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As a LOT of long-time-players confirm a massiv drop of player numbers in last months + drop of fun (and I agree with this), I have to say too: soon there will be no more need for TT, because Ren is dying. May be, the split of community n00bstories/EXODUS is reducing the motivation of TT management too....
The n00bstories "drama" has nothing to do with TT and has no effect on it at all.
rrutk wrote on Wed, 12 August 2009 11:36 If u rly think this, u are naive. lol.
Crimson is probably the only member affected by the split, and she is only PR, so if anything, it explains why there are no updates.
CarrierII wrote on Wed, 12 August 2009 09:30 Crimson is probably the only member affected by the split, and she is only PR, so if anything, it explains why there are no updates. It's not like there were any updates before the split anyways.. lol
rrutk wrote on Wed, 12 August 2009 04:13 As a LOT of long-time-players confirm a massiv drop of player numbers in last months + drop of fun (and I agree with this), I have to say too: soon there will be no more need for TT, because Ren is dying. May be, the split of community n00bstories/EXODUS is reducing the motivation of TT management too.... n00bstories split? When did that happen?
That's the thing, the topic is so hush-hush, you can't even type the new community's name on here. We're getting off topic.
The big problem here is that TT is indirectly competing with Renegade-X. The Ren-X team has been incredibly forthcoming about what they're doing, and what they intend to do, as well as constant updates and communication with people within the community. Contrast that with TT's policy of keeping things on the Dee-Ell, and general lack of updates when compared to Ren-X, and you get impatience.
nikki6ixx wrote on Wed, 12 August 2009 14:55 The big problem here is that TT is indirectly competing with Renegade-X. The Ren-X team has been incredibly forthcoming about what they're doing, and what they intend to do, as well as constant updates and communication with people within the community. Contrast that with TT's policy of keeping things on the Dee-Ell, and general lack of updates when compared to Ren-X, and you get impatience. I wouldn't say it's directly or indirectly competing with us - both mods have some very different goals. We're a UT3 mod, and will probably appeal more to those who have UT3, while TT is a C&C Renegade mod and will appeal to everyone who has played Renegade. I for one will definitely be playing both as both would have a lot to offer. Though you do have a good point concerning the updates. TT needs to put up constant and official updates every month or so. I'm not talking about input from a random member and things like that, but instead, some actual news threads, podcasts, more pictures, and an official "what's done/what's left to do" list. This is the best way to keep the community tracking your progress, and keep the word spreading & hype growing about this huge C&C Renegade project. With updates, the Renegade communities and server groups have something to look forward to and a reason to keep their servers up and keep people playing longer than they normally would. Without them, people will lose hope and continue to post threads like this one.
A significant amount of people I have talked with don't believe TT will ever be completed, which is a problem because they have no hope for C&C:Renegade's future and thus stop playing it. I think if there were regular updates this wouldn't be the case.
Then again: posting about code isn't really an appealing sight either, compared to the screenshots RenX can post. IMO it's time to start wrapping up what's done and forget about what's not done for the moment. I understand this is difficult, though, due to elements not being separated from eachother.
1.) U can type the name of the new community without getting the word substituded by this silly failodus: it's exodus. There were times people got banned from this forum just for typing the name. Well, may be it will happen again *g* 2.) During the incident Crimson in persona did thought about stopping payment for her servers. n00bstories lost a lot (i would say the majority) of the old players. Ok, now some of them play there again. But it was a dramatic drop in fun, playercount, future perspective for game. So, everyone thinking such incidents will have no impact on motivation of the development team, is naive. 3.) The split of the community produces now a drop in gaming fun. A lot of the old players are now really afraid, ren is dying right now. And this is not the usual blabla about ren dying. If nothings happens rly fast, TT will come to late, if it will be released some day. If.... 4.) RenX will definitly be released and will split the rest of the community again.
raven wrote on Wed, 12 August 2009 18:24 CarrierII wrote on Wed, 12 August 2009 09:30 Crimson is probably the only member affected by the split, and she is only PR, so if anything, it explains why there are no updates. It's not like there were any updates before the split anyways.. lol QFT unfortunately. But one has to understand that there are major technical issues being worked on, which are not exactly exicting to read about nikki6ixx wrote on Wed, 12 August 2009 20:55 The big problem here is that TT is indirectly competing with Renegade-X. The Ren-X team has been incredibly forthcoming about what they're doing, and what they intend to do, as well as constant updates and communication with people within the community. Contrast that with TT's policy of keeping things on the Dee-Ell, and general lack of updates when compared to Ren-X, and you get impatience. It's not exactly policy, tbh there is no real policy on anything, except that whatever you commit to svn should be tested and should (appear to) work. Goztow wrote on Thu, 13 August 2009 08:25 Then again: posting about code isn't really an appealing sight either, compared to the screenshots RenX can post. IMO it's time to start wrapping up what's done and forget about what's not done for the moment. I understand this is difficult, though, due to elements not being separated from eachother. Because of the many rewrites (reverse enginering of asm code) and stuff it's rather hard to just release it like that. While it *might* be a little bit faster, it will then also create new bugs which could cause an even faster player decrease.
A n00bstories "split" is a really bad term to use. In truth, a very small percentage of the players stole my server nickname for my marathon server and put their own anti-NS server up (LOL), Jelly refuses to even respond to me to tell me that he let them have it (real classy). Our player count dropped (on average) 1-2% compared to the month before that but has since recovered and actually increased. We have retrained a few awesome new staff members to replaced the mods that left and now we have another new server up in another awesome game and we're only a couple of weeks away from a whole new website rebuilt from scratch. Furthermore, n00bstories donated $200 to the RGCT for prizes and much more is on the way. As for TT, whenever the guys give me something that you guys will understand, I post it. Rebuilding an outdated game engine doesn't provide much in the way of eye candy. We're trying to keep Renegade the way it was intended to be played without making drastic changes so that it can be a seamless (but awesome) migration. By design, TT can not possibly split the community in half the way that remaking the game as a mod on another engine would if it came out. Our patch HAS to be an all-or-nothing proposition. If EA makes the patch official, they will only do so if the community is on board with it. It has to be iron-clad. Now, we don't want all our hard work to go to waste, so once we have something we can start beta testing with the players, your feedback will allow us to tweak the patch and fix any bugs that might come up to make you happy, because if you're not happy, it can't come out. Hence, by design, it can't kill the community because it won't come out unless you like it.
cAmpa wrote on Wed, 12 August 2009 08:21 rrutk wrote on Wed, 12 August 2009 11:36 If u rly think this, u are naive. lol. ROFL! Damn fucking n00bstories asshole delaying TT. God damn luv2pb, crimson and andr3w282 and every other admin or mod there not coding faster on TT. rrutk i'm sad to say old pal but these past 2 threads have turned you into a joke in my eyes
andr3w282 wrote on Sun, 16 August 2009 23:37 cAmpa wrote on Wed, 12 August 2009 08:21 rrutk wrote on Wed, 12 August 2009 11:36 If u rly think this, u are naive. lol. ROFL! Damn fucking n00bstories asshole delaying TT. God damn luv2pb, crimson and andr3w282 and every other admin or mod there not coding faster on TT. rrutk i'm sad to say old pal but these past 2 threads have turned you into a joke in my eyes can I have one of those TT avatars pl0x? ps mah codez r gud
Crimson wrote on Sun, 16 August 2009 21:10 A n00bstories "split" is a really bad term to use. In truth, a very small percentage of the players stole my server nickname for my marathon server and put their own anti-NS server up. Thats fucked up...
