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Simple question, do you think Crimson or whoever should ban JohnDoe?
If he's banned, Viking should be banned, too. Both are annoying, but they're not really worthy of being banned. However, if you're going to get rid of JohnDoe, I seriously do push for Viking to be banned, as well.
YES !! sorry, i got carried away
I personally don't read JohnDoe's posts so I don't know if he deserves a ban or not, but I would personally push for Viking.
If we ban him he will just come back as someone else.
Its not likely if a person is banned by IP. And if they do, they have unique characteristics that you can't miss.
I have 2 different Internet connections (one is dial up).
I don't see the point of this, you want to start banning annoying people from this forum?? You are going to get a long list if you start offering polls on people who havn't broken forum rules.
There's an "ignore user" forum feature for a reason.
MexPirate wrote on Mon, 19 March 2007 17:55 I don't see the point of this, you want to start banning annoying people from this forum?? You are going to get a long list if you start offering polls on people who havn't broken forum rules. They what him banned because of statements like these: JohnDoe wrote on Tue, 13 March 2007 02:00 Are you related to puddle? It's the same slider that effects every gunshot and explosion, dipshit. JohnDoe wrote on Sun, 18 March 2007 15:17 I like how he even put in different colors...hahaha that nerd is beyond help. JohnDoe wrote on Sun, 11 March 2007 15:28 Gonna cry, fruitcake? JohnDoe wrote on Tue, 13 March 2007 15:28 End of the day, you're a lonely geek that made an extremely stupid contribution to this thread while being serious. Which is a wast of server space. light wrote on Mon, 19 March 2007 18:01 There's an "ignore user" forum feature for a reason. Can you tell if someone is ignoring you?
Jerad Gray wrote on Tue, 20 March 2007 12:02 Can you tell if someone is ignoring you? No, you can't.
He just trolls all the time and randomly insults people. I think he should be kicked out, because a lot of people do not like him. Also, thanks to whoever Poll-ified this. Why can't we make polls in the first place?
Guys, this is retarded, grow up. I don't like how people here are wanting to ban anyone they don't like. The point of a ban is to remove a person who has destruction behavior and is doing harm to this forum. Viking is totally fine. If he annoys you, PLEASE use the ignore button or just don't read his topics. Let him be how he is, there is nothing wrong with that. JohnDoe may be trolling sometimes, but it's not hard to deal with him at all. There is a report button for a reason. I guarantee you that it works, because every moderator gets this highly noticeable indication at the top when something has been reported, and it doesn't get ignored. Also, a poll like this won't automatically make any decision for us at all. Anybody who votes is voting for nothing.
Why post on the Renegade forums if you hate the game, don't play it, and hate it's community? Banning him would be a favour, he shouldn't waste his time.
ehhh since when did he not play the game? Last time I checked he was in the best clan in Renegade lol
Ban that jerk, he made me cry on my keyboard and now it's broken!
icedog90 wrote on Mon, 19 March 2007 17:37 Guys, this is retarded, grow up. I don't like how people here are wanting to ban anyone they don't like. The point of a ban is to remove a person who has destruction behavior and is doing harm to this forum. JohnDoe is rather destructive to this forum, in case you hadn't noticed. Quote: Viking is totally fine. If he annoys you, PLEASE use the ignore button or just don't read his topics. Let him be how he is, there is nothing wrong with that. Viking shouldn't even be an issue. I have no idea why people are try to push Viking out along with JohnDoe. He's done nothing wrong. Quote: JohnDoe may be trolling sometimes, but it's not hard to deal with him at all. There is a report button for a reason. I guarantee you that it works, because every moderator gets this highly noticeable indication at the top when something has been reported, and it doesn't get ignored. A forum that can moderate itself is the best kind of forum, after all. Quote: Also, a poll like this won't automatically make any decision for us at all. Anybody who votes is voting for nothing. At least some people are actually showing some tact when it comes to the current condition of the forums here.
