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Queenhunter's skin release political part - split
I don't want to drag st0rm though the mud, but aren't you the person who posted a SS with a cheat on it as a "skin demonstration" before? This topic, First and second post say it all
Re: [Skins] St0rm GDI Vehicles Collection
CarrierII wrote on Mon, 24 August 2009 14:11 I don't want to drag st0rm though the mud, but aren't you the person who posted a SS with a cheat on it as a "skin demonstration" before? This topic, First and second post say it all LOL I remember this.
He could have at least changed his name so I'd have had to, you know, click on some of the moderator tools to discover his IP probably matched...
CarrierII wrote on Mon, 24 August 2009 21:51 He could have at least changed his name so I'd have had to, you know, click on some of the moderator tools to discover his IP probably matched... Does it matter? Unless he's banned from forums anyway, i don't see why it matters whether he wants to post skins. (And also provided the zip contains only skins and nothing else ) @Queen: Didn't watch the whole vid, but the skins I did see looked good.
Altzan wrote on Mon, 24 August 2009 15:11 CarrierII wrote on Mon, 24 August 2009 21:51 He could have at least changed his name so I'd have had to, you know, click on some of the moderator tools to discover his IP probably matched... Does it matter? Unless he's banned from forums anyway, i don't see why it matters whether he wants to post skins. (And also provided the zip contains only skins and nothing else ) @Queen: Didn't watch the whole vid, but the skins I did see looked good. Agreed. @CarrierII: Don't post sh-t that's not relevant and is a blatant attempt to derail the topic. A mod should know better. :/ @Queen: Nice skins. Very shiny and nice.
just to point out, if it was a "queen" screenshot, he would have the TS overlay... http://www.st0rm.net/forum/showpost.php?p=52584&postcount=1 so yeah, just because you see someone post a SS dont assume it was taken by that person. P.S...Nice Skins mate.
DaJoXTeR wrote on Tue, 25 August 2009 04:25 just to point out, if it was a "queen" screenshot, he would have the TS overlay... http://www.st0rm.net/forum/showpost.php?p=52584&postcount=1 so yeah, just because you see someone post a SS dont assume it was taken by that person. P.S...Nice Skins mate. You could bother reading the link thread next time. He could have also changed his style from last time we have seen him here. My logic is valid, where as yours is flawed.
DaJoXTeR wrote on Tue, 25 August 2009 11:25 just to point out, if it was a "queen" screenshot, he would have the TS overlay... http://www.st0rm.net/forum/showpost.php?p=52584&postcount=1 so yeah, just because you see someone post a SS dont assume it was taken by that person. P.S...Nice Skins mate. And that's the logic of St0rm/DWC mods? LOL
I've been refraining from posting about this, but now i feel i must point out some things... 1. this thread is supposed to be about a skin pack. 2. it was a PEACE offering that there are no hard feeling toward renforums from queen. 3. he has always used Teamspeak overlay in his skin screenshots. 4. whether Dajoxter's logic is flawed or not doesn't mean yours is perfect. Teamspeak Overlay is not shown in the aforementioned screenshots, so you could also be wrong. I do not defend him because i think he's clean, but because you all can't get past being an asshole to everyone who is different than you. Anyway, I love this vehicle pack and (though I'm not a mod on renforums) I would like to see people stay on topic regardless their opinion of Queen's gameplay cleanliness. By the way Goztow: if I'm not mistaken it's illegal to post people's full IP addresses to the public. If i see it's not edited away i will report it.
I somewhat concur with Black Dragon. Queenhunter has been around the Renz0r community quite a bit, friendly guy, and although his skins aren't amazing, he's doing a good job. He posts his skins again and barely anyone notices the work, they're too busy flaming the person. As Dragon pretty much said, I'm not defending him because I think he's not a cheater, I'm unsure about that, but I'm defending him because he's a friendly guy who's posting his skins for us. So as the Moderators should actually be enforcing, can we stay on-topic? This is a skin thread, not a "OMG QUEENHUNTER HAX!" thread.
