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I'm currently re-energising the clanwars league, setting new servers up, improving the system generally... check the forums at clanwars.cc. there are various threads about my new ideas for the league. cheers
I'm happy you give it another shot . I hope it'll be a success, and hope you can create a more welcoming environment as well!
Goztow wrote on Tue, 20 October 2009 08:52 hope you can create a more welcoming environment as well!
there's good news there, because the pointsfix will be used in the clanwars league. if you make a list of the players who did the damage to clanwars' reputation i.e. continually breaking rules, trying to get any advantage possible, and starting flamewars all the time for no reason... and then if you make another list of people who've expressed unbridled outrage at the pointsfix, you've basically made the same list twice
if you make a list of people who supported using it in clanwars you'd have a huge list maybe one or two people they will play with it because they don't care; they just want to play, which is why people have hung around this long
that's ok, because the people who opposed it -a- had a habit of completely disregarding any admin rules that they felt got in the way of their advantage, and -b- got caught rigging polls several times. so whether policy is decided by admins or by majority, they lose either way cos they don't respect the admins and they don't respect democracy, so neither admins nor democracy need to respect them back.
i don't believe that every single player from clanwars.cc who did not the pointmod used in clanwars or did not like the pointmod were all players who Quote: had a habit of completely disregarding any admin rules that they felt got in the way of their advantage and Quote: got caught rigging polls several times. i believe that applies to some of them, but who supported the pointmod? i believe it was only yourself and whiskey? you mean to tell me that every other player in the clanwars community Quote: had a habit of completely disregarding any admin rules that they felt got in the way of their advantage and Quote: got caught rigging polls several times. ? why do you even bother hosting a ladder in such a horrible place full of poll-rigging and rule-breaking hooligans?
liquidv2 wrote on Wed, 21 October 2009 23:07 i don't believe that every single player from clanwars.cc who did not the pointmod used in clanwars or did not like the pointmod were all players who Quote: had a habit of completely disregarding any admin rules that they felt got in the way of their advantage and Quote: got caught rigging polls several times. then i guess you forgot what happened last time. if you remember there were something like 6-7 people currently arguing against the pointsfix, every single one of whom had a really crappy record in terms of honesty, fairplay etc. liquidv2 wrote on Wed, 21 October 2009 23:07 i believe that applies to some of them, but who supported the pointmod? i believe it was only yourself and whiskey? you mean to tell me that every other player in the clanwars community No, I said everyone vehemently opposed to it was the kind of player who didn't listen to the admin (i.e. broke rules all the time), and therefore was in no position to expect the admin to listen to them. Although, of course, I went to incredible lengths to listen to them. liquidv2 wrote on Wed, 21 October 2009 23:07 why do you even bother hosting a ladder in such a horrible place full of poll-rigging and rule-breaking hooligans? i guess i just think the game needs a clan ladder for the benefit of those who play fair, even if they're a minority.
Spoony wrote on Thu, 22 October 2009 02:16 then i guess you forgot what happened last time. if you remember there were something like 6-7 people currently arguing against the pointsfix, every single one of whom had a really crappy record in terms of honesty, fairplay etc. strawman argument LOL Spoony wrote on Thu, 22 October 2009 02:16 No, I said everyone vehemently opposed to it was the kind of player who didn't listen to the admin (i.e. broke rules all the time), and therefore was in no position to expect the admin to listen to them. Although, of course, I went to incredible lengths to listen to them. you claim the only people who were violently opposed to it were rule-breakers and Renegades; what about the rest of the clanwars.cc community that did not want it used in clanwars while not being fanatical on the issue? Spoony wrote on Thu, 22 October 2009 02:16 i guess i just think the game needs a clan ladder for the benefit of those who play fair, even if they're a minority. what does ethnicity have to do with Renegade?
liquidv2 wrote on Thu, 22 October 2009 18:14 you claim the only people who were violently opposed to it were rule-breakers and Renegades; what about the rest of the clanwars.cc community that did not want it used in clanwars while not being fanatical on the issue? Exactly, what about them? If they want a clan league with the pointsbug, what have they done about it? fuck all, that's what. the only person who hosted a clan league with the pointsbug is, that's right, me... and even though they had a clan league available with the pointsbug for the last year or so, they didn't even make use of it. now you have people like simpee and zell saying IM NOT PLAYING CLANWARS WITH THE POINTSFIX. check the battlelogs, they haven't played clanwars in a year.
Spoony wrote on Fri, 23 October 2009 02:03 now you have people like simpee and zell saying IM NOT PLAYING CLANWARS WITH THE POINTSFIX. check the battlelogs, they haven't played clanwars in a year. errrr no one has, league has been dead since last october
but for all intents and purposes he has to name them to discredit them and make them look bad!11 Cw.cc: Spoony, we don't like the pointmod and don't want to use it in clanwars. And you autoreport buffer maps. Spoony: Fuck you, go make your own league. fair enough; that's the easy way out of any argument it's his so he can do what he wants with it; that doesn't mean he's not a penis though
liquidv2 wrote on Thu, 22 October 2009 21:57 but for all intents and purposes he has to name them to discredit them and make them look bad!11 Cw.cc: Spoony, we don't like the pointmod and don't want to use it in clanwars. And you autoreport buffer maps. Spoony: Fuck you, go make your own league. fair enough; that's the easy way out of any argument it's his so he can do what he wants with it; that doesn't mean he's not a penis though I ran clanwars as a dictatorship, of course I did, but I always kept the floor open for debate. If someone could logically explain what was wrong with a decision, why it was unfair, it'd be changed. if that case was not successfully made, the decision would stand. Saying "but 90% of people agree with me!" doesn't fly, sorry. But here's the thing. I went to incredible lengths to listen to people who went to incredible lengths to AVOID listening to me. You're asking: why is this admin not listening to the community? (which shows you don't even read the threads, but we'll ignore that). I reply: the people you're talking about don't listen to the admin. They outright disregard rules they don't like. This was true for EVERY SINGLE PERSON you were siding with. Cheaters, pointpushers and rulebreakers. I don't make rules to please people who continually break them. If anything, when one of your rules has all the cheaters and pointpushers and rulebreakers in such terror, you might think you're on to something. As for "go make your own league", you say that as if it isn't an extremely good argument. There is nothing, absolutely nothing stopping the likes of simpee making or buying his own league. You support each community's right to choose pointsfix or no pointsfix? Of course you do, you signed roni's petition. That means if Clanwars chooses to use the pointsfix, you ought to approve of tha,t and if some of its players don't like it, they can go make their own league. But you didn't, instead you supported the people like simpee who tried to subvert the admin's decision. When you spoke out in support of these saboteurs instead of the rightful league owner, you clearly didn't realise how much damage you were doing to your own credibility, but I would have hoped you'd have realised by now. But still, I'm still the bad guy here, because I wanted to use the pointsfix in my league. Now, I'll repeat that statement. I wanted to use the pointsfix in my league. pay attention to the word "wanted". It was never compulsory. Who's the only person who hosted a clanwars league with the points bug, even after the pointsfix was created, in spite of his approval of the pointsfix? Apparently that makes me a "penis"... wanting to use the pointsfix, but still hosting a league with the pointsbug. But when cheaters and pointpushers actively subvert someone else's league, you don't have a single bad word to say about it. Like I said, I don't think you realise how much damage you're doing to your own credibility here.
