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UK > US
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description: 'Nuff said.
creator: Zion
date: 2007-11-17T19:55:23-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: *cough* Marshall Plan *cough* *cough* *cough* *cough* *cough* *cough* 'Give us the tools, and we will finish the job' *cough* *cough* *cough* *cough* *cough* Palestine Mandate *cough* *cough* *cough* *cough* The creation of illegitimate regimes in the Middle East, such as Iraq, and Jordan created under an arcane and self-serving "mandate policy" which is responsible for much of the problems that plague the Middle East today. *cough* *cough* *cough* *cough* Anglo-Iranian Oil Company *cough* England isn't home to California, or Hawaii either.
creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2007-11-17T20:17:06-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: We got games that say 16+ in your country that are for 13+ here. Cause we are that much better.
creator: R315r4z0r
date: 2007-11-17T20:23:00-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Thank fuck for that I was tired of controversial topics.
creator: Memphis
date: 2007-11-17T20:43:43-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: "WOULD U LIEK A SP0T OF TEA?"
creator: Matix101
date: 2007-11-17T20:47:20-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: nikki6ixx wrote on Sat, 17 November 2007 14:17 *cough* Marshall Plan *cough* *cough* *cough* *cough* *cough* *cough* 'Give us the tools, and we will finish the job' *cough* *cough* *cough* *cough* *cough* Palestine Mandate *cough* *cough* *cough* *cough* The creation of illegitimate regimes in the Middle East, such as Iraq, and Jordan created under an arcane and self-serving "mandate policy" which is responsible for much of the problems that plague the Middle East today. *cough* *cough* *cough* *cough* Anglo-Iranian Oil Company *cough* England isn't home to California, or Hawaii either.
creator: sadukar09
date: 2007-11-17T20:56:44-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: OMG American Revolutionary War v2.0!
creator: R315r4z0r
date: 2007-11-17T21:05:36-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: I do say, if I get this jolly good podcast converted, it would be spiffing, and I may even go for a spot of buggery to celebrate, followed by some crumpets and tea! Tally Ho!
creator: [NE]Fobby[GEN]
date: 2007-11-17T21:56:26-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Matix101 wrote on Sat, 17 November 2007 14:47 "WOULD U LIEK A SP0T OF TEA?" HI WOULD U LIKE TO FLOOD SOME REN SERVERS? you sad, lonely little geek.
creator: Spoony
date: 2007-11-17T22:15:36-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Britain sucks. At least the US has nice weather.
creator: Dave Mason
date: 2007-11-17T23:28:55-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: California pwns when it comes to weather.
creator: z310
date: 2007-11-17T23:35:29-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Spoony wrote on Sat, 17 November 2007 16:15 Matix101 wrote on Sat, 17 November 2007 14:47 "WOULD U LIEK A SP0T OF TEA?" HI WOULD U LIKE TO FLOOD SOME REN SERVERS? you sad, lonely little geek. Lol, and mirogoven or w/e, nobody cares about your opinion
creator: trooprm02
date: 2007-11-18T00:01:52-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: trooprm02 wrote on Sat, 17 November 2007 18:01 Spoony wrote on Sat, 17 November 2007 16:15 Matix101 wrote on Sat, 17 November 2007 14:47 "WOULD U LIEK A SP0T OF TEA?" HI WOULD U LIKE TO FLOOD SOME REN SERVERS? you sad, lonely little geek. Lol, and trooprm02 or w/e, nobody cares about my opinion Fixed.
creator: sadukar09
date: 2007-11-18T00:02:37-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: What do you mean fixed? That doesn't make any sense...
creator: R315r4z0r
date: 2007-11-18T00:08:27-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: he's from china
creator: trooprm02
date: 2007-11-18T00:10:00-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Spoony wrote on Sat, 17 November 2007 16:15 Matix101 wrote on Sat, 17 November 2007 14:47 "WOULD U LIEK A SP0T OF TEA?" HI WOULD U LIKE TO FLOOD SOME REN SERVERS? you sad, lonely little geek. SUREI WOOULD LIEKT O FL00D SERVERS AHAHAPALXP;
creator: Matix101
date: 2007-11-18T00:37:50-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: trooprm02 wrote on Sat, 17 November 2007 18:10 he's from china And?
creator: sadukar09
date: 2007-11-18T02:24:01-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: z310 wrote on Sat, 17 November 2007 17:35 California pwns when it comes to weather. The USA WOULD be equal to the UK if California broke off of the mainland, floated off into the ocean and then created their own country. No offense, but most of you guys are wacko.
creator: Sn1per74*
date: 2007-11-18T03:26:21-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Quote: *cough* *cough* The creation of illegitimate regimes in the Middle East, such as Iraq, and Jordan created under an arcane and self-serving "mandate policy" which is responsible for much of the problems that plague the Middle East today. *cough* *cough* *cough* And Israel.
creator: prasp
date: 2007-11-18T04:03:47-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: we own australia gg,LOL
creator: Ryu
date: 2007-11-18T04:08:17-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Everyone hates the US, not really much room to debate
creator: Blazer
date: 2007-11-18T04:50:29-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: WEST COAST 4 LIFE
creator: Rocko
date: 2007-11-18T05:18:17-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: us and uk are on the same side, we kicked your asses 200 years ago, dont make us do it again.