It has been the precedent on these forums to identify any individual who cheated* and post links to the evidence. This has been the case since these forums started, and has been going on, normally in the server owners subofurm for ages. In the occasional case where someone decides to bust themselves cheating*, the forum populace has normally responded in this fashion, given that St0rm were obviously not aware of his previous cheating*, I decided to post a link to that topic, as I imagined a St0rm community member would check this topic, given as it has their community's name in the title and is (hopfully) therefore endorsed by them. In short, I was making them aware of what the person who posted something endorsed by them had done. (* Yes, I've no solid proof that he actually used *cough* online, but the evidence isn't exactly on his side - having said that, I helped a moderator in a community I was involved with make a tutorial on testing suspected cheaters (way back before RG became commonplace) - thus, there are screenshots of me cheating in certain private subforums... I guess it's down to who you beleive)
Quote: 1. this thread is supposed to be about a skin pack. Might be true, but those are his only thread(s). Quote: 2. it was a PEACE offering that there are no hard feeling toward renforums from queen. And that's something we should accept? His basically blaming us, while he should blame himself. Even still denying it was him cheating. Quote: 3. he has always used Teamspeak overlay in his skin screenshots. Wrong. I can show you some archived screenshots of him without. Quote: 4. whether Dajoxter's logic is flawed or not doesn't mean yours is perfect. Teamspeak Overlay is not shown in the aforementioned screenshots, so you could also be wrong. Wrong again. Basically everyone can change clothes they wear every day. You can also do this in the "virtual world", changing apps and skins/mods you run/use every day. Also read my answer @ 3. Quote: Queen's gameplay cleanliness Got any proof of that? Only Queen himself now would know if he cheats nowdays or not, because he probably won't make the same mistake twice.
DutchNeon wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 23:04 Quote: Queen's gameplay cleanliness Got any proof of that? Only Queen himself now would know if he cheats nowdays or not, because he probably won't make the same mistake twice. Exactly, so I could be cheating nowadays. So could you. Unless there's some DEFINATE proof he cheats online, can we please stop this debate? It's rather annoying. Let's just comment on his skins, please.
Re: Queenhunter's skin release political part - split
Split the more political part to the heated discussions subforum as it is indeed not on topic and became a bit "heated".
Dreganius wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 15:12 DutchNeon wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 23:04 Quote: Queen's gameplay cleanliness Got any proof of that? Only Queen himself now would know if he cheats nowdays or not, because he probably won't make the same mistake twice. Exactly, so I could be cheating nowadays. So could you. Unless there's some DEFINATE proof he cheats online, can we please stop this debate? It's rather annoying. Let's just comment on his skins, please. There is DEFINATE proof of Queen cheating in the past with RGH. *cheat name removed*can be turned off, and basically any1 that has *cheat name removed*on while taking screenshots for skins has *cheat name removed*on as a habit; not noticing the yellow words in the corner. Now he won't make the same mistake twice. The thing that makes him a worthy suspect in my eyes, is that he still denies everything. He went away from the Forums, and got back. He basically blames us for everything, and he still denies it was him cheating. Now you are right about the possibilities of everyone cheating, but I wouldn't trust on that until cheat history screenshots are shown, or recent busts by BIATCH/mods with good proof, or recent "mistakes" like Queen did with his screenshot. But yeah, he could still be cheating, or not. No1 knows except himself, and I'll agree with your point. Heck, I even got banned numerous times from the Gz0ne server, and once from Jelly for RGH. I had my proof though that I didn't cheated at those times. Often "Fraps proof"; luckily getting banned in a match while running Fraps and recording everything from your eyes. The only unban that was based on "trust" was me getting banned by BIATCH for having a different warhead and damage with an APC (Volt damage and warhead for the M60 of the Nod APC). This ban happened when BIATCH was just released. This could have been a lag flaw or some other issue, but I was glad that Adad trusted me as I had no proof whatsoever of me not cheating, besides my words of what happened. I used the Volt rifle just before I got in the APC as the driver and started shooting a bit.
Ok, I didn't want to get re-involved again, but if you have any hard evidence against him, then provide it now or all you guys are saying is just your word vs. his. The players of St0rm have played with him with no suspicion of cheats. We know who's cheating in our servers.