two people wanted it; you're acting like more wanted it but simpee and the gang of hooligans negated them every community has a choice; the fact that you chose what you wanted over what literally everyone else wanted (minus a single person who just so happened to be your right hand man) made you look like a penis, or a big fat dicktator if it makes the game more balanced and fair then in time clanwars players will learn to accept it or be forever bitter because they wish for the olden days to return to be fair i never said you could not do whatever you wanted; i just never really understood why you had no problem whatsoever with making a decision that every single player did not want (minus yourself and whiskey)
liquidv2 wrote on Thu, 22 October 2009 23:00 two people wanted it; you're acting like more wanted it but simpee and the gang of hooligans negated them No, I don't need to say "sufficient people agree with me". I'd rather say "nobody has been able to refute what I said". That is not the first time majority has been against me at Clanwars, and not the first time when I turned out to be right, and not the first time when if the "majority" were listened to, the consequences may have been disastrous. liquidv2 wrote on Thu, 22 October 2009 23:00 every community has a choice; the fact that you chose what you wanted over what literally everyone else wanted (minus a single person who just so happened to be your right hand man) made you look like a penis, or a big fat dicktator I love how you keep saying this about whiskey. "he just so happened to be your right hand man". He just so happened to be the only person other than me who gave enough of a shit about the clanwars community to help run a league. You say this as if it's a bad thing, as if it somehow negates his opinion. Yet when I say: the people who most vehemently opposed the pointsfix have a long history of disregarding admin decisions and therefore they shouldn't think I ought to listen to them at all, you act like I don't make an incredibly important point by saying so. My good sir, I put it to you that you've got the entire situation about as upside-down as you could possibly get it. liquidv2 wrote on Thu, 22 October 2009 23:00 if it makes the game more balanced and fair then in time clanwars players will learn to accept it or be forever bitter because they wish for the olden days to return Actually, if it makes the game more balanced and fair then that is precisely why many people will always oppose it, specifically the very people you were so quick to defend. liquidv2 wrote on Thu, 22 October 2009 23:00 to be fair i never said you could not do whatever you wanted; i just never really understood why you had no problem whatsoever with making a decision that every single player did not want That's because you don't understand how to run a league, and there's no reason why you should. Given a choice between doing what you think is right and doing what you think will make you popular, a good admin will take the flaming.
Is clanwars.cc being DDOS'ed again? The site has been down all day.
its fine for me, its weird like that. Had similar situation a few years back.
apparently i upset hitman; he pm'ed me about clanwars sorry hitman
np, just saying you might aswell stfu since your full of shit anyways, pleas take my pm to heart.
i disagree but i can say i'm glad spoony is back and trying to get something going again; it's good for Renegade it might be easier for him to do that if there were less people like yourself making the place look like it's full of angry children
liquidv2 wrote on Sat, 24 October 2009 19:27 it might be easier for him to do that if there were less people like yourself making the place look like it's full of angry children that's why i didn't join
liquidv2 wrote on Sat, 24 October 2009 19:27 i disagree but i can say i'm glad spoony is back and trying to get something going again; it's good for Renegade it might be easier for him to do that if there were less people like yourself making the place look like it's full of angry children just cause i like to type the occasional post 'flaming' people like you that know nearly nothing on the entire subject they are trying to discuss doesn't make me a "angry kid", nice try tho bosnian #2.
wrong you and him may as well be twins
why? are you gonna go talking to people on msn about beating the shit into him if you ever meet him in real life with all your mates? LOL i thought ill just add that it's not the pointsfix which makes me stay away from cw.cc, spoony is the reason. the reason people stopped playing like a year ago spoony was because you left the league in the hands of a complete moron like wiskey who ran the league into the ground because of how unfair he ran the league and how he would manipulate his own rules to get a win out of anything. once wiskey gave up running the league there was no admin( yes he cares so much that rather then look for a new admin he'd just dump the league the way he made it, a disgrace) i don't have much faith in spoonys decisions or judgement and he acts like a whiney little baby and hes prooved it time again how much of a baby he is.
LOOOOOOOOOOL time of the month zell?
it's around that time of the month where you get so upset at someone picking on you on a online game to a point where you posted a fake picture of yourself and lied that it was you, 10 minutes later you start paging me saying that it's not really you but it's actually a guy you travelled to a different city with all your mates carrying a baseball bat to beat the shit into him and you start wishing that ss lived near you so you could do the same to him to shut him up and make him stop picking on you anything to be cool eh hitman?
ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 13:33 it's around that time of the month where you get so upset at someone picking on you on a online game to a point where you posted a fake picture of yourself and lied that it was you, 10 minutes later you start paging me saying that it's not really you but it's actually a guy you travelled to a different city with all your mates carrying a baseball bat to beat the shit into him and you start wishing that ss lived near you so you could do the same to him to shut him up and make him stop picking on you anything to be cool eh hitman? LOL really zell, you are entirely wrong and the guy i posted pic of for fun was a friend of mine who was over at my place at that time since he still had some shit open that contained picture's of him, so i took the most retarded one, i have refuted all your dumb accusations towards my 2+ year old jokes before and now you bring them up again for what reason exactly? next time i make a statement of some sorts, make sure to detect when its just plain bullshit, its usually followed by a stupid smiley, though that'd give it away... appearantly that is not enough! I never ever went towards anywhere with my friends to beat anyone up, I do not even own a baseball bat to begin with LOL, as for ss picking on me: he used to be a douchebag towards me when i was new, i've actually been talking with him quite a bit for years now, cant help your brain is still stuck somewhere around 5 centurys ago LOL better luck next time ps: relax and drink a cup of tea before you reply next time, wouldn't want you jumping of a bridge or something similar...
