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I got banned for unfairness and this was on the storm server NO ONE PLAY ON THERE SERVERS THEY ARE UNFAIR! ME Quote: So the map was C&C Siege and there were about 14 players ingame and this was on 3/2/08 btw. I was the last nod tech and I ran into the pp to disarm an ion beacon because someone had ob walked and placed one in there. The whole game UltimateAlex was just sitting around inside the PP doing nothing and calling people names and when I went to disarm the beacon a havoc shot me from behind so I lost 1/2 of my hp and he shot me again and I died. (We lost the PP) And UlitmateAlex called me a name and then he banned me. Later when I tried to get into the server before it auto kicked me he said "I was hacking and I had some sort of you loose a shit load of hp when I try to disarm a beacon" It was no hack I feel that this was unfiar and this was wrong of him to do. I am a good player and I play all the time on your server. He probly just did not see the havoc but I don't hack and banning without a warning and anything else is just plain unfair. Nick: TheOnLy4 Time: 3/2/08 6:00 a.m EST Ninjahh Quote: First off let me tell you something.. It was very kind of you to just post your dispute without any bad comments about st0rm or it's users.. Unfortunately you say you play here all the time.. Here's what I've found about you so far: Your Ladder is: Rank 798 of 1168, played 9 games in Total Your Rank is: Recruit 10/20 Please don't lie about things that aren't true, sometimes it just makes it harder to believe that you're a fair player, since you even lie about playing here all the time... Do you think we will believe you any more when we find out that it's not true? Anyway, Being objective and looking only at the current facts; UltimateAlex was not doing anything, he was watching you the entire time and he asked me for consult. The thing is, he was watching you live, and I believe he might have recorded something.. Your offenses are: Offense 1 Against ThEOnLy4: Warned 3 times, Lastly by: Painkid33 for: Hacking (Cwarn) Offense 2 against tHeoNly4: You've been captured using RightClick hacks, good day. He was 100% right on the fact that you only used your rightclick, we have proof, but we will not tell you how we know it. The first offense that was made by Painkid was at Date: Feb 23, 2:22:06 EST. THe Second offense that was made by Alex was at Date: March 2, 7:25:02 EST Your offenses are quite different if you look at the time stamp. Your ban will not removed, just wait till UltimateAlex posts in this section. ME Quote: understand the diffrence between your perspective and mine is that when I said I play all the time I ment recently. Yeah sorry I am autistic (not a lie or an excuse) so I have trouble understanding people and words some times. But the main thing is he said I lost a lot of hp. I only lost 1/2 of my hp which was from the shot from a havoc. So right click hack has nothing to do with it. Yes I do right click because people say that the gun turret seems to lock onto targets better when right click. I did try a hack once but that was a long time ago on an EKT server. So yeah I don't hack though. Becuase I was playing fair the wole game when there was just 3 players originally. The only way I could have hacked was with big beacons hack I guess, which is dumb and stuff. I don't hack and anyway most of the game I was following darknardar around and reparing building with him. And I call people hackers a noobs a lot. And the painkid guy I thought was hacking so I kept calling him a hacker becuase his killes seemed BS. But anyway he just fed up with it and banned me. I don't hack I have never hacked. (Except that one time on that EKT server a year ago) and this is really the only server that I get a good ping too aswell. So I am not one of thoes people that hack just because there are a millions of servers on WOL and just because I get banned from this one that I can move on to the next one. I get like 1000 ping on other server even with just a simple 5 player game. But with this server I can play a 14 player game with only 295 ping. So yes I would love that you could please reconsider and all of that stuff thanks. I also believe that when I was playing that tunnel beacons should not be allowed on C&C Canyon. Thanks! [Ren]guipami11 Quote: i know i probably have nothing to do with this, but UltimateAlex has been a mod for a very long time, and i dont think he would ban someone with out having a good reason for it. I may be wrong. Though, like Ninjahh said, i would just wait for him to make a post so things can get cleared up a bit. Ulitmate Alex Quote: First off, BEFORE i joined to watch you, you had the famous "Zero bug" wich only happens when demage/repair hacks are not properly installed. And you yelled "----ING SERVER NO MONEY" Then you rejoined and i watched you, you were rightclicking the ENTIRE time, disarming C4 in seconds, same for beacons. I will have a talk to the other admins if i can post the video wich includes something