creator: kikiller
date: 2007-11-18T05:28:35-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Sn1per74* wrote on Sat, 17 November 2007 21:26 z310 wrote on Sat, 17 November 2007 17:35 California pwns when it comes to weather. The USA WOULD be equal to the UK if California broke off of the mainland, floated off into the ocean and then created their own country. No offense, but most of you guys are wacko. Rocko wrote on Sat, 17 November 2007 23:18 WEST COAST 4 LIFE Point proven.
creator: Sn1per74*
date: 2007-11-18T05:57:03-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Yes, that totally proves how Californians are "wacko".
creator: Tunaman
date: 2007-11-18T09:16:32-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: [NE Fobby[GEN] wrote on Sat, 17 November 2007 15:56]I do say, if I get this jolly good podcast converted, it would be spiffing, and I may even go for a spot of buggery to celebrate, followed by some crumpets and tea! Tally Ho! Nobody talks like that in england.
creator: Nightma12
date: 2007-11-18T09:17:40-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Nightma12 wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 03:17 [NE Fobby[GEN] wrote on Sat, 17 November 2007 15:56]I do say, if I get this jolly good podcast converted, it would be spiffing, and I may even go for a spot of buggery to celebrate, followed by some crumpets and tea! Tally Ho! Nobody talks like that in england. Yeah, You'd get called a retard, and then probably beaten up for being a smart ass.
creator: Ryu
date: 2007-11-18T10:10:41-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Indeed. Many people think us brits are stupid... That's not true, just the majority of teens here are immature and act stupid to 'be cool' infront of their friends. It's called peer pressure, and fear of acceptance. Many Americans are just plain stupid. And many of these are actually adults. The majority of americans don't even know where the country they are at war with, is. Some have never even heard of England. And some don't even know about other parts of America. I rest my case.
creator: Zion
date: 2007-11-18T12:22:46-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtXCs0Wqs9Q&feature=related I honestly could answer most of those.
creator: jnz
date: 2007-11-18T14:13:57-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: kikiller wrote on Sat, 17 November 2007 23:28 us and uk are on the same side, we kicked your asses 200 years ago, dont make us do it again. Read a history book. You were getting raped and had to beg the French to bail you out. How humiliating.
creator: Spoony
date: 2007-11-18T14:26:27-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: ^ My point EXACTLY! "Which state does Kentucky Fried Chicken originate?" ".... I have no idea...." "Where is the Berlin Wall?" "......." Can you see what i mean now?
creator: Zion
date: 2007-11-18T14:31:49-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: The Merovingian wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 09:31 ^ My point EXACTLY! "Which state does Kentucky Fried Chicken originate?" ".... I have no idea...." "Where is the Berlin Wall?" "......." Can you see what i mean now? To be fair you can find people with that much of a lack of knowledge anywhere if you look hard enough. The only thing I will say is that I feel the UK is a lot more measured with what it says concerning happenings around the globe. In comparison the USA demands this or that to happen effectively taking up the role of world bully. You can mock a lot of American people for knowing nothing about the outside world but perhaps you would be the same if you lived in a country as large as it is. It would be nice for America to really concentrate on its economy and extreme debt instead of putting an immeasurable amount of resources in the war on terror.
creator: Memphis
date: 2007-11-18T15:05:27-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: It's easy to call another nation's population ignorant. It's also funny that in doing so, you become ignorant by pointing fingers at a situation you know nothing about. At least, as Americans, we don't give much thought to your leaders. However, that never seems to be the case for other nations. Our leaders are all looked down upon and judged by outsiders. Granted, some of this comes from the fact that America seems to want to be the world's police. However, we could look intently into your politics and give you our opinions on your government, but we don't. As far as the "world police" thing goes... I don't necessarily agree with it, but there's always going to be one nation that leads in the world's politics. Honestly, would you rather that be China or Russia at this point? No other nation really has the power to "run" the world. Again, not that I view this as correct, but there's not much else you can do about it. Obviously, the UN is worthless. Another thing, many many many nations call out to the US for help, whether it be to use military force to smother some resistance or financial aid, America is asked to be the world's savior. I find this funny that we're supposed to both be the savior, but we're supposed to back off when it comes to foreign affairs? Get real. If we're spending money and resources to help other countries, we're going to be in the foreign affairs of those countries. We're going to protect our investments. If you don't want us hoarding the power in world politics, maybe your whiny countries should step up. If you truly want the US to just be another country in the world's politics instead of THE country, maybe you should stop singling us out. You back us into a corner, we're going to flex our muscles. Do you expect us to just bow to your demands when you have no presence in the world political arena? Finally, there's no point in trying to suggest that one nation's better than the other. We all have our pros and cons. No need to be arrogant an…
creator: cheesesoda
date: 2007-11-18T15:38:06-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Blazer wrote on Sat, 17 November 2007 22:50 Everyone hates the US, not really much room to debate yes, it does seem to be 1 of the biggest bandwagons ever concienved, but it does also seem that your aboard it aswell Me? Why hate em? We can go down there and buy everything so cheap it makes our eyes bleed. AND, no illegals get past their nothern border (or very few), so, go USA!
