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MexPirate wrote on Sun, 27 May 2007 17:12 Do you use cheats? Wtf? That was the most random post ive ever seen.
No. :/ (Bet he is trying to get everyone to flame me XD )
what kind of question is that? every1s gonna deny it...
I think he's asking me... for some reason... o.O I don't even recall playing you?
Something like this should be sent to him as a private message. Please don't make whole topics just to ask a certain member a question. I was asked to keep this open for more discussion. I'm re-opening it for now.
I know why he's asking... there is a poster on a cheat site called "Bluethen" who is speaking a lot about using and creating cheats. It isn't exactly a common name.
Crimson wrote on Sun, 27 May 2007 19:06 I know why he's asking... there is a poster on a cheat site called "Bluethen" who is speaking a lot about using and creating cheats. It isn't exactly a common name. I was just about to say the same, Only the thread was locked.
EKT-Sadukar wrote on Sun, 27 May 2007 17:26 what kind of question is that? every1s gonna deny it... Yes but you can't "deny" it if you truly did not do the shit.
I locked it because it didn't need to be posted as a whole thread, since it was a personal question. If I knew about his name posting on the cheat site, I wouldn't have done it, as it would be fine for open discussion. Meaning, if Alex posted before I saw this, I wouldn't have locked it. Just bad timing.
I sent crimson the info.
bluethen wrote on Sun, 27 May 2007 19:57 I sent crimson the info. lyke omg, you cheater!
bluethen wrote on Sun, 27 May 2007 19:57 I sent crimson the info. So that's a yes, then?
icedog90 wrote on Sun, 27 May 2007 19:47 Meaning, if Alex posted before I saw this, I wouldn't have locked it. Just bad timing. I figured. lol
MaidenTy1 wrote on Sun, 27 May 2007 22:11 bluethen wrote on Sun, 27 May 2007 19:57 I sent crimson the info. So that's a yes, then? No. I told crimson why there was a bluethen account on that site.
2 Questions; 1) Why is this in the general discussion? This could get ugly. (This is a question for a moderator or admin.) 2) Why tell Crimson and not the rest of us?
Well, the topic hasn't gotten fugly yet, and telling the entire community would probably create a lot of useless controversy.
I'm trying my best to avoid being flamed for something I don't do. I'm hoping for a mod to lock this topic.
i played with bluethen before he really really good but idk if he cheats!
I don't see a reason here for anyone to flame you. I wouldn't worry about it.
bluethen Flymode + invincibility. I get to go to places that normal havocs can't go. That's what he said there. That sounds like admitting to cheating like me, and he now also said it's his account...
bluethen wrote on Sun, 27 May 2007 23:33 I told crimson why there was a bluethen account on that site. What about Evil White Dragon? He also has an account at the same site. Does that mean that he cheats? Albeit they believe that he is moving to "The Dark Side" and he refuses to go. Yes, Crimson is aware of the site.
puddle_splasher wrote on Mon, 28 May 2007 11:07 bluethen wrote on Sun, 27 May 2007 23:33 I told crimson why there was a bluethen account on that site. What about Evil White Dragon? He also has an account at the same site. Does that mean that he cheats? Albeit they believe that he is moving to "The Dark Side" and he refuses to go. Yes, Crimson is aware of the site. I have registered there, abd I do reply there sometimes, but I refuse to cheat, and they where trying to trick me into it
trick someone into cheating? how exactly does one do that? say "here's a cool flourescent tank skin"?
I dunno, he dose not seem like a cheater to me? Well, I am going to stay out of this one for the best of everyone.
EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 28 May 2007 03:50 bluethen Flymode + invincibility. I get to go to places that normal havocs can't go. That's what he said there. That sounds like admitting to cheating like me, and he now also said it's his account... Uhm could someone with knowledge about these cheats please send me a PM it's possible to 'go to places that normal havocs can't go' on dedicated servers? Two days ago, my clanmate told me about a situation where a Technician somehow got into his base on Walls_Flying while he was watching tunnels and the front with an APC...but to my knowledge these jump and speedhacks only work for the host.