It is our job to moderate this forum, but we can't do it 24/7. There is no way I can do that; I have school, I have a job, and I have a life. I try to catch as much as I can, and it still isn't enough. If what you said is true, then why is the report button there in the first place? This forum is a community, not some nation governed by a ruler. Everyone should help each other. If you see a destructive post that really bothers you, and instead of reporting it you think "the moderator has to see it and take care of it, I shouldn't even need to press this button", then why do you even visit these forums? Do you even care?
icedog90 wrote on Mon, 19 March 2007 18:17 It is our job to moderate this forum, but we can't do it 24/7. There is no way I can do that; I have school, I have a job, and I have a life. I try to catch as much as I can, and it still isn't enough. You're right. You can't handle every situation in every forum 24/7, but you need to actually handle situations that need your attention whenever possible. No ones asking you to perform a miracle and make this your day job. Being a moderator requires you to do more than just move threads to the apporpriate forum. Quote: If what you said is true, then why is the report button there in the first place? This forum is a community, not some nation governed by a ruler. Everyone should help each other. If you see a destructive post that really bothers you, and instead of reporting it you think "the moderator has to see it and take care of it, I shouldn't even need to press this button", then why do you even visit these forums? Do you even care? That's the point of every online forum. A forum is a small or large community of people working in the same interests as everyone else. It's the members jobs to help the community grow and be prosporous, but it's the moderators job to actually handle all of the dirty work of eliminating the trolls and keeping the forums clean of worthless crap posts, so that the forum mebers can actually do what they do best, be a part of a community. If the majority of community members feel that someone on the forums is acting totally out of line, then it's their right to bring it to the attention of the forum moderators and administrators so they can deal with the issues themselves and settle on an agreement as to what needs to be done. If people are willing enough to take the initiative to start a poll to gather punblic opinion as to whether or not a destructive member should be banned, then it shows that people actually do care. They want to help make the forums a better place for all. Members, moderators, and administrators included.
You have good points, but I don't know what you're saying about how I do my job. I do a lot more than just move posts to the proper forums. There's no way you can tell what I do except for that, because that's the only thing that leaves a trail. If I remove a post or topic, it's usually impossible to tell if they were there in the first place. The reason I'm so against banning a member like JohnDoe so fast like this is because it seems to be happening way too much. I don't think we should just throw people out all the time. I feel like it should be taken with more maturity and that we should act like adults about it, instead of just whipping out the ban hammer. I think what really turned me off was how Viking was thrown into this whole thing. That is a perfect example of what I'm talking about.
I voted "I don't care" Why ban me, I did stuff in the past but I am okay now? Recently have I done anything? Maybe I have some bad spelling or post something dumb every now-and-then but what harm do I do?
JohnDoe has cobtinually verbally abused people and has already been banned for a month because of it. I don't know what Viking has supposedly done, but a ban on JohnDoe wouldn't be unjustified.
The point whoever said it was trying ot make was that you can't use the reasoning "he's annoying, so ban him" because there are a lot of people are annoying, so if one person is annoying and gets banned for it, it would only be fair that every annoying person gets banned.
I think that Viking has a very poor set of morals, but he hasn't done anything recently that would justify a ban. Doe on the otherhand, has nothing to offer but crap, we wouldn't be loosing anything by banning him.
I quite like the guy, but I voted don't care.
icedog90 wrote on Mon, 19 March 2007 19:19 You have good points, but I don't know what you're saying about how I do my job. I do a lot more than just move posts to the proper forums. There's no way you can tell what I do except for that, because that's the only thing that leaves a trail. If I remove a post or topic, it's usually impossible to tell if they were there in the first place. Sorry if it seemed like I was making remarks about how you do your job here. I was just speaking in general, to prove most of my points I was making. Quote: The reason I'm so against banning a member like JohnDoe so fast like this is because it seems to be happening way too much. I don't think we should just throw people out all the time. I feel like it should be taken with more maturity and that we should act like adults about it, instead of just whipping out the ban hammer. It may seem like the ban hammer shouldn't come this quickly, but the thing is, if you were to ban JohnDoe at some point in time, it would be best to do it now or sometime in the very near future. JohnDoe has had a banning comming for a very long time now, yet he hasn't gotten it yet. Don't think that you're throwing him out all willy nilly either. He's done nothing but troll this forum into oblivion ever since he joined here, and has had nothing to contribute, yet he's still here. It's a good idea to be able to distinguish between times where you need to take effort into investigating why you're banning said person, and when you feel that someone is causing way too much trouble to be allowed to stay for very long. JohnDoe fits into the latter category, if you ask me. Sometimes, a swift kick to the nuts is the only way to get certain internet people to shut up. Quote: I think what really turned me off was how Viking was thrown into this whole thing. That is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Viking shouldn't even be a part of this disscussion, and I don't know why people insisted on banning him.
