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FUCKING BULLSHIT Islamic pig fucking laws
Quote: (CNN) -- A Saudi Arabian human rights attorney is asking the government to allow him to represent a woman who was gang-raped -- and then sentenced to prison for speaking out about the case. Human rights groups want Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah to drop charges against the rape victim. The attorney, Abdulrahman al-Lahim, had his license revoked last week by a judge for speaking to the Saudi-controlled media about the case, al-Lahim told CNN. The judge more than doubled the sentence against al-Lahim's 19-year-old client because she spoke to the media about the case, a court source told Arab News, an English-language Middle Eastern daily newspaper. The woman -- who was initially sentenced in October 2006 to 90 lashes -- had her sentenced increased to 200 lashes and was ordered to serve six months in prison under Saudi Arabia's strict Islamic law. "We were shocked," al-Lahim said of the increased sentence. CNN has been unable to reach Saudi government officials for comment on this report, despite repeated requests. Al-Lahim had petitioned the court to sentence the attackers to the death penalty, but instead the court agreed to increase their jail sentences, which had been two to three years, to two to nine years, al-Lahim said. The case has sparked outrage among human rights groups. "Barring the lawyer from representing the victim in court is almost equivalent to the rape crime itself," said Fawzeyah al-Oyouni, founding member of the newly formed Saudi Association for the Defense of Women's Rights. "This is not just about the Qatif girl, it's about every woman in Saudi Arabia," she said. "We're fearing for our lives and the lives of our sisters and our daughters and every Saudi woman out there. We're afraid of going out in the streets." Human Rights Watch said it has called on Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah "to immediely void the verdict and drop all charges against the rape victim and to order the court to end its harassment of her lawyer." The woman, who is married, and an unrelated man were abducted and she was raped by a group of seven men more than a year ago, the lawyer said. The male victim was also given an increased sentence of 200 lashes and six months in prison, al-Lahim said. The man and woman were attacked after they met so she could retrieve an old photograph of herself from him, according to al-Lahim. Citing phone records from the police investigation, al-Lahim said the man was trying to blackmail his client. He noted the photo she was trying to retrieve was harmless and did not show his client in any compromising position. Al-Lahim said the man tried to blame his client for insisting on meeting him that day. It is illegal for a woman to meet with an unrelated male under Saudi's Islamic law. Al-Lahim has been ordered to attend a disciplinary hearing at the Ministry of Justice next month, where he faces a possible three-year suspension and disbarment, according to Human Rights Watch. "Currently she doesn't have a lawyer, and I feel they're doing this to isolate her and deprive her from her basic rights," he said. "We will not accept this judgment and I'll do my best to continue representing her because justice needs to take place." He said the handling of the case is a direct contradiction of judicial reforms announced by the Saudi king earlier this month. "The Ministry of Justice needs to have a very clear standing regarding this case because I consider this decision to be judiciary mutiny against the reform that King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz started and against Saudi women who are being victimized because of such decisions," he said. Saudi Arabia's Islamic law or sharia is not written and, therefore, subject to a wide array of interpretations. Human Rights Watch points out that a judge in Jeddah threw out a lawyer simply because he was a member of the Ismaili faith, a branch of Shia Islam. Under Saudi law, women are subject to numerous restrictions, including a strict dress code, a prohibition against driving and a requirement that they get a man's permission to travel or have surgery. Women are also not allowed to testify in court unless it is about a private matter that was not observed by a man, and they are not allowed to vote. The Saudi government recently has taken some steps toward bettering the situation of women in the kingdom, including the establishment earlier this year of special courts to handle domestic abuse cases, adoption of a new labor law that addresses working women's rights and creation of a human rights commission. Christoph Wilcke of Human Rights Watch praised the female rape victim and her attorney for speaking out about the case, which he said may be indicative of "many injustices that we still don't know about." "It's not only one court, it is the Saudi government that is fully behind punishing a woman who's been raped (and) punishing the lawyer who's trying to help her and doing that both because they've spoken to the media," Wilcke told CNN. "And if they hadn't spoken to the media, we wouldn't know about it." http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/11/19/saudi.rape.victim/index.html Like fucking bullshit...that's all I can say. These cave dwellers must be killed. How damn retarded can these religious whacks get? Now we all know...and the world knows the horrors that go on in this "moderate" Arab country. Moderate my ass...they are all backwardly cave dwellers using some shit religion to control people. The very fact that the sentences were increased for the victim for going to the media is a clear sign that the Saudi government is behind this. Think of all those poor folks who suffered similar fates but their stories were covered up...
