bloated browser, especially if I'm stick with an already-underpowered Apple machine. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 listening to music Do kids still listen to music on their computer in the age of iPods and Zune players? I wouldn't want to carry around a laptop everywhere in case I want to listen to music. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 watching video Videos or movies? If you mean videos, you probably mean YouTube and similar sites, in which case refer to the browser thing above. If you mean movies, L2DVDPlayer. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 reading documents, word processing, presentations, Either you're using a shitty port of MS Office, or you're using some shitty Mac equivalent software that nobody else uses, and thus nobody produces files for. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 chatting Lol. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 Not sure how things work in community college, but you won't be catching too many students around here that carry their mice along with them...it's an inconvenience that no longer necessary with a Macbook. Maybe they're so in debt from buying their overpriced paperweights you call macbooks that they can't afford a $30 mouse? Inconvenience? JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 The second part is gold, tho. "I have never really used Apple's multi-touch interface, but it must suck because my Windows notebook's touchpad sucked big time! All touchpads suck. Anything any touchpad can do, a mouse can do better. You might as well be debating why your skateboard is better than my skateboard, while I'm driving by in a car. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 No, I just stalk the pretty ladies on campus. What a fucking creepo. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 Good to see you finally backing up your fact-absent argument with numbers. Unfortunately, they're incorrect http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/macbook?mco=MTAyNTM5ODc Click "get an education discount", type in your community college and watch the price drop to $949. Magic! For the regular Macbook. You were talking about the macbook pro, which "drops" to $1049, not $999 as you claimed. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 I'm pretty sure the casual gamers can either live with the games ported to OS X If you call that living. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 or get hold of a copy of windows (which everyone has laying around somewhere). I'll accept this a concession of "My shitty OS can't run everything I need, so I'm going to get some help from the OS it bashes on TV every 45 minutes or so". g2G. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 04:01 Again, if you're talking about the IT-Nerds and hardcore gamers, you might want to check up the definition of most, as in 'most students'. If you mean the term "hardcore gamers" to mean "Anything who plays something more serious than Bejeweled", then I think you need to check the definition of "most". R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 09:40 Ok, Dover. I'm lying. All of the problems I had with using an Operating System designed for user accessibility and production were just an unfounded and potentially bias portrayal of my emotions for hating an OS that I had been looking forward to for the couple of years before it's release. Derp derp. R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 09:40 Seriously, do read what you say? Or does it just come naturally? "L2computer?" Two things: 1. I don't have to. If I can use the older model without problems, then shouldn't the new UPGRADED model work better and faster and more efficient? You're right. If I ride a bike, then I can drive a car, drive a tank and fly an airplane, right? They're just upgraded models of the same thing, right? I shouldn't have to learn things! R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 09:40 2. Why should I? Most people who own computers don't know it's possible to do even the simplest tasks. The features in Vista were designed to give users less of a hard time on their computer. So how is it that it takes more effort and resources to do a simple task on Vista than it does in XP or Windows 7? If most people are really having so much trouble with simple tasks on Vista, then maybe they should go over to Macs, but not before picking up a few napkins to wipe up the drool all over their desk. R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 09:40 Or, for that matter, why did Microsoft bother to release Windows 7 in the first place? What possible reason could they have to release a new OS version so soon after the release of Vista? R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 09:40 You are the one who needs to "L2computer." The first lesson: No two people use a computer the same way. What positive experiences you had may not be the same for me and other people. You found use out of Vista? Good for you. I didn't. It's not an argument. We are not discussing takes on a proposed issue or matter, we are discussing past experiences with a physical product. Shouldn't these experiences be relevant, though? It's not the OS's fault if you don't know how to use it. Learn to, instead of wasting time complaining about it. If I didn't have any problems with it, maybe you should stop and consider that maybe the problem is with you? R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 12:01 Also, what exactly is a Mac other than software? Can't you run a Mac OS on a PC? Apple, unlike Microsoft, produces hardware, software, drivers, and firmware. They're made to work together and with nothing else. It's possible to get OSX on a real computer, but it really isn't worth the effort. JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 17:54 DimitryK wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 18:33 All mac users are gay or suffering from mental illness... good point faggot This is me typing an 8-page rebuttal.