wich isnt usually accessable for normal users. Enjoy your stay on the ban list, and wait untill this is solved Alex ME Quote: Yeah it was an armour.ini failur(talked to jerad grey; or somebody like that) and there was no way that I was disarming c4 in one sec because when I was playing nobody was taking any damage from me and stuff like that like I said above I right click because I always right click in vechs. (Just out of habit). I mod renegade maps so I would know how not to get the fix the zero bug, would be to replace the ALWAYS folder in the mod folder of the renegade LEVEL edit forlder (If that makes any sense) So I am not some stupid noob that made my own hack with no clue how to get the zero bug not to work. I don't hack I am afraid and and that I lost 1/2 of my hp because a havoc shot me in the back when we were in the PP. I think you were the sakura. So yeah I had no hack. So I feel that since what you banned me for was hacking in the pp has been proven wrong I feel that you must unbann me. The choice is yours however but still. You stated that I lost hp because of a damage hack or whatever but really it was just a havoc defending a beacon so yeah. Also, is there really a crime with right clicking? You keep saying "You were right Clicking the whole time" so? They do the same things. My right finger seems to react faster than the other one. lol. So again I ask, can you please reconsider. I don't know if it matters but I am also a well tested mod on the [DWC] servers darkworld.dsgaming.us Ulitmate Alex Quote: I never said YOU TOOK DEMAGE I said you were RIGHTCLICKING the ENTIRE time and your story "i use rightclick because i got told its better" this is bullshit, your demage gets better when you use rightclick HACKS. But saying "YEAH HE TOLD ME THATS BETTER" is bullshit. ME Quote: What are you saying, I right click and I suffered a loss of hp? So the havoc behind me had nothing to do with it hmmm? No in ren forums someone said that vechs seemed to do better when you right clicked so I just fell into the habit in always right clicking. Quote: you were rightclicking the ENTIRE time, disarming C4 in seconds, same for beacons. That was the thing I took no damage and I could DO not damage either. So what you said above is impossible. Ninjahh Quote: Quote: Originally Posted by TheOnLy4 The only way I could have hacked was with big beacons hack I guess, which is dumb and stuff. You're admitting that you COULD'VE Hacked.. Which is against the rules and rule number 1 on getting banned.. Quote: Originally Posted by TheOnLy4 I don't hack I have never hacked. (Except that one time on that EKT server a year ago) Lying again, you DID or MIGHT have hacked as you stated earlier, (See other quote) Quote: Originally Posted by TheOnLy4 And there was no way that I was disarming c4 in one sec because when I was playing nobody was taking any damage from me and stuff like that This totally makes no sense, What does damage have to do with disarming a beacon in 1 second? Nothing! Quote: Originally Posted by TheOnLy4 So I am not some stupid noob that made my own hack with no clue how to get the zero bug not to work. You are so NOT knowing what the hell you are talking about, the zero bug is a BUG, means you DON'T want it to work! Quote: Originally Posted by TheOnLy4 You stated that I lost hp because of a damage hack or whatever but really it was just a havoc defending a beacon so yeah. You are so talking bull**** you don't LOSE damage with a damage hack, you GIVE damage and repair faster, you know what i'm talking about, you're screwing up your own dispute.. Conclusion; You are saying things that are so NOT Relevant to your case, and you've been kicked before for the same thing. And you admitted to use cheats/hacks. Your ban will stay and we no longer wish to see you ingame. Regards, Ninjahh
I want you opinion dammit and not some stupid ass Quote: k
The Elite Officer wrote on Mon, 03 March 2008 15:48 I want you opinion dammit and not some stupid ass Quote: k k (srsly you knew that was comming)
Server owners can't really trust you until they are literally able to see if you have any hacks on your computer, my advice is just not to play on their server.
What's with all the "K"s in here? You're all RACISTS!
Canadacdn wrote on Mon, 03 March 2008 16:48 What's with all the "K"s in here? You're all RACISTS! Another Great post Canada XD Dude you Rock @ Posting here XD
Storm's community is bad anyway. If you go in the history of their community, you know why (money stealing etc) Their servers might be ok/cool, but some persons aren't trustworthy there.
Quote: TOO LONG DIDN'T READ!
St0rm is Boring.. but many other Servers too, because 60% of all servers use the same commands like !Build etc. FnFalls or n00bstories, XpHaZe and Jelly Rock!
found this post from ninjahh, apparently an admin there: Quote: Clanwars.cc is a fraud, they banned the clan I was in, for being too good at sniping, we were number 1 of all time clan, and they banned us.. I don't know where to begin saying what's wrong with this statement...