creator: trooprm02
date: 2007-11-18T15:49:56-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Although this isn't too relevant here I do actually respect Russia for standing up to the US on certain matters. I can to some degree see Russia becoming a new super power within Europe. Russia now has the money it build itself up once again and I don't think that's any bad thing. You will get people saying there will be a 'cold war 2' but I don't believe a word of it to be honest. Russia's resources with a bit of luck will one day be used for positive means. I am by no means saying Russia are perfect but I think they have cleaned their image up quite a bit bar a few fuck ups (everyone is human...).
creator: Memphis
date: 2007-11-18T16:23:26-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Jake....honey I love you, but most the world looks down on your leaders because your leaders have never let the world forget they exist. The USA claims to be the worlds ONLY superpower. If that is in fact the case then of course every other country will critise you/your leadership it's what happens when people get elevated on to pedestals, just don't look down you'll be ok. I've lived in the USA and I currently live in the UK and I can firmly say BOTH GOVERNMENTS SUCK! NEXT STOP CANADA. As for UK > US People from the US think that English people are all TALLY HOE and Mary Poppins with bad teeth. OMG U CAN'T SPELL WHY DO YOU PUT U IN NEIGHBOR AND LABOR People from the UK think Americans are all inbred rednecks with bad education and worse knowledge of life.OMG YOU CANT SPELL WHY DONT YOU PUT U IN NEIGHBOUR AND LABOUR They are called stereotypes.....give each other some credit. The world is more diverse than that! I hate America coz I had a really poor experience there and it just brings back bad memories and feelings so I cut off my nose to spite my face and vowed never to return. But I love most of it's people......I have my reasons. I love England because it's my home country, place of birth and we have healthcare but I hate alot of it's people.....see my point?
creator: Kytten9
date: 2007-11-18T16:55:38-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: [NE Fobby[GEN] wrote on Sat, 17 November 2007 16:56]I do say, if I get this jolly good podcast converted, it would be spiffing, and I may even go for a spot of buggery to celebrate, followed by some crumpets and tea! Tally Ho! lol wtf? You have watched way to much tv
creator: Hex
date: 2007-11-18T16:59:37-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Memphis wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 10:23 Although this isn't too relevant here I do actually respect Russia for standing up to the US on certain matters. I can to some degree see Russia becoming a new super power within Europe. Russia now has the money it build itself up once again and I don't think that's any bad thing. You will get people saying there will be a 'cold war 2' but I don't believe a word of it to be honest. Russia's resources with a bit of luck will one day be used for positive means. I am by no means saying Russia are perfect but I think they have cleaned their image up quite a bit bar a few fuck ups (everyone is human...). So when Russia blackmails half of Europe with their natural gas resources....will you still respect them? Quote: kikiller wrote on Sat, 17 November 2007 23:28 us and uk are on the same side, we kicked your asses 200 years ago, dont make us do it again. Read a history book. You were getting raped and had to beg the French to bail you out. How humiliating. While I don't agree with kikiller's version of history...your reply is ironic...seeing how your country had us bailing you out of several of your wars.
creator: GoArmy44
date: 2007-11-18T17:49:10-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: *Cough* World War 1 *Cough* *Cough* World War 2 *Cough*
creator: sadukar09
date: 2007-11-18T18:29:16-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Hex wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 11:59 [NE Fobby[GEN] wrote on Sat, 17 November 2007 16:56]I do say, if I get this jolly good podcast converted, it would be spiffing, and I may even go for a spot of buggery to celebrate, followed by some crumpets and tea! Tally Ho! lol wtf? You have watched way to much tv Yes this was to mock the people who make fun of Brits, it's quite obvious that almost no one in the world talks like that. Except for one person in my Renegade clan... but I won't get into that.
creator: [NE]Fobby[GEN]
date: 2007-11-18T18:30:36-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: sadukar09 wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 13:29 *Cough* World War 1 *Cough* *Cough* World War 2 *Cough* Actually, if you knew your history and watched Pearl Harbor you would see that Ben Affleck single handedly won The Battle of Britain and pretty much most of World War 2.
creator: Memphis
date: 2007-11-18T18:37:31-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: GoArmy44 wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 11:49 While I don't agree with kikiller's version of history...your reply is ironic...seeing how your country had us bailing you out of several of your wars. "Your" war? You didn't do much until you were attacked too, so how was it "our" war?
creator: Spoony
date: 2007-11-18T18:39:08-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Don't forget the amount of Spitfires stolen by Americans that came over here for some war action to get back home post Pearl Harbor. Nice free training and plane they got too.