im not wrong at all i never believed you did anything you said you did what kind of idiot believes someone with low self esteem whos being picked on that he went around beating people up with baseball bats and even posted a fake picture of himself you've never refuted anything to be honest your just lying now i mean ss talks so much shit to you and says your most likely some fat nerd with glasses etc and you post a pic of your "friend" to proove him wrong and this means you was joking? even after all the pathetic replies you made to him to get back at him which backfired? damn...i thought you'd have a sense of humour and laugh off how you acted as a kid..guess not your PM's to liquid prooves spoonys judgement is questionable seeing as liquid never said anything to you yet you felt the need to PM him and insult him. nice to know he regards you as a valuable clan war player i'm sure your PM's to flame people from different communities will encourage people to join cw.cc keep up the good work ps: im glad you and ss have worked out your differences i was afraid if you never had his approval you may be the 1 jumping off the bridge instead of me
ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 20:52 im not wrong at all i never believed you did anything you said you did what kind of idiot believes someone with low self esteem whos being picked on that he went around beating people up with baseball bats and even posted a fake picture of himself you've never refuted anything to be honest your just lying now i mean ss talks so much shit to you and says your most likely some fat nerd with glasses etc and you post a pic of your "friend" to proove him wrong and this means you was joking? even after all the pathetic replies you made to him to get back at him which backfired? damn...i thought you'd have a sense of humour and laugh off how you acted as a kid..guess not your PM's to liquid prooves spoonys judgement is questionable seeing as liquid never said anything to you yet you felt the need to PM him and insult him. nice to know he regards you as a valuable clan war player i'm sure your PM's to flame people from different communities will encourage people to join cw.cc keep up the good work ps: im glad you and ss have worked out your differences i was afraid if you never had his approval you may be the 1 jumping off the bridge instead of me LMAO, low self esteem? i think i have more self esteem than your entire cod4 crew together, moron... how many of your e-buddys have actually ever posted a pic of themself on a renegade related forum? 1? maybe 2? i remember i asked simpee for pic when i was in EF LOL, reply was something among the lines of : "i send later, dont judge tho i might look bit pale cos monitor shining in face"... never got to see his picture, same with nearly everyone u 'hang around' with LOL, nice taking a stupid joke so serious claiming im "to insecure to post my own pic" or soemthing? I remember i have posted my pic several times actually but that 'argument' is about as retarded as all the other shit u bring up out of the blue, if anyone here is an insecure geek, i suggest you start by looking at your very own cod4 crew, before you throw around bullshit while i have refuted everything you said multiple times, this is like the 3th time u bring this shit up out of nowhere? guess you got to get rid of your anger somewhere... and how did i "flame" liquid? i told him to shut up about thinks he doesn't know anything about... how is that a flame, please explain cause i dont fully understand. as for SS(yet again): he used to piss me off when i just joined, i haven't had a single negative comment from him towards me in years now, good thing you keep track of time tho, but well yeah appearantly you seem to get your entire stack of bullshit "arguments" out of a museum anyways so im not exactly surprised to say the least. and also, i dont think your fully up to date(what a surprise) on the entire liquidv2 thing... i never "flamed" him before he started shit with me somewhere on this forum, so i'd say he started it therefor im sure i can give a reply on what my thoughts were(i even did this in a pm so i wouldn't have to bother the other people on this forum) and to end with: do you have any other bullshit that you'd like to throw at me that isn't taken from a flawed historybook?
wow you sure do get angry pretty quickly nah im happy with that post you just made, kinda prooves my point brb gonna jump off bridge
yeah, too bad my statements are actually true lol, you came here out of nowhere to flame me with some old bullshit so i dont see why i cant just do something similar while you ran out of your ancient "arguments", and as far as getting upset and angry goes, I've seen you get upset for ingame related things so many times, so when i refute your bullshit and call you a moron(wich you are) on the way through your so called arguments, that again is the trueth, not me being furious or anything like that, if you weren't such a moron you'd actually come back with a worthy reply, but you know i just shut you up since you have nothing else to add even tho you were so eager to start something out of nowhere, good one zell. I'm done replying here for now, might reply back later and refute your post once again kind regards
Quote: i have refuted all your dumb accusations towards my 2+ year ITS HAPPENING!1 hitman is turning into spoony. i dont know hitman, those posts of urs sound really angry. its funny u would bring SS into this because you was the one he was beefing on until i stuck up for u, god knows why. funny thing is u try to use the same argument he used against u against other people, just further evidence of ur ability to turn into other people. i know english isnt ur first language but shit a little individuality wouldnt hurt
Quote: so when i refute your bullshit and call you a moron all u need to do is turn moron into liar and hey presto
yes you really shut me up!!!!1 i dont need to think of anything to say pretty much tbh i like saying it cause it really does get to you and it takes little to no effort to do, why would i think of anything else when this gets to you so much? you did the exact same to liquid by flaming him out of nowhere and you whine about me doing same to you tbh once again you have not refuted anything you have just resorted to lying to make out that your not pathetic and then you had to go on a rampage and try prooving how everybody i "hang around" with are all losers with low self esteem etc maybe you really should stop posting your just digging yourself even deeper into a hole
I am the angry one, yet it is zell that starts flaming me out of nowhere, when i said "you should meet ss" i ment SS is notorious for giving people shit about alot of trivial things, since that's what he started talking to me about in a rather disrespectful manner, therefor i said there are people that are alot worse(therefor mentioning ss LOL), so if you would of just kept your mouth shut you could of saved us both some time here but you decided to bring shit up where is was not relevant at all(dont see how that can be relevant anywhere anywhere but ok...) and i never flamed liquid, so dont pretend your giving me shit because i allegedly did something to provoke him, when i did not do anything like flaming him or such, so you really did start this out of nowhere yet i am the angry one when I say such things about your buddys? good call
ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 12:08 i thought ill just add that it's not the pointsfix which makes me stay away from cw.cc, spoony is the reason. the reason people stopped playing like a year ago spoony was because you left the league in the hands of a complete moron like wiskey who ran the league into the ground because of how unfair he ran the league and how he would manipulate his own rules to get a win out of anything. once wiskey gave up running the league there was no admin( yes he cares so much that rather then look for a new admin he'd just dump the league the way he made it, a disgrace) even if any of this is true, and given your track record of criticising renadmins i'm not terribly convinced, how is this an argument against me? did *I* ever do anything like this when i was running the league? simpee and clearshot have tried to argue that i did, although they had to lie again and again and again to try to make the point... you wanna see if you can do better? ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 12:08 your PM's to liquid prooves spoonys judgement is questionable seeing as liquid never said anything to you yet you felt the need to PM him and insult him. nice to know he regards you as a valuable clan war player i'm sure your PM's to flame people from different communities will encourage people to join cw.cc keep up the good work Thumbs Up ah right. so liquid said nothing bad to hitman but hitman insults him, and this proves hitman is not a valuable clan member and i'm an idiot for thinking he is? then what the hell is simpee+clearshot and what the hell are you? i never did anything wrong to simpee or clearshot, and yet they go to INCREDIBLE lengths to attack me; they post huge lists of accusations to try to make me look bad, all of them lies. so by your own logic they're not valuable clan players, the league's better off without them, and your judgement is as bad as you're making mine out to be.
oh btw zell, go check that end of the world in 2012 thread again, on jelly. that fredcow guy you were arguing religion with.