Nice DH TEO: Quote: (+St0rmServ02) [04Kill]: ThEOnLy4 (Mobile Artillery) destroyed a Medium Tank (Driver: Painkid33 - Owner: Painkid33 - Last Damage: 788.00) -Ghost-
Ghostshaw wrote on Wed, 05 March 2008 08:23 Nice DH TEO: Quote: (+St0rmServ02) [04Kill]: ThEOnLy4 (Mobile Artillery) destroyed a Medium Tank (Driver: Painkid33 - Owner: Painkid33 - Last Damage: 788.00) -Ghost- /me despices cheaters
Quote: (+St0rmServ02) [04Kill]: ThEOnLy4 (Mobile Artillery) destroyed a Medium Tank (Driver: Painkid33 - Owner: Painkid33 - Last Damage: 788.00) Owned.
CarrierII wrote on Wed, 05 March 2008 05:05 The tank, or the cheater? Ban pl0x.
I was refering to TEO, but now that I think about it, both, I guess.
I can not judge str0rm server from anything other then the things you post here. If all you posted here is the unedited truth, then I myself conclude this: I think their action to ban you is vague, right clicking is no prove. If you indeed (as Alex says) were disarming C4 and beacons in seconds, then they should provide the prove of that. But I must say I have my doubts about their moderating capabilities. When I saw the name painkid in your story, I immediately remembered that name because of a cheat history. Goztow provides some prove here, and I could look up and show you some things too. And on UNRULES I have seen that name in the ban section as well. I would ban that kid upon sight. Any mod that has been around for longer would probably, or would at least know to keep an eye on him. From your story I get the impression they were focusing their attention on you. I think the best thing is indeed to say goodbye to that server. Play somewhere else. Maybe with more lag, but with different moderators.
No they edited their logs and added another 8 so they could frame me.
lol, i was just banned yesterday from that sad sad server, because they said that i knew where every1 was.. it was field and i have clearscope, ofc i no where they r noobs, they also said that i can kill 2 people in like 5 seconds, so i was banned, sad communtity, honestly i think half of their mods are drunk 90% of the time, glad to c i'm not alone.
I read up to the part about right clicking. I think it is stupid to blame someone for cheating because they are using their right click to fire. I use my right click to fire most of the time... I find it easier when I am sitting farther back either in a tank or something. Both buttons provide the same function for most weapons.. so what if you use the one that most other people don't use... it doesn't mean you're cheating... I also have a friend who changed his controls and the right mouse button is their primary fire.
That's what I'd do if I were to make a cheat, I'd simply swap out my primary fire with my secondary. Cheat with LEFT and fight with RIGHT that'd really screw them up. XD Well, as you can see, it's a classic St0rm "cover up". Those guys think they're so special because they can detect when you're right clicking and thus they let their big EGO get in the way of truth and justice. They don't care about the truth, they're as crooked as the United States gov't, covering things up and telling you what to believe and providing a large lack of evidence to support their cause. I think that this is plain retarded, they're constantly trying to keep things all "hush hush" to supposedly protect their members. I laugh at this, if they wanted to protect their members then they wouldn't take banning so lightly. Truly childish. I have begun to suspect that they're high, drunk, or retarded, either way it's the same outcome of who they are and act like. This is what a "melting-pot" looks like, this IS what America is like on the inside. SO DON'T EAT THE FRIGGIN' DESSERT, THERE'S NO CREAM FILLING ON THE INSIDE!!! I still wonder why there are some good people still at St0rm, but they always say, there is some good everywhere...
I always right click with an MRLS. I could see why people would, especially if you're left handed.
Homey wrote on Wed, 05 March 2008 19:11 I always right click with an MRLS. I could see why people would, especially if you're left handed. Right click firing the MRLS only on 1 side of the MRLS. Aka easier to shoot around corners.
I can use either hands with a mouse, I usually use my left hand in games. I don't switch my buttons, but I could, would I then be cheating? According to St0rm I would be
I often swap between left and right click as well, it relaxes me tbh .
I know then sf1 said that he would not unbann me becuase I made this post in renforums lol lamos.