Re: FUCKING BULLSHIT Islamic pig fucking laws
Saudi's run by a bunch of sleazy medieval gangsters, and what's worse is we (the UK) do everything we can to keep them happy. Like I said in the other thread... sell them top-of-the-range jet fighters, treat them as honoured guests, call off corruption investigations... ...because we need their oil They even lectured Europe on human rights recently saying Muslims in Europe aren't freely able to practice their religion. I don't know what's funnier: the fact that Europe bends over so far backwards for Muslims that it's going to end in catastrophe and the Saudis pretend they don't realise this, or the fact Saudi Arabia has the gall to criticise anybody else's human rights policy at all...
That system of law is so fucked up. For those who aren't sure, the woman is guilty of adultery, despite the fact she didn't want to do anything. Also, what Spoony says is so true. Edit, for Romaner... the laws are probably in the Koran. You have to learn Arabic (i think) to read it as translations are forbidden.
if you ask me the judge himself should be sentenced to gang rape and 200 lashes then another 9 years in jail if he so much so as tells a soul about it. i mean that would be a good punishment right? you know maybe if US would someday tell the Saudis that this is not acceptable and they should start to adjust their judicial sustem. atleast by firstly writing their damn laws down so that not everyone can interpret them as they please.
CarrierII wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 14:56 That system of law is so fucked up. For those who aren't sure, the woman is guilty of adultery, despite the fact she didn't want to do anything. Also, what Spoony says is so true. the good old Muslim Council of Britain (for Americans, it's basically the UK version of CAIR) has issued yet more demands... islamic values for all children in the country, no drinking alcohol in public, more "modest" clothing (i.e. walking around in a tent, we can't have women wearing clothes that look good because they're basically asking to get raped)... this is what I've been saying for ages. Islam thinks that its rules apply to everyone, not just Muslims, and we bend over so far backwards to accommodate them that our government will gladly sacrifice everything that makes Britain the awesome place it is (i.e. everything Islam isn't) to get the Muslim vote.
That's stupid, Australia's immigration policy is great; You can live here if... YOU ACCEPT OUR CULTURE! That, on reflection, is fair, it's thier country afterall, not yours....
Lets nuke them.
wait...how is this the woman's fault again? Men gang-rape woman, and she gets the punishment? What the hell kind of logic is that? I'd be all for them getting 200 lashes and then put in front of a firing squad, but why is this blame on the woman? She was just minding her own business. The Mid-East is fucking ridiculous.
If you think that's bad US drug policies are even worse. Quote: Saudi's run by a bunch of sleazy medieval gangsters, and what's worse is we (the UK) do everything we can to keep them happy. The US shouldn't be accusing any sovereign state of violating human rights when it supports oppressive regimes just for their natural resources.
Jecht wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 19:41 wait...how is this the woman's fault again? Men gang-rape woman, and she gets the punishment? What the hell kind of logic is that? I'd be all for them getting 200 lashes and then put in front of a firing squad, but why is this blame on the woman? She was just minding her own business. The Mid-East is fucking ridiculous. It isn't her fault, what a fucked up government.
Homey wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 22:17 Jecht wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 19:41 wait...how is this the woman's fault again? Men gang-rape woman, and she gets the punishment? What the hell kind of logic is that? I'd be all for them getting 200 lashes and then put in front of a firing squad, but why is this blame on the woman? She was just minding her own business. The Mid-East is fucking ridiculous. It isn't her fault, what a fucked up government. It's the fucking religion that is behind this. If you look at the problems in the Middle East, you can see it's much more than oppressive regimes. Failure to see the root of the problem is why these problems remain unsolved and more problems come up. If Jerusalem and Israel were just a real-estate issue, then it would have been solved long time ago. But no! We have idiots who think God gave it to them and also it's holy cuz pimpster MuhaMAD went up to paradise from that rock. FUCKING BULLSHIT. Burn these muthafukas. If we say something bad about Islam, these Muslim activists bastards would be on our asses trying to push their fucking "Islam is a peaceful religion" bullshit. What they don't get is that the Koran was a highly-modified version of the Torah/Bible (damned Jewish poetry) that was very cleverely written by that pimpster MuhaMAD to control the masses. What's a better way to get men to fight on your side other then writing up fucking laws that give them total control? Saudi Arabia was a ragtag bunch of kingdoms which MuhaMAD managed to unite by mind-controlling the men with his writings. Now the descendants of thse men terrorise the population (especially women). I am convinced that if these Arabs don't change and they keep trying to force their filth on others, I can see them completely wiped out OR reduced to shit by the year 2100. Only Allah knows how many of his slaves saw this post and were inspired to "slaughter" the poster lamb-style.