@DutchNeon: If you read it more carefully, you would have seen that I am NOT trying to vouch for how clean Queen's gameplay is. I am merely trying to get you and other people to try looking at this issue from a perspective other than your own. The fact that TSO is not in the screenshot makes it POSSIBLE that anyone who has a Dell computer (and some of Queen's skins) could have taken the ss. Plus, to say that your logic is perfect is completely laughable. Nobody's logic is perfect. Finally: Stop trying to make it seem as though I'm vehemently opposed to the thought that he could cheat. I never said he was clean, I just never said he cheated either. @CarrierII: St0rm's mods have been aware of the so-called "guilty" screenshots since they were posted. We do not ban for cheats at St0rm unless we have undeniable proof that a suspect is cheating in a St0rm server.
Zack wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 19:56 Ok, I didn't want to get re-involved again, but if you have any hard evidence against him, then provide it now or all you guys are saying is just your word vs. his. The players of St0rm have played with him with no suspicion of cheats. We know who's cheating in our servers. Meh. Like I said, He might not be that dumb now, and he might use *cheat name removed*carefully, or he doesn't cheat anymore at all. The thing that makes Queen still look like a retard is his denying of his past. @ BlackDragonOfDarkness, Read IAmFenix's post...
DutchNeon wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 10:59 Zack wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 19:56 Ok, I didn't want to get re-involved again, but if you have any hard evidence against him, then provide it now or all you guys are saying is just your word vs. his. The players of St0rm have played with him with no suspicion of cheats. We know who's cheating in our servers. Meh. Like I said, He might not be that dumb now, and he might use *cheat name removed*carefully, or he doesn't cheat anymore at all. The thing that makes Queen still look like a retard is his denying of his past. So, You're just spouting your mouth off without providing evidence other than a screenshot which doesn't prove it is him? Biased much or are you just keeping even with rene-politics?
Zack wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 14:06 DutchNeon wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 10:59 Zack wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 19:56 Ok, I didn't want to get re-involved again, but if you have any hard evidence against him, then provide it now or all you guys are saying is just your word vs. his. The players of St0rm have played with him with no suspicion of cheats. We know who's cheating in our servers. Meh. Like I said, He might not be that dumb now, and he might use *cheat name removed*carefully, or he doesn't cheat anymore at all. The thing that makes Queen still look like a retard is his denying of his past. So, You're just spouting your mouth off without providing evidence other than a screenshot which doesn't prove it is him? Biased much or are you just keeping even with rene-politics?
St0rm logic, like I said Quote: You could bother reading the link thread next time. http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&th=32779&prevloaded=1& rid=20637&start=0 Should I quote all my posts their?
DutchNeon wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 11:10 St0rm logic, like I said Quote: You could bother reading the link thread next time. http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&th=32779&prevloaded=1& rid=20637&start=0 Should I quote all my posts their? Zack wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 11:06 So, You're just spouting your mouth off without providing evidence other than a screenshot which doesn't prove it is him?
Zack wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 14:06 DutchNeon wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 10:59 Zack wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 19:56 Ok, I didn't want to get re-involved again, but if you have any hard evidence against him, then provide it now or all you guys are saying is just your word vs. his. The players of St0rm have played with him with no suspicion of cheats. We know who's cheating in our servers. Meh. Like I said, He might not be that dumb now, and he might use *cheat name removed*carefully, or he doesn't cheat anymore at all. The thing that makes Queen still look like a retard is his denying of his past. So, You're just spouting your mouth off without providing evidence other than a screenshot which doesn't prove it is him? Biased much or are you just keeping even with rene-politics? Many of his screenshots before he posted the ss with the rgh.1.3.3 have the same skins as the one with the rgh.1.3.3. It's also pretty clear he was cheating online, I don't think anyone would fire up rgh.1.3.3 just to take a picture of their skins.