creator: Memphis
date: 2007-11-18T18:57:45-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: razorblade001 wrote on Sat, 17 November 2007 20:23 We got games that say 16+ in your country that are for 13+ here. Cause we are that much better. yes, people do shelter kids too much from violent games here. but it does work, we dont get kids shooting up there school then blowing there own brains out. oh and we can legally drink at 18! ha ha ha ha, which would you choose? z310 wrote on Sat, 17 November 2007 23:35 California pwns when it comes to weather. if you like wild fires, personally i like the cold wet weather. kikiller wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 05:28 us and uk are on the same side, we kicked your asses 200 years ago, dont make us do it again. random trivia i cant remember the exact timeline, but i think it was about a month after independance day befor UK new about it. personally i cant blame americans wanting indepandance, hell if you were being taxed by a government so far away that didnt really give you anything wouldnt you? and as for the american leaders at the time it was a very smart thing, they gained lots of power and money. at this point i think i should say i like america, i think its brilliant, i go there for my holidays and am goin to florida next summer. i jus think its a bit odd that you can but a gun befor you can drink. also the current government seems to be a bit of a warmonger, but then our politicans dont dare oppose yours.... this is just depressing. anyone else think we need to get rid of all politicians and start over? my personal problem with USA is last time i was there with family (florida) we walked down street to wallmart i was inside and my dad (50) was outside lookin at a shop next to it. without warning a cop slams the but of a shotgun into his back and handcufs him because walking in dark is "suspicious behaviour" and drove him what was a 5 min walk back to our house! at least in uk you dont get arrested for walking! well to draw this rant to a conclusion: to live in UK>USA holiday USA>UK (especially at moment £1=$2)
creator: firazero
date: 2007-11-18T18:57:45-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: sadukar09 wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 18:29 *Cough* World War 1 *Cough* *Cough* World War 2 *Cough* *cough* THAT WAS A FUCKING WORLD WAR MORONS *cough* The USA did not win either world war The UK did not win either world war The ALLIES won both wars, and they constituted more than just the USA or just the UK. We were all involved in those conflicts for good or for worse, it's damn right disrespectful to trivialize that into a bullshit argument about whether the UK > USA because personally I say New Zealand wins!
creator: Kytten9
date: 2007-11-18T19:37:42-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Spoony wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 12:39 GoArmy44 wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 11:49 While I don't agree with kikiller's version of history...your reply is ironic...seeing how your country had us bailing you out of several of your wars. "Your" war? You didn't do much until you were attacked too, so how was it "our" war? We didn't do much? We were your number one supplier of war material(lend lease)...you know...the stuff that allowed you to fight Hitler(this is not even mentioning the First World War) and kept him from squashing you like every other European country (principally naval resources). It was "your" war because you let it brew right in your own back yard....England and France pressed the Versailles Treaty because of hatred and revenge...and then appeased the madmen that resulted from it when they started on their warpath.
creator: GoArmy44
date: 2007-11-18T19:52:16-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: GoArmy44 wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 19:52 Spoony wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 12:39 GoArmy44 wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 11:49 While I don't agree with kikiller's version of history...your reply is ironic...seeing how your country had us bailing you out of several of your wars. "Your" war? You didn't do much until you were attacked too, so how was it "our" war? We didn't do much? We were your number one supplier of war material(lend lease)...you know...the stuff that allowed you to fight Hitler(this is not even mentioning the First World War) and kept him from squashing you like every other European country (principally naval resources). It was "your" war because you let it brew right in your own back yard....England and France pressed the Versailles Treaty because of hatred and revenge...and then appeased the madmen that resulted from it when they started on their warpath. You got involved in OUR war because the Jap's bombed YOUR harbour.....correct me if I'm wrong but why the fuck were you getting involved in OUR war because you should have just started YOUR own war with the Japs in that case.....oh wait, twas a WORLD war, hmph. I was under the impression that the USA and the UK were supposed to be allies....besides we developed the MRLS without YOUR help YOUR government isn't perfect....have a look at the American War in Vietnam......
creator: Kytten9
date: 2007-11-18T20:00:03-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: GoArmy44 wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 13:52 We didn't do much? We were your number one supplier of war material(lend lease)...you know...the stuff that allowed you to fight Hitler(this is not even mentioning the First World War) and kept him from squashing you like every other European country (principally naval resources). It was "your" war because you let it brew right in your own back yard....England and France pressed the Versailles Treaty because of hatred and revenge...and then appeased the madmen that resulted from it when they started on their warpath. Uh, no. As soon as the "warpath" started (the invasion of Poland), we declared war pretty much immediately (on the same day, I think?). Sticking up for our friends and allies, see? Whereas the US hung around on the sidelines for a good two years. Even after Pearl Harbour was bombed, you still didn't declare war on Germany. They declared war on you. America took so god damn long to get into World War 2 for political reasons, end of. Neither of the Presidential candidates dared it. We didn't care about that, our friends and allies were attacked so we jumped into the fray. America can't claim that.
creator: Spoony
date: 2007-11-18T20:16:16-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: This topic is so fucked up.