To be honest, I'm more afraid of right-wing, evangelical Christian 'conservatives' who preach armageddon, and Fanatical Jewish Zionists who believe in a 'Greater Israel' ...
nikki6ixx wrote on Tue, 20 November 2007 00:32 To be honest, I'm more afraid of right-wing, evangelical Christian 'conservatives' who preach armageddon, and Fanatical Jewish Zionists who believe in a 'Greater Israel' ... These muthafukas piss me off MORE than Allah's slaves. These people believe in the Rapture and they are all "end time" fanatics. Like get a life and think outside the litte Bible box retards. My anger against these Christians really shot up especially during Israel's short and humilating war against Hezbollah in the summer of 2006. All those end-time fanatics went online, they went on rallies, and they went to the media saying the "Jesus is coming-war is starting!" bullshit. Hell, even idiot CNN aired these fanatics who were all hyped out about the fact that war was starting and these idiots kept talking about Armageddon and the end-times. These Christian fanatics do more to spread the fire than solve it as it it apparent by their blatant excitement at any Israeli-Arab war related news. These warlusting pigs actually ENJOYED the war rather then worry about any of the consequences. And I don't even want to talk about those warmongering Zionist criminal pigs. Greater Israel my ass haha...in this aspect, a nuclear Iran can teach them a lot of self-control.
Spoony wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 15:13 CarrierII wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 14:56 That system of law is so fucked up. For those who aren't sure, the woman is guilty of adultery, despite the fact she didn't want to do anything. Also, what Spoony says is so true. the good old Muslim Council of Britain (for Americans, it's basically the UK version of CAIR) has issued yet more demands... islamic values for all children in the country, no drinking alcohol in public, more "modest" clothing (i.e. walking around in a tent, we can't have women wearing clothes that look good because they're basically asking to get raped)... this is what I've been saying for ages. Islam thinks that its rules apply to everyone, not just Muslims, and we bend over so far backwards to accommodate them that our government will gladly sacrifice everything that makes Britain the awesome place it is (i.e. everything Islam isn't) to get the Muslim vote. No alcohol in public i think would probably be good for britain.. seriously, the ammount of drunken people seen on the streets these days :/ but the 'tent' thing is just fucking rediculas.
Starbuzz wrote on Tue, 20 November 2007 09:14 nikki6ixx wrote on Tue, 20 November 2007 00:32 To be honest, I'm more afraid of right-wing, evangelical Christian 'conservatives' who preach armageddon, and Fanatical Jewish Zionists who believe in a 'Greater Israel' ... These muthafukas piss me off MORE than Allah's slaves. These people believe in the Rapture and they are all "end time" fanatics. Like get a life and think outside the litte Bible box retards. My anger against these Christians really shot up especially during Israel's short and humilating war against Hezbollah in the summer of 2006. All those end-time fanatics went online, they went on rallies, and they went to the media saying the "Jesus is coming-war is starting!" bullshit. Hell, even idiot CNN aired these fanatics who were all hyped out about the fact that war was starting and these idiots kept talking about Armageddon and the end-times. These Christian fanatics do more to spread the fire than solve it as it it apparent by their blatant excitement at any Israeli-Arab war related news. These warlusting pigs actually ENJOYED the war rather then worry about any of the consequences. And I don't even want to talk about those warmongering Zionist criminal pigs. Greater Israel my ass haha...in this aspect, a nuclear Iran can teach them a lot of self-control. Your anger is misplaced. While you shouldn't hope for war, beliefs are beliefs. Do I believe the rapture will happen? Sure, but it probably won't happen in my lifetime. Especially since my life probably isn't enough time to waste away a second on the clock since creation. Religion isn't a bad thing, but Extremism is. That goes for atheism too. What these people do is their personal responsibility and generalizing an entire group because of what a small group of people do is wrong.