Zack wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 20:13 DutchNeon wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 11:10 St0rm logic, like I said Quote: You could bother reading the link thread next time. http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&th=32779&prevloaded=1& rid=20637&start=0 Should I quote all my posts their? Zack wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 11:06 So, You're just spouting your mouth off without providing evidence other than a screenshot which doesn't prove it is him? Read the all the posts (everyone's) in the linked thread. Otherwise, I might aswell ignore your posts if you are going to say (quote) the same thing over and over.
The name used in the said screenshots is "DELL" which means it could be anyone. Also note the player count is 1 which means it's a LAN game. "DELL" could be anyone as it's the name of a computer manufacturer and the default computer name (I think? haven't owned a dell machine in ages) so... It's not solid evidence that it is in fact queenhunter cheating. But I guess you guys are stubborn and won't see any other side to a story anyway. No use arguing with idiots who are one-sided in an issue.
There's no solid evidence, there never is with *cheat name removed*... But it's good enough for me to believe he's cheating.
DutchNeon wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 11:19 Zack wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 20:13 DutchNeon wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 11:10 St0rm logic, like I said Quote: You could bother reading the link thread next time. http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&th=32779&prevloaded=1& rid=20637&start=0 Should I quote all my posts their? Zack wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 11:06 So, You're just spouting your mouth off without providing evidence other than a screenshot which doesn't prove it is him? Read the all the posts (everyone's) in the linked thread. Otherwise, I might aswell ignore your posts if you are going to say (quote) the same thing over and over. Double post, but you replied as I was replying to Baker's comment... The comments in posted link is basically stating what you're stating here. The screenshot is not conclusive evidence you say it is in your posts. Goztow wrote on Mon, 13 April 2009 07:17 If you're oh so innocent, maybe u can tell us who this Dell dude is, then? Exactly what pawky said in that post and what I said above. The posts you asked me to read don't say anything else other than what's already been stated in this thread.
Zack wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 14:19 The name used in the said screenshots is "DELL" which means it could be anyone. Also note the player count is 1 which means it's a LAN game. "DELL" could be anyone as it's the name of a computer manufacturer and the default computer name (I think? haven't owned a dell machine in ages) so... It's not solid evidence that it is in fact queenhunter cheating. But I guess you guys are stubborn and won't see any other side to a story anyway. No use arguing with idiots who are one-sided in an issue. Oh my god did you even read my post. In lan games the name of the computer is used as the playername, alongside this with the fact that there are several skins that match up with ones in ss's he posted before, and that no one in their right mind would go and give someone a skin, have them takes screenshots of it, then have them give the screenshots to you just to post them on renforums, it's pretty much queenhunter. I also think he admitted to cheating sometime after the post.
Zack wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 20:19 The name used in the said screenshots is "DELL" which means it could be anyone. Also note the player count is 1 which means it's a LAN game. "DELL" could be anyone as it's the name of a computer manufacturer and the default computer name (I think? haven't owned a dell machine in ages) so... It's not solid evidence that it is in fact queenhunter cheating. But I guess you guys are stubborn and won't see any other side to a story anyway. No use arguing with idiots who are one-sided in an issue. Like I said, read the posts... Quote 1: DutchNeon wrote on Mon, 13 April 2009 02:49 Goobers wrote on Mon, 13 April 2009 01:20 NZ wrote on Sun, 12 April 2009 18:12 From Queen i have seen nothing not even as small as a lag kill from him in game and his KD has never pointed towards being a cheater,Justification in banning a player whom posts an SS while not in your server is not justified proof, And would how ever be disappointing to see this happen at this point. This is not me sticking up for him it is my observation of him over the past 6 months while in game playing along side of him. NZ rebdog wrote on Sun, 12 April 2009 16:56 ok i think this is complete bullshit, so what he used *cheat name removed*while taking some screenshots. Like 75% of you havnt tried it on