Yeah, it is... but since Jelly owns the serial that the nickname is on, he's the only one who can reset the password but he's been ignoring me for like 2 months. Pretty classy move. Doesn't even have the nuts to tell me that he doesn't want to give it back.
I'd say be happy he already lets you use one of those nicks...
I am happy but it doesn't forgive ignoring me. If he's going to give the nick away, why give it to a new community when there are other more established communities that deserve it more?
Jelly does whatever he wants to do. Maybe one day you'll make a mistake, like I did, and write something he doesn't like and end up without a high listed nickname. Ironically, my community was the one using a00000002 back in the days... All I want to say is that you shouldn't expect anything from him, and just be happy with whatever he allows you to have.
Crimson wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 11:18 I am happy but it doesn't forgive ignoring me. If he's going to give the nick away, why give it to a new community when there are other more established communities that deserve it more? Who are you to decide which community deserves the hostname more, if it isn't even your hostname to begin with? Crimson wrote on Sun, 16 August 2009 21:10 A n00bstories "split" is a really bad term to use. In truth, a very small percentage of the players stole my server nickname for my marathon server and put their own anti-NS server up. Anti-NS? The way I see it, people left your community, then started their own, seperate community. Also.. your server nickname? Did you even use it back then? When a new community was formed on that nickname (Exodus, or should I say faildus/exofail because you like filtering it to that, really good job on deleting that poll btw) you instantly wanted to put up a marathon server on that nickname, probably just to stop us. Also, for the record, this is how I see it, and this does not reflect Exodus' view on things (Even though they might feel the same about it, but yeah). [/rant]
That's entirely false. I had a n00bstories Marathon server on that nickname. A couple NS admins were running it on n00bstories' behalf, so they had access to the username/password that Jelly allowed me to use. When they got mad at me, they renamed the server and made it their own even though n00bstories had been granted permission to use that nickname, not a brand-new community. Jelly had previous rejected requests from more established and long-standing communities such as Black Intel and Black Cell and probably others in favor of n00bstories continuing to use the nickname. However, Jelly has been ignoring my PMs on forums and IRC and won't even give me a simple "yes, I let them use it." So, until I hear that, it's simple for me or anyone using any sort of logic to consider the nickname STOLEN. It's no different than if I owned a chain of restaurants and opened a new one in a prime downtown location that I negotiated a great lease on with the owner, and I hired some people to run the store and be managers of it, and then they changed the sign on the door and kept all the money for themselves. In the real world, I would have grounds for legal action and would sic my lawyer on them. In Renegade-land, I have no recourse at all.
As far as I know jelly left it in the hands of the current admins of Jelly-server as to whether or not we could have that nickname. They gave us their blessing so you just need to get over it.
I think you left some of my comments and questions unanswered. Lets go through my post again. Prulez wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 12:47 Crimson wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 11:18 I am happy but it doesn't forgive ignoring me. If he's going to give the nick away, why give it to a new community when there are other more established communities that deserve it more? Who are you to decide which community deserves the hostname more, if it isn't even your hostname to begin with? I can't see an answer to this in your post, sorry. To add to that question, I like your attitude about 'deserving' the hostname. How can you 'deserve' a hostname, it just gets granted to you. Prulez wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 12:47 Crimson wrote on Sun, 16 August 2009 21:10 A n00bstories "split" is a really bad term to use. In truth, a very small percentage of the players stole my server nickname for my marathon server and put their own anti-NS server up. Anti-NS? The way I see it, people left your community, then started their own, seperate community. You gave no comment on this comment. Even though it was not entirely required, as it was not a question, I would still like to see if you would like to comment on my statement. If not, then I entirely understand, being the good guy I am. Prulez wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 12:47 Also.. your server nickname? Did you even use it back then? When a new community was formed on that nickname (Exodus, or should I say faildus/exofail because you like filtering it to that, really good job on deleting that poll btw) you instantly wanted to put up a marathon server on that nickname, probably just to stop us. Thanks for answering this question, it is highly appreciated. Comparing Renegade hostnames to real world restaurant chains made me laugh, thanks for sharing that.
grant89uk wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 06:41 As far as I know jelly left it in the hands of the current admins of Jelly-server as to whether or not we could have that nickname. They gave us their blessing so you just need to get over it. That's a fine attitude. However, given the actions of the faildus staff, I'm not going to just take your word for it. Not one single admin of Jelly has told me that they approve of your theft. Once again, as far as I'm concerned, it's still stolen.
Prulez wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 07:14 I think you left some of my comments and questions unanswered. Lets go through my post again. Prulez wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 12:47 Crimson wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 11:18 I am happy but it doesn't forgive ignoring me. If he's going to give the nick away, why give it to a new community when there are other more established communities that deserve it more? Who are you to decide which community deserves the hostname more, if it isn't even your hostname to begin with? I can't see an answer to this in your post, sorry. To add to that question, I like your attitude about 'deserving' the hostname. How can you 'deserve' a hostname, it just gets granted to you. That's a pretty thin argument. I never said I "decide" who gets what hostname. Jelly decides since he owns all the top ones except the one I use for the main n00bstories server and any others he has given away permanently that I'm not aware of. As far as 'deserving', that's more of a general community feeling. If I created a public poll as to who 'deserved' that nickname, I don't see faildus winning that poll. Quote: Prulez wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 12:47 Crimson wrote on Sun, 16 August 2009 21:10 A n00bstories "split" is a really bad term to use. In truth, a very small percentage of the players stole my server nickname for my marathon server and put their own anti-NS server up. Anti-NS? The way I see it, people left your community, then started their own, seperate community. You gave no comment on this comment. Even though it was not entirely required, as it was not a question, I would still like to see if you would like to comment on my statement. If not, then I entirely understand, being the good guy I am. Please. When a server is created that duplicates our settings to the letter and all efforts are to copy all the features that we have on our custom bots, it's an anti-NS server. You spam your users with your fictional accounts of why you decided to leave and thread after thread is created for "why u choosed faildus over NS". I don't know why you deny this. A few months later, you're trying to go your own direction because you finally realized that you can't build a community based on hate. Quote: Prulez wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 12:47 Also.. your server nickname? Did you even use it back then? When a new community was formed on that nickname (Exodus, or should I say faildus/exofail because you like filtering it to that, really good job on deleting that poll btw) you instantly wanted to put up a marathon server on that nickname, probably just to stop us. Thanks for answering this question, it is highly appreciated. Comparing Renegade hostnames to real world restaurant chains made me laugh, thanks for sharing that. I'm glad you found it amusing. However, that wasn't my intent. With the limited number of players still available, people are a rare and valued asset, at least as far as running a Renegade server is concerned. Businesses pick locations to try and make the most money, though businesses all have their own ways of making money. High host names are far and above the best way to attract the most amount of players in this particular game. Hence: Restaurant customers : money :: Renegade players :: goal of owning a server I'm not sure how many of you guys have taken your SATs or learned analogies yet but now the metaphor of restaurants has been explained completely, hopefully you will stop laughing and start realizing my point. And once again, having one high nickname doesn't make it OK to steal the other one. If people used that logic, it would be OK to steal money because people have more in the bank, or OK to kill a baby if the parents have another one. I do not subscribe to such failures of logic.
wow you never cared about that other server until we left...for you was ok even if it wasn't running at all. At least we're using that nick "that could be used by someone who deserves it more", instead of just keeping it under the dust to prevent other communities to use it. That was left unused for years, and now all of a sudden you need it? Nice timing... But anyway, yeah, 2 jelly admins told us that jelly agreed to let us use it. That's enough for us to keep using it without any worries. But I can understand how you may feel, waiting for 2 months for jelly's reply...that reminds me about how things worked in my previous community...