Jecht wrote on Tue, 20 November 2007 10:23 Starbuzz wrote on Tue, 20 November 2007 09:14 nikki6ixx wrote on Tue, 20 November 2007 00:32 To be honest, I'm more afraid of right-wing, evangelical Christian 'conservatives' who preach armageddon, and Fanatical Jewish Zionists who believe in a 'Greater Israel' ... These muthafukas piss me off MORE than Allah's slaves. These people believe in the Rapture and they are all "end time" fanatics. Like get a life and think outside the litte Bible box retards. My anger against these Christians really shot up especially during Israel's short and humilating war against Hezbollah in the summer of 2006. All those end-time fanatics went online, they went on rallies, and they went to the media saying the "Jesus is coming-war is starting!" bullshit. Hell, even idiot CNN aired these fanatics who were all hyped out about the fact that war was starting and these idiots kept talking about Armageddon and the end-times. These Christian fanatics do more to spread the fire than solve it as it it apparent by their blatant excitement at any Israeli-Arab war related news. These warlusting pigs actually ENJOYED the war rather then worry about any of the consequences. And I don't even want to talk about those warmongering Zionist criminal pigs. Greater Israel my ass haha...in this aspect, a nuclear Iran can teach them a lot of self-control. Your anger is misplaced. While you shouldn't hope for war, beliefs are beliefs. Do I believe the rapture will happen? Sure, but it probably won't happen in my lifetime. Especially since my life probably isn't enough time to waste away a second on the clock since creation. Religion isn't a bad thing, but Extremism is. That goes for atheism too. What these people do is their personal responsibility and generalizing an entire group because of what a small group of people do is wrong. Religion has caused more death, hurt, pain, suffering and wars then anything else in the entire history of man. Still think it's so great?
religion's basically a knife, it depends what you plan on using it for. if you're already an intelligent, tolerant person then religion is probably gonna be good for you, and when you look in the holy scriptures you'll focus on the peaceful stuff. if you're already a stupid, intolerant bigot then when you look in the holy scriptures you'll see what you want to see: war, more intolerance, more bigotry, and you'll use it to excuse the asshole you already are. If you use it to gain inner peace and whatnot, then it's absolutely fine. It has no business in anybody else's life imho, it's personal and should stay personal
All religion is evil. Faith is one thing. Faith doesn't rely on mass organization and mind control. @prasp, You're a fucking idiot. 'nuff said.
I agree with the two posts above this, these two posts, have hit the target right in the mack. Good job.
IronWarrior wrote on Tue, 20 November 2007 11:18 Religion has caused more death, hurt, pain, suffering and wars then anything else in the entire history of man. Still think it's so great? People have caused more. Still think they're so great? Religion is not evil Jake. I know you've been to church before. How often did they call for genocide on non-believers? It's the extremism that's evil, and that can be through several other processes such as political, race, or any other methodology of mass control. Some just choose religion because it can be manipulated easier. Spoony pretty much summed it up in his above post.
Jecht wrote on Wed, 21 November 2007 09:21 IronWarrior wrote on Tue, 20 November 2007 11:18 Religion has caused more death, hurt, pain, suffering and wars then anything else in the entire history of man. Still think it's so great? People have caused more. Still think they're so great? Religion is not evil Jake. I know you've been to church before. How often did they call for genocide on non-believers? It's the extremism that's evil, and that can be through several other processes such as political, race, or any other methodology of mass control. Some just choose religion because it can be manipulated easier. Spoony pretty much summed it up in his above post. My church stays away from any legalistic religion. Instead, it focuses on individual faith and the church helping each other out in finding and following Christ. My pastor doesn't preach that we're the one, true religion. It's implied, but it doesn't make a point to put down other lifestyles. It's far from mind-controlling, unlike say... the Catholic church or Islam.