Spoony wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 17:17 ah right. so liquid said nothing bad to hitman but hitman insults him, and this proves hitman is not a valuable clan member and i'm an idiot for thinking he is? he makes your league look like a bunch of faggots it has absolutely nothing to do with me; that's just the way it is in my opinion you'd have a much easier time helping the league grow with less players like hitman making it look like a daycare center for children with anger issues
Spoony wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 17:17 ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 12:08 i thought ill just add that it's not the pointsfix which makes me stay away from cw.cc, spoony is the reason. the reason people stopped playing like a year ago spoony was because you left the league in the hands of a complete moron like wiskey who ran the league into the ground because of how unfair he ran the league and how he would manipulate his own rules to get a win out of anything. once wiskey gave up running the league there was no admin( yes he cares so much that rather then look for a new admin he'd just dump the league the way he made it, a disgrace) even if any of this is true, and given your track record of criticising renadmins i'm not terribly convinced, how is this an argument against me? did *I* ever do anything like this when i was running the league? simpee and clearshot have tried to argue that i did, although they had to lie again and again and again to try to make the point... you wanna see if you can do better? ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 12:08 your PM's to liquid prooves spoonys judgement is questionable seeing as liquid never said anything to you yet you felt the need to PM him and insult him. nice to know he regards you as a valuable clan war player i'm sure your PM's to flame people from different communities will encourage people to join cw.cc keep up the good work Thumbs Up ah right. so liquid said nothing bad to hitman but hitman insults him, and this proves hitman is not a valuable clan member and i'm an idiot for thinking he is? then what the hell is simpee+clearshot and what the hell are you? i never did anything wrong to simpee or clearshot, and yet they go to INCREDIBLE lengths to attack me; they post huge lists of accusations to try to make me look bad, all of them lies. so by your own logic they're not valuable clan players, the league's better off without them, and your judgement is as bad as you're making mine out to be. the point i made about you allowing wiskey to ruin the league was to show it was a bad call for you to leave the league in his hands he not only manipulated the league to get wins he didnt deserve but he also destroyed the league and caused it to die and left it that way and by the hitman thing i meant your trying hard to make it so people will actually join your league and enjoy it without people talking shit to them yet you have hitman who is PMing people and flaming them when he was not even mentioned in the topic which kind of ruins ur motive of trying to restore league dont you think?
tbh i find it retarded that your arguing with him i mean i could see from how he reacted with my reply that he was someone who was hell bent on trying to proove god made the earth etc and i just couldn't be bothered to argue with him you probaly shouldnt either i dont really think he is going to see it any other way. your most likely wasting your time with him
liquidv2 wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 17:48 Spoony wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 17:17 ah right. so liquid said nothing bad to hitman but hitman insults him, and this proves hitman is not a valuable clan member and i'm an idiot for thinking he is? he makes your league look like a bunch of faggots it has absolutely nothing to do with me; that's just the way it is in my opinion you'd have a much easier time helping the league grow with less players like hitman making it look like a daycare center for children with anger issues he says it better then me ( sorry i did not refresh so i didnt see liquids post until a bit late)
Quote: and i never flamed liquid, so dont pretend your giving me shit because i allegedly did something to provoke him, when i did not do anything like flaming him or such, so you really did start this out of nowhere yet i am the angry one when I say such things about your buddys? you are the one that started talking shit about me, all of which was a lie apart from me not giving u picture. u launch in all guns blazing, bring up pictures and social lifes because u like being SS every now and then, yet when i reply ur like wow hang on i didnt start all this flaming. good to see ur backing out tho because u know u do have a habit of changing into people when u play with them.
its ok zell, im sure the forum god will except ur apology
ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 17:06 the point i made about you allowing wiskey to ruin the league was to show it was a bad call for you to leave the league in his hands he not only manipulated the league to get wins he didnt deserve but he also destroyed the league and caused it to die and left it that way listen buddy, i had something urgent to deal with. you're basically saying that another admin didn't live up to the standards of the league when i was running the show? here's a question, and you are not allowed to dodge it. either answer it or admit you can't answer it. if whiskey was such a terrible admin, why didn't you make another league and run it better? ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 17:06 and by the hitman thing i meant your trying hard to make it so people will actually join your league and enjoy it without people talking shit to them yet you have hitman who is PMing people and flaming them when he was not even mentioned in the topic which kind of ruins ur motive of trying to restore league dont you think? in principle it's a fair point, but in practice it fails because when i take a stand against far worse offenders than hitman (simpee's probably the best example), you're against it; you go out of your way to attack me for doing so.