Actually his first post was: JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 13 May 2006 19:12 Gran Turismo series is reason enough to stick to PS.. And you two started scrapping right off the bat.
Your points are clear. I have no further comment.
bigejoe14 wrote on Mon, 19 March 2007 21:48 It may seem like the ban hammer shouldn't come this quickly, but the thing is, if you were to ban JohnDoe at some point in time, it would be best to do it now or sometime in the very near future. JohnDoe has had a banning comming for a very long time now, yet he hasn't gotten it yet. That's not true. As I said a few posts ago, Blazer banned him rather recently for his verbal abuse. If you look at his post history, there's a significant stretch of time (I think 30 days) when he did not post.
OK, I was wrong. It was a week to start: Blazer wrote on Sun, 28 January 2007 02:06 Banned for one week. You won't be missed. I would suggest you take the time off to think about why you are such an ass, but I doubt you give a damn, and I fully expect the day that your ban expires you will immediately make some insulting spam post, except I won't just sit and shake my head like I have done in the past, I'm tired of your crap and you will abide by the forum rules or you will be gone. Have a nice week.
I'll put it this way: I wouldn't miss him.
The main point here is that he got banned for a week, then showed a tiny bit of better behaviour just after he came back (I remember being surprised that he actually stopped being abusive), but then rapidly fell back in his old habits or so it seems. I won't vote in this topic though, considering it's not a poll started by a moderator. Ow and teh report button works .
Honestly if you wouldn't take the guy so seriously you wouldn't even have a problem.. He's taking like 15 seconds to type up one line and some people are busting out page long essays to reply to him.
Still, it is a waste of my time to read his dumbfuck post
All of this is making me very sentimental!
I couldn't care less really. Up to the admins really.
JohnDoe wrote on Tue, 20 March 2007 01:06 Ban that jerk, he made me cry on my keyboard and now it's broken! that was a rip on someone elses joke. the seconds time, it wasn't funny.
JohnDoe needs to be banned before any more feelings are hurt!
JohnDoe wrote on Tue, 20 March 2007 07:52 No, but looking at your profile is. really there is no need for this kinda bs. you are just full of shit arent you? its posts like this that made my decision clear.. you obviously do it for kicks, why come to this forums if you hate this community? or is it exactly it, you hate this community so you come here to post insults and bs to as many as you can?
While we are at it, can you ban gamemodding too please? He was going to leave once and you dumbasses talked him out of it.
Oh, there are lots more people here that are more of an arse than gamemodding is. Me for example, I've never made a contribution to this community!
i still got a few years of maturing to do. i'm sure you can wait that long Like many people have said before, there is an ignore. We have all (except the < 14 year olds) have been through this stage at one time in their life.
I feel he should be added to people's ignore list by default.
gamemodding wrote on Tue, 20 March 2007 12:12 i still got a few years of maturing to do. i'm sure you can wait that long Like many people have said before, there is an ignore. We have all (except the < 14 year olds) have been through this stage at one time in their life. I do use the ignore function on you, and have done for some time. I used the "reveal" button for this post because I assumed your reply would have something to do with my post. The only thing with the ignore function is that it makes the forums look a bit untidy for me. Kinda like when a mod moves a topic to another forum, that looks kinda shitty too. //edit someone deleted your post whilst I was replying to it.
imo, if you ignore someone. you should not even know if they have posted. Then again, it gives you a chance to see the persons post. to see if it has any relevence to you. at first i was like, yeah lets ban him. but why would we do that? he doesn't break the rules (as far as i know) and as the saying goes "Sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me".
CarrierII wrote on Tue, 20 March 2007 18:41 I feel he should be added to people's ignore list by default. I propose we accept this compromise.