JohnDoe wrote on Mon, 28 May 2007 15:42 EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 28 May 2007 03:50 bluethen Flymode + invincibility. I get to go to places that normal havocs can't go. That's what he said there. That sounds like admitting to cheating like me, and he now also said it's his account... Uhm could someone with knowledge about these cheats please send me a PM it's possible to 'go to places that normal havocs can't go' on dedicated servers? Two days ago, my clanmate told me about a situation where a Technician somehow got into his base on Walls_Flying while he was watching tunnels and the front with an APC...but to my knowledge these jump and speedhacks only work for the host. *caugh* has an spectator mode, which makes it for you that you are somewhere, while at the server, you are not there, I think. Also there are ways to teleport you on the server, which can be initiated clientside. But BIATCH blocks those now.
JohnDoe wrote on Mon, 28 May 2007 08:42 Uhm could someone with knowledge about these cheats please send me a PM it's possible to 'go to places that normal havocs can't go' on dedicated servers? Two days ago, my clanmate told me about a situation where a Technician somehow got into his base on Walls_Flying while he was watching tunnels and the front with an APC...but to my knowledge these jump and speedhacks only work for the host. Try visiting the FM-clan!!! They are using the re-spawn anywhere hax.
puddle_splasher wrote on Mon, 28 May 2007 11:30 Try visiting the FM-clan!!! They are using the re-spawn anywhere hax. I want to respawn in the tiberium field!
Silent Kane wrote on Mon, 28 May 2007 20:14 puddle_splasher wrote on Mon, 28 May 2007 11:30 Try visiting the FM-clan!!! They are using the re-spawn anywhere hax. I want to respawn in the tiberium field! Well, why dont you teleport towards it?
I want to respawn inside the enemy harvester to take them from within!
I asked because I didn't know and I don't know you - giving you a chance to explain as the posts on said forum most certainly looked like they were coming from someone looking to cheat, I didn't want to make assumptions but I think people cheating should be common knowledge. Any reason why your reasons need to be sent via pm to crimson and not posted here? makes it all look a little suspicious that's all. Puddle, lol - just lol.
MexPirate wrote on Mon, 28 May 2007 11:47 I asked because I didn't know and I don't know you - giving you a chance to explain as the posts on said forum most certainly looked like they were coming from someone looking to cheat, I didn't want to make assumptions but I think people cheating should be common knowledge. That's kind of what I thought a while later. My mistake.
A lot of people already know that I am on that site, and they often check my account there. I do not cheat in servers that wish for me not to cheat. Only in private ones. I've only been curious in cheats so I can learn more in how to mod stuff. The cheat creators seem to teach more than most others. I have promised to myself and to other people that I will never cheat in a public server, nor release any cheats. Yes. I do cheat. I do make cheats. For singleplayer that is. In a small request, please don't flame me.
MaidenTy1 wrote on Mon, 28 May 2007 08:24 trick someone into cheating? how exactly does one do that? say "here's a cool flourescent tank skin"? just like how Kane got a bunch of followers and teleport in the lava! (canyon)
bluethen wrote on Mon, 28 May 2007 14:49 I do make cheats. Have you ever given/allowed someone to have any? Why did you answer no then?
EKT-Sadukar wrote on Mon, 28 May 2007 14:50 MaidenTy1 wrote on Mon, 28 May 2007 08:24 trick someone into cheating? how exactly does one do that? say "here's a cool flourescent tank skin"? just like how Kane got a bunch of followers and teleport in the lava! (volcano) Fixed, I was in the lava before it dose not hurt you or anything if you shoot it its like metal.
u didnt say what TYPE of cheat...if u said multiplayer he couldve said no. if u said singleplayer he can say yes if u just said cheat in generally i guess hes thinking about multiplayer
EKT-Sadukar wrote on Mon, 28 May 2007 14:53 u didnt say what TYPE of cheat...if u said multiplayer he couldve said no. if u said singleplayer he can say yes if u just said cheat in generally i guess hes thinking about multiplayer I was thinking about MP when he asked... That's why I said no. :/ I will be releasing the SP cheats. But I have them so that they won't work in multiplayer. When you all are describing cheats to me, the only thing in my mind was Multiplayer Online. I only cheat in singleplayer to make it more interesting.