Bah, they act so childish. They always claim to handle things professionally, but they lie. My community was founded on professionalism and I can honestly say St0rm is far from professional. It's a shattered mirror, not cracked, shattered.
Brandon wrote on Wed, 05 March 2008 19:06 That's what I'd do if I were to make a cheat, I'd simply swap out my primary fire with my secondary. Cheat with LEFT and fight with RIGHT that'd really screw them up. XD Well, as you can see, it's a classic St0rm "cover up". Those guys think they're so special because they can detect when you're right clicking and thus they let their big EGO get in the way of truth and justice. They don't care about the truth, they're as crooked as the United States gov't, covering things up and telling you what to believe and providing a large lack of evidence to support their cause. I think that this is plain retarded, they're constantly trying to keep things all "hush hush" to supposedly protect their members. I laugh at this, if they wanted to protect their members then they wouldn't take banning so lightly. Truly childish. I have begun to suspect that they're high, drunk, or retarded, either way it's the same outcome of who they are and act like. This is what a "melting-pot" looks like, this IS what America is like on the inside. SO DON'T EAT THE FRIGGIN' DESSERT, THERE'S NO CREAM FILLING ON THE INSIDE!!! I still wonder why there are some good people still at St0rm, but they always say, there is some good everywhere... Honestly reading this shit got me angry and I am angry now. I'm tired of all the shit that gets said here about St0rmgaming. First of all, YURIVA777, or Brandon, STFU. I'm tired of your shit. I mean we've been through this but you claim to be friends with Wilo and you get all buddy buddy with him and then you have made so many posts like this its not even funny. "Bah, they act so childish. They always claim to handle things professionally, but they lie. My community was founded on professionalism and I can honestly say St0rm is far from professional. It's a shattered mirror, not cracked, shattered." You're COMMUNITY is NOTHING! Yuri Community sucked balls, you dropped that, wwgaming sucked, and I have no idea what you are on right now. You ALWAYS tried to advertise on our forums, I will admit, you are a good map maker these days, but all I can remember is you being on teamspeak asking wilo a question every five seconds approximately two years ago. Get over yourself. Nobody liked you at St0rm, sorry for that. I don't like you either. That doesn't mean you have to get on here and talk shit. We don't use right click detection to ban people and I hope you all don't have the wrong impression. Its just a tool, many people right click for good reasons. As for HaTes' case, I urge you all to watch him if he comes into your server, *cheat name removed*fosho. MSwindows, last time I recall you were NO T banned, so I think you are actually the same person as "TheOnly4". Here is the Pm exchange: (From ThEOnLy4) "Hello my nick is ThEOnLy4 and I was banned for hacking wich I do not do. I have stated these things: A. I hacked in an EKT server a year ago and I got banned for which I am sorry for. B. I had the zero bug one game and your mods keep saying that I hack and that is why and that I was disarming everything in 1 sec which is a lie because I could give no damage and I could not reapir anything. C. Your mods state that just beacuse I use right click then I am hacking and I use right click all the time. D. They said on one map (siege) that I hacked and was killing people really quickly and disarming beacons really quickly (10 sec) in which case I had a nod tech so that nod techs can disarm a beacon in about 10 sec. E. When I get mad I call people 'hacker' and "I am gonna go turn my hack on now" So yes I do not hack, I am autistic so I have trouble understanding things and people. I never hacked on your servers and never did anything bad (except of the EKT hacking) in renegade. You ban disputes thread says "Please don't bash or falme any users" which from the start your mods have done that and has called me names like scum, liar and a couple of other names. I came to you beacuse you are over all of them. They said that they have a video and other stuff and I thing this is unfair. The just keep conering me and trying to burn me for something I did not do. I play fairly and I work hard on being the best player. I mean sure I don't hit everyone all the time and I can't snipe of vech whore. But I am the guy that stays in base and defends it and I am the guy that sits behind the tanks and repair them. I am the guy that buys back turret for the team and camps in a building reparing it when all others are gone. I do my best and I loose my temper and call people names and other stuff like that, but I would never hack after that EKT problem and all I believe that