I apologize then, I misconstrued your previous post.
cheesesoda wrote on Wed, 21 November 2007 10:32 Jecht wrote on Wed, 21 November 2007 09:21 IronWarrior wrote on Tue, 20 November 2007 11:18 Religion has caused more death, hurt, pain, suffering and wars then anything else in the entire history of man. Still think it's so great? People have caused more. Still think they're so great? Religion is not evil Jake. I know you've been to church before. How often did they call for genocide on non-believers? It's the extremism that's evil, and that can be through several other processes such as political, race, or any other methodology of mass control. Some just choose religion because it can be manipulated easier. Spoony pretty much summed it up in his above post. My church stays away from any legalistic religion. Instead, it focuses on individual faith and the church helping each other out in finding and following Christ. My pastor doesn't preach that we're the one, true religion. It's implied, but it doesn't make a point to put down other lifestyles. It's far from mind-controlling, unlike say... the Catholic church or Islam. The catholic church is also far from mind-controlling. Now then, that doesn't preclude people from taking things to extreme. The Catholic church saying it is better than another religion, is no better than say, the American governemnt teaching its children that it is the best country, and that has caused just as much violence as any religion. (World War 2: "fight against a dictatorship because freedom is better!" It's still simply an ideal that is preached to be truth, that causes people to fight for its cause.)
Jecht wrote on Wed, 21 November 2007 08:21 Religion is not evil Jake. I know you've been to church before. How often did they call for genocide on non-believers? if, hypothetically speaking, you were asking about Islam in England, the answer is: just under 50% of the time. Thank god you weren't. btw, religion MIGHT be responsible for more carnage than anything else in history, but oil's catching up pretty damn fast
Actually, the thing responsible for 100% of the carnage in history is the possession of a belief. Unfortunately, religion just happens to fall under that category and is the easiest to blame. Pick any belief a group of people have, and you will find that they have probably fought someone over it. Be it Democracy vs. Communism, English speaking vs. French Speaking, my daughter should not be treated that way, It's my right to be drunk, I should be able to speed, or white vs. black. It's all about beliefs.
Man these threads should just die. "OMG MOZLAMS ARE EXTREMISTS LETS KILL THEM ALL LOL".
nikki6ixx wrote on Tue, 20 November 2007 00:32 To be honest, I'm more afraid of right-wing, evangelical Christian 'conservatives' who preach armageddon, and Fanatical Jewish Zionists who believe in a 'Greater Israel' ... I think the scariest thing about that is that the most powerful country in the world is run by these people.
For God's sake people, you act as if Christians are running through the night waiting to prey and feed on your children. Honestly, if you think Christians are your biggest fear then you need a mental adjustment. The ignorance is stunning...It really, really, is.
christians are always up in everyones biznatch preaching their magic
Quote: You're a fucking idiot. 'nuff said. I'm a idiot? Just because I'm right? Is that all you can come up with?
Update: http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/11/24/saudi.rape/index.html
Cheesesoda wrote You're a fucking idiot. 'nuff said. aimed at Rocko now.
prasp wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 22:58 If you think that's bad US drug policies are even worse. Quote: Saudi's run by a bunch of sleazy medieval gangsters, and what's worse is we (the UK) do everything we can to keep them happy. The US shouldn't be accusing any sovereign state of violating human rights when it supports oppressive regimes just for their natural resources. So you're saying that two wrongs make a right then?
HAHAHAHAHA! Something that will make the cowardly mullahs hate the West more: http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/12/17/saudi.rape/index.html We won.
Good to hear she was pardoned. The attackers deserve worse though.
Religion is fake, it's made up to control the masses. if you get a spare 2 hours or so, watch Zeitgeist.
Dreganius wrote on Mon, 17 December 2007 21:15 Religion is fake, it's made up to control the masses. if you get a spare 2 hours or so, watch Zeitgeist. I don't get how the "Noah's Ark," "Creation of Earth" and many other stories have to do with controlling people... If I were to become a athiest, I'd believe it were to explain things, much like greek mythology. Yea, controlling the masses could be a part of it, but not entirely.
Dreganius wrote on Mon, 17 December 2007 22:15 Religion is fake, it's made up to control the masses. if you get a spare 2 hours or so, watch Zeitgeist. Thanks for that link! I am downloading it. I will post back here after I watch it.
