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I am tired of playing a game, saying, "AWWW FUCK I HAD U BITCH!!1!1" or something and getting kicked for "No swearing in our server!" W T F If you are on the internet you already know most if not all cuss words, so I say FUCK YOU! To any server who kicks for that, I can see if you get out of hand with it but... Come on thats fucking stupid.
Re: Why do servers kick you for cuss words?
Play on n00bstories.
n00bstories is almost always full!!
Buy a reserved slot (with n00bdollars of course)
When I used to have a server, we didn't kick for swearing.. unless the guy kept repeating the same swear word to annoy us.
if you allow people to swear while playing Renegade there's a chance that young minds will be corrupted while they were--otherwise innocently--virtually killing each other
Personally I don't see the need to type out the curse words when I could just say them. Maybe some people get some kind of thrill out of it because their parents are around and don't like you cursing, but I just can't understand how typing out "bad words" can make someone feel any better. I'd rather just get on with the game.
Well you see, this is a game about grizzled global peacekeeping forces engaged in years of struggle with a centuries-old terrorist pseudo-religious organization bent not only on world domination but the elimination of socio-political enemies as well as democracy-supportive villagers (re: scene of Nod rounding up and torching peasants with a flame tank, operating torture-and-brainwashing camps for civilians and prisoners alike, etc)and the literal and figurative mutation of society and is rated only for older teenagers and above to be playing it, with online play as a focus, where they try to kill each other using not only bullets, but also flamethrowers, shards of sharp crystal, chemical weapon sprays, nuclear weaponry, and brutal run-downs with light-to-heavy vehicles and even helicopters. Obviously, in this scenario, there is NO PLACE FOR PROFANE LANGUAGE. It could corrupt the youth, and cause the elementary and middle-school aged children who are allowed to play by unresponsible parents to perhaps emulate this learned behavior and SWEAR UNDER SITUATIONS OF STRESS AND/OR EXCITEMENT. Entirely intolerable. We can't have profanity fucking up our youth's experience in such a game, obviously. And don't even THINK of suggesting players who dislike profanity should actually employ the built-in language filter; that's like asking them to take proactive responsibility for, and making a simple sacrifice (push butan recv filtr) towards acheiving their own desired gameplay experience instead of simply forcing their morals onto others. Seriously, grow up, and stop complaining. I don't want to hear you telling me how you "kicked Nod's asses" while I'm attempting to fire tiberium gel rounds all over this minimally armed technician who was recruited from his previous civilian occupation and is just in this position to earn some money for his kids who live in a third world country with poor opportunity for application of his technological skills outside of the state-owned telecom industry.
Couldn't have been said any better.
You know, if you just page the server and ask nicely, a mod will usually give you a reserved slot to get in the server when it's full. I say, if your parenting skills rely on some random server owner kicking people AFTER they say the tainted words, then you have more issues. I fucking like to fucking swear, and so long as you're not verbally attacking someone, then have a fucking ball.
Fun fact: At my high school, "swearing indirectly (ie. not at a person)" carried a stiffer penalty than swearing at faculty/staff or swearing at a student. Things could've changed in the years I've been gone, but it always amused me.
WOOOO LETS HAVE A FUCKING KICK ASS SHIT COVERD ORGIE!
Personally I think it's a bit silly to censor language in a game where you are committing MASS MURDER. Yeah, little billy can blow your brains out or run you over, but he better not say "damn" while he's doing it...even though you can hear that and worse on any network TV show these days, and we all know what "kids" hear at school and around their friends as well.
ironically those words only have power because people don't allow them
Because the admins and mods of the server just want an excuse to use the !kick command.
mrpirate wrote on Fri, 16 March 2007 19:07 Because the admins and mods of the server just want an excuse to use the !kick command. Quote For Truth.
We know drama!
Renx wrote on Fri, 16 March 2007 16:38 Buy a reserved slot (with n00bdollars of course) Or "buy" a permanent reserved slot (by donating real money). It's nice never having to wait to join a server.
OK! *donates $0.01¢* I want my reserved slot now please!