JohnDoe wrote on Fri, 13 November 2009 07:14 This is me typing an 8-page rebuttal. Dover wrote on Fri, 13 November 2009 14:59 You kept the picture of me! How cool! No, not cool. The other thing. Gay.
Dover wrote on Fri, 13 November 2009 09:19 JohnDoe wrote on Fri, 13 November 2009 07:14 This is me typing an 8-page rebuttal. Dover wrote on Fri, 13 November 2009 14:59 You kept the picture of me! How cool! No, not cool. The other thing. Gay. :'(
Sooooo, a Mac store opened around my neck of the woods, and I figured I'd swing by on my way from school. I was pleasantly surprised by how much the people knew about the systems as I played around with them. Granted, I'm used to the Best Buy/Future Shop ilk who seem to know the insides of their noses from picking them all day, better than a PC. I'd be comfortable buying a Mac for my folks based on the knowledge of the employees, something I can't say for any other dealer.
But Bestbuy is a retailer, not a manufacturer/developer. :V
nikki6ixx wrote on Sun, 22 November 2009 13:51 Sooooo, a Mac store opened around my neck of the woods, and I figured I'd swing by on my way from school. I was pleasantly surprised by how much the people knew about the systems as I played around with them. Granted, I'm used to the Best Buy/Future Shop ilk who seem to know the insides of their noses from picking them all day, better than a PC. I'd be comfortable buying a Mac for my folks based on the knowledge of the employees, something I can't say for any other dealer. ...BUT THEY SUCK FOR GAMING!!!11
nikki6ixx wrote on Sun, 22 November 2009 14:51 Sooooo, a Mac store opened around my neck of the woods, and I figured I'd swing by on my way from school. I was pleasantly surprised by how much the people knew about the systems as I played around with them. Granted, I'm used to the Best Buy/Future Shop ilk who seem to know the insides of their noses from picking them all day, better than a PC. I'd be comfortable buying a Mac for my folks based on the knowledge of the employees, something I can't say for any other dealer. Ever go to NCIX? I have a canada computers in my city, they're worlds better than FS/BB. I know more about most stuff than nearly all FS/BB employees. I love how they lie to you, or if you ask a specific question they don't know.
Homey wrote on Mon, 23 November 2009 00:04 nikki6ixx wrote on Sun, 22 November 2009 14:51 Sooooo, a Mac store opened around my neck of the woods, and I figured I'd swing by on my way from school. I was pleasantly surprised by how much the people knew about the systems as I played around with them. Granted, I'm used to the Best Buy/Future Shop ilk who seem to know the insides of their noses from picking them all day, better than a PC. I'd be comfortable buying a Mac for my folks based on the knowledge of the employees, something I can't say for any other dealer. Ever go to NCIX? I have a canada computers in my city, they're worlds better than FS/BB. I know more about most stuff than nearly all FS/BB employees. I love how they lie to you, or if you ask a specific question they don't know. Yeah we do. Ironically, the nearest NCIX is opposite a Future Shop. I've been, and every time, it's packed to the hilt with customers. I guess being next to a FS will do that. It's not me that I'm concerned about. It's my parents, and those who don't know their stuff. The last thing I want is them running to BB when their PC kicks the bucket because they'll assume the dude in khaki slacks and blue shirt in the PC section will know his shit about PC's, when in actuality, he wouldn't know a BIOS from a bluescreen. He'd either just tell them to buy something new or refer them to Geek Squad where they'd be charged tons of cash for a defrag and a virus scan that wouldn't fix the underlying issue. He's not going to help them, because he gets his hours based on how much he sells. Even though I wasn't a paying customer, and the Apple employee knew that, they still answered my questions and helped me figure things out; that's service you don't get too often these days. It wouldn't persuade me to buy an Apple for myself, but for people like my parents, the Apple Store would be a godsend if something bad happens.
Most people in electronic stores nowadays are sellers, not technicians. If you go to your local computer nerd store, you'll get someone who knows his shit. You also might pay a bit more (though that's not sure at all).
I'm not sure if there are these local nerd stores over there...it's mostly large chains.