Spoony wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 19:13 ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 17:06 the point i made about you allowing wiskey to ruin the league was to show it was a bad call for you to leave the league in his hands he not only manipulated the league to get wins he didnt deserve but he also destroyed the league and caused it to die and left it that way listen buddy, i had something urgent to deal with. you're basically saying that another admin didn't live up to the standards of the league when i was running the show? here's a question, and you are not allowed to dodge it. either answer it or admit you can't answer it. if whiskey was such a terrible admin, why didn't you make another league and run it better? ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 17:06 and by the hitman thing i meant your trying hard to make it so people will actually join your league and enjoy it without people talking shit to them yet you have hitman who is PMing people and flaming them when he was not even mentioned in the topic which kind of ruins ur motive of trying to restore league dont you think? in principle it's a fair point, but in practice it fails because when i take a stand against far worse offenders than hitman (simpee's probably the best example), you're against it; you go out of your way to attack me for doing so. i think this was way before the urgent problems since i seem to remember you backing wiskey on quite a few things cause even though you was there you did not play games( excuse me if im wrong about this i do not know exactly when you had the urgent problem) but i believe wiskey was admin long before this happened if im wrong then just disregard what im saying cause i did not play so much while wiskey was an admin( due to him being so unfair)im a little hazey on the time as for the 2nd question i do not know how to buy a league and was never interested in buying 1 since i havent believed the cw.cc league would have had much activity on it due to people not bothering to play renegade anymore(including myself and ive already given you the reasons to why i stopped playing it) lately i have been playing fun wars and im happy playing them but i dont appreciate you lying about me saying i do not want to play in your league because of pointsfix just to clear them up the reasons are i do not agree with quite a few things about where ur going with this league so i choose not to play it, i am happy playing the fun wars and i just cannot simply deal with the drama H2O and you will bring back to this game only reason i bothered posting in this topic was because you said i wouldnt play anymore because of the pointsfix when that is not true last thing i attack your choices you have made because i feel they were wrong and when u pm'd me to explain and then i explained what i thought about it you started to attack me, call names and lose your temper( i did not attack you for your views so why you do it to me?) then you had the nerve to say it was ME who lost my temper after that i just found talking to you reasonably was out of the question and a lost cause you seem to think im doing this for simpee but im not which is why i did not fight with you on the pointsfix topic but how you reacted to the topic is what is questionable and everybody on clanwars has said the same
ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 18:56 i think this was way before the urgent problems since i seem to remember you backing wiskey on quite a few things cause even though you was there you did not play games( excuse me if im wrong about this i do not know exactly when you had the urgent problem) but i believe wiskey was admin long before this happened if im wrong then just disregard what im saying cause i did not play so much while wiskey was an admin( due to him being so unfair)im a little hazey on the time it is true that whiskey was an admin for some time when i was still around, but during that time i did keep an eye on him and other than halo i would call him the best renadmin i recruited. if anyone else would have done a better job, perhaps they should have expressed an interest in it. ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 18:56 as for the 2nd question i do not know how to buy a league and was never interested in buying 1 yes, i've asked that question several times and the answer is always along these lines, if they dare answer at all... not interested, not worth my time/money/trouble. and yet when someone actually does have the time/money/trouble... myself, whiskey... we get nothing but backchat and ballache from people who could host a league but don't think the community is worth the effort. never forget that because when you've said your very worst about my admin-ness, or even whiskey's, that fact automatically beats it. ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 18:56 lately i have been playing fun wars and im happy playing them but i dont appreciate you lying about me saying i do not want to play in your league because of pointsfix did i mention you specifically? i think the only people i mentioned by name about their reasons for not playing in the league are simpee and clearshot. in both cases i went to the trouble of specifically examining the reasons they gave. ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 18:56 just to clear them up the reasons are i do not agree with quite a few things about where ur going with this league so i choose not to play it, i am happy playing the fun wars and i just cannot simply deal with the drama H2O and you will bring back to this game me? when did i ever play unfairly as a player? when was i biased as an admin? remember you've already tried using the biased admin argument and you were completely wrong, so either think carefully about your argument, or admit you're wrong on this. ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 18:56 last thing i attack your choices you have made because i feel they were wrong and when u pm'd me to explain and then i explained what i thought about it you started to attack me, call names and lose your temper( i did not attack you for your views so why you do it to me?) this is a euphemism for pointing out the fact that everything you said was wrong. you can either admit it or you can try twisting words around to put someone else at fault... but when you do that you only make yourself look worse. that's a lesson simpee's never learned, maybe you're a bit smarter? we'll see, i guess. ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 18:56 you seem to think im doing this for simpee but im not which is why i did not fight with you on the pointsfix topic but how you reacted to the topic is what is questionable and everybody on clanwars has said the same "how i reacted to the topic"? give specifics, please. what topic, how did i react and why was it "questionable"?
lol liquid instead of just replying with your usual whining you could of showed me where i "flamed" you? I dont exactly know what you call flaming someone but im pretty sure that in my and nearly everyone else's book, i never flamed you to begin with, and even if i did, i dont see why zell suddenly had to jump in?
Spoony wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 21:05 ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 18:56 i think this was way before the urgent problems since i seem to remember you backing wiskey on quite a few things cause even though you was there you did not play games( excuse me if im wrong about this i do not know exactly when you had the urgent problem) but i believe wiskey was admin long before this happened if im wrong then just disregard what im saying cause i did not play so much while wiskey was an admin( due to him being so unfair)im a little hazey on the time it is true that whiskey was an admin for some time when i was still around, but during that time i did keep an eye on him and other than halo i would call him the best renadmin i recruited. if anyone else would have done a better job, perhaps they should have expressed an interest in it. ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 18:56 as for the 2nd question i do not know how to buy a league and was never interested in buying 1 yes, i've asked that question several times and the answer is always along these lines, if they dare answer at all... not interested, not worth my time/money/trouble. and yet when someone actually does have the time/money/trouble... myself, whiskey... we get nothing but backchat and ballache from people who could host a league but don't think the community is worth the effort. never forget that because when you've said your very worst about my admin-ness, or even whiskey's, that fact automatically beats it. ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 18:56 lately i have been playing fun wars and im happy playing them but i dont appreciate you lying about me saying i do not want to play in your league because of pointsfix did i mention you specifically? i think the only people i mentioned by name about their reasons for not playing in the league are simpee and clearshot. in both cases i went to the trouble of specifically examining the reasons they gave. ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 18:56 just to clear them up the reasons are i do not agree with quite a few things about where ur going with this league so i choose not to play it, i am happy playing the fun wars and i just cannot simply deal with the drama H2O and you will bring back to this game me? when did i ever play unfairly as a player? when was i biased as an admin? remember you've already tried using the biased admin argument and you were completely wrong, so either think carefully about your argument, or admit you're wrong on this. ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 18:56 last thing i attack your choices you have made because i feel they were wrong and when u pm'd me to explain and then i explained what i thought about it you started to attack me, call names and lose your temper( i did not attack you for your views so why you do it to me?) this is a euphemism for pointing out the fact that everything you said was wrong. you can either admit it or you can try twisting words around to put someone else at fault... but when you do that you only make yourself look worse. that's a lesson simpee's never learned, maybe you're a bit smarter? we'll see, i guess. ZeLL wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 18:56 you seem to think im doing this for simpee but im not which is why i did not fight with you on the pointsfix topic but how you reacted to the topic is what is questionable and everybody on clanwars has said the same "how i reacted to the topic"? give specifics, please. what topic, how did i react and why was it "questionable"? if you look earlier in this topic you mentioned simpee and zell won't play just because of the pointsfix it may be clear and simpees reason but it is not mine i never meant you was unfair as a player i meant there is absolutely no way everybody is going to agree with decisions you make not just now but in the future and i would not like to have to deal with it so id rather not just get involved in the first place i'm going to admit i was infact wrong on maybe 1 part of my PM but still that is no excuse at all to lose your temper especially after i admitted maybe i saw it differently to you only person who was trying to twist things about was you how you've reacted is by acting like a baby and you ended up whining about why people wont defend you etc and you've gone onto other communities forums and still gone on about your view of what simpee and clear did when clear hasnt bothered posting about it and simpees replies are nothing to do with that topic which happened a month ago only posting pointsfix related posts it was fine a while ago but people just dont want to hear about it anymore cause all you ever did was keep repeating it over and over again it would be nice if you listened to what you said and would just drop it and move on with your league rather then continue to argue
wow hitman that must be the biggest pussy-out ive ever seen considering ur first few posts
ZeLL wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 06:07 if you look earlier in this topic you mentioned simpee and zell won't play just because of the pointsfix it may be clear and simpees reason but it is not mine this is true, i think i meant to say clear instead of zell... oh well, i concede the point and appreciate the correction. ZeLL wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 06:07 i never meant you was unfair as a player i meant there is absolutely no way everybody is going to agree with decisions you make not just now but in the future and i would not like to have to deal with it so id rather not just get involved in the first place ah, so you'd rather play somewhere where there ISN'T anybody looking out for fairplay at all? ZeLL wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 06:07 how you've reacted is by acting like a baby and you ended up whining about why people wont defend you etc i think you totally missed the point. i wasn't whining, i was posting a pretty serious critique of the clanwars community. they have a couple of pointpushers and rulebreakers going out of their way to stab an honest, fair player in the back who's done them nothing but favours, you have them telling lie after lie after lie to try to make them look bad... and people say nothing about this, indeed they criticise *me* for defending myself. and if people say they're defending clear and simpee because they're under the impression (or misapprehension, in my view) that they're fair and honest players, then it's a pretty good question to ask why they didn't defend me when i was the one under attack, since my reputation of honesty and fairplay is better than clear and simpee's added together, and since what was being said about me was nothing more than a bunch of outright lies (whereas what i said against clear and simpee was true) ZeLL wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 06:07 and you've gone onto other communities forums and still gone on about your view of what simpee and clear did for starters, what they did was ON ANOTHER COMMUNITY'S FORUM, so don't act like this is a strong argument.
Spoony wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 09:26 ZeLL wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 06:07 if you look earlier in this topic you mentioned simpee and zell won't play just because of the pointsfix it may be clear and simpees reason but it is not mine this is true, i think i meant to say clear instead of zell... oh well, i concede the point and appreciate the correction. ZeLL wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 06:07 i never meant you was unfair as a player i meant there is absolutely no way everybody is going to agree with decisions you make not just now but in the future and i would not like to have to deal with it so id rather not just get involved in the first place ah, so you'd rather play somewhere where there ISN'T anybody looking out for fairplay at all? ZeLL wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 06:07 how you've reacted is by acting like a baby and you ended up whining about why people wont defend you etc i think you totally missed the point. i wasn't whining, i was posting a pretty serious critique of the clanwars community. they have a couple of pointpushers and rulebreakers going out of their way to stab an honest, fair player in the back who's done them nothing but favours, you have them telling lie after lie after lie to try to make them look bad... and people say nothing about this, indeed they criticise *me* for defending myself. and if people say they're defending clear and simpee because they're under the impression (or misapprehension, in my view) that they're fair and honest players, then it's a pretty good question to ask why they didn't defend me when i was the one under attack, since my reputation of honesty and fairplay is better than clear and simpee's added together, and since what was being said about me was nothing more than a bunch of outright lies (whereas what i said against clear and simpee was true) ZeLL wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 06:07 and you've gone onto other communities forums and still gone on about your view of what simpee and clear did for starters, what they did was ON ANOTHER COMMUNITY'S FORUM, so don't act like this is a strong argument. no i meant drama involving pretty much like this, involving you making a decision which the community doesnt share and then there ends up being a huge fight on the forums and now your missing my point you have said what you needed to say about them breaking the rules but there was in all honesty no reason to keep repeating it mike simply stated he thought the league wouldnt be a proper league without simpee and clear as competition and he didnt think they should be considered cheaters and he just wanted the arguing to stop in the end you started wondering why he was defending them when all he was stating was an opinion which most people share on the forums, that they feel the league would infact be better off with these 2 as competition regardless of what they have done you saw it as some kind of defense and started moaning about why no one defended you as for this topic thing the topic was being argued on the jelly forums then eventually everybody seemed to have got tired of reading same stuff over and over again and gave up on it but now if you look you will find it is on clanwars.cc it is on exodus and it is on this forum( all this happened on the jelly forums yet you have continually put what happened in that topic on each of these forums and maybe more i havent checked any others). i just find it ridiculous and childish to keep going on about it and i dont think an admin should really keep doing what you are doing
ZeLL wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 08:44 no i meant drama involving pretty much like this, involving you making a decision which the community doesnt share and then there ends up being a huge fight on the forums Which decision? They're all up for civilised debate. Go check the clanwars forums; some decisions are actually be affected by the debates... skins, for example. ZeLL wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 08:44 and now your missing my point you have said what you needed to say about them breaking the rules but there was in all honesty no reason to keep repeating it It's very hard to take this seriously when you've said nothing bad against clear and simpee. They "kept repeating it" too... at least what I said was actually true. ZeLL wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 08:44 mike simply stated he thought the league wouldnt be a proper league without simpee and clear as competition and he didnt think they should be considered cheaters and he just wanted the arguing to stop Check the thread again... once again it was up to me to be the better man. I dropped it and said they can both play in the league so long as they try playing fairly and abiding by the rules... this is in spite of everything they've done. ZeLL wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 08:44 in the end you started wondering why he was defending them when all he was stating was an opinion which most people share on the forums, that they feel the league would infact be better off with these 2 as competition regardless of what they have done you saw it as some kind of defense and started moaning about why no one defended you read what i just said about this, it's very simple. ZeLL wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 08:44 but now if you look you will find it is on clanwars.cc it is on exodus and it is on this forum( all this happened on the jelly forums yet you have continually put what happened in that topic on each of these forums and maybe more i havent checked any others). clanwars? it seems like it belongs on clanwars. jelly? clear and simpee started their ridiculous campaign of lies there, not me. exodus? some other players brought it up, i just answered their questions. and here seems like a fairly appropriate place to mention it too, since we're talking about revitalising the league. anyway, what's your huge objection to me talking about this? is it because it totally humiliates your friends? people post all sorts of ridiculous crap to flame me all the time, i don't see you complaining about that. ZeLL wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 08:44 i just find it ridiculous and childish to keep going on about it and i dont think an admin should really keep doing what you are doing taking a hard line against people like clear and simpee? defending himself against false accusations? i think that's exactly what an admin should be doing.