UNrules banned me for saying 2 cuss words. So I cussed there forums out and they banned me from there too. It was funny one time the day I got banned, we have a cheater in there who took control of a mod game banned people. They stop to ban me for swearing and than go to the person hijacking the name ;P.
Amazingly enough, some server-owners do not enjoy seeing cuss words on their screen and/or have children playing it.. I do know it sounds kinda wierd that they're killing people and complaining about it but when most people play video games they're not like "HEY IM GONNA KILL SO-N-SO".. They're like "HEY THATS THE BAD GUY!!11" and it doesn't really affect them. Some people believe that when children see "bad words", they might copy them. Also some people just don't cuss and don't like anything about it. Yeah, there IS cussing all over the place but their server is the place where they can enforce a rule of no cussing, and they have every right to, it is their server after all. Imo, you should either play on servers that allow cussing, or just don't cuss in chat while you're playing on that server. Seriously.. If there's a rule saying there's no cussing and you break it, they have a pretty good reason to kick you. Yeah, it might be a dumb rule, but it is their server. I think some servers have retarded rules but I'll follow their rules while I'm in that server.. If I don't and get kicked, its my fault. Personally, I don't give a shit. I just posted that because noone is answering why with a valid reason. :[ I'd let you guys swear in my server but unfortunately I don't own one and there isn't really a need for one lol
JESUS TITTYFUCKING CHRIST!!! They are controlling you're mind! Cuss words are fucking kick ass awesomeness! Shit, I see some bitche's and shoot um up the ass with a gun full of hot lead. I am gonna say "FUCKING DIE BIOTTTTTTTCCCCC!!!" if they don't like it they are fucking pussies.
... what makes cuss words any different from normal words..? I don't see anything awesome about them, they're just words.
[NE Fobby[GEN] wrote on Fri, 16 March 2007 20:02] mrpirate wrote on Fri, 16 March 2007 19:07 Because the admins and mods of the server just want an excuse to use the !kick command. Quote For Truth. You Quoted the wrong Person. lol
[quote title=Chronojam wrote on Fri, 16 March 2007 22:40]Fun fact: At my high school, "swearing indirectly (ie. not at a person)" carried a stiffer penalty than swearing at faculty/staff or swearing at a student. [quote] Try saying, "Sir, if I cannot speak, then can I say my thoughts out loud?" "Yes" says he. Your reply "Sir, you are still a bastard"...........hey it was only your thoughts.
c0vert7 wrote on Sat, 17 March 2007 04:46 UNrules banned me for saying 2 cuss words. So I cussed there forums out and they banned me from there too. Would you abide by the rules of any other server that you play on? A server owner pays for the server therefore has the right to make any rule. I feel they are then duly entitled to enforce any rule that they impose. If it's a no swearing rule then so be it. If players do not like the server rules then they are free to move to a server that suits them. But to return to the forum is demonstrating a little immaturity 2 cuss words would have got you a warning from IRC @ UN and not a ban. Tell the truth and folk will not laugh. However the mistake was to go back and cuss the forum. How does that make you feel? Why did you wish to return and cuss them? What were you hoping to achieve by your actions? How often do you do this on other servers when you do not agree with a single rule? ps. Do not take offence as I am also banned from the UN forum. Why? For always giving an alternative thought to any discussion even if I did not personally agree with the thought.
Quote: Why do servers kick you for cuss words? Because their rules state 'no swearing' and you do swear. It's like when their rules state 'no obelisk walking' and you oby walk. Or when it says 'no cheaing' and you cheat. Or when it says 'no wall jumping' and you start wall jumping. That's the only reply to your question. Now if you do not agree with the rules, then obviously it's not very smart to play there.
As much as I am against corruption of youth, I don't think a few swears will do that. I was 7 when I started swearing, by 10 I was swearing profusely. (I have since gotten it under control.) Movies and TV got me saying swears, and by the time I was on the internet regularly (round 12 or 13), it was no big deal. Swearing today is so common place that swears are barely bad words anymore, rather strong expressions of emotion or feeling towards something. I think if you REALLY wanted to corrupt the youth, show em porn. THAT will corrupt them.