this is the best thing for me is renegade. I have dial up so your server is the only server that I can play in this is why I ask, even if you or your mods still don't believe me I just ask can you please give me a second chance even thought I did nothing wrong but call people names and stuff like that. I just can I please have a second chance and an unbann. So I thank you for your time and for listeaning to what I had to say. My Reply : Look, I read through that whole thread. Ninjahh, UltimateAlex, and a few others were being extremely unnecessarily rude to you. I am not sure if you were cheating, it seems you probably were but it is not 100%. I was considering unbanning you until I read your post saying you went to the Renegade Forums... I read your post there. http://www.renegadeforums.com/index....rt=0&rid=21512 "I got banned for unfairness and this was on the storm server NO ONE PLAY ON THERE SERVERS THEY ARE UNFAIR!" More evidence was posted on our forums after this and it seems you were cheating. I realize you may be frustrated, but this is NOT the way to go. This is immature and childish. And that just earned you a stay on your ban. I am sorry for the abrasiveness of my moderators, they went over the line, but many factors point to you cheating. Try joining when the banlist may be cleared in a few months. SF1 His second reply: Thanks, like I said I was autistic so I don't understand, but I know that noboby on ren forums will listean to me and I just feel that your mods edited the logs so that the could frame me. seeing that what people have said on ren forums. Quote: (From "Dutch Neon")Storm's community is bad anyway. If you go in the history of their community, you know why (money stealing etc) Their servers might be ok/cool, but some persons aren't trustworthy there. Next..... (he quotes Spoony) I don't know where to begin saying what's wrong with this statement... And finally.... (he quotes reckneya) So yes many people is giving storm a second look and thought. (Not to be mean or threating) Yes I am chilish, I am only 13 so. But yeah I just felt that this was unfiar and that I would like a second chance. ---------------------------------------------------------- Look guys, sorry for this long ass post but I am pretty angry right now and fed up with all the shittalking, a lot of it started by angry kids like the one above. The TheOnly4 ban was not a great job by my moderators but in the end I do believe he was cheating. We did not ban him based on right clicking and never would, thats idiotic as you all have said. I really hope some of these rumors that get spread clear up, I am the head mod for St0rms Renegade now and have been since August, and I don't see any corruption in my modlist. I've been with St0rm for awhile and I know a few of you,and yeah, there have been issues in the past, but a lot of times people here just say "St0rm Sux, I got bant 4 years ago cuz sum mod was like, UR CHEATING, BANT" Obviosuly we can't know what happened especially when ya dont see names and you get the idea. Again, sorry for the long post and i'm kinda rambling on but I hope I cleared some things up. Alex (SF1eagles)
SF1eagles wrote on Thu, 06 March 2008 17:32 Nobody liked you at St0rm, sorry for that. I don't like you either. That doesn't mean you have to get on here and talk shit. That doesn't give you the right to either. You may be trying to insult him, but I am also apart of his community and thus insult me too. & also (not directed at SF1), what if you have a different kind of mouse? You know, those fancy gaming mice with the 3,000 buttons on them? How can they tell you are "right clicking." Which right click is considered cheating? I'm not saying anything bad about the St0rm community. I never played there, and thus I have no right to do so. But I think having any argument against an accused cheater saying that they used their right click to fire is total crap.
Good point, its just if you look through the history of his posts, thats all it is about St0rm, I got really tired of it. I didn't think of that though.
Oh the drama
Meh, banning TEO for whatever reason is a good move on st0rm's part. Fuck, it does't even NEED a reason outside of "He's TEO/Tiberian_Robot/MSwindows"...
Really i can just add this, not all communitys are perfect and professionsal and really most mods act like toltal dumbasses most of the time. People its just Ren its a 6 year old game who gives a flying fuck. What gets me how is spreading bad rap about communitys improve your ego or your community?
Guys, to be honest, some info on the right click thing. It's not the right mouse button that works. I can't tell you what it really does because obviously you guys didn't say it either (SF1) but it doesn't work on the right mouse, even if you set your right mouse options to Left mouse, it would react on the left mouse.. it's not like what you guys think..