MexPirate wrote on Mon, 28 May 2007 14:51 bluethen wrote on Mon, 28 May 2007 14:49 I do make cheats. Have you ever given/allowed someone to have any? The other question was followed by ie, it wasn't meant to be taken seriously.
dont want 2 say it but i told u so
Meh, Who cares really? If he cheats on servers, BIATCH will catch them now. So its not really a big OMGZ HAXORZ!!!! anymore. As long as he stays private, or in single player mode, I dont have a problem knowing he cheats. 0x90 Cheats, but he doesnt go to public servers- I DONT THINK. The only difference, 0x90 makes the cheats readily available to everyone who wants to be a dick.
BIATCH doesn't stop ALL cheats, that's why it's still a concern.
Crimson wrote on Mon, 28 May 2007 19:40 BIATCH doesn't stop ALL cheats, that's why it's still a concern. It stops most except aimbot.
Yes, I know that... That was kinda my point. Hence, the concern is that bluethen could be potentially making and releasing the types of cheats that are not currently stopped server-side, making your argument of "Who cares? BIATCH will catch him!" invalid.
BIATCH= Basic Integrated Anti T??? Cheating H????
BIATCH Documentation Black-Intel Anti-Cheat System
Crimson wrote on Mon, 28 May 2007 19:48 Yes, I know that... That was kinda my point. Hence, the concern is that bluethen could be potentially making and releasing the types of cheats that are not currently stopped server-side, making your argument of "Who cares? BIATCH will catch him!" invalid. Well, it will certainly make him watch which cheats he uss. My point was, other then aimbot, there arent many things that biatch wont catch. Aimbot can be stopped SS. The double spawn thing?
Ralphzehunter wrote on Tue, 29 May 2007 02:32 BIATCH Documentation Black-Intel Anti-Cheat System BlackIntel AnTi-CHeat, updated in the documentation now too. Aimbot can not be stopped on the server side. I don't know what the double spawn thing would be, but I can't imagine that it would still work in the newest version of BIATCH. There are other things BIATCH can not catch at the moment though.
cheekay77 wrote on Mon, 28 May 2007 18:19 Meh, Who cares really? If he cheats on servers, BIATCH will catch them now. So its not really a big OMGZ HAXORZ!!!! anymore. As long as he stays private, or in single player mode, I dont have a problem knowing he cheats. 0x90 Cheats, but he doesnt go to public servers- I DONT THINK. The only difference, 0x90 makes the cheats readily available to everyone who wants to be a dick. you know nothing and are in no position to comment tbh - people creating and distributing cheats mean people who know nothing can cheat.
MexPirate wrote on Tue, 29 May 2007 16:46 cheekay77 wrote on Mon, 28 May 2007 18:19 Meh, Who cares really? If he cheats on servers, BIATCH will catch them now. So its not really a big OMGZ HAXORZ!!!! anymore. As long as he stays private, or in single player mode, I dont have a problem knowing he cheats. 0x90 Cheats, but he doesnt go to public servers- I DONT THINK. The only difference, 0x90 makes the cheats readily available to everyone who wants to be a dick. you know nothing and are in no position to comment tbh - people creating and distributing cheats mean people who know nothing can cheat. Random flame? Alittle childish? Anyways, my point was, in another topic someone was talking about a Server-side mod where you actually spawn a double, that the aimbot thinks is the real, and fires into it. Theres probably more too
I found your post flawed and a little dumb, I care if he cheats in servers - cheaters piss me and most of this community off. BIATCH doesn't stop everything and from what I understand ox90 doesn't even own a copy of renegade, I also found your post a little hypocritical considering your/our history. I also find it somewhat hard to believe that someone would go to all the effort of creating a cheat and not even use it - single player isn't exactly hard, why would you need cheats.
well u sort of die in one hit from a buggy hs (when u run or dodge...) or a arty splash...(on commando)
I don't have one shot one kills in sp just to make it easier... I have flying so I can explore, I have it so I can change myself into a chicken, I can friggen reign nukes on nod. I only cheat on singleplayer for experimentation(is that a word?). If you don't like cheating in singleplayer, fine with me. But don't criticize me for my experiments, which are causing no harm or making anything against a live person unfair.
ive played blue b4 and i dont think he cheats...he never racks up alot of kills, he gets killed quite alot, and i pwn him all the time XD ( maybe i exaggerated with the pwning). i do beleive what he says about only using it for sp and private servers LOL.