Way to leave out facts about those threads. They were not made by any member of staff, it is the regular players who have made such topics and as we aren't nazi's we tend to let people have their opinions. Those accounts of why we left? You even admitted in an irc chat to what you and luv2pb did etc, so how are we making anything up when you admit to doing what we have reported. Honestly it doesn't surprise me though that you leave out important information in order to make it seem like we are in the wrong.
Crimson wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 17:26 That's a pretty thin argument. I never said I "decide" who gets what hostname. Jelly decides since he owns all the top ones except the one I use for the main n00bstories server and any others he has given away permanently that I'm not aware of. Crimson wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 17:26 As far as 'deserving', that's more of a general community feeling. Funny, as I have heard that your Marathon server back in the day didnt quite work out and was kind of empty, so it started being used for Comm wars and was passworded. I actually think that server was ran on my box. With that in mind, the N00bstories Marathon server being empty a lot more then the Exodus (Faildus, sorry) server, do you still think you deserve that nickname? Try filling your AOW server first. Crimson wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 17:26 Quote: Prulez wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 12:47 Crimson wrote on Sun, 16 August 2009 21:10 A n00bstories "split" is a really bad term to use. In truth, a very small percentage of the players stole my server nickname for my marathon server and put their own anti-NS server up. Anti-NS? The way I see it, people left your community, then started their own, seperate community. You gave no comment on this comment. Even though it was not entirely required, as it was not a question, I would still like to see if you would like to comment on my statement. If not, then I entirely understand, being the good guy I am. Please. When a server is created that duplicates our settings to the letter and all efforts are to copy all the features that we have on our custom bots, it's an anti-NS server. As most of our moderators and people merged from your community, I thought I'd help them a hand and fulfill some requests they had, which seemed like they were also available at NS. I hardly played at NS, so I wouldn't know exactly what is/was ran on there I'm sorry that it seems to you like we are an Anti-NS server, though we don't really advertise anywhere that we are so. We're a relatively new community with lots of people who moved over from yours. Crimson wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 17:26 You spam your users with your fictional accounts Elaborate, what fictional accounts, proof. Crimson wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 17:26 of why you decided to leave and thread after thread is created for "why u choosed faildus over NS". One thread. If Loki (ProJakson) , a normal, real, not fictional at all, forum user, decides to name his thread like that, then what do you suggest us to do, being a nazi and edit/remove the thread? If he is close-minded to only see us as anti-ns, then so be it. Some people commented that we shouldn't look at NS only, but look at all servers out there. Crimson wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 17:26 I don't know why you deny this. A few months later, you're trying to go your own direction because you finally realized that you can't build a community based on hate. 2 months. We have had the plan to invest, if I may say so, in other games from the start, as that SEEMED to be one of the reasons that made some people split, eh, wrong word, sorry. For the record, I joined Exodus later, I wasn't a part of the people who split, oh no wait, sabotaged your server at first. Crimson wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 17:26 Quote: Prulez wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 12:47 Also.. your server nickname? Did you even use it back then? When a new community was formed on that nickname (Exodus, or should I say faildus/exofail because you like filtering it to that, really good job on deleting that poll btw) you instantly wanted to put up a marathon server on that nickname, probably just to stop us. Thanks for answering this question, it is highly appreciated. Comparing Renegade hostnames to real world restaurant chains made me laugh, thanks for sharing that. I'm glad you found it amusing. However, that wasn't my intent. With the limited number of players still available, people are a rare and valued asset, at least as far as running a Renegade server is concerned. Businesses pick locations to try and make the most money, though businesses all have their own ways of making money. High host names are far and above the best way to attract the most amount of players in this particular game. Thanks for sharing that common Reneknowledge, I wasn't able to figure that out myself, thanks! Crimson wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 17:26 I'm not sure how many of you guys have taken your SATs or learned analogies yet Sorry, I follow the Dutch school system, so I didn't take them, I'm very sorry, does this make me a bad person? Crimson wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 17:26 And once again, having one high nickname doesn't make it OK to steal the other one. If people used that logic, it would be OK to steal money because people have more in the bank, or OK to kill a baby if the parents have another one. I do not subscribe to such failures of logic. If 2 Jelly admins (As stated in a few posts above) confirm to us that this hostname is OK to be used by us, then why shouldn't we? Oh yeah, also, we deserve it more, as I said a bit before and our community thinks we deserve it anyways, as deserving is just a community feeling.
Rearranging facts and exaggerating facts makes them stop being facts and start being fiction. Once again, I could not possibly care less if a Jelly admin told YOU anything. I care about and believe what they tell ME.
Crimson wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 18:00 Once again, I could not possibly care less if a Jelly admin told YOU anything. I care about and believe what they tell ME. From your opinion, Jelly's hostname got stolen by us. If 2 Jelly admins give us the Go-Ahead, why should we wait for your approval to start profiting, if I may call it so, because a restaurant is to make money, and a server to gain players, and common Reneknowledge and your post tells us exactly that a high hostname helps a lot with that, from the hostname that we are allowed to use? You're saying we stole it while that is not true at all. Also, I still wonder what the fictional accounts thing was based on, and I would like to see some reasoning and explanation behind that.
OK, I don't have the time to follow everything going on anymore hence I haven't read these forums in like 6 months. That hostname was on loan, with the knowledge it could be called back anytime. The hostname Crimson uses on here main server is different. Anyway, as far as i could see that hostname wasn't used in ages, I was going to set it up as a clanwar server. There's a bust-up in the ranks at NS, I get asked if exodus can use the name, I said yeah no problem as it wasn't being used, and if it was it seemed to be a reaction to the split to use the name out of spite. So to make it clear, yes I said they can use the name. Your politics between the communities are your business, i couldn't give a flying fuck what happened or what will happen. As for me, this is the first time i logged in in ages, and it will be the last. I didn't come here to debate or argue, as i really don't care that much. I came to remove any doubt. Peace.
Goztow wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 05:29 Jelly does whatever he wants to do. Maybe one day you'll make a mistake, like I did, and write something he doesn't like and end up without a high listed nickname. Ironically, my community was the one using a00000002 back in the days... All I want to say is that you shouldn't expect anything from him, and just be happy with whatever he allows you to have. You and ref slagged off me, and our entire setup on your forum. Don't expect favours from me when that's how you repay them.