So... I think its time that I said something. This is all stupid, there are so many renegade servers out there go find another one to play in. It is not my fault that there are so many cheats our there and cheaters that we have to take the chance every time we ban someone that we are banning someone who is not cheating. You need to understand, my moderation staff is made up of teenagers and some adults and its not perfect but they try to be fair and do their job. Yes they can argue and this can be a huge drama. I am sorry that you got banned and that you can't play on our server anymore. The logs where not edited and I am afraid to say that you had to be cheating. There is no weapon warhead in game that does that damage but a beacon or a modded weapon. As far as I can say, yes I have a horrible rep but that was back when I was a kid and I still do because people don't forget. I have changed a lot and people need to realize that but no one is willing to give me a chance. So I simply leave it at this regarding that issue. The next issue is Brandon... You used to come on my Teamspeak to start a pissing contest with me left and right about stuff, you can ask Reborn, Zack and a few others that I am one of the most knowledgeable people regarding level edit and getting around it. And this post: Quote: Brandon Post subject: Re: New Irc ServerPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:07 am Site Admin Joined: Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:00 am Posts: 106 Location: United States Not me and Wilo, we're fine. Wilost0rm and I are pals, it's those moderators and administrators of his that are the erupting problem that we decided to avoid. Wilo doesn't have time to play defender so we're not going to chance it. Its my community an when you have a problem with my staff or my services it effects me. So please back off, I am sorry that your community did not work out for you and that I have been able to recover from blow after blow over the years. Everyone just needs to relax and stop this little pissing contest and war that has been started. NO ONE IS PERFECT. NO SERVER IS PERFECT. NO GAME IS PERFECT. So just chill. I know I am gonna get flamed and called a Homo because that is the only defence a lot of you have, but I hope you take the time to just end this here and let it be. Regards, Wilo S. St0rm Network Administrator www.St0rm.net
Wilo wrote on Thu, 06 March 2008 20:10 So... I think its time that I said something. This is all stupid, there are so many renegade servers out there go find another one to play in. It is not my fault that there are so many cheats our there and cheaters that we have to take the chance every time we ban someone that we are banning someone who is not cheating. You need to understand, my moderation staff is made up of teenagers and some adults and its not perfect but they try to be fair and do their job. Yes they can argue and this can be a huge drama. I am sorry that you got banned and that you can't play on our server anymore. The logs where not edited and I am afraid to say that you had to be cheating. There is no weapon warhead in game that does that damage but a beacon or a modded weapon. As far as I can say, yes I have a horrible rep but that was back when I was a kid and I still do because people don't forget. I have changed a lot and people need to realize that but no one is willing to give me a chance. So I simply leave it at this regarding that issue. The next issue is Brandon... You used to come on my Teamspeak to start a pissing contest with me left and right about stuff, you can ask Reborn, Zack and a few others that I am one of the most knowledgeable people regarding level edit and getting around it. And this post: Quote: Brandon Post subject: Re: New Irc ServerPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:07 am Site Admin Joined: Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:00 am Posts: 106 Location: United States Not me and Wilo, we're fine. Wilost0rm and I are pals, it's those moderators and administrators of his that are the erupting problem that we decided to avoid. Wilo doesn't have time to play defender so we're not going to chance it. Its my community an when you have a problem with my staff or my services it effects me. So please back off, I am sorry that your community did not work out for you and that I have been able to recover from blow after blow over the years. Everyone just needs to relax and stop this little pissing contest and war that has been started. NO ONE IS PERFECT. NO SERVER IS PERFECT. NO GAME IS PERFECT. So just chill. I know I am gonna get flamed and called a Homo because that is the only defence a lot of you have, but I hope you take the time to just end this here and let it be. Regards, Wilo S. St0rm Network Administrator www.St0rm.net I agree with some of your points wilo. I do understand that you're not perfect. No one is. But, your staff and moderation team do represent you. :/ So, if they act like dorks/fags/other-terms-that-are-not-suitable-for-kids, it reflects poorly on you. :\ But I do agree that you're a good guy. I also agree with Brandon saying why he left St0rmNet's IRC. I can't think of anything else to say. :v ~Zack
Again, if you get banned from a server, and think the people there are jackasses, good for you- Go find a server that isn't full of jackasses then. Good luck though, because in every place, there's a very high probability that you'll find atleast someone who doesn't like you, or someone you don't like. Also, it's a good thing Wilo actually posted here- It shows that some of the st0rm server moderators/admins are capable of taking some responsibility. Even if there's some bad mods/admins, there usually is in every server. Take EKTRPG for example. There's some there who like to use their admin powers a tad bit too much. Doesn't mean all of us do.