Why would you ignore gamemodding? Because he actually tries to do something worthwhile? Because he is actually trying to learn stuff and help people out with what he can?
In my opinion, nobody should be banned because they're deemed to be "annoying". But JohnDoe does constantly break the forum rules by flaming other members all the time, often with zero provocation. If in doubt about that last bit, just read these two threads in their entirety. http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&th=23414&start=0&rid=1 444 http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&th=23467&start=0&rid=1 444 Chronojam doesn't exactly do himself any favours in that last thread either, but whatever. Anyway, the point being that if no action at all is taken, this section of the forum rules is a joke: Quote: Harassment/Racism/Flaming: Harassment of other members, racism, or any hate speech in general will not be tolerated. Moderators will be the judge of what is intolerable, and what is not. Also, please refrain from flaming other members. If you really must, keep it inside of the Hot Issues forum.
icedog90 wrote on Mon, 19 March 2007 18:37 Guys, this is retarded, grow up. I don't like how people here are wanting to ban anyone they don't like. The point of a ban is to remove a person who has destruction behavior and is doing harm to this forum. Viking is totally fine. If he annoys you, PLEASE use the ignore button or just don't read his topics. Let him be how he is, there is nothing wrong with that. JohnDoe may be trolling sometimes, but it's not hard to deal with him at all. There is a report button for a reason. I guarantee you that it works, because every moderator gets this highly noticeable indication at the top when something has been reported, and it doesn't get ignored. Also, a poll like this won't automatically make any decision for us at all. Anybody who votes is voting for nothing. Well said. JohnDoe wrote on Mon, 19 March 2007 19:06 Ban that jerk, he made me cry on my keyboard and now it's broken! lol Sniper_De7 wrote on Mon, 19 March 2007 21:35 The point whoever said it was trying ot make was that you can't use the reasoning "he's annoying, so ban him" because there are a lot of people are annoying, so if one person is annoying and gets banned for it, it would only be fair that every annoying person gets banned. There are a lot of annoying people here. Goztow wrote on Tue, 20 March 2007 02:01 I won't vote in this topic though, considering it's not a poll started by a moderator. You cannot start a poll if you are not a moderator, ie: a moderator added the poll to the thread, ie: a moderator inferred that this would be taken seriously, but strangly doesn't post to say who it is? my vote is Crimson? Voting to ban someone is retarded, mods are there to unbiased and ban people when they break the rules, not offer people up to the public vote ACK style. LOL, I have no idea why I felt the need to respond to so many people, I know JohnDoe doesn't give a shit anyway - i doubt he even voted no, lol.
I didn't add the poll. If I wanted a poll that I would take seriously, I would start my own thread for it. Maybe you all should stop giving him the attention he craves?
...or just lighten up
LMFAO THIS SHIT IS FUNNY. holy shit you guys are FLIPPING out. About to toss your PC's out the window? JohnDoe is more interesting than 97% of you.
ljbh if trooprm isn't banned then johndoe shouldn't be
MexPirate wrote on Tue, 20 March 2007 14:09 You cannot start a poll if you are not a moderator, ie: a moderator added the poll to the thread, ie: a moderator inferred that this would be taken seriously, but strangly doesn't post to say who it is? are my assumptions incorrect? I like having this guy around
JohnDoe wrote on Tue, 13 March 2007 12:33 My thread - my rules. Douchebags will have to perform their circle jerk elsewhere. That made me laugh, so he's not all bad.