creator: Herr Surth
date: 2007-11-18T20:52:34-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Spoony wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 08:26 kikiller wrote on Sat, 17 November 2007 23:28 us and uk are on the same side, we kicked your asses 200 years ago, dont make us do it again. Read a history book. You were getting raped and had to beg the French to bail you out. How humiliating. At least we didn't lose to the French. How humiliating. And in a testament to the British/Western European diplomacy that took immediate action in fighting Hitler:
creator: PlastoJoe
date: 2007-11-18T20:56:34-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Spoony wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 14:16 GoArmy44 wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 13:52 We didn't do much? We were your number one supplier of war material(lend lease)...you know...the stuff that allowed you to fight Hitler(this is not even mentioning the First World War) and kept him from squashing you like every other European country (principally naval resources). It was "your" war because you let it brew right in your own back yard....England and France pressed the Versailles Treaty because of hatred and revenge...and then appeased the madmen that resulted from it when they started on their warpath. Uh, no. As soon as the "warpath" started (the invasion of Poland), we declared war pretty much immediately (on the same day, I think?). Sticking up for our friends and allies, see? Whereas the US hung around on the sidelines for a good two years. Even after Pearl Harbour was bombed, you still didn't declare war on Germany. They declared war on you. America took so god damn long to get into World War 2 for political reasons, end of. Neither of the Presidential candidates dared it. We didn't care about that, our friends and allies were attacked so we jumped into the fray. America can't claim that. I wouldn't say the warpath started with Poland...what about the Rhineland, Austria, and Czechoslovakia? Of course we didn't declare war on Germany...they hadn't provoked us(though we did have skirmishes on the North Atlantic...which strangely enough was because of the material we were shipping to your country). Frankly I don't blame the US for taking so long to jump into the conflict with our friends and allies, we "jumped" into another conflict 20 years earlier...and all we got was the flu, a thank you card, and another war. Quote: .besides we developed the MRLS without YOUR help What? From what I understand it was developed jointly with several nations. Quote: YOUR government isn't perfect....have a look at the American War in Vietnam...... You're right, our government is…
creator: GoArmy44
date: 2007-11-18T20:59:42-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Spoony wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 14:16 Uh, no. As soon as the "warpath" started (the invasion of Poland), we declared war pretty much immediately (on the same day, I think?). Sticking up for our friends and allies, see? Whereas the US hung around on the sidelines for a good two years. Even after Pearl Harbour was bombed, you still didn't declare war on Germany. They declared war on you. Just a quick quip... yes, Britain and France declared war on Germany after Poland's invasion, but little was done. They don't call that period the 'Phony War' for no reason. It was generally when Atlantic trade was interrupted by the Germans, that the party got started. Remember too, that Germany's belligerence was often secretly welcomed by America, and England. A powerful Germany, governed by a fierce anti-communist, meant that the country would become a powerful economic power, and trading partner. And another thing... America declared war on the Axis, because Germany was trying to coerce Mexico to invade the United States, in order to distract America from affairs in Europe. Hitler knew that if America were to enter the war, it would turn the tide. It wasn't just Pearl Harbour that brought the Americans in.
creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2007-11-18T21:02:06-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Quote: And another thing... America declared war on the Axis, because Germany was trying to coerce Mexico to invade the United States, in order to distract America from affairs in Europe. Hitler knew that if America were to enter the war, it would turn the tide. It wasn't just Pearl Harbour that brought the Americans in. Are you thinking of the Zimmerman Note?
creator: GoArmy44
date: 2007-11-18T21:13:02-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: PlastoJoe wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 14:56 At least we didn't lose to the French. How humiliating. I think you completely missed the point. My point wasn't slating America for that, it was a jibe to the multitude of retarded, arrogant Americans who say things like "you'd be speaking German if it wasn't for us" every time they're losing an argument with a European. It makes me think America is the one country that hasn't gotten over World War 2, sometimes. If retards like that want to see a true example of selfless action to help an ally, they should look to the nation they love to bitch at for being spineless: France, the country that bailed them out. That would be ignorant, though... it's surely a minority.
creator: Spoony
date: 2007-11-18T21:13:31-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: I think the American healthcare system sucks.
creator: IronWarrior
date: 2007-11-18T21:19:57-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: I think most healthcare systems suck a lot.
creator: Herr Surth
date: 2007-11-18T21:22:48-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: GoArmy44 wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 15:13 Are you thinking of the Zimmerman Note? Yes, but unfortunately, I forgot that was a World War I instance. My bad.
creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2007-11-18T21:50:11-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Spoony has completely cracked the point through. As for the health care system argument you are either going to pay more taxes or have a shitty system it's as simple as that. Health insurance is another matter but I simply don't know enough about it to comment (That Michael Moore film does NOT mean I know anything about it...). Also notice how I am intending not to comment about things I know nothing or very little about perhaps some others should consider doing the same...
creator: Memphis
date: 2007-11-18T22:13:27-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: This argument can't be settled. So it'll be easier to do this. Canada > UK & USA.
creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2007-11-18T22:23:04-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: nikki6ixx wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 16:23 This argument can't be settled. So it'll be easier to do this. Canada > UK & USA.
creator: sadukar09
date: 2007-11-18T22:24:27-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: nikki6ixx wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 22:23 This argument can't be settled. So it'll be easier to do this. Canada > UK & USA. [22:28] <%nikki6ixx> Oh, and I think I successfully steered that US vs UK argument on RenForums [22:28] * @Sex_Kytten checks Dude you just fucking lost! Oh one last thing......as a testament to American gun hoe fever......you drowned hundreds of your own men accidentally whilst training for D-Day....... GG
creator: Kytten9
date: 2007-11-18T22:32:44-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Spoony wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 16:13 PlastoJoe wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 14:56 At least we didn't lose to the French. How humiliating. I think you completely missed the point. My point wasn't slating America for that, it was a jibe to the multitude of retarded, arrogant Americans who say things like "you'd be speaking German if it wasn't for us" every time they're losing an argument with a European. It makes me think America is the one country that hasn't gotten over World War 2, sometimes. If retards like that want to see a true example of selfless action to help an ally, they should look to the nation they love to bitch at for being spineless: France, the country that bailed them out. That would be ignorant, though... it's surely a minority. The French didn't help us until we defeated the British at Saratoga. That started to change the tide of the war. I am confident in saying that we could have won without the French. We couldn't have won as easily, but I feel we would have without the French. As far as regarding them as spineless, I still feel that way about the French. Just because they may have helped us back 200-something years ago doesn't mean that things haven't changed. Things obviously have. We've become the world's largest superpower.