Starbuzz wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 23:20 Homey wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 22:17 Jecht wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 19:41 wait...how is this the woman's fault again? Men gang-rape woman, and she gets the punishment? What the hell kind of logic is that? I'd be all for them getting 200 lashes and then put in front of a firing squad, but why is this blame on the woman? She was just minding her own business. The Mid-East is fucking ridiculous. It isn't her fault, what a fucked up government. It's the fucking religion that is behind this. If you look at the problems in the Middle East, you can see it's much more than oppressive regimes. Failure to see the root of the problem is why these problems remain unsolved and more problems come up. If Jerusalem and Israel were just a real-estate issue, then it would have been solved long time ago. But no! We have idiots who think God gave it to them and also it's holy cuz pimpster MuhaMAD went up to paradise from that rock. FUCKING BULLSHIT. Burn these muthafukas. If we say something bad about Islam, these Muslim activists bastards would be on our asses trying to push their fucking "Islam is a peaceful religion" bullshit. What they don't get is that the Koran was a highly-modified version of the Torah/Bible (damned Jewish poetry) that was very cleverely written by that pimpster MuhaMAD to control the masses. What's a better way to get men to fight on your side other then writing up fucking laws that give them total control? Saudi Arabia was a ragtag bunch of kingdoms which MuhaMAD managed to unite by mind-controlling the men with his writings. Now the descendants of thse men terrorise the population (especially women). I am convinced that if these Arabs don't change and they keep trying to force their filth on others, I can see them completely wiped out OR reduced to shit by the year 2100. Only Allah knows how many of his slaves saw this post and were inspired to "slaughter" the poster lamb-style. You might want to check on your religion knowledge before posting that. It is not the religion Islam that is violent - it is how these people has chosen to interpretate it. As far as I know the Bible are actually more violent than the Koran, so to say it is the religion that has caused this is stupid. It is men who wants power, who has done this, not the religion.
gj the gang-rape victim was pardoned for her crime. Apparently she apologised for being gang-raped and has promised not to be gang-raped again.
DKDexter999 wrote on Tue, 18 December 2007 07:14 Starbuzz wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 23:20 Homey wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 22:17 Jecht wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 19:41 wait...how is this the woman's fault again? Men gang-rape woman, and she gets the punishment? What the hell kind of logic is that? I'd be all for them getting 200 lashes and then put in front of a firing squad, but why is this blame on the woman? She was just minding her own business. The Mid-East is fucking ridiculous. It isn't her fault, what a fucked up government. It's the fucking religion that is behind this. If you look at the problems in the Middle East, you can see it's much more than oppressive regimes. Failure to see the root of the problem is why these problems remain unsolved and more problems come up. If Jerusalem and Israel were just a real-estate issue, then it would have been solved long time ago. But no! We have idiots who think God gave it to them and also it's holy cuz pimpster MuhaMAD went up to paradise from that rock. FUCKING BULLSHIT. Burn these muthafukas. If we say something bad about Islam, these Muslim activists bastards would be on our asses trying to push their fucking "Islam is a peaceful religion" bullshit. What they don't get is that the Koran was a highly-modified version of the Torah/Bible (damned Jewish poetry) that was very cleverely written by that pimpster MuhaMAD to control the masses. What's a better way to get men to fight on your side other then writing up fucking laws that give them total control? Saudi Arabia was a ragtag bunch of kingdoms which MuhaMAD managed to unite by mind-controlling the men with his writings. Now the descendants of thse men terrorise the population (especially women). I am convinced that if these Arabs don't change and they keep trying to force their filth on others, I can see them completely wiped out OR reduced to shit by the year 2100. Only Allah knows how many of his slaves saw this post and were inspired to "slaughter" the poster lamb-style. You might want to check on your religion knowledge before posting that. It is not the religion Islam that is violent - it is how these people has chosen to interpretate it. As far as I know the Bible are actually more violent than the Koran, so to say it is the religion that has caused this is stupid. It is men who wants power, who has done this, not the religion. Religion provides a platform that can be interpreted wrongly. You think people can interprete "religion" and cause death and destruction if it did not exist in the first place? If it was not religon, then it would be something else but religion IS a major source of the divisivness in this world. Men who want power is certainly the driving force behind all this. Sooner or later, people must realize the uselessness of their relgious beliefs. This mind-controlled and crippled religious state that most people live in is the reason a few men and the governments of the world have taken advantage of us and are using us as pawns in their corrupt game. Dreganius wrote on Mon, 17 December 2007 21:15 Religion is fake, it's made up to control the masses. if you get a spare 2 hours or so, watch Zeitgeist. I watched it. Makes perfect sense and goes along with what I have been thinking all along. It was the human evolution of thought over the centuries that resulted in these things we struggle with today. Jesus is just one of those religious figures that will be replaced by new ones as time goes on. Once upon a time it was Zeus and the Greek gods, now it is Allah, the Judeo-Christian God and Jesus, and others. And it will be different in the future.