Who cares, add him to your ignore list if he pisses you off
MexPirate wrote on Mon, 19 March 2007 18:55 I don't see the point of this, you want to start banning annoying people from this forum?? You are going to get a long list if you start offering polls on people who havn't broken forum rules. This was said when people wanted ACK banned too
JohnDoe, being a nerd is nothing to be ashamed of. I'm a nerd and I still have access to a vagina more than you ever will in your life. It's not all that bad, boy! =P
Venom Pawz wrote on Wed, 21 March 2007 23:34 JohnDoe, being a nerd is nothing to be ashamed of. I'm a nerd and I still have access to a vagina more than you ever will in your life. It's not all that bad, boy! =P Let me guess, your a girl ? Nah anyway, I dont really like johndoe because of his random rants :/
Indeed I am. PS: It's awesome that teal is listed in the colors. I normally have to type out the color tag each time on other forums. =/
when you got one attached to you all your life, i think you will have more access than any lad no matter how much he gets
Venom Pawz wrote on Thu, 22 March 2007 00:07 Indeed I am. PS: It's awesome that teal is listed in the colors. I normally have to type out the color tag each time on other forums. =/ Didnt even had to look in your profile Pretty neat colour indeed
Venom Pawz wrote on Wed, 21 March 2007 16:34 JohnDoe, being a nerd is nothing to be ashamed of. I'm a nerd and I still have access to a vagina more than you ever will in your life. It's not all that bad, boy! =P Jondoe has offically been OWNED!
gbull wrote on Thu, 22 March 2007 09:11 dorks > nerds Modders > 1337gods > Gamers > Geeks > Dorks > Nerds
Venom Pawz wrote on Wed, 21 March 2007 16:34 JohnDoe, being a nerd is nothing to be ashamed of. I'm a nerd and I still have access to a vagina more than you ever will in your life. It's not all that bad, boy! =P Weren't you molested as a child? I certainly wouldn't want to go anywhere near that vagina...lol @ Chrono asking his sheltered cyber gf for help after making a fool out of himself in that other thread...what a man.
JohnDoe wrote on Thu, 22 March 2007 09:39 Venom Pawz wrote on Wed, 21 March 2007 16:34 JohnDoe, being a nerd is nothing to be ashamed of. I'm a nerd and I still have access to a vagina more than you ever will in your life. It's not all that bad, boy! =P Weren't you molested as a child? I certainly wouldn't want to go anywhere near that vagina...lol @ Chrono asking his sheltered cyber gf for help after making a fool out of himself in that other thread...what a man. Why are you being such an asshat JohnDoe? Your logic is really disturbing, maybe you should seek mental help? You are even starting to get on my nerves now. Which is a bad thing.
One Winged Angel wrote on Thu, 22 March 2007 03:36 gbull wrote on Thu, 22 March 2007 09:11 dorks > nerds Modders > 1337gods > Gamers > Geeks > Dorks > Nerds Hey, I rank quite high! ;p
Programmers > Modders
One Winged Angel wrote on Thu, 22 March 2007 03:45 JohnDoe wrote on Thu, 22 March 2007 09:39 Venom Pawz wrote on Wed, 21 March 2007 16:34 JohnDoe, being a nerd is nothing to be ashamed of. I'm a nerd and I still have access to a vagina more than you ever will in your life. It's not all that bad, boy! =P Weren't you molested as a child? I certainly wouldn't want to go anywhere near that vagina...lol @ Chrono asking his sheltered cyber gf for help after making a fool out of himself in that other thread...what a man. Why are you being such an asshat JohnDoe? Your logic is really disturbing, maybe you should seek mental help? You are even starting to get on my nerves now. Which is a bad thing. Oh shit!!!!!!!!!!!
JohnDoe wrote on Thu, 22 March 2007 09:39 Weren't you molested as a child? I certainly wouldn't want to go anywhere near that vagina...lol @ Chrono asking his sheltered cyber gf for help after making a fool out of himself in that other thread...what a man. That effectively sums up why he should be banned.
JohnDoe wrote on Thu, 22 March 2007 04:39 Venom Pawz wrote on Wed, 21 March 2007 16:34 JohnDoe, being a nerd is nothing to be ashamed of. I'm a nerd and I still have access to a vagina more than you ever will in your life. It's not all that bad, boy! =P Weren't you molested as a child? I certainly wouldn't want to go anywhere near that vagina...lol @ Chrono asking his sheltered cyber gf for help after making a fool out of himself in that other thread...what a man. LMFAO... HAHAHAHA!
being a nerd is pretty much officially cool now I guess
Jonty wrote on Thu, 22 March 2007 15:56 JohnDoe wrote on Thu, 22 March 2007 09:39 Weren't you molested as a child? I certainly wouldn't want to go anywhere near that vagina...lol @ Chrono asking his sheltered cyber gf for help after making a fool out of himself in that other thread...what a man. That effectively sums up why he should be banned. Quoted For Truth
You're all giving him the attention he wants, just ignore him and he'll go away. It's simple.