creator: cheesesoda
date: 2007-11-18T22:48:17-00:00

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description: [14:32] <Sex_Kytten> nikki6ixx [14:32] <Sex_Kytten> Oh one last thing......as a testament to American gun hoe fever......you drowned hundreds of your own men accidentally whilst training for D-Day....... GG [14:32] <cr0sis> and 8 batteries [14:33] <Sex_Kytten> [22:30] <@_3663Nixon> i think i should have a say in this [14:33] <Sex_Kytten> ok well i'll throw them away [14:33] <nikki6ixx> I'm not American, btw [14:33] * Sex_Kytten leaves [14:33] <Sex_Kytten> yes you are [14:33] <cr0sis> I know what you could do [14:33] <tactic356> nikki [14:33] <nikki6ixx> Nope [14:33] <cr0sis> Chain yourself up with them [14:33] <tactic356> dont deny it [14:33] <Sex_Kytten> you just have health care [14:33] <tactic356> canada is part of america [14:33] <Sex_Kytten> and gun control [14:33] <cr0sis> and throw the key [14:34] <nikki6ixx> You know, it's always the English who say Americans are ignorant [14:34] <Sex_Kytten> no [14:34] <nikki6ixx> And yet, that is one ignorant statement [14:34] <Sex_Kytten> it's always everyone in the entire world [14:34] <Sex_Kytten> and is it fuck [14:34] <Sex_Kytten> I fucking lived there [14:34] <cr0sis> fuck fuck fuckety [14:34] <cr0sis> fuck [14:34] <Sex_Kytten> I watched a program on Jay Leno [14:34] <cr0sis> ??!FUCK!?!? [14:34] <Sex_Kytten> "Where is Coppenhaggen" [14:34] <Sex_Kytten> "errr 7/11" [14:34] <Sex_Kytten> that's fucking dumb [14:35] <cr0sis> Hagen Dasz! [14:35] <cr0sis> -s [14:35] <cr0sis> i think [14:35] <Sex_Kytten> "what would you say If i told you it was in Denmark?" [14:35] <Sex_Kytten> "eeerrrr where?" [14:35] <Sex_Kytten> Americans ARE ignorant of every country that isnt canada and Mexico [14:35] <cr0sis> IRAN WHEEEEEEE [14:35] <nikki6ixx> But you saw that on Leno, right? [14:35] <Sex_Kytten> and the only reason they acknowledge them is because [14:35] * cr0sis brb, gettin nukes [14:36] <tactic356> BLOW SOME CHUNKS [14:36] <nikki6ixx> You saw that on Jay Leno, right? [14:36] <Sex_Kytten> Mexicans are trying to invade [14:36] <cr0s…
creator: nikki6ixx
date: 2007-11-18T22:49:37-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Kytten9 wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 11:55 Jake....honey I love you, but most the world looks down on your leaders because your leaders have never let the world forget they exist. The USA claims to be the worlds ONLY superpower. If that is in fact the case then of course every other country will critise you/your leadership it's what happens when people get elevated on to pedestals, just don't look down you'll be ok. I've lived in the USA and I currently live in the UK and I can firmly say BOTH GOVERNMENTS SUCK! NEXT STOP CANADA. As for UK > US People from the US think that English people are all TALLY HOE and Mary Poppins with bad teeth. OMG U CAN'T SPELL WHY DO YOU PUT U IN NEIGHBOR AND LABOR People from the UK think Americans are all inbred rednecks with bad education and worse knowledge of life.OMG YOU CANT SPELL WHY DONT YOU PUT U IN NEIGHBOUR AND LABOUR They are called stereotypes.....give each other some credit. The world is more diverse than that! I hate America coz I had a really poor experience there and it just brings back bad memories and feelings so I cut off my nose to spite my face and vowed never to return. But I love most of it's people......I have my reasons. I love England because it's my home country, place of birth and we have healthcare but I hate alot of it's people.....see my point? At least, my country isn't socialized... yet.
creator: cheesesoda
date: 2007-11-18T23:01:02-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Spoony wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 15:13 PlastoJoe wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 14:56 At least we didn't lose to the French. How humiliating. I think you completely missed the point. My point wasn't slating America for that, it was a jibe to the multitude of retarded, arrogant Americans who say things like "you'd be speaking German if it wasn't for us" every time they're losing an argument with a European. It makes me think America is the one country that hasn't gotten over World War 2, sometimes. If retards like that want to see a true example of selfless action to help an ally, they should look to the nation they love to bitch at for being spineless: France, the country that bailed them out. That would be ignorant, though... it's surely a minority. Now that I see your point, I understand. But I also understand why you might see this as the case, though in defense, I have heard maybe one person ever say that. And he's an asshole, which I'm sure you have in the UK too. I don't imagine that French assistance in the American Revolution was selfless, though. No nation goes into a war without an agenda. To put it simply, France would've loved to see Britain screwed over by losing a colony, especially since they lost a lot of territory to them.
creator: PlastoJoe
date: 2007-11-18T23:41:38-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: nikki6ixx wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 16:49 Really fucking long IRC log Real Mature. At least to me, it says something about someone's character when they plug their ears, and drown out someone else's voice. Hehe.