Wilo, I still have nothing against you. You're a respectable guy. I just don't like your choice of staff but it's your choice and not mine. I have to agree with Zack however, they represent you and if they do a poor job of representation then it's on you. So it goes both ways honestly, so you are right and Zack is right. Yuri Community died, yes. Anyways, I admit that back before I knew anything about LevelEdit I would ask Wilo questions on TeamSpeak, however I didn't get much of a response in most cases. How I became good at LevelEdit was I took a year and left everything behind (including my community, thus Yuri Community failed) and then I taught myself LevelEdit. I do acknowledge that Wilo is a knowledgeable, if not the most knowledgeable, person in LevelEdit and I don't despise him for that. I'm going to clean the slate and start fresh and dis-acknowledge previous history.
SF1eagles wrote on Thu, 06 March 2008 16:32 Brandon wrote on Wed, 05 March 2008 19:06 That's what I'd do if I were to make a cheat, I'd simply swap out my primary fire with my secondary. Cheat with LEFT and fight with RIGHT that'd really screw them up. XD Well, as you can see, it's a classic St0rm "cover up". Those guys think they're so special because they can detect when you're right clicking and thus they let their big EGO get in the way of truth and justice. They don't care about the truth, they're as crooked as the United States gov't, covering things up and telling you what to believe and providing a large lack of evidence to support their cause. I think that this is plain retarded, they're constantly trying to keep things all "hush hush" to supposedly protect their members. I laugh at this, if they wanted to protect their members then they wouldn't take banning so lightly. Truly childish. I have begun to suspect that they're high, drunk, or retarded, either way it's the same outcome of who they are and act like. This is what a "melting-pot" looks like, this IS what America is like on the inside. SO DON'T EAT THE FRIGGIN' DESSERT, THERE'S NO CREAM FILLING ON THE INSIDE!!! I still wonder why there are some good people still at St0rm, but they always say, there is some good everywhere... Honestly reading this shit got me angry and I am angry now. I'm tired of all the shit that gets said here about St0rmgaming. First of all, YURIVA777, or Brandon, STFU. I'm tired of your shit. I mean we've been through this but you claim to be friends with Wilo and you get all buddy buddy with him and then you have made so many posts like this its not even funny. "Bah, they act so childish. They always claim to handle things professionally, but they lie. My community was founded on professionalism and I can honestly say St0rm is far from professional. It's a shattered mirror, not cracked, shattered." You're COMMUNITY is NOTHING! Yuri Community sucked balls, you dropped that, wwgaming sucked, and I have no idea what you are on right now. You ALWAYS tried to advertise on our forums, I will admit, you are a good map maker these days, but all I can remember is you being on teamspeak asking wilo a question every five seconds approximately two years ago. Get over yourself. Nobody liked you at St0rm, sorry for that. I don't like you either. That doesn't mean you have to get on here and talk shit. We don't use right click detection to ban people and I hope you all don't have the wrong impression. Its just a tool, many people right click for good reasons. As for HaTes' case, I urge you all to watch him if he comes into your server, *cheat name removed*fosho. MSwindows, last time I recall you were NO T banned, so I think you are actually the same person as "TheOnly4". Here is the Pm exchange: (From ThEOnLy4) "Hello my nick is ThEOnLy4 and I was banned for hacking wich I do not do. I have stated these things: A. I hacked in an EKT server a year ago and I got banned for which I am sorry for. B. I had the zero bug one game and your mods keep saying that I hack and that is why and that I was disarming everything in 1 sec which is a lie because I could give no damage and I could not reapir anything. C. Your mods state that just beacuse I use right click then I am hacking and I use right click all the time. D. They said on one map (siege) that I hacked and was killing people really quickly and disarming beacons really quickly (10 sec) in which case I had a nod tech so that nod techs can disarm a beacon in about 10 sec. E. When I get mad I call people 'hacker' and "I am gonna go turn my hack on now" So yes I do not hack, I am autistic so I have trouble understanding things and people. I never hacked on your servers and never did anything bad (except of the EKT hacking) in renegade. You ban disputes thread says "Please don't bash or falme any users" which from the start your mods have done that and has called me names like scum, liar and a couple of other names. I came to you beacuse you are over all of them. They said that they have a video and other stuff and I thing this is unfair. The just keep conering me and trying to burn me for something I did not do. I play fairly and I work hard on being the best player. I mean sure I don't hit everyone all the time and I can't snipe of vech whore. But I am the guy that stays in base and defends it and I am the guy that sits behind the tanks and repair them. I am the guy that buys back turret for the team