Slagging? I maybe hit a little nerve, and you choose to take it personal? People can make up their mind about that by themselves, if they want. The topic is still openly on our forums. I can honestly say I'm not one to slag anyone, really... But hey, it's history. Just strange that the moment I bring that up, u manage to come back from 6 months of retirement.
thanks for clearing that up jellybe4n. Crimson wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 18:26 Please. When a server is created that duplicates our settings to the letter and all efforts are to copy all the features that we have on our custom bots, it's an anti-NS server. You spam your users with your fictional accounts of why you decided to leave and thread after thread is created for "why u choosed faildus over NS". I don't know why you deny this. A few months later, you're trying to go your own direction because you finally realized that you can't build a community based on hate. can't see what we copied tbh. We don't run pointsfix, our gametime is different, initial money is different, different rotation...but if you mean that we still have harvesters in our servers then yeah, we copied your settings. And I can't see which bot we copied either, and even if we did, I never known your bot was under copyright... Also, if you meant the mIRC bot, then that bot was made also by some of the people who left, and it's also still hosted on Prulez' server if I'm not wrong, so those were someone else's ideas..
Goztow wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 19:19 Just strange that the moment I bring that up, u manage to come back from 6 months of retirement. I asked Jelly to clear up the hostname discussion, that's why he returned here for those 2 posts.
Cunin you're so wrong it makes me want to cry. This shit needs to stay in two months ago where it belongs. We've moved on, obviously you haven't.
Jellybe4n wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 09:52 Anyway, as far as i could see that hostname wasn't used in ages, I was going to set it up as a clanwar server. There's a bust-up in the ranks at NS, I get asked if exodus can use the name, I said yeah no problem as it wasn't being used, and if it was it seemed to be a reaction to the split to use the name out of spite. So to make it clear, yes I said they can use the name. Your politics between the communities are your business, i couldn't give a flying fuck what happened or what will happen. So, they lied to you about whether or not n00bstories was using the nickname. Thanks for clearing that up. I have logs that prove we had a n00bstories Marathon server on that nickname for at least a couple of weeks before that. I keep stats of every server on the RG network going back a few years.
Crimson wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 19:55 Jellybe4n wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 09:52 Anyway, as far as i could see that hostname wasn't used in ages, I was going to set it up as a clanwar server. There's a bust-up in the ranks at NS, I get asked if exodus can use the name, I said yeah no problem as it wasn't being used, and if it was it seemed to be a reaction to the split to use the name out of spite. So to make it clear, yes I said they can use the name. Your politics between the communities are your business, i couldn't give a flying fuck what happened or what will happen. So, they lied to you about whether or not n00bstories was using the nickname. Thanks for clearing that up. I have logs that prove we had a n00bstories Marathon server on that nickname for at least a couple of weeks before that. I keep stats of every server on the RG network going back a few years. WE lied? HE came to the conclusion it was not being used. We didnt lie to him in any bit, you're just drawing the WRONG conclusions here.
Crimson wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 12:52 Cunin you're so wrong it makes me want to cry. This shit needs to stay in two months ago where it belongs. We've moved on, obviously you haven't. yeah whatever, if you can at least point out where I'm wrong... And anyway, YOU started this shit again with your lies: Quote: A n00bstories "split" is a really bad term to use. In truth, a very small percentage of the players stole my server nickname for my marathon server and put their own anti-NS server up (LOL), Jelly refuses to even respond to me to tell me that he let them have it (real classy). you'd like to live in a perfect world, where you can make up your stories and have no one arguing over them, I know that.
Cunin wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 19:40 Also, if you meant the mIRC bot, then that bot was made also by some of the people who left, and it's also still hosted on Prulez' server if I'm not wrong, so those were someone else's ideas.. To reply to this: I am developing ExaBot, NSiBot was running on my server, but I have not copied any of the scripts. If you want Andrew to take a look at my scripts to verify this, I'll be happy to give him my code.
Prulez wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 11:11 Cunin wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 19:40 Also, if you meant the mIRC bot, then that bot was made also by some of the people who left, and it's also still hosted on Prulez' server if I'm not wrong, so those were someone else's ideas.. To reply to this: I am developing ExaBot, NSiBot was running on my server, but I have not copied any of the scripts. If you want Andrew to take a look at my scripts to verify this, I'll be happy to give him my code. I'm referring to copying unique features that we thought up. But don't worry, you're not the first to copy NS and you won't be the last. Copying other people's ideas is a running theme in this community.
This is ridiculous... you all need to get over yourselves. Jelly has sanctioned the use of a00000002 to Exodus, end of story. No one else can dictate who uses it other than him. You all split, go your separate ways and stop bringing shit up here. What's done is done and you need to move on.
Cunin wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 11:11 Crimson wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 12:52 Cunin you're so wrong it makes me want to cry. This shit needs to stay in two months ago where it belongs. We've moved on, obviously you haven't. yeah whatever, if you can at least point out where I'm wrong... And anyway, YOU started this shit again with your lies: Quote: A n00bstories "split" is a really bad term to use. In truth, a very small percentage of the players stole my server nickname for my marathon server and put their own anti-NS server up (LOL), Jelly refuses to even respond to me to tell me that he let them have it (real classy). you'd like to live in a perfect world, where you can make up your stories and have no one arguing over them, I know that. Point out where you're wrong? No, I'm not going to. You just want to give this discussion more legs. I've already pointed out where you're wrong and I'm sure you guys still have screen shots of the private forum where I spoke to you about it. I don't even remember most of it anyway because I, unlike you, have moved on to bigger and better things and don't waste my time wallowing in hate about things that happened months ago.
raven wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 11:17 This is ridiculous... you all need to get over yourselves. Jelly has sanctioned the use of a00000002 to Exodus, end of story. No one else can dictate who uses it other than him. You all split, go your separate ways and stop bringing shit up here. What's done is done and you need to move on. That's right, he has sanctioned it. I think it's a big disservice to other communities who have contributed a lot to the game over the years and those who are developing new and cool stuff for the game, but maybe I'm the only one who thinks so. It reminds me why people get so upset about a00 in the first place, when the one guy who owns them all can decide he doesn't give a shit about Renegade anymore and just take the easy road and give a nick to the first guy who asks and already happens to have the password. At least now that two months later I finally have confirmation that Jelly said it was OK for them to keep the nickname they stole I can move on from that. The money I had earmarked for the last two months of hosting the second server was donated to the RGCT anyway.