multilayer practice, just to see what it can do. 6 months or so ago i got my mate to join a server which i made with a password, so i could see what it does to learn from it. From learning what it does ive caught alot of people using it. I even tried using DH hacks on my own server to test if biatch was working. I dont see the big deal tbh. Do half you which are mods ban for evidence on other servers, no you dont. So go ban me too agreed, ive played with queen for 5months+ on several different servers, never seen or suspected anything suspicious and have had no complaints reported to me about queen by any ingame player, so what he appears to have *cheat name removed*on his computer tell me you dont, WHERES YOUR INGAME ONLINE PROOF, ill tell you were it is you dont fucking have any, good to see queens mistake has given you idiots something to talk about, but there's no way using *cheat name removed*on a private lan game is a bannable offense for online servers, do some real detective work find him cheating ingame of shut the fuck up Seriously, If you are running *cheat name removed* in a LAN game to take screenshots (with no1 else in it), it means you are utterly retarded, OR you run it everytime when starting up Ren (habit), OR you used *cheat name removed* in a public game, then switched over to a LAN game without quiting Ren. Now give me VALID reason why you need to run *cheat name removed* in a LAN game, WITHOUT any other players. WITHOUT any others players, it has NO use testing a cheat. This proof is enough proof to conclude him as a cheater. @Nz, Cheaters can also play smart while running cheating. The ppl who obviously use cheats will often get banned, but there are also ppl who safely use cheats, without getting banned. Quote 2: Scrin's Account (Banned) wrote on Sun, 12 April 2009 19:49 well, meybe i'm wrong, i dont know nothing about that [Rgjh]1.3.3. but look at his other screenshots and texture works.... his ingame nick is DELL and on first screenshot (this topic) you can see his blue-repeating walls_flying walls (the base enrance) and here his screens (same texture for buildings) http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&goto=379112&rid=24359#msg_ 379112 http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&goto=379034&rid=24359#msg_ 379034 http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&goto=379035&rid=24359#msg_ 379035 and he use same soldier's w3d replacement by Marky ''The HaRd'' is this ok? Quote 3: Goztow wrote on Sun, 12 April 2009 23:10 So his cheater "mate" Dell posed for all 4 skins . Right . Quote 4: pawkyfox wrote on Mon, 13 April 2009 16:26 Goztow wrote on Tue, 14 April 2009 00:17 If you're oh so innocent, maybe u can tell us who this Dell dude is, then? Gozy, this "DELL" is most probably the computer name that loads up during LAN play IF you choose not to type in a custom nick while setting up the game. My computer's name is "ULTRA". Whenever I want to play a singleplayer LAN game (to test skins) and click on Multiplayer LAN in the main menu, the next screen shows the field to enter in a custom nick. Unless you have changed it before, this field has the computer name by default and for me it is always ULTRA. It is always in caps. That could be the case here. EDIT: DutchNeon already mentioned this in the first page: DutchNeon wrote on Sun, 12 April 2009 13:19 Edit: I see your desktop name on the screenshot... Edit: Quoting Pawky without my Quote in his Quote...
bakerrrr wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 11:29 Zack wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 14:19 The name used in the said screenshots is "DELL" which means it could be anyone. Also note the player count is 1 which means it's a LAN game. "DELL" could be anyone as it's the name of a computer manufacturer and the default computer name (I think? haven't owned a dell machine in ages) so... It's not solid evidence that it is in fact queenhunter cheating. But I guess you guys are stubborn and won't see any other side to a story anyway. No use arguing with idiots who are one-sided in an issue. Oh my god did you even read my post. In lan games the name of the computer is used as the playername, alongside this with the fact that there are several skins that match up with ones in ss's he posted before, and that no one in their right mind would go and give someone a skin, have them takes screenshots of it, then have them give the screenshots to you just to post them on renforums, it's pretty much queenhunter. I also think he admitted to cheating sometime after the post. If you read my post after that, I agreed and said pawkyfox was correct in that linked thread. Also, if you read my post, you guys are just too stubborn and consumed with rene-politics to have any other opinion. l2mod please.
Plus: Quote: Now give me VALID reason why you need to run *cheat name removed* in a LAN game, WITHOUT any other players. WITHOUT any others players, it has NO use testing a cheat.