Alex wrote on Sat, 17 March 2007 03:08 [NE Fobby[GEN] wrote on Fri, 16 March 2007 20:02] mrpirate wrote on Fri, 16 March 2007 19:07 Because the admins and mods of the server just want an excuse to use the !kick command. Quote For Truth. You Quoted the wrong Person. lol No I didn't... lol. Someone asked why admins kick for cusswords, and he answered "Because the admins and mods of the server just want an excuse to use the !kick command." Im agreeing with him, because it's true.
There have always been people who feel the need to play mommy and block naughty words. I suspect it has something to do with thier small penis, hurt/small ego and the need to be power trippy dip twats. I say fucking swear after you get shot in the face with a shotgun. Blazer has a very good point. It is ok to be shot in the face with a shot gun but not ok to say FUCK after it? That makes it even more lame.
luv2pb wrote on Sat, 17 March 2007 12:36 There have always been people who feel the need to play mommy and block naughty words. I suspect it has something to do with thier small penis, hurt/small ego and the need to be power trippy dip twats. I say fucking swear after you get shot in the face with a shotgun. Blazer has a very good point. It is ok to be shot in the face with a shot gun but not ok to say FUCK after it? That makes it even more lame. What, you lost me?
First off, I was banned, so I asked on there forums with something along the lines of "Why the fuck was I banned for saying 2 fucking swear words" I like my cuss words. They even banned corpgus for having the setjoin !set my stallion free (stallion = another player) they also banned stallion I think it was for having the setjoin f0rking forkers or something like that. P.S when I first went there I didnt know about the rule, so they warned me. Right after I get warned I was kicked. So I came back in to say why the fuck was I kicked after you already warned me. And asked how it was a warning so I got banned.
Just so we're clear, server owners are free to set whatever rules they like. The discussion here is whether or not they should have that rule. But only they can change their minds. No one can force them to allow people to swear. I will defend to the death a server owner's right to have whatever rules he likes. I just don't have to agree with them. I don't play on servers whose rules I do not like.
Do you really feel that you have to swear everytime someone owns you? Cant you try to act human and not a fucking n00b all the time and swear every other word.
IWarriors wrote on Sat, 17 March 2007 21:25 Do you really feel that you have to swear everytime someone owns you? Cant you try to act human and not a fucking n00b all the time and swear every other word. Nope, can not do. @Crimson: Yah this is about how gay the rule is not that they shouldent be allowed to do it.
We recently experimented with our language filter. The results: 1. Kick on bad language causes people to complain the server is too strict, but leads to less heated arguments 2. No language filter causes less complaints but more heated arguments 3. Warn for language (3rd warn = kick) acts as a decent way to stop people swearing without having as many "too strict" complaints End result we've stuck with warn for language and it seems to work well.
There are degrees of 'swearing' most places don't care of you swear in general but when the player uses fuck and shit with every word they type then that is just being childish There are words that I will not allow, fag and * mean mean black person * being the 2 main ones because that is not swearing, they are direct insults Edit Swear filter pwn *
IWarriors wrote on Sat, 17 March 2007 22:25 Do you really feel that you have to swear everytime someone owns you? Cant you try to act human and not a fucking n00b all the time and swear every other word. you're a "n00b" if you swear? Oh jeez.. I don't know where I went wrong
Simple some people find it offensive (regardless of their age) and will not continue playing on the server. Also sometimes it gets to the point of spamming.
Spamming swears on a server is worth a warning, but merely saying it shouldn't be punishable. It's a violent game... if the words effect you personally, then you shouldn't be playing Renegade.
ya, usually the rule is, for servers like those you might aswell: 1)dont bother 2)tell the admin to fuck off and get banned either or is fine
trooprm02 wrote on Sun, 18 March 2007 20:54 ya, usually the rule is, for servers like those you might aswell: 1)dont bother 2)tell the admin to fuck off and get banned either or is fine I'm happy this comes from you...
[NE Fobby[GEN] wrote on Sun, 18 March 2007 13:21]Spamming swears on a server is worth a warning, but merely saying it shouldn't be punishable. It's a violent game... if the words effect you personally, then you shouldn't be playing Renegade. = fewer players if that is what you wish.