DKDexter999 wrote on Tue, 18 December 2007 06:14 Starbuzz wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 23:20 Homey wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 22:17 Jecht wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 19:41 wait...how is this the woman's fault again? Men gang-rape woman, and she gets the punishment? What the hell kind of logic is that? I'd be all for them getting 200 lashes and then put in front of a firing squad, but why is this blame on the woman? She was just minding her own business. The Mid-East is fucking ridiculous. It isn't her fault, what a fucked up government. It's the fucking religion that is behind this. If you look at the problems in the Middle East, you can see it's much more than oppressive regimes. Failure to see the root of the problem is why these problems remain unsolved and more problems come up. If Jerusalem and Israel were just a real-estate issue, then it would have been solved long time ago. But no! We have idiots who think God gave it to them and also it's holy cuz pimpster MuhaMAD went up to paradise from that rock. FUCKING BULLSHIT. Burn these muthafukas. If we say something bad about Islam, these Muslim activists bastards would be on our asses trying to push their fucking "Islam is a peaceful religion" bullshit. What they don't get is that the Koran was a highly-modified version of the Torah/Bible (damned Jewish poetry) that was very cleverely written by that pimpster MuhaMAD to control the masses. What's a better way to get men to fight on your side other then writing up fucking laws that give them total control? Saudi Arabia was a ragtag bunch of kingdoms which MuhaMAD managed to unite by mind-controlling the men with his writings. Now the descendants of thse men terrorise the population (especially women). I am convinced that if these Arabs don't change and they keep trying to force their filth on others, I can see them completely wiped out OR reduced to shit by the year 2100. Only Allah knows how many of his slaves saw this post and were inspired to "slaughter" the poster lamb-style. You might want to check on your religion knowledge before posting that. It is not the religion Islam that is violent - it is how these people has chosen to interpretate it. As far as I know the Bible are actually more violent than the Koran, so to say it is the religion that has caused this is stupid. It is men who wants power, who has done this, not the religion. Might wanna research islam more. As it's religion that is a major part in peoples life, it was gives us our morals and gives us something to believe in, it's not the man, but the religion, this is why we have religion in the first place. School, give us the skills on how to get on in life, religion tells us what to do. And the fact, that muzzies are bombing half the world while the other religions are trying their best to stop them. Oh you can say, the other religions did the same thing, which is half true, but they not doing it now are they. http://www.allahislam.com http://www.prophetofdoom.net http://www.faithfreedom.org/
IronWarrior wrote on Tue, 18 December 2007 14:57 DKDexter999 wrote on Tue, 18 December 2007 06:14 Starbuzz wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 23:20 Homey wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 22:17 Jecht wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 19:41 wait...how is this the woman's fault again? Men gang-rape woman, and she gets the punishment? What the hell kind of logic is that? I'd be all for them getting 200 lashes and then put in front of a firing squad, but why is this blame on the woman? She was just minding her own business. The Mid-East is fucking ridiculous. It isn't her fault, what a fucked up government. It's the fucking religion that is behind this. If you look at the problems in the Middle East, you can see it's much more than oppressive regimes. Failure to see the root of the problem is why these problems remain unsolved and more problems come up. If Jerusalem and Israel were just a real-estate issue, then it would have been solved long time ago. But no! We have idiots who think God gave it to them and also it's holy cuz pimpster MuhaMAD went up to paradise from that rock. FUCKING BULLSHIT. Burn these muthafukas. If we say something bad about Islam, these Muslim activists bastards would be on our asses trying to push their fucking "Islam is a peaceful religion" bullshit. What they don't get is that the Koran was a highly-modified version of the Torah/Bible (damned Jewish poetry) that was very cleverely written by that pimpster MuhaMAD to control the masses. What's a better way to get men to fight on your side other then writing up fucking laws that give them total control? Saudi Arabia was a ragtag bunch of kingdoms which MuhaMAD managed to unite by mind-controlling the men with his writings. Now the descendants of thse men terrorise the population (especially women). I am convinced that if these Arabs don't change and they keep trying to force their filth on others, I can see them completely wiped out OR reduced to shit by the year 2100. Only Allah knows how many of his slaves saw this post and were inspired to "slaughter" the poster lamb-style. You might want to check on your religion knowledge before posting that. It is not the religion Islam that is violent - it is how these people has chosen to interpretate it. As far as I know the Bible are actually more violent than the Koran, so to say it is the religion that has caused this is stupid. It is men who wants power, who has done this, not the religion. Might wanna research islam more. As it's religion that is a major part in peoples life, it was gives us our morals and gives us something to believe in, it's not the man, but the religion, this is why we have religion in the first place. School, give us the skills on how to get on in life, religion tells us what to do. And the fact, that muzzies are bombing half the world while the other religions are trying their best to stop them. Oh you can say, the other religions did the same thing, which is half true, but they not doing it now are they. http://www.allahislam.com http://www.prophetofdoom.net http://www.faithfreedom.org/ Well other religions does it as well: Whenever some christian goes to war, he/she "goes with God" - God has never had any intention to start a war, but "God will help us"... nope... same thing with muslims, it is some people, who have chosen to interpretate the Koran as they did, who are the bad guys, not EVERY muslim that exist... btw; I don't believe in any thing, I believe in science...