and camps in a building reparing it when all others are gone. I do my best and I loose my temper and call people names and other stuff like that, but I would never hack after that EKT problem and all I believe that this is the best thing for me is renegade. I have dial up so your server is the only server that I can play in this is why I ask, even if you or your mods still don't believe me I just ask can you please give me a second chance even thought I did nothing wrong but call people names and stuff like that. I just can I please have a second chance and an unbann. So I thank you for your time and for listeaning to what I had to say. My Reply : Look, I read through that whole thread. Ninjahh, UltimateAlex, and a few others were being extremely unnecessarily rude to you. I am not sure if you were cheating, it seems you probably were but it is not 100%. I was considering unbanning you until I read your post saying you went to the Renegade Forums... I read your post there. http://www.renegadeforums.com/index....rt=0&rid=21512 "I got banned for unfairness and this was on the storm server NO ONE PLAY ON THERE SERVERS THEY ARE UNFAIR!" More evidence was posted on our forums after this and it seems you were cheating. I realize you may be frustrated, but this is NOT the way to go. This is immature and childish. And that just earned you a stay on your ban. I am sorry for the abrasiveness of my moderators, they went over the line, but many factors point to you cheating. Try joining when the banlist may be cleared in a few months. SF1 His second reply: Thanks, like I said I was autistic so I don't understand, but I know that noboby on ren forums will listean to me and I just feel that your mods edited the logs so that the could frame me. seeing that what people have said on ren forums. Quote: (From "Dutch Neon")Storm's community is bad anyway. If you go in the history of their community, you know why (money stealing etc) Their servers might be ok/cool, but some persons aren't trustworthy there. Next..... (he quotes Spoony) I don't know where to begin saying what's wrong with this statement... And finally.... (he quotes reckneya) So yes many people is giving storm a second look and thought. (Not to be mean or threating) Yes I am chilish, I am only 13 so. But yeah I just felt that this was unfiar and that I would like a second chance. ---------------------------------------------------------- Look guys, sorry for this long ass post but I am pretty angry right now and fed up with all the shittalking, a lot of it started by angry kids like the one above. The TheOnly4 ban was not a great job by my moderators but in the end I do believe he was cheating. We did not ban him based on right clicking and never would, thats idiotic as you all have said. I really hope some of these rumors that get spread clear up, I am the head mod for St0rms Renegade now and have been since August, and I don't see any corruption in my modlist. I've been with St0rm for awhile and I know a few of you,and yeah, there have been issues in the past, but a lot of times people here just say "St0rm Sux, I got bant 4 years ago cuz sum mod was like, UR CHEATING, BANT" Obviosuly we can't know what happened especially when ya dont see names and you get the idea. Again, sorry for the long post and i'm kinda rambling on but I hope I cleared some things up. Alex (SF1eagles) Im not referring to everyone at the st0rm community. And still, its my opinion. I wont stop people from joining your community servers, but its my opinion that your commmunity is bad, known from the history of the st0rm community, thats all. I understand that creating a community is hard, i can't do it myself. If people have a good time at your server, i wont whine about it. Also, keep in mind that BIATCH is not 100% correct, Im not sure if it has been patched, But i got banned, well 'was' from Fnfall's Marathon server while i used to mod there. After picking up a weapon pack, BIATCH didnt reconized me having changed weapons. So after using a volt rifle, the thing thought i had a auto rifle with volt rifle damage.. >_> Wondering, what if i join your server, and use my RMB? if i use it constantly, do i get banned?
E4rm Dutch_Neon that would have had to be faulty coding on fnfalls side since normally a weapon is given first on the server and then on the client.... -Ghost-
Ghostshaw wrote on Sat, 08 March 2008 14:27 E4rm Dutch_Neon that would have had to be faulty coding on fnfalls side since normally a weapon is given first on the server and then on the client.... -Ghost- Not sure if it was the thing why i was banned for it, as i never saw the logs. But it also had to do with the m60 on a apc, i drove some minutes i was banned. I think stewie will probably know what happened then. He also asked me if i was sure i didnt used any cheat or change in my data map. and i didnt. This happened last year by the way, somewhere at the start of BIATCH for other servers (release).
Personally I wouldn't ban you and I would hope my moderators wouldn't. Yes, it would make them suspect you/keep an eye on you more, if you were banned just for that though, it would be lifted by myself no doubt.
But obvisilouly you would because they did ban me for right clicking and they said that most likely that I had hacks. That was before they found the other stuff anyway. So yes they fail. End of story.