Crimson wrote on Mon, 19 March 2007 20:43 JohnDoe has cobtinually verbally abused people and has already been banned for a month because of it. I don't know what Viking has supposedly done, but a ban on JohnDoe wouldn't be unjustified. Uh, what happened to this?
JohnDoe wrote on Thu, 22 March 2007 04:39 Venom Pawz wrote on Wed, 21 March 2007 16:34 JohnDoe, being a nerd is nothing to be ashamed of. I'm a nerd and I still have access to a vagina more than you ever will in your life. It's not all that bad, boy! =P Weren't you molested as a child? I certainly wouldn't want to go anywhere near that vagina...lol @ Chrono asking his sheltered cyber gf for help after making a fool out of himself in that other thread...what a man. What does me being exploited as a child have to do with the state of my vagina? And Chronojam didn't ask anything, I found this place after people were linking to it publicly and discussing it. Yes, you are now an internet super star like you've always wanted to be, cool eh? =P I'll ignore the potshots you threw in for your sake, since you don't know me personally and are just trying to insult me, although I honestly do want to know your reasoning for "Weren't you molested as a child? I certainly wouldn't want to go anywhere near that vagina...". Also, why are you a huge jerk on forums, but relatively nice to me on aim?
h3 th1nks he best it rene, bt rlly, its m3. HE h5s HUEG epen1s
Venom Pawz wrote on Fri, 23 March 2007 18:42 JohnDoe wrote on Thu, 22 March 2007 04:39 Venom Pawz wrote on Wed, 21 March 2007 16:34 JohnDoe, being a nerd is nothing to be ashamed of. I'm a nerd and I still have access to a vagina more than you ever will in your life. It's not all that bad, boy! =P Weren't you molested as a child? I certainly wouldn't want to go anywhere near that vagina...lol @ Chrono asking his sheltered cyber gf for help after making a fool out of himself in that other thread...what a man. What does me being exploited as a child have to do with the state of my vagina? And Chronojam didn't ask anything, I found this place after people were linking to it publicly and discussing it. Yes, you are now an internet super star like you've always wanted to be, cool eh? =P I'll ignore the potshots you threw in for your sake, since you don't know me personally and are just trying to insult me, although I honestly do want to know your reasoning for "Weren't you molested as a child? I certainly wouldn't want to go anywhere near that vagina...". Also, why are you a huge jerk on forums, but relatively nice to me on aim? 1. Ask Dr.Drew about your sexual issues...judging from the reactions, others here got the message. 2. You're quite naive for expecting another reaction, but maybe you're just masochistic? Wouldn't surprise me considering your backstory. 3. Trooper, it was really me who kicked your ass yesterday.
Yes, that was absolutely neccessary. I actually do enjoy reading johndoe's posts, as they are never directed at me
Improved.
You're killing Krayon's turtle.
Jerad Gray wrote on Sat, 24 March 2007 09:20 Improved. More like JPEG'd
JohnDoe, why do you think that pointing out that someone was victimized in an attempt to insult them is a good thing?
Anyone notice...hes worse then Troop? Sorry troop, but right now, your about 2% higher on my "who i like list" Making it a clean 3%. Ban him. I voted yes.
Venom Pawz wrote on Sat, 24 March 2007 23:08 JohnDoe, why do you think that pointing out that someone was victimized in an attempt to insult them is a good thing?
I feel this is semi relevant (well, half the posts in here aren't) Source - http://www.metro.co.uk/fame/article.html?in_article_id=42270&in_page_id=7 Quote: an emergency injunction was obtained in London's High Court this afternoon as ordered by Mr Justice Gray on behalf of Britney Spears to restrain the person or persons, known as 'John Doe', who has/have been leaking information about Ms Spears' time in a rehabilitation clinic from further disclosures invading her privacy. o0
Lmfao! How ironic! (Maybe its true at the same time...)
I don't think that's Irony, just a co-incidence.