Crimson wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 20:17 Prulez wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 11:11 Cunin wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 19:40 Also, if you meant the mIRC bot, then that bot was made also by some of the people who left, and it's also still hosted on Prulez' server if I'm not wrong, so those were someone else's ideas.. To reply to this: I am developing ExaBot, NSiBot was running on my server, but I have not copied any of the scripts. If you want Andrew to take a look at my scripts to verify this, I'll be happy to give him my code. I'm referring to copying unique features that we thought up. But don't worry, you're not the first to copy NS and you won't be the last. Copying other people's ideas is a running theme in this community. You mean the TeamSpeak Regulator? There were multiple people requesting this and I coded this myself, I was not aware that NS also had this, then still, it's not Copyrighted, is it? Feel free to copy our Lag Forecaster on our forums, oh wait, you already did
luv2pb wrote on Sun, 16 August 2009 21:59 ps mah codez r gud luv2pb is a very good coder. rrutk wrote on Wed, 12 August 2009 04:36 If u rly think this, u are naive. rrutk is right, even if the effect is little this "drama" has effected TT a000clown wrote on Wed, 12 August 2009 18:42 I think if there were regular updates this wouldn't be the case. It would be better to have regular updates even if it would be harder to work around as it would stop some people from leaving renegade Crimson wrote on Sun, 16 August 2009 21:10 A n00bstories "split" is a really bad term to use. In truth, a very small percentage of the players stole my server nickname for my marathon server and put their own anti-NS server up. it seems that jelly owned this nickname?And there is not much anti-NS in "That Community Which Must Not Be Named".Your n00bstories marathon server hardly even had any players in it. Crimson wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 10:13 That's a fine attitude. However, given the actions of the faildus staff, I'm not going to just take your word for it. Not one single admin of Jelly has told me that they approve of your theft. Once again, as far as I'm concerned, it's still stolen. That's nice, thinking he is a liar because he's part of another community and... raven wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 19:17 This is ridiculous... you all need to get over yourselves. Jelly has sanctioned the use of a00000002 to Exodus, end of story. No one else can dictate who uses it other than him. You all split, go your separate ways and stop bringing shit up here. What's done is done and you need to move on.
Crimson wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 13:21 Cunin wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 11:11 Crimson wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 12:52 Cunin you're so wrong it makes me want to cry. This shit needs to stay in two months ago where it belongs. We've moved on, obviously you haven't. yeah whatever, if you can at least point out where I'm wrong... And anyway, YOU started this shit again with your lies: Quote: A n00bstories "split" is a really bad term to use. In truth, a very small percentage of the players stole my server nickname for my marathon server and put their own anti-NS server up (LOL), Jelly refuses to even respond to me to tell me that he let them have it (real classy). you'd like to live in a perfect world, where you can make up your stories and have no one arguing over them, I know that. Point out where you're wrong? No, I'm not going to. You just want to give this discussion more legs. I've already pointed out where you're wrong and I'm sure you guys still have screen shots of the private forum where I spoke to you about it. I don't even remember most of it anyway because I, unlike you, have moved on to bigger and better things and don't waste my time wallowing in hate about things that happened months ago. Well I thought that was a reply to this: Cunin wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 12:40 thanks for clearing that up jellybe4n. Crimson wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 18:26 Please. When a server is created that duplicates our settings to the letter and all efforts are to copy all the features that we have on our custom bots, it's an anti-NS server. You spam your users with your fictional accounts of why you decided to leave and thread after thread is created for "why u choosed faildus over NS". I don't know why you deny this. A few months later, you're trying to go your own direction because you finally realized that you can't build a community based on hate. can't see what we copied tbh. We don't run pointsfix, our gametime is different, initial money is different, different rotation...but if you mean that we still have harvesters in our servers then yeah, we copied your settings. And I can't see which bot we copied either, and even if we did, I never known your bot was under copyright... Also, if you meant the mIRC bot, then that bot was made also by some of the people who left, and it's also still hosted on Prulez' server if I'm not wrong, so those were someone else's ideas.. as you posted that right after I posted this...and now you go back to what happened 2 months ago and blame me for it? wat? And about copying stuff...wow c'mon grow up. You're going to say people are copying your server's features over any thing you see that can resemble something that's running on your server? Little bit paranoid uh? To really look different in your eyes we'll have to run a different game I guess, because you'll always going to find something similar...next thing would be we use same brenbot version..
Pyr0man1c wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 11:37 it seems that jelly owned this nickname?And there is not much anti-NS in "That Community Which Must Not Be Named".Your n00bstories marathon server hardly even had any players in it. Well, duh... that's because we had just started it up. We do "marathon weekends" on the main server and there were many requests to do marathon more often, so we put a second server up on the nickname that we had used for a sniper server, a fan maps server, and sometimes no server... the marathon server was the most success we'd had since back in the day when we used to host 8 servers that were mostly full all day and it had just started to take off when it was so rudely stolen.
Cunin wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 11:47 And about copying stuff...wow c'mon grow up. You're going to say people are copying your server's features over any thing you see that can resemble something that's running on your server? Little bit paranoid uh? To really look different in your eyes we'll have to run a different game I guess, because you'll always going to find something similar...next thing would be we use same brenbot version.. Excuse me... nice word twisting and exaggerating. Too bad for you I'm not that dumb. I said that the server was started with almost the same settings. You guys have changed a few things over the last two months. You only need to look at your own forums to see your users complaining about the lack of features, specific features that only NS has. It's good that you guys are trying to be your own people now but your actions from the past day have shown that you still haven't grown up.
a000clown wrote on Wed, 12 August 2009 18:42 A significant amount of people I have talked with don't believe TT will ever be completed, which is a problem because they have no hope for C&C:Renegade's future and thus stop playing it. I think if there were regular updates this wouldn't be the case. I can't express how brilliant an idea having regular updates is. Despite the fact that it will be hard to make EA make it official and that it will be hard to release in different parts doing this would keep people interested in renegade and stop it from dying out ^^This is on topic so i think your moving it over to another forum was rather silly as this is an idea to consider for TT however I know you won't for several reasons. off topic-if this was to be done then there wouldn't actually be any need to fight as people with scripts 3.4.4 show servers with the highest ranking ingame player count rather than highest ranking name so the fact that "your" host nick was stolen would hardly matter.Also Crimson you should set up a marathon server as really even if the host nick isn't high ranking people will recognize and play in it.All this arguing about stealing the nick is silly, it is equivelant to arguing over who gets to take a bag of lollypops(or burgers)
God, this is the most horrible thread on Earth. And there are posts on the first page that directly pertain to TT and do not involve NS and Exodus, and they should be put back in their original thread.
Please just close this threads instead of deleting content from it. Its doing nothing good for the Renegade community...
Well, if I remove those posts and re-merge them, then it makes the original thread all unread for people's cookies... if you want them over there just cut-n-paste... Once again, NO CONTENT WAS DELETED FROM THIS THREAD!
Crimson wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 13:55 It's good that you guys are trying to be your own people now but your actions from the past day have shown that you still haven't grown up. from reading this thread through end to end, i'd say that they aren't the only ones... my own opinion.
I'm glad you agree your fellow staff members haven't grown up.
thats not what i meant, i honestly don't know them that well, but from the last few posts, i can honestly see that you aren't one that acts your age crimson.
http://basicinstructions.net/comics/2006-09-06%20bkpddle.gif OH NOES - I ARE NOT ACTING MY AGE ON THE INTERNET - ALERT THE PRESS!
lol, i called you immature, and your accusing me of back pedalling? http://basicinstructions.net/comics/2006-09-20%20banter.gif i say and i know its been said earlier in the thread, everyone needs to just grow up.
Lollerskates. Renegade is serious bisniss.
Crimson wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 15:52 http://basicinstructions.net/comics/2006-09-06%20bkpddle.gif OH NOES - I ARE NOT ACTING MY AGE ON THE INTERNET - ALERT THE PRESS! That comic is offensive. I'm Bulgarian. It's those filthy Turks we need to be wary of.
raven wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 13:17 You all split, go your separate ways and stop bringing shit up here. What's done is done and you need to move on. Impossible ATM, because from my point of view failstories is going on trying to sabotage the new community wherever the are able too.