we both have different views on how an admin should move on you find continually making them out to be liars cheaters etc in every communities forums. i think you should just answer and then leave it since you already said you successfully made your point and prooved them to be liars etc there is really no need to emphasize on it and continue on 3 other different forums about it my objection with this is rather then wasting your time repeating what you've said on other community forums and you can't say you was the bigger man and dropped it when there is posts on other forums STILL going on about it but i would like to see you concentrate on making the league active again because i would like to see clanwars being played actively again i think all that arguing and you repeating yourself over and over again did more damage then it did any good for the league and everybody in the topic seemed to see it but you you may think differently but others(including me) believe it may have lured people away from the league
ELiT3FLyR wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 08:06 wow hitman that must be the biggest pussy-out ive ever seen considering ur first few posts im leaving things to my twin brother spoony now, he's even worse!1
ZeLL wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 10:24 we both have different views on how an admin should move on you find continually making them out to be liars cheaters etc in every communities forums. i think you should just answer and then leave it since you already said you successfully made your point and prooved them to be liars etc there is really no need to emphasize on it and continue on 3 other different forums about it my objection with this is rather then wasting your time repeating what you've said on other community forums and you can't say you was the bigger man and dropped it when there is posts on other forums STILL going on about it but i would like to see you concentrate on making the league active again because i would like to see clanwars being played actively again i think all that arguing and you repeating yourself over and over again did more damage then it did any good for the league and everybody in the topic seemed to see it but you you may think differently but others(including me) believe it may have lured people away from the league here's why nothing you say can be taken seriously. you wanna talk about driving players away from the league? how about me? the first few times people asked me to come back to the league, i didn't want to. i thought the community wasn't worth my time. ask td, bluelabel, hitman... i eventually reconsidered because i thought there might be enough players in the league to make it worthwhile, and i thought i could return the league to something approaching its status 2-3 years ago when i was in charge, i.e. very fair and approachable. then i see shit like what clear and simpee tried to do. they tried to drive me away; me, whose reputation for fairplay and honesty is far better than theirs, who's at least comparable skill-wise (i won't assert that i'm better than simpee because he's made it plain how hurtful he finds that), and bonus, the only person with the dedication to run a clan league for so long. and here's the thing: YOU HAVE NEVER CRITICISED WHAT THEY DID. this is why i can't take you seriously. you can be judged not only by what you say, but by what you don't say. you can tell someone's priorities not just by what they criticise, but what they obviously don't care about (if not actually approve of) if anyone tries whingeing about a fair, skilled player being harrassed out of the league, but they DIDN'T say anything about what clear and simpee tried to do to me, they just can't be taken seriously.
drive you away? you mean the fact you told the jelly community that you think we should only get half the ladder because were not using your pointsfix? if so then obviously some people are going to take that badly cause people like simpee etc obviously hate the pointsfix maybe they didnt have to bring shit up which happened in the past to try and disencourage people to play it(i agree maybe it was a bit too much) but still its obviously clear you intimidate them because of how ridiculously far you go to get this points fix on every server( you can't say you didnt try disencouraging people to play in jelly because they would only get half the ladder then in a pointsfix server) your both as bad as the other in this regard if anything each of you is trying to drive away the other
ZeLL wrote on Wed, 28 October 2009 07:58 drive you away? you mean the fact you told the jelly community that you think we should only get half the ladder because were not using your pointsfix? Firstly it's not 'my' pointsfix. Secondly this is a compromise over the original position, which was to not allow pointsbug servers to be laddered at all. The ladder weighting system is, I think, a good idea. Some server settings are clearly more strategic than others; do you not agree that a server with 0 start credits is more strategic than one with 9999 start credits? So we came up with a weighting system. eg if donate is on then that's -20%, another -10% if weapon drops are on, etc. Pointsfix makes the game more strategic in so many ways (even most of the anti-pointsfix crowd have conceded this) so what's wrong with giving that a positive weight on the ladder? Everyone generally agreed that the weighting system itself was a good idea, but they couldn't stand the idea of the pointsfix being one of the criteria, even though the very same people (for the most part) had already conceded that the pointsfix is fairer and more strategic than the pointsbug. ZeLL wrote on Wed, 28 October 2009 07:58 if so then obviously some people are going to take that badly cause people like simpee etc obviously hate the pointsfix maybe they didnt have to bring shit up which happened in the past to try and disencourage people to play it(i agree maybe it was a bit too much) Change the word "bring" for "make" and you're nearer the mark. ZeLL wrote on Wed, 28 October 2009 07:58 but still its obviously clear you intimidate them because of how ridiculously far you go to get this points fix on every server( you can't say you didnt try disencouraging people to play in jelly because they would only get half the ladder then in a pointsfix server) your both as bad as the other in this regard if anything each of you is trying to drive away the other No, I was trying to make the official ladder as fair as possible, to make it actually worth something. And don't go saying simpee and I are "both as bad as the other". I'm absolutely fine with a community choosing not to use the pointsfix. Really, I am. Simpee has said many times that I should not be allowed to use the pointsfix in my community. Not only that but when I wanted to use the pointsfix first time around, he was part of a campaign of lies and manipulation and sabotage to subvert the admin's decision. No, don't go saying we're both as bad as each other.
u are the one who argued for 30 pages+ on jelly forums, and i am the one who told u to lock the topic on clanwars. im fine with u using pointfix on ur league its just a shame u choose to isolate like 6 or 7 people when thats 2-3 clans right there
Quote: if so then obviously some people are going to take that badly cause people like simpee etc obviously hate the pointsfix maybe they didnt have to bring shit up which happened in the past to try and disencourage people to play it dont tell me u really believe that, spoony was the one who bought up clears pointpushing 4 years ago and started the whos better argument aswell. he then continued it on the clanwars forum because he got all pissy when clear kicked him from ts. i wouldnt even have to try and sabotage his league because his non-stop essays of nothingness and hitmans tough guy act do a pretty good job of driving new players away already. its just like this topic really, a post about the league is made, liquid disagrees with something or other, spoony begins to essay, hitman jumps in tells liquid to stfu and maintaines the bad clanwars reputation. the sad thing is you keep blaming me and clear for this kinda shit when i didnt post until hitman directly attacks me. and still here you are aruging with zell(who u also dragged into this) and being unable to move on or ignore his post, and further reinforcing the fact that clanwars is made up of a bunch of retards.