If you can't handle a fuck you n00b every now and then you shouldn't be playing a game that you kill people in. If your a server owner and you can't see that then you shouldn't be a server owner. Also, if the word fuck does offend you then you need to come out from under your rock and get something serious to worry about.
Simple solution to playing where they'll kick you for swearing. DON'T SWEAR. It's just that simple.
luv2pb wrote on Mon, 19 March 2007 11:22 If you can't handle a fuck you n00b every now and then you shouldn't be playing a game that you kill people in. If your a server owner and you can't see that then you shouldn't be a server owner. Also, if the word fuck does offend you then you need to come out from under your rock and get something serious to worry about. It is the server owner's choice, if they what to kick you from the game because you can't control your language its their choice.
IronBalls wrote on Mon, 19 March 2007 14:04 I never swear during games...too busy with virtual killing. He has a pretty good point there.
I could probably type an essay before most of the people on a team gets to a thousand points
if a guys says a cuss to u like go fuck a whore or fuck urself noob its not horrible, it can be annoying but i would not think it would be annoying enough to kick someone unless they say it like every 5 seconds.
Jerad Gray wrote on Mon, 19 March 2007 12:51 luv2pb wrote on Mon, 19 March 2007 11:22 If you can't handle a fuck you n00b every now and then you shouldn't be playing a game that you kill people in. If your a server owner and you can't see that then you shouldn't be a server owner. Also, if the word fuck does offend you then you need to come out from under your rock and get something serious to worry about. It is the server owner's choice, if they what to kick you from the game because you can't control your language its their choice. I never said it wasn't. What I was trying to say was the stupidity of that choice.
luv2pb wrote on Mon, 19 March 2007 19:43 Jerad Gray wrote on Mon, 19 March 2007 12:51 luv2pb wrote on Mon, 19 March 2007 11:22 If you can't handle a fuck you n00b every now and then you shouldn't be playing a game that you kill people in. If your a server owner and you can't see that then you shouldn't be a server owner. Also, if the word fuck does offend you then you need to come out from under your rock and get something serious to worry about. It is the server owner's choice, if they what to kick you from the game because you can't control your language its their choice. I never said it wasn't. What I was trying to say was the stupidity of that choice. I don't know, if someone was continually cursing and it annoyed me and I was a server owner I would kick them.
Viking wrote on Fri, 16 March 2007 16:02 I am tired of playing a game, saying, "AWWW FUCK I HAD U BITCH!!1!1" or something and getting kicked for "No swearing in our server!" W T F If you are on the internet you already know most if not all cuss words, so I say FUCK YOU! To any server who kicks for that, I can see if you get out of hand with it but... Come on thats fucking stupid. We don't like swearing in our server due to the wide age range of people that play in it. If you feel the need to fill the world with your words then do so verbally at home but don't blather it out infront of everyone. If you want to chat you can actually talk, there is no need to start cursing and swearing your face off for no reason. It is a bad habit and something not worth your time. I use warnings on our server and it is a fair system. 3 warnings and you earn yourself a qkick. Keep it up and it will kick or even ban you. You also get a warning forgiven every four hours so everyday is almost a new day.
Creed3020 wrote on Tue, 20 March 2007 08:41 Viking wrote on Fri, 16 March 2007 16:02 I am tired of playing a game, saying, "AWWW FUCK I HAD U BITCH!!1!1" or something and getting kicked for "No swearing in our server!" W T F If you are on the internet you already know most if not all cuss words, so I say FUCK YOU! To any server who kicks for that, I can see if you get out of hand with it but... Come on thats fucking stupid. We don't like swearing in our server due to the wide age range of people that play in it. So in your server do you prevent mass murder as well? Are your players not allowed to shoot at each other or blow things up? Do they have to keep that at home as well? To say swearing is bad but violance is ok is fucking retarded.
The nerve of some people... I'm trying to demolish buildings and mass slaughter my sworn enemies and someone dares to fill up my screen with CURSE WORDS. We don't let people get out of hand with verbal abuse or anything... we just don't shit ourselves when someone wants to sprinkle their conversation with fucking swear words.