TBH, what do you expect then? You're a group of people that split from NS because you disagreed with how they acted, and while doing this you probably took a certain number of their regular members with them. What do you expect them to do? Say: "hey guys, good luck, tell us when you need some help!" Moreover what you did with the hostname may have been done technically correctly (as in: you went to Jelly and got it), but it seems to me all but politically correct. Then afterwards you come on this forum, which is a place for the community but owned and financed by Crimson to spit venom about NS by posting information from private subforums. It seems your idea was to either make NS look bad or try to convince more of their members to join your community. And then you seem to be surprised that NS isn't happy about you and "will try to sabotage you where possible"? It seems like a very normal reaction to me and maybe something you should have thought of a few months ago instead of complaining about it now. All actions have consequences that you need to foresee. Noone is ever possible to foresee all consequences, but these ones were kind of evident, no? That being said, I don't want to take any position on the actual "who was right / wrong" discussion, because I don't care. But when I read things as stupid as the post before, then I feel I need to react.
As far as I know, but correct me if I'm wrong because I've never bothered to know much about ren's history, she wanted to run this forum for the community, she wasn't asked to do so. What bothered us (and I know for sure it's the same feeling for lots of server owners) is that she's using this forum, which is meant to be run for all communities, for her own community's interests. I can agree on what you said, Goztow, but only if what's happening here happened on NS's forums (which happened). We couldn't promote our community/server here because she used that word filter to change exodus to faildus/exofail, and that worked for URLs too, so we couldn't even link our forums. Now I now that this is owned by her, but this should be a place for everyone involved in Renegade, not for only the ones that she like. She also never miss a chance to to spread lies (or her own truth) to everyone here, even when it wasn't needed. The shit started on this thread was because she had to make fun of us once again, without a real need. If you know our reasons why we left NS, you should also understand how WE feel when this happens. That happened for a mix of reasons, one of which was her insulting and arrogant behavior against us, and seeing that happening again for no reason here, made me post all this stuff. So yeah I can understand how she might feel, but you should also understand how WE feel on this matter too. It's not a one way street, and if this forum was ran as she said it is, then we wouldn't have our name banned from here or our posts/threads deleted. How should we feel? We're not surprised that this shit happens, we're just sick of being constantly insulted by her, even after we left her community also because of that. So yeah I won't expect you to take a position, but also think about how we feel when she throws shit on us, not only how she might feel.
Crimson wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 13:55 Cunin wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 11:47 And about copying stuff...wow c'mon grow up. You're going to say people are copying your server's features over any thing you see that can resemble something that's running on your server? Little bit paranoid uh? To really look different in your eyes we'll have to run a different game I guess, because you'll always going to find something similar...next thing would be we use same brenbot version.. Excuse me... nice word twisting and exaggerating. Too bad for you I'm not that dumb. I said that the server was started with almost the same settings. You guys have changed a few things over the last two months. You only need to look at your own forums to see your users complaining about the lack of features, specific features that only NS has. It's good that you guys are trying to be your own people now but your actions from the past day have shown that you still haven't grown up. i'm glad that you visit our forums, but the lack of features is uhm...normal for a new server...so you're just stating the obvious there... How do you expect us to run all the stuff you made in years from day 1? maybe by stealing it, of course, but we didn't steal anything so we had to build everything from the ground up, and we did it in a month, so yeah I'm pretty proud of what everyone did in our community, and shows how wrong you were when you never trusted any of us to work on stuff for your server.
Cunin wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 07:45 What bothered us (and I know for sure it's the same feeling for lots of server owners) is that she's using this forum, which is meant to be run for all communities, for her own community's interests. exactly! not only server owners have this feeling!
Keep on lying, guys. There are LOTS of people I don't like that are allowed to post here and advertise their shitty servers so long as they follow the forum rules. I'm not going to name them, but most of them know who they are. YOU GUYS advertised yourselves by posting links to private forum posts. If ANY member of this forum posted confidential, protected information, it would and has been deleted. This includes warez, source code to cheats, personal information like phone numbers and addresses of people who do not agree to have them posted. When any other community or person was dealing with a huge security breach that leaked onto here (such as Reborn private betas leaked), they are REMOVED and the violators are banned. But you didn't stop there, did you? No, you made more and more accounts to try and post but I had turned on new account approvals so they all sat in the approval queue and you were never able to use them to continue to break forum rules. To further illustrate my point, when arnyswart posted about your boys vs. girls tourney (which is ironically the same tournament that started this mess), the post was allowed to remain on the forum (right here at http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&th=34012&start=0&rid=8 where you left it) because it followed the forum rules. Your URL is in the link in that thread and it was not censored or filtered as you claimed it was. Keep making yourselves look like asses, and people will realize why we do not miss you at n00bstories and are doing GREAT without you!
I have been assured that the same treatment would be applied to any community that posts private information from other peoples forums. I hope that this never happens to me, but if it does I believe Crimson when she says it would be dealt with just as promptly and ferociously; You have to give someone like Crimson the benefit of the doubt, after all of her personal time and money pumped into renegade. Not to mention how much she has helped others (server rentals anyone?; enormous amount of trust went into that).
Cunin wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 14:45 ... I very much do my best to understand both point of views, and I was one of the first people to ask Crimson for more information on this very touchy subject of the status of renforums in the Renegade community. One could even say I questioned what happened in a private subforum, as I always like to get to know both sides of the story. I agree that at certain moments, this wasn't handled very well by both sides. IMO it would have been healthier to have the discussion once and for all in a strictly moderated topic (hey, isn't that what's happening just now in here?). At the end of the day, there have been some serious communication mistakes from both sides, which made this whole thing look much worse than it was with regards to renforums.com, from the view of an outsider. I dare to state that my intervention didn't go unnoticed, this topic being the main proof of this. Communicating efficiently and correctly is a very hard thing to do, especially if you're not used to (having to) do it. I suggest now that both sides gave their point of view, that you take some time to look back and check out what further discussion can gain for you. If you both decide that the other won't change their mind and that there's no "solution" to this "problem", then I'm convinced it would be better to stop replying with the same arguments. If Exodus is to have their place in the community, then these forums should become open towards them sooner or later, but probably after the shit fest ended. If I may give you one hint though, to make this happen faster: change your community's name.
And ensure no one connected to it attempts to post information that is private.
I'm not entirely sure what's gone on, nor do i care. But reading through this thread, the most pathetic thing i can see is Crimson (and anyone else that's said it as a way of demeaning exodus) saying 'faildus' instead of 'exodus'. It's damn right childish. I mean, why do you have a problem with saying 'exodus'? What would you do if they started calling your server 'fail stories' (which actually makes more sense than simply changing the exo of exodus to fail)? Edit: In fact, this thread shows exactly what will kill renegade, and that's communities competing for players instead of working together. As an ideal game, there would be servers of different types only, and then more servers coming along when the player count in that type is constantly too high. If communities are constantly splitting renegade will only die.
futura83 wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 09:22 In fact, this thread shows exactly what will kill renegade, and that's communities competing for players instead of working together. As an ideal game, there would be servers of different types only, and then more servers coming along when the player count in that type is constantly too high. If communities are constantly splitting renegade will only die. You are exactly right. There is no need for any new servers and definitely no need to try and split a community up. Faildus' only real achievement was to bring Renegade closer to the death we don't want it to reach.