Goztow wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 11:33 Plus: Quote: Now give me VALID reason why you need to run *cheat name removed* in a LAN game, WITHOUT any other players. WITHOUT any others players, it has NO use testing a cheat. Can't rebut that, but it still doesn't mean you can jump to conclusions. Also, he could've used someone else's screenshot because he wanted a better detailed screenshot but didn't bother checking it? I'm going to stop repeating myself now. Like I've said, you're stubborn. Good day.
Zack wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 20:37 Goztow wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 11:33 Plus: Quote: Now give me VALID reason why you need to run *cheat name removed* in a LAN game, WITHOUT any other players. WITHOUT any others players, it has NO use testing a cheat. Can't rebut that, but it still doesn't mean you can jump to conclusions. Also, he could've used someone else's screenshot because he wanted a better detailed screenshot but didn't bother checking it? I'm going to stop repeating myself now. Like I've said, you're stubborn. Good day. Also, he could've used someone else's screenshot because he wanted a better detailed screenshot but didn't bother checking it? Doing that for all his skin releases before the "cheat" screenshot? Doubt it. Edit: Thought about this, and thus my Apology for linking "Dumb" with "St0rm" indirectly (see my "St0rm logic" post). I'm not here to make enemies, so I refrain from what I have said earlier in this topic about St0rm (staff).
wow you people have nothing better to do with your time then talk about Queen. So you got a picture, that might be his might not. He might have used it online or not. You really don't know. Have you ever played with him in game ever and been suspicious of him cheating? Have any proof other than these forums love to flame people. Ohh goodie a new thread to go and flame someone. I for one have played Renegade with Queen and I can tell you if he is using *cheat name removed*or any other kind of cheat, hes sucks as a cheater.
DarkKnight wrote on Sat, 29 August 2009 22:11 wow you people have nothing better to do with your time then talk about Queen. So you got a picture, that might be his might not. He might have used it online or not. You really don't know. Have you ever played with him in game ever and been suspicious of him cheating? Have any proof other than these forums love to flame people. Ohh goodie a new thread to go and flame someone. I for one have played Renegade with Queen and I can tell you if he is using *cheat name removed*or any other kind of cheat, hes sucks as a cheater. Does a cheater need to be good then? Cw.cc has/had been terrorized by velocity cheaters. Using a changed velocity really carefully; others will then most likely never notice it, but it gives you an advantage over other players; an unfair advantage.
R3 wishes to point out the fact that a screenshot posted by someone doesn't mean it was taken by that same person. He also wishes to point out that the reasoning behind the Queen flaming isn't because people think he is cheating, but rather because he simply posted a screenshot showing a cheat in action. Regardless of if he was the one using it or not, he is still the one who posted the screen shot. It is a well known fact that this forum's community is nothing but a group of bored trolls and lurkers who find entertainment value in other people's misfortunes. Even if Queen was to prove himself, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that he didn't cheat, it still doesn't change the fact that he is within the range of the "flaming entertainment value" the people in this forum live for.
R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 29 August 2009 23:27 R3 wishes to point out the fact that a screenshot posted by someone doesn't mean it was taken by that same person. He also wishes to point out that the reasoning behind the Queen flaming isn't because people think he is cheating, but rather because he simply posted a screenshot showing a cheat in action. Regardless of if he was the one using it or not, he is still the one who posted the screen shot. It is a well known fact that this forum's community is nothing but a group of bored trolls and lurkers who find entertainment value in other people's misfortunes. Even if Queen was to prove himself, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that he didn't cheat, it still doesn't change the fact that he is within the range of the "flaming entertainment value" the people in this forum live for. R3 wishes to point this out? Aren't you R3 or do you always talk in the 3rd person. not flaming you at all was just curious when i read that lol
R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 29 August 2009 21:27 R3 wishes to point out the fact that a screenshot posted by someone doesn't mean it was taken by that same person. We have no reason to believe otherwise besides his word, and when has a cheater ever admitted to it, even when being caught red-handed? R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 29 August 2009 21:27 Even if Queen was to prove himself, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that he didn't cheat... I'd like to see him try. I don't know how you can possibley defend him, especially after the way he's handled himself in this whole situation.