Imitation violence and real-life swearing are two completely different levels. (I would agree if it were comparing real-life violence and real-life swearing) One is imitation, not to mention the whole point behind playing the game in the first place. You purchase the game knowing the violence will occur. I, for one, applaud those servers who take a stand against it. There is nothing wrong with allowing people to swear (I help administer N00bstories, and they allow it), but to complain because servers disallow it is, well, retarded in itself. Say to yourself "Oh no! They won't let me swear!" and see how irrelevant it actually is. Simply put, if you're not allowed to swear, then don't. It won't kill you to stay silent or change what you would say. Or, don't play there if being unable to swear is going to ruin your experience like that.
I think the point was already brought up that we know that server owners can do what the fuck they like. Think the point of this thread, if it has one, is to know why it would make sense to disallow swearing if the supposed reason for it is because of younger children who are exposed to the violence this game presents. I don't know. Maybe parents think that if they tell children that it's important not to swear, that it's ok not to teach kids the difference between reality and real life
I have no problem respecting someone's rules but I'm just horrible at watching my fucking mouth. I work in an office with adults and we all swear. I live at home with two adult guys and we swear. I am very rarely around children so I don't give a shit what words I say almost all of the time. Pretty much every time I'm on a moderated server, I get warned or kicked. Another problem is, where's the fucking line? Is "ass" allowed? Is "hell" allowed" Is "damn" allowed? These are generally considered "less" bad than words like "fuck" and "shit". Then there are other words that are even more questionable like "gay" and "fag". I stay away from those servers because I don't have time to fucking check every word I fucking type to make sure I didn't say something that might get me a warning.
I used to play in UN and they allowed me to say at least Damn, Hell, and Ass. As long as it wasn't in spite I think. I didn't really push the envelope with it either. I prefer other words to swear words most of the time.
luv2pb wrote on Tue, 20 March 2007 12:15 So in your server do you prevent mass murder as well? Are your players not allowed to shoot at each other or blow things up? Do they have to keep that at home as well? To say swearing is bad but violance is ok is fucking retarded. You don't need to be so cynical you know. Just adding my two cents to the dicussion. Of course we don't: -Prevent Mass Murder -People shooting at each other -People blowing things up The kind of ridiculus language inflitrating people's minds these days can just stay out of the server that's all. We are just trying to cut down on people going off into the extreme. We don't add every word we can think of to the list. I admit it is not easy to decide which words you should add to the list but we only put the most obvious, slanderous ones.
I'm around people who swear all the time. It doesn't mean I have to do it. With the exception of hearing a word for the first time and asking what it meant, I have never sworn. Quote: Is "ass" allowed? Is "hell" allowed" Is "damn" allowed? Just to answer for the sake of answering, if it were up to me, no. I consider those to be "swear words" as well. Unless it's used as a proper noun, there would be no reason to say it. (ie. When talking about Heaven and Hell, it's a proper noun, and no real way around it.)
Creed3020 wrote on Wed, 21 March 2007 09:25 luv2pb wrote on Tue, 20 March 2007 12:15 So in your server do you prevent mass murder as well? Are your players not allowed to shoot at each other or blow things up? Do they have to keep that at home as well? To say swearing is bad but violance is ok is fucking retarded. You don't need to be so cynical you know. Just adding my two cents to the dicussion. Of course we don't: -Prevent Mass Murder -People shooting at each other -People blowing things up The kind of ridiculus language inflitrating people's minds these days can just stay out of the server that's all. We are just trying to cut down on people going off into the extreme. We don't add every word we can think of to the list. I admit it is not easy to decide which words you should add to the list but we only put the most obvious, slanderous ones. does anyone even play on the EoE server anymore? it's almost always empty.
mrpirate wrote on Wed, 21 March 2007 09:18 does anyone even play on the EoE server anymore? it's almost always empty. Well if its ALMOST always empty I would say some people still play on it.
We have our players that play with us regularly when we get it rolling, and I don't mean clan members. We obviously are not the most prolific server but we don't really care for it.