Crimson wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 17:30 Faildus' only real achievement was to bring Renegade closer to the death we don't want it to reach. Communities fighting like this is going to kill renegade, actually. Having 1000s of servers on the list is hardly going to have an effect as most people almost always order it by the server nickname. It's communities fighting, like this. I don't see why everyone has such a big ego that they desperately seek to validate. Why don't you just do the more mature thing and accept that some of your community members have started their own little community. Whatever they say is hardly going to budge your reputation, most people who post here struggle to keep drool off their keyboards. Let alone actually care about something like this. If you are angry about losing a nickname that you don't really own, take that up with the owner of it in PM rather than creating drama here. Call me a hypocrite for saying so? I would just as easily do the same back
Quote: most people almost always order it by the server nickname Personally i connect use renegade resurrection and order the servers by player count. Saying that though, the times i do go in game i go on n00bless, which is favourited and always appears at the top, unless it's empty, which i either go in a sniper, or coop server or something or not at all anyway.
jnz wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 09:45 dumb words Clearly you didn't follow the conversation or you wouldn't have said that. Thanks for demonstrating your own point. Try using a hairdryer to get the drool off your keyboard.
I tried, oh well. At least it wasn't deleted, I suppose.
futura83 wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 09:22 But reading through this thread, the most pathetic thing i can see is Crimson (and anyone else that's said it as a way of demeaning exodus) saying 'faildus' instead of 'exodus'. It's damn right childish. futura83 wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 09:22 What would you do if they started calling your server 'fail stories' (which actually makes more sense than simply changing the exo of exodus to fail)? They already do that. In fact, I can't tell who started it. jnz wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 09:45 Why don't you just do the more mature thing and accept that some of your community members have started their own little community. Whatever they say is hardly going to budge your reputation, most people who post here struggle to keep drool off their keyboards. Let alone actually care about something like this. If you are angry about losing a nickname that you don't really own, take that up with the owner of it in PM rather than creating drama here. This would have been a valid point, if it was Crimson that started this thread, instead of some exo-fag. I don't know why you're directing your criticism at Crimson instead of this drama queen named rrutk, who's been spamming multiple forums with pointless drama.
Dover wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 20:29 jnz wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 09:45 Why don't you just do the more mature thing and accept that some of your community members have started their own little community. Whatever they say is hardly going to budge your reputation, most people who post here struggle to keep drool off their keyboards. Let alone actually care about something like this. If you are angry about losing a nickname that you don't really own, take that up with the owner of it in PM rather than creating drama here. This would have been a valid point, if it was Crimson that started this thread, instead of some exo-fag. I don't know why you're directing your criticism at Crimson instead of this drama queen named rrutk, who's been spamming multiple forums with pointless drama. It takes 2 to argue, and I see no pointless administrator abuse from the exodus community. Sure, they can do it on their own dead forums if they want. No one will be affected though, unlike here. Which is a totally seperate entity to n00bstories mind you. So instead of keeping mindless button pushing on n00bstories, it is also brought here.
Our forums are far from dead just to clarify.
jnz wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 13:01 It takes 2 to argue, and I see no pointless administrator abuse from the exodus community. Sure, they can do it on their own dead forums if they want. No one will be affected though, unlike here. Which is a totally seperate entity to n00bstories mind you. So instead of keeping mindless button pushing on n00bstories, it is also brought here. Care to quantify the term "administrator abuse" and "mindless button pushing"? I'm not quite sure what you're refering to. I'm talking about poinless thread spam, like this one and "n00bstories childish behavior". grant89uk wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 13:18 Our forums are far from dead just to clarify. lol.
Pyr0man1c wrote on Mon, 17 August 2009 13:37 luv2pb wrote on Sun, 16 August 2009 21:59 ps mah codez r gud luv2pb is a very good coder. I pray that is sarcasm ...
Crimson wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 08:31 Keep on lying, guys. There are LOTS of people I don't like that are allowed to post here and advertise their shitty servers so long as they follow the forum rules. I'm not going to name them, but most of them know who they are. YOU GUYS advertised yourselves by posting links to private forum posts. If ANY member of this forum posted confidential, protected information, it would and has been deleted. This includes warez, source code to cheats, personal information like phone numbers and addresses of people who do not agree to have them posted. When any other community or person was dealing with a huge security breach that leaked onto here (such as Reborn private betas leaked), they are REMOVED and the violators are banned. But you didn't stop there, did you? No, you made more and more accounts to try and post but I had turned on new account approvals so they all sat in the approval queue and you were never able to use them to continue to break forum rules. To further illustrate my point, when arnyswart posted about your boys vs. girls tourney (which is ironically the same tournament that started this mess), the post was allowed to remain on the forum (right here at http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&th=34012&start=0&rid=8 where you left it) because it followed the forum rules. Your URL is in the link in that thread and it was not censored or filtered as you claimed it was. Keep making yourselves look like asses, and people will realize why we do not miss you at n00bstories and are doing GREAT without you! uhm well...if you notice, that link is thx4the.info (the first URL we used to host forums), what you filtered was "exodus", even on URLs, so we couldn't talk about it nor link to the new URL. reborn wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 14:33 I have been assured that the same treatment would be applied to any community that posts private information from other peoples forums. I hope that this never happens to me, but if it does I believe Crimson when she says it would be dealt with just as promptly and ferociously; You have to give someone like Crimson the benefit of the doubt, after all of her personal time and money pumped into renegade. Not to mention how much she has helped others (server rentals anyone?; enormous amount of trust went into that). I would give her the benefit of the doubt if only I didn't know that it was actually HER placing that filter. So the benefit of the doubt does not apply in this case I'm talking about the word filter and the "vanishing" posts threads anyway, I'm not going to say that removing private stuff isn't right. That page was made after she started lying about what happened, trying to make us look like retards, incompetent, traitors and what else, and the only way to fight those silly attempts to make us look dumb, was to show what really happened. We didnt even want to start a new community, we just wanted to resign and keep playing without powers, but you can't do that there...they threatened to ban us if we tried, then the idea of a new community was born (also because we saw that we had enough people to start one). jnz wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 15:01 It takes 2 to argue, and I see no pointless administrator abuse from the exodus community. Sure, they can do it on their own dead forums if they want. No one will be affected though, unlike here. Which is a totally seperate entity to n00bstories mind you. So instead of keeping mindless button pushing on n00bstories, it is also brought here. Our forums are far from being dead, maybe you're talking about n00bstories : exoduscommunity.com Our Board Statistics Total Posts 9119 Total Members 217 and that's just in almost 2 months
Dover wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 21:22 jnz wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 13:01 It takes 2 to argue, and I see no pointless administrator abuse from the exodus community. Sure, they can do it on their own dead forums if they want. No one will be affected though, unlike here. Which is a totally seperate entity to n00bstories mind you. So instead of keeping mindless button pushing on n00bstories, it is also brought here. Care to quantify the term "administrator abuse" and "mindless button pushing"? I'm not quite sure what you're refering to. I'm talking about poinless thread spam, like this one and "n00bstories childish behavior". That would refer to the use of administration/moderation powers as a way to suppress negative opinions of n00bstories, opinions of those in power etc....y'know, stuff that isn't against the forum rules as such but stuff that gets punished anyway. For instance, i'm unable to post in any technical help subforum as i spoke out against renguard (or something like that, i can't exactly remember tbh). Edit: I also seem to remember there was a new community created a while ago that clashed with this forum like Exodus is clashing with n00bstories now for the way this forum is run. I got my signature taken away for putting a link to that forum in it. I also got the title of viva la resistance.