I know why there on ther they are spying so they can take the chaets down before they can be used
superj69 wrote on Fri, 01 June 2007 11:45 ive played blue b4 and i dont think he cheats...he never racks up alot of kills, he gets killed quite alot, and i pwn him all the time XD ( maybe i exaggerated with the pwning). i do beleive what he says about only using it for sp and private servers LOL. Was I afk?
Sounds cool to me, how about we lock this shit up now as the question has been answered and troop will be incapable of controlling himself.
Bump: Sorry but I had to add this aswell. 09-15-2006, 09:16 PM #17 bluethen Posting Well Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28 Reputation: 13 Rep Power: 15 Lol, I never cheat for joy, I only cheat to get revenge to another cheater. I call it COUNTER-HACKING!! And then I use the cheats to inspire me on mods. __________________ I'm looking at you with one eye, and the other person with the other...
Sorry, I have bigger things to worry about in my life. But please, feel free.
Caveman wrote on Mon, 11 June 2007 06:52 Bump: Sorry but I had to add this aswell. 09-15-2006, 09:16 PM #17 bluethen Posting Well Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28 Reputation: 13 Rep Power: 15 Lol, I never cheat for joy, I only cheat to get revenge to another cheater. I call it COUNTER-HACKING!! And then I use the cheats to inspire me on mods. __________________ I'm looking at you with one eye, and the other person with the other... Anti-Hacker? I would too. Might as well piss them off as much as they piss off the other players, no?
Do you not realise how many times us server owners have heard someone say that? "i'm only cheating so I can piss off the other cheater." It doesn't work like that cheating is cheating. He first said that he only cheats on SP mode, well now thats a lie, hes now saying he only cheats when other cheaters are about, whats next? I only cheat because.....because well I want to cheat?
Caveman wrote on Mon, 11 June 2007 15:33 Do you not realise how many times us server owners have heard someone say that? "i'm only cheating so I can piss off the other cheater." It doesn't work like that cheating is cheating. He first said that he only cheats on SP mode, well now thats a lie, hes now saying he only cheats when other cheaters are about, whats next? I only cheat because.....because well I want to cheat? IF the cheater ONLY Goes for the other cheater, I'm pretty sure your whole team is going to love you.
That was months ago. :/ I don't do that. Edit: It's also weird that everyone knows what site I am on.
Caveman wrote on Mon, 11 June 2007 14:33 hes now saying he only cheats when other cheaters are about 09-15-2006 doesn't sound very recent to me... Out of wich sewer did you dig this up? In the past im sure I said some things that are exponentially more retarded than this. Luckily we don't live in the past. People change. For the better most of the times. Consider that. Thanks.
whow wtf. Well you did a great job making mexpirate look like a fucktard, since he wanted it locked. Ofcourse hes going to deny it, and people like BBF members will surely accept his lies, 3 month ban, then back in buisnees, ROFL. As you can read, I never for a second belived him for 2 reasons: 1)the type of shit he said on those cheating forums, no way he would say ll that and not cheat ingame, no fucking way. As he posted that stuff, he either planned to cheat online almost immedialty or all ready had, according to the things he said. 2)he just like the rest, kinda reminds of of cheeky. cheats, get caught, tries to confess (partialy) to make himself look good, people belive him, then there right back at it. Not saying thats whats gonna happen to either of then, althought a possibility, but he gets caught again in a lie, now lets watch what the fuck hes gonna say to get people to belive him, GFG
I'd rather everything about me be delt with maturely, so maybe trooprm02 should be discluded from all this.