ELiT3FLyR wrote on Wed, 28 October 2009 15:46 u are the one who argued for 30 pages+ on jelly forums I'm the one who actually posted my ideas about the ladder and defended my position; wasn't me who turned into personal attacks and lying to make the other person look bad. ELiT3FLyR wrote on Wed, 28 October 2009 15:46 and i am the one who told u to lock the topic on clanwars. Of course you did, you'd already been completely humiliated on jelly and you probably suspected you'd have even less luck at clanwars. ELiT3FLyR wrote on Wed, 28 October 2009 15:46 im fine with u using pointfix on ur league Cool, that's a complete reversal of everything you've ever said on the subject. I'm glad to hear that. ELiT3FLyR wrote on Wed, 28 October 2009 15:46 dont tell me u really believe that, spoony was the one who bought up clears pointpushing 4 years ago yes, in rebuttal to personal attacks from clearshot. and you've never really stopped bringing up h2o supposedly pointpushing in the same month, have you? you even lied to everyone (again) to try to implicate me in it. ELiT3FLyR wrote on Wed, 28 October 2009 15:46 and started the whos better argument aswell. totally untrue, you're the one who originally used this. I wouldn't base my argument on this, because -a- I don't need to, I've got enough evidence and logic on my side anyway, and -b- if I did, don't you think I'd be saying it to almost everybody instead of just you? ELiT3FLyR wrote on Wed, 28 October 2009 15:46 he then continued it on the clanwars forum because he got all pissy when clear kicked him from ts. wow lol... you're trying to paint me as the bad guy for pointing out how gay clearshot was acting AGAIN after i did absolutely nothing wrong to him.
QQ more Zell ya little drama queen, and nice ReneEssays. November 2009 and your still fightin' the cause, lol. All the lies you are telling about me is pretty ridiculous... I can't believe how personal you take this old game. I was an admin of clanwars during some of the busiest periods of the manual league. You have no idea when I was an admin. While I was admin, I'd like to add, I was 100% fair and never biased. I was watched like a hawk (since I was a competitor as well) by Spoony, and a lot of the community had guessed I was an admin so they also watched my decisions closely. You can bet your ass that if I ever made a decision that favoured H2O, there would of been an uproar, a 25+ page flamewar thread, and Spoony would of fired me quickly. I was never accused of biased judgements as an admin. I filed all the AR's/Am's, set up the First 2 Fives, and did my job. Your welcome you ungrateful punk. The league died when SMAK forums got shutdown... it had nothing to do with me. Go look at the Hall of Champions and you can see when the league suddenly died. I've played 2500 manual league clanwars myself, and h2o has played 4600... I'd like to think I played a big part in keeping the clanwar league running as long as it did.
Is the site going to be back up at anytime soon?
Tiesto wrote on Wed, 04 November 2009 17:08 Is the site going to be back up at anytime soon? This. ^ We are having a tough time adding people to the roster since the site has been down 24/7 since the start of the new league.
poor nerds from the halo league are ddosing it this is what Shortbus (cw.cc website owner) posted a while ago: http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=524776 sad...
BLûεl4βêL wrote on Thu, 05 November 2009 07:15 poor nerds from the halo league are ddosing it this is what Shortbus (cw.cc website owner) posted a while ago: http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=524776 sad... How is a post from august relevant
continuation of the same problem i currently have two plans in motion, if either of them works out then the problem will be solved... that's all i'll say for now.
try using that when u play blue and u might not lose everygame
try not to live in front of your PC simpee, you might get a girlfriend and some color on your skin
hahahha see those kinda comments dont work from a) people who were bullied by SS for the exact same reasons(hitman) or b)people who spend time making renegade videos and guides that dont help anyone
and hey, i was jus giving u advice on how to play. dont be such a dumb fuck and u might win games
fuck your advice, just take mine L!OL. p.s. lol @ bringing up other ppl, ur such an angry little nerd p.p.s. bullied? what are you, some e-bully? LOL
lol I love the 'you have no life arguments', usually the people that get so p'd off are the ones who really have nothing, thus it hurts...
ELiT3FLyR wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 11:10 hahahha see those kinda comments dont work from a) people who were bullied by SS for the exact same reasons(hitman) or b)people who spend time making renegade videos and guides that dont help anyone LOL im not even going to get in this again however i'd like to see a pic L!oL
well heres simpees picture:
Holy shit, why did no one tell me about this thread...these fuckboys are even dropping my name like they want some! I can't put into words how warm and fuzzy this discussion makes me. I don't think any of you assholes will disagree with me when I say that we can all remember several occasions where we argued/flamed just for the sake of arguing/flaming and the drama was one of the reasons why we stuck with this game for so long. What up Wiskey, you will always be a snake to me, but your girl isn't ugly and I should've never went there...I come across as some kind of community boogyman in this thread, but that's the only time I broke my flaming ethics code. My other targets should really be able to laugh about this stuff in hindsight... I've never seen pics of Hitman, Zell or Simpee ...even though I once acted like Darkoli send me Simpee's pic and flamed him for it lmao
lol you all look stupid to anyone reading this topic other then you
Tiesto wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 07:10 Nice logical post there. sup maka, how's the cheating going?
and real name
SSADMVR wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 21:48 oh, maka used to have the same nick Yes, i've had that quite a few times, now. I had this nick on gsa. Thats where he got it from. Spoony wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 21:59 and the same city and IP range And that. raven wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 22:24 and real name And that. Wish i'd not bothered changing back from Acey tbh.
Tiesto wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 23:12 SSADMVR wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 21:48 oh, maka used to have the same nick Yes, i've had that quite a few times, now. I had this nick on gsa. Thats where he got it from. Spoony wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 21:59 and the same city and IP range And that. raven wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 22:24 and real name And that. Wish i'd not bothered changing back from Acey tbh. on another note go sky broadband, woot woot
Dude WHAT is going on in this topic.
Tunaman wrote on Tue, 01 December 2009 01:30 Dude WHAT is going on in this topic. awesomeness?
RMCool13 wrote on Tue, 01 December 2009 11:21 Tunaman wrote on Tue, 01 December 2009 01:30 Dude WHAT is going on in this topic. awesomeness? This. ^ I just read over this again, imo, hall of fame worthy.
Dover wrote on Tue, 01 December 2009 12:35 This shit sux. have to agree, this isnt hof worthy at all, so im turning to more important things: HI TUNAMAN!!<3