futura83 wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 15:03 Dover wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 21:22 jnz wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 13:01 It takes 2 to argue, and I see no pointless administrator abuse from the exodus community. Sure, they can do it on their own dead forums if they want. No one will be affected though, unlike here. Which is a totally seperate entity to n00bstories mind you. So instead of keeping mindless button pushing on n00bstories, it is also brought here. Care to quantify the term "administrator abuse" and "mindless button pushing"? I'm not quite sure what you're refering to. I'm talking about poinless thread spam, like this one and "n00bstories childish behavior". That would refer to the use of administration/moderation powers as a way to suppress negative opinions of n00bstories, opinions of those in power etc....y'know, stuff that isn't against the forum rules as such but stuff that gets punished anyway. For instance, i'm unable to post in any technical help subforum as i spoke out against renguard (or something like that, i can't exactly remember tbh). Is that so? Here's a test: n00bstories is an unsatisfactory Renegade server, and its leader, Crimson, is a big ugly poop that's as dumb as a butt. If this gets deleted, you're right. If it stays, you're wrong. futura83 wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 15:03 I also seem to remember there was a new community created a while ago that clashed with this forum like Exodus is clashing with n00bstories now for the way this forum is run. I got my signature taken away for putting a link to that forum in it. I also got the title of viva la resistance. Cool story, bro. I think I remember something similar happening while I was attending the pope's jewish wedding in Switzerland. Billy Mays told me about it while I was there. In all seriousness, if you can't even remember the name of this supposed community, if it even existed, how do you expect your story to be taken seriously?
Dover wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 23:20 futura83 wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 15:03 Dover wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 21:22 jnz wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 13:01 It takes 2 to argue, and I see no pointless administrator abuse from the exodus community. Sure, they can do it on their own dead forums if they want. No one will be affected though, unlike here. Which is a totally seperate entity to n00bstories mind you. So instead of keeping mindless button pushing on n00bstories, it is also brought here. Care to quantify the term "administrator abuse" and "mindless button pushing"? I'm not quite sure what you're refering to. I'm talking about poinless thread spam, like this one and "n00bstories childish behavior". That would refer to the use of administration/moderation powers as a way to suppress negative opinions of n00bstories, opinions of those in power etc....y'know, stuff that isn't against the forum rules as such but stuff that gets punished anyway. For instance, i'm unable to post in any technical help subforum as i spoke out against renguard (or something like that, i can't exactly remember tbh). Is that so? Here's a test: n00bstories is an unsatisfactory Renegade server, and its leader, Crimson, is a big ugly poop that's as dumb as a butt. If this gets deleted, you're right. If it stays, you're wrong. futura83 wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 15:03 I also seem to remember there was a new community created a while ago that clashed with this forum like Exodus is clashing with n00bstories now for the way this forum is run. I got my signature taken away for putting a link to that forum in it. I also got the title of viva la resistance. Cool story, bro. I think I remember something similar happening while I was attending the pope's jewish wedding in Switzerland. Billy Mays told me about it while I was there. In all seriousness, if you can't even remember the name of this supposed community, if it even existed, how do you expect your story to be taken seriously? Based on your responses i've concluded i can only say one thing to you: Come back and argue once you're through with pre-school.
futura83 wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 15:33 Dover wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 23:20 futura83 wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 15:03 Dover wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 21:22 jnz wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 13:01 It takes 2 to argue, and I see no pointless administrator abuse from the exodus community. Sure, they can do it on their own dead forums if they want. No one will be affected though, unlike here. Which is a totally seperate entity to n00bstories mind you. So instead of keeping mindless button pushing on n00bstories, it is also brought here. Care to quantify the term "administrator abuse" and "mindless button pushing"? I'm not quite sure what you're refering to. I'm talking about poinless thread spam, like this one and "n00bstories childish behavior". That would refer to the use of administration/moderation powers as a way to suppress negative opinions of n00bstories, opinions of those in power etc....y'know, stuff that isn't against the forum rules as such but stuff that gets punished anyway. For instance, i'm unable to post in any technical help subforum as i spoke out against renguard (or something like that, i can't exactly remember tbh). Is that so? Here's a test: n00bstories is an unsatisfactory Renegade server, and its leader, Crimson, is a big ugly poop that's as dumb as a butt. If this gets deleted, you're right. If it stays, you're wrong. futura83 wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 15:03 I also seem to remember there was a new community created a while ago that clashed with this forum like Exodus is clashing with n00bstories now for the way this forum is run. I got my signature taken away for putting a link to that forum in it. I also got the title of viva la resistance. Cool story, bro. I think I remember something similar happening while I was attending the pope's jewish wedding in Switzerland. Billy Mays told me about it while I was there. In all seriousness, if you can't even remember the name of this supposed community, if it even existed, how do you expect your story to be taken seriously? Based on your responses i've concluded i can only say one thing to you: Come back and argue once you're through with pre-school.
can we not involve renegadeforums into this?
ddr wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 15:38 I see, and who are you exactly, Mr. 1 post?
this is ridiculous the split was actually a good thing for the renegade community, stop being childish and get on with doing important stuff even if that "important" stuff is improving your renegade community.Nothing useful will come of this discussion as Crimson doesn't want to take anything useful from it.
Pyr0man1c wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 18:26 this is ridiculous the split was actually a good thing for the renegade community, stop being childish and get on with doing important stuff even if that "important" stuff is improving your renegade community.Nothing useful will come of this discussion as Crimson doesn't want to take anything useful from it. crimson isn't the only person that should take something from this topic...
Dover wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 15:43 ddr wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 15:38 I see, and who are you exactly, Mr. 1 post? Well, he WAS someone who was banned once before for a month for leaking confidential information but he hasn't learned his lesson so now it's permanent. Exodus, you need to keep your fanboys on a leash, eh?
Crimson wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 17:33 Dover wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 15:43 ddr wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 15:38 I see, and who are you exactly, Mr. 1 post? Well, he WAS someone who was banned once before for a month for leaking confidential information but he hasn't learned his lesson so now it's permanent. Exodus, you need to keep your fanboys on a leash, eh? Why, that doesn't sound like "no reason" at all! In fact that sounds like a fairly serious offense! The CIA assassinates people for less.
Keep our fanboys on a leash? Sorry but no one from the staff is going out and sending people here with the intent of saying these things. Secondly we don't supress peoples opinions. If those people have a problem with you, then they have every right to bring it forward. Just because you have a beef with the exodus staff doesn't mean all people who associate with our server should be "kept on a leash". Lastly I didn't even see the post that had been removed as you seem oh so quick to remove these things.
grant89uk wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 18:59 Lastly I didn't even see the post that had been removed as you seem oh so quick to remove these things. That's good. Personally, I like to see bans enforced and ban evasion punished. Surely, Exodus enforces their bans, right?