Dover wrote on Sun, 30 August 2009 01:24 R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 29 August 2009 21:27 R3 wishes to point out the fact that a screenshot posted by someone doesn't mean it was taken by that same person. We have no reason to believe otherwise besides his word, and when has a cheater ever admitted to it, even when being caught red-handed? R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 29 August 2009 21:27 Even if Queen was to prove himself, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that he didn't cheat... I'd like to see him try. I don't know how you can possibley defend him, especially after the way he's handled himself in this whole situation. because I've actually played ren with him. most of you haven't even played one game with him. your going off a screen shot that you cant even prove is his. If you had ever played Renegade with him you would know beyond doubt the man doesn't cheat.
Umm.. Dover? Did you even read my post? or what? I'm not defending anyone.. Also, R3 will post in the 3rd person if he so wishes. Even if it means going in and out of 1st and 3rd person in the same post.
My lawyer has consulted me not to express my opinions on this topic anymore, until my lawlsuit with queenhunter is finished.
DarkKnight wrote on Sat, 29 August 2009 23:27 because I've actually played ren with him. most of you haven't even played one game with him. I haven't played Renegade with a lot of famous cheaters. What's your point? DarkKnight wrote on Sat, 29 August 2009 23:27 your going off a screen shot that you cant even prove is his. He tried awfully hard to cover up the screenshot in question. It's enough to assume it's his since he posted it, and he can't offer any proof it ISN'T his. DarkKnight wrote on Sat, 29 August 2009 23:27 If you had ever played Renegade with him you would know beyond doubt the man doesn't cheat. Lol.
A quote that somewhat told us he was infact cheating. queenhunter wrote on Mon, 13 April 2009 08:43 Well, Most of u have called me an IDIOT- or a Fucking bitch. I always used renguard until less than a month ago Also I do not know cheat name removed. Also I dont cheat in games, all my stats will prove that. I try to find out how things work , As far as i am concerned, pepl I play with dont think I do and thats good enuff for me because I dont cheat in games. At least I can call them friends. Also Ive have given many pepl file name of ref cement which alters alot more than bldgs. I have reinstalled ren several times recently and dont have those skins in cuz I lost em all. Ask wiloAlso to ZACK, U screwed up not me.and I did have scripts 3.4.4 in my system. what happened I dunno. But u pepl got to get a life. U make me sick. How many of u, including mods, and admins, know how to catch a cheater unless you know the cheat? HMMM? I have caugth a few myself. those of u call me an idiot.or otherwise. u know where u can go. Ive made many skins for pepl and who knows whos using em. I send em email em post em and I get returns on those. If any 1 uses em Ill post em if not i dont. SO STFU! BTW some of u know an awful lot bout cheats? HOW? U seem to know all about how to get around it too HOW? And why after so many skins and movies and such ( if I used it so much) has it not shown up before? HMM HOW? U freeking Hypocrites. R u Mods? ru Admins? do u have a server? WHo the frak r u to call me a cheat when u dont know me never played with me? wher are u mods BITCHING about real cheats and persons on here using personal insults. GFU! Im not going to explain to each of u. I got better things to do IAmFenix wrote on Mon, 13 April 2009 13:44 He failed. We all know that, he's trying to bullshit his way out. Any mod knows about *cheat name removed* and other hacks because the have to in order to SPOT THEM. Anyone else, you can blame. Hell, when I saw *cheat name removed* at the top left corner of you're screen, I thought it was an anti cheat. But when Gozy pointed it out as a cheat, we all caught on and made accusations based on the evidence you've brought against yourself. And also, if you were making movies, maybe you made sure you turn it off, and SLIPPED UP. So don't try acting like we're the cheaters. Its you. I was a bit pissed at the time, still have shit going on IRL. Hardly play ren anymore.
R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 29 August 2009 23:27 It is a well known fact that this forum's community is nothing but a group of bored trolls and lurkers who find entertainment value in other people's misfortunes. Even if Queen was to prove himself, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that he didn't cheat, it still doesn't change the fact that he is within the range of the "flaming entertainment value" the people in this forum live for. Kinda barging in here, but i absolutely agree with this.