DKDexter999 wrote on Tue, 18 December 2007 08:13 IronWarrior wrote on Tue, 18 December 2007 14:57 DKDexter999 wrote on Tue, 18 December 2007 06:14 Starbuzz wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 23:20 Homey wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 22:17 Jecht wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 19:41 wait...how is this the woman's fault again? Men gang-rape woman, and she gets the punishment? What the hell kind of logic is that? I'd be all for them getting 200 lashes and then put in front of a firing squad, but why is this blame on the woman? She was just minding her own business. The Mid-East is fucking ridiculous. It isn't her fault, what a fucked up government. It's the fucking religion that is behind this. If you look at the problems in the Middle East, you can see it's much more than oppressive regimes. Failure to see the root of the problem is why these problems remain unsolved and more problems come up. If Jerusalem and Israel were just a real-estate issue, then it would have been solved long time ago. But no! We have idiots who think God gave it to them and also it's holy cuz pimpster MuhaMAD went up to paradise from that rock. FUCKING BULLSHIT. Burn these muthafukas. If we say something bad about Islam, these Muslim activists bastards would be on our asses trying to push their fucking "Islam is a peaceful religion" bullshit. What they don't get is that the Koran was a highly-modified version of the Torah/Bible (damned Jewish poetry) that was very cleverely written by that pimpster MuhaMAD to control the masses. What's a better way to get men to fight on your side other then writing up fucking laws that give them total control? Saudi Arabia was a ragtag bunch of kingdoms which MuhaMAD managed to unite by mind-controlling the men with his writings. Now the descendants of thse men terrorise the population (especially women). I am convinced that if these Arabs don't change and they keep trying to force their filth on others, I can see them completely wiped out OR reduced to shit by the year 2100. Only Allah knows how many of his slaves saw this post and were inspired to "slaughter" the poster lamb-style. You might want to check on your religion knowledge before posting that. It is not the religion Islam that is violent - it is how these people has chosen to interpretate it. As far as I know the Bible are actually more violent than the Koran, so to say it is the religion that has caused this is stupid. It is men who wants power, who has done this, not the religion. Might wanna research islam more. As it's religion that is a major part in peoples life, it was gives us our morals and gives us something to believe in, it's not the man, but the religion, this is why we have religion in the first place. School, give us the skills on how to get on in life, religion tells us what to do. And the fact, that muzzies are bombing half the world while the other religions are trying their best to stop them. Oh you can say, the other religions did the same thing, which is half true, but they not doing it now are they. http://www.allahislam.com http://www.prophetofdoom.net http://www.faithfreedom.org/ Well other religions does it as well: Whenever some christian goes to war, he/she "goes with God" - God has never had any intention to start a war, but "God will help us"... nope... same thing with muslims, it is some people, who have chosen to interpretate the Koran as they did, who are the bad guys, not EVERY muslim that exist... btw; I don't believe in any thing, I believe in science... All the more reason to ban this concept of "God" and take our destinies into our own hands realizing our limitations instead of relying on a imaginery supernatural being to further our unrealistic ambitions (which results in war, violence, and strife). How's that scan?
It's fairly fucked alright. There a bit extreme in what they do, I'm not talking completly about the Saudi's, but Muslims in total. The majority of them are ok, heh, I even know some, but the stupid laws some of them make, like that woman who got arrested and deported in Sudan for calling a teddy bear "Muhammad", I mean, WTF?