creator: sadukar09
date: 2007-11-18T23:45:15-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: nikki6ixx wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 16:50 GoArmy44 wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 15:13 Are you thinking of the Zimmerman Note? Yes, but unfortunately, I forgot that was a World War I instance. My bad. Its cool...I am just kinda picky on historical details. I guess it comes with being a history major.
creator: GoArmy44
date: 2007-11-19T00:11:41-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: It's funny because most europeans makes fun of us 24/7, and when we say one little thing about them, they get all offensive saying that we make fun of them a lot. It's funny because America is mostly made up of Ex-Europeans. It's funny when Europeans are touring in america or something, and spend most of their time looking for a group of fat people to take a pic of to make all of America look fat. It's funny when a single American is stupid, Europeans and other countries assume it's all of America than a single American.
creator: BlueThen
date: 2007-11-19T00:51:12-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Subjective topics suck. Oh wait, this is Heated Discussions and Debates...
creator: Jecht
date: 2007-11-19T00:59:36-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: I think no one really is taking this for real, it's just a topic to piss about. I've been in enough UK vs US wars to last me for life, there is little point to them.
creator: IronWarrior
date: 2007-11-19T02:26:37-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Spoony wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 16:13 PlastoJoe wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 14:56 At least we didn't lose to the French. How humiliating. I think you completely missed the point. My point wasn't slating America for that, it was a jibe to the multitude of retarded, arrogant Americans who say things like "you'd be speaking German if it wasn't for us" every time they're losing an argument with a European. It makes me think America is the one country that hasn't gotten over World War 2, sometimes. If retards like that want to see a true example of selfless action to help an ally, they should look to the nation they love to bitch at for being spineless: France, the country that bailed them out. That would be ignorant, though... it's surely a minority. ??? I have never ONCE in my LIFE heard any American ever relay that sort of message to anyone under any circumstance... I really have no idea where you would get that idea. Maybe it is YOU who cannot get over WW2...?
creator: R315r4z0r
date: 2007-11-19T02:45:09-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: razorblade001 wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 20:45 Spoony wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 16:13 PlastoJoe wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 14:56 At least we didn't lose to the French. How humiliating. I think you completely missed the point. My point wasn't slating America for that, it was a jibe to the multitude of retarded, arrogant Americans who say things like "you'd be speaking German if it wasn't for us" every time they're losing an argument with a European. It makes me think America is the one country that hasn't gotten over World War 2, sometimes. If retards like that want to see a true example of selfless action to help an ally, they should look to the nation they love to bitch at for being spineless: France, the country that bailed them out. That would be ignorant, though... it's surely a minority. ??? I have never ONCE in my LIFE heard any American ever relay that sort of message to anyone under any circumstance... I really have no idea where you would get that idea. Maybe it is YOU who cannot get over WW2...? I have met many Americans who have said the same ignorant shit, so it's quite commen.
creator: IronWarrior
date: 2007-11-19T04:24:24-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: I have never heard anyone ever say that :\ In fact it probably wouldn't even cross anyone's mind to say that, of the people I know anyway...
creator: R315r4z0r
date: 2007-11-19T04:41:30-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: like i said california needs to secede and become its own world power
creator: Rocko
date: 2007-11-19T06:26:41-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: razorblade001 wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 20:45 I have never ONCE in my LIFE heard any American ever relay that sort of message to anyone under any circumstance... I really have no idea where you would get that idea. Maybe it is YOU who cannot get over WW2...? I'm not gonna dignify that with an answer.
creator: Spoony
date: 2007-11-19T07:44:31-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/2582-Ze ro-Punctuation-MOH-Airborne
creator: Ryu
date: 2007-11-19T08:03:26-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Ryu wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 03:03 http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/2582-Ze ro-Punctuation-MOH-Airborne Hahaha that's hilarious. At the end of the day perhaps the history books according to Hollywood is of more interest to some people than what actually happened. I am trying to think of a way of diverting this topic from opinions (factual or otherwise) of Governments and war outcomes. The only thing I can currently come up with is currency strength which is actually rather boring. Needless to say bad decisions by lenders in the US has caused a lot of trouble around the globe although I don't know whether to blame the lenders or the people that can't pay their bills.
creator: Memphis
date: 2007-11-19T08:22:44-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Ridiculous topic. The UK is our best and most valuable ally. Both sides have points in discussing history here, but quite frankly this is purely a matter of opinion. The very fact that 200 years after a massive conflict between our nations we are reconciled and work together so well is a testament to civilization and the free world. Of all nations, Britain gets my undying respect for their quality of character and hardiness as well as their dignified stance in the face of annihilation. You should think twice before insulting a nation that stared down the most aggressive and dangerous European empire in the last 2000 years. Likewise, America should get credit for the role it has played in that same conflict. Democracy and freedom in it's current iteration hinges on the success of our nations. Why don't we discuss something with more meaning like: Why is Putin reverting Russia's fledgling democracy to communist nationalism and what are the implications of their rotting nuclear infrastructure on world stability.
creator: KIRBY-098
date: 2007-11-19T15:30:37-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Sneaks in... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0282195/ Google/Youtube can be used to find video segments of this. Sneaks out...