Slave wrote on Mon, 11 June 2007 15:07 Caveman wrote on Mon, 11 June 2007 14:33 hes now saying he only cheats when other cheaters are about 09-15-2006 doesn't sound very recent to me... Out of wich sewer did you dig this up? In the past im sure I said some things that are exponentially more retarded than this. Luckily we don't live in the past. People change. For the better most of the times. Consider that. Thanks. I really couldn't care if he said it 5 years ago, he still publicly admitted he cheats. Theres no such thing as an Anti Cheater (Be his definition.) If you load cheats, then you're a cheater. Your intentions may have been for the better (Cheating against the cheater) but can you HONESTLY say that you never, not once killed someone that wasn't a cheater while you were "Anti-Cheating"? Too be honest its quite a pathetic reason to cheat. I've heard better. As to your question bluethen, i'm not flaming you because you visited a certain site because people from BI/BHS also visit that site. Some of them have even downloaded the cheats that've been released there. But im quite sure it was purely for testing purposes in there OWN LOCKED PRIVATE SERVER. No a public one. Once a thief always a thief, right? Well its the same for a cheater. Its the rush that they get from making people annoyed/upset that make most people cheat. 9/10 of the "ex-cheaters" around here will tell you the same thing.
Like I said before, I only cheated once or twice in a private server. It never bothered anyone because I was keeping someone else from cheating by using cheats. I drove him away.
stfu with your bullshit. Leave these forums, you can lie all you want and hope people belive you but you've got SOOO much shit against you, its hilarious...actually...keep talking
trooprm02 wrote on Mon, 11 June 2007 19:08 stfu with your bullshit. Leave these forums, you can lie all you want and hope people belive you but you've got SOOO much shit against you, its hilarious...actually...keep talking (apologies for the off topic, people, but...) Honestly. I've said it once, and I'll say it again... GTFO! Your whole 1396 posts are 99% FLAME and ARROGANCE! All you do is flame and it is REALLY annoying. I'm not worrying about being banned as much as you should be. I'm not telling you to gtfo because you beat me in a 1vs1 match that I don't even recall, I'm not saying it because I'm afraid of you, I'm saying it because (As maybe over half the forum would agree with) You are a immature, arrogant, piece of shit! All your posts are bullshit or attempts at being a smart ass. Especially when you can't think of anything reasonable to say, all you'd say is "GFG " or "GG " It is really annoying and me, along with many other people would like to see the last of you. Stay out of the topics in relation to me or anything that has me to do with it, because the least I'd rather is people with the half of the arrogance as you, and that is still pretty bad. I am done having to put up with your stupidity. +ignore GFG, you bastard.
that x15million is how the rest of us feel about cheating. Its people like you who made TONS of people leave before renguard was finished because of cheating, and when *cough* was first realsed. Like I said, keep selling your shit in hopes of people buying it but ive SEEN MANY cases of this same shit OVER and OVER, and if u ask around so too have MANY other people. We dont need this shit ontop of the other renegade problems, nor do we wont it to die because of peices of shit like you, ffs no body cares about ur cheating ass, nor any other cheaters, and if you havent nmoticed that you ARE retarted
trooprm02 wrote on Tue, 12 June 2007 01:43 that x15million is how the rest of us feel about cheating. I don't mind cheating in singleplayer. I've done it before, but then I got bored of doing the same missions over and over again. trooprm02 wrote on Tue, 12 June 2007 01:43 Like I said, keep selling your shit in hopes of people buying it but ive SEEN MANY cases of this same shit OVER and OVER, and if u ask around so too have MANY other people. Where? trooprm02 wrote on Tue, 12 June 2007 01:43 We dont need this shit ontop of the other renegade problems, nor do we wont it to die because of peices of shit like you, ffs no body cares about ur cheating ass, nor any other cheaters, and if you havent nmoticed that you ARE retarted I care, I like bluethen. I dislike you. Renegade is not going to "die" because of people having a little extra fun offline. It is more likely Renegade is going to die because retards like you end up filling all the servers, causing XWIS to think "what have we done? D:" and shutting down their server.
the concept of "I only cheat because they do" is the most retarded argument ever devised to justify it. If someone is cheating then you ban them, get them banned or leave the game - how exactly is jumping in game with your cheats helping anything?
MexPirate wrote on Tue, 12 June 2007 07:12 the concept of "I only cheat because they do" is the most retarded argument ever devised to justify it. Heard it a few times directed at myself tbh...
MexPirate wrote on Tue, 12 June 2007 07:12 the concept of "I only cheat because they do" is the most retarded argument ever devised to justify it. If someone is cheating then you ban them, get them banned or leave the game - how exactly is jumping in game with your cheats helping anything? Yes. I know. I have stopped a long time ago. :/ Yet, I counter them.