creator: warranto
date: 2007-11-19T15:32:07-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: warranto wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 09:32 Sneaks in... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0282195/ Google/Youtube can be used to find video segments of this. Sneaks out... Humorous, perhaps. But remember you're talking to a group selected for its ignorance. This is hardly a representative sample of the core of America. Americans get tagged with this label after Jay Leno talks with trailer trash or paris hilton wannabees about politics, and Europeans beleive it....
creator: KIRBY-098
date: 2007-11-19T15:37:57-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Oh I know, at it was meant as satire as well, in no means was it intended to be taken seriously. Unfortunately because it plays on those already-established stereotypes, people use it as "proof". I thought it would just be a humorous thing to include in the discussion since stereotypes were mentioned.
creator: warranto
date: 2007-11-19T15:47:12-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Ok, I have to say that KIRBY-098 seems to have summed this topic up brilliantly and in a balanced way so I'm out of this debate now.
creator: Memphis
date: 2007-11-19T17:59:23-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Rocko wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 00:18 WEST COAST 4 LIFE WEST COAST 4 LIFE Actually, fuck that, North Carolina forever!!!! We at least talking about WWII times we had General Eishwnwer, Nimitz, and Patton!
creator: The Elite Officer
date: 2007-11-20T16:46:13-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: UK sucks cause you don't have a National Holiday designed for being thankful and even more important, directly involved with the eating of a large meal. I get 2 days off of school for eating food.
creator: R315r4z0r
date: 2007-11-20T20:09:48-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Getting a driver's licence in the US is a piece of cake...EVEN A CAVEMAN CAN DO IT!
creator: Starbuzz
date: 2007-11-20T22:06:17-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Starbuzz wrote on Tue, 20 November 2007 16:06 Getting a driver's licence in the US is a piece of cake...EVEN A CAVEMAN CAN DO IT! and thats good how?
creator: jimmyny
date: 2007-11-21T01:34:32-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: jimmyny wrote on Tue, 20 November 2007 18:34 Starbuzz wrote on Tue, 20 November 2007 16:06 Getting a driver's licence in the US is a piece of cake...EVEN A CAVEMAN CAN DO IT! and thats good how? Commercial reference. http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=caveman+%2Bgeico
creator: warranto
date: 2007-11-21T01:46:08-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Spoony wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 09:26 kikiller wrote on Sat, 17 November 2007 23:28 us and uk are on the same side, we kicked your asses 200 years ago, dont make us do it again. Read a history book. You were getting raped and had to beg the French to bail you out. How humiliating. Didn't beg. And a countries allies is a part of it's strength. And the english people were pretty much against the war. And the soldiers didn't have that much of a reason, not a whole lot of morale :/ . Memphis wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 11:23 Russia for standing up to the US on certain matters. I can to some degree see Russia becoming a new super power within Europe. Isn't Russia in Asia... Spoony wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 15:16 GoArmy44 wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 13:52 We didn't do much? We were your number one supplier of war material(lend lease)...you know...the stuff that allowed you to fight Hitler(this is not even mentioning the First World War) and kept him from squashing you like every other European country (principally naval resources). It was "your" war because you let it brew right in your own back yard....England and France pressed the Versailles Treaty because of hatred and revenge...and then appeased the madmen that resulted from it when they started on their warpath. Uh, no. As soon as the "warpath" started (the invasion of Poland), we declared war pretty much immediately (on the same day, I think?). Sticking up for our friends and allies, see? Whereas the US hung around on the sidelines for a good two years. Even after Pearl Harbour was bombed, you still didn't declare war on Germany. They declared war on you. America took so god damn long to get into World War 2 for political reasons, end of. Neither of the Presidential candidates dared it. We didn't care about that, our friends and allies were attacked so we jumped into the fray. America can't claim that. We get bashed for staying out and we get bashed for doing something... :/
creator: bisen11
date: 2007-11-21T04:31:17-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: bisen11 wrote on Tue, 20 November 2007 22:31 Memphis wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 11:23 Russia for standing up to the US on certain matters. I can to some degree see Russia becoming a new super power within Europe. Isn't Russia in Asia... Look on a map, Russia extends across Europe AND Asia. So yea, it is... but it's also in Europe.
creator: BlueThen
date: 2007-11-21T04:33:20-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: In Soviet Russia, Car licenses YOU!
creator: R315r4z0r
date: 2007-11-21T05:38:14-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: razorblade001 wrote on Tue, 20 November 2007 23:38 In Soviet Russia, Car licenses YOU! In Soviet Russia, TV Watches YOU!
creator: Ryu
date: 2007-11-21T07:59:39-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: bisen11 wrote on Tue, 20 November 2007 22:31 Didn't beg. lol bisen11 wrote on Tue, 20 November 2007 22:31 We get bashed for staying out and we get bashed for doing something... :/ or rather, bisen11 should have wrote on Tue, 20 November 2007 22:31 We get bashed for staying out of a real war out of political cowardice while Europe is getting ravaged, and we get bashed for a bullshit, catastrophic war for oil :/ like I said... don't compare Iraq to World War 2
creator: Spoony
date: 2007-11-21T08:43:12-00:00

Re: UK > US
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description: Okay, beings stupid people live everywhere, everywhere sucks equally.
creator: Jerad2142
date: 2007-11-21T14:30:58-00:00