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Who questions the US laws against marijuana? Whether in the US or another country, should it be illegal? I just want to see what you guys think of this issue.
They can't make their damn mind up in the UK, it's a joke - we get some really good strong weed over here and loads of people smoke it, they keep upgrading and downgrading its classification from almost legal, to serious punishments for dealing. It should be legal no doubt, it's no worse than alcohol for sure and as such should have similar regulations implied on it, no smoking in public apart from licenced areas etc, Holland has the right idea, it should be a personal choice if people want to have a few joints to chill out and relax.
That's exactly how I feel. It's a natural herb that is used to intentionally alter your mind. In many ways its better for you than alchohol and in many ways it would be absolutely no issue if properly regulated. I think it should be legalized, but regulated: such as 21+ to purchase, no underage dealing/selling, restrictions on where you can do it, and restrictions on re-sale/quality/distribution.
Personaly I don't smoke it, But Iv'e seen kids aged about 10? 11? Smoke this stuff day after day.. I don't mind people smoking it, Aslong as they keep it away from me and my house, i'm cool with it.. Were I live weed is huge..everyone smokes it, But meh.. As mexican said, Our government can't make there mind up, lol
If it was made available, the government would tax the shit out of it.
Those cigarette taxes really do get annoying. Thank God I'm quitting (again).
Weed by itself is much more safe then beer however, when you mix it with ciggys (like most people do) it then becomes alot more bad for you because of the crap in the tobacco. If the government over here made it legal, yes it would get taxed like hell and since its very easy to get weed now 'n' days the government would lose alot of money. So therefore it becomes illegal again, and the process starts over again. I use to smoke it everyday untill I realized how much money I was actually spending on it per week. It was crazy amount. I thought my tabacco habbit was expensive.
If you need drugs to get high and relax, then there is something really fucked up with you. I and many others can enjoy myself without having to take any shit. As always, drugs are for losers, whatever the effect it has on the body. Only time you should be taking drugs is when you got a medical problem. But anyhow, for the ones who do take, hurry up and overdose already, dont need selfish people that in this world. -_-
IWarriors wrote on Fri, 12 January 2007 21:46 If you need drugs to get high and relax, then there is something really fucked up with you. I and many others can enjoy myself without having to take any shit. As always, drugs are for losers, whatever the effect it has on the body. Only time you should be taking drugs is when you got a medical problem. But anyhow, for the ones who do take, hurry up and overdose already, dont need selfish people that in this world. -_- "Yes it should be illegal -- but I shall give no reason." Just say that. We don't want to hear, nor do we care about your patronization.
Why get high of weed if you can get high of gaming all day?
Why not do both?
IWarriors wrote on Fri, 12 January 2007 21:46 If you need drugs to get high and relax, then there is something really fucked up with you. I and many others can enjoy myself without having to take any shit. As always, drugs are for losers, whatever the effect it has on the body. Only time you should be taking drugs is when you got a medical problem. But anyhow, for the ones who do take, hurry up and overdose already, dont need selfish people that in this world. -_- Do you support the prohibition of alcohol as well? Also, there's quite a few interesting studies that show that Marijuana is much less harmful to the body than we thought. (link) And just so you know, you can't overdose on Marijuana. Alcohol, on the other hand...
IWarriors wrote on Fri, 12 January 2007 20:46 If you need drugs to get high and relax, then there is something really fucked up with you. I and many others can enjoy myself without having to take any shit. As always, drugs are for losers, whatever the effect it has on the body. Only time you should be taking drugs is when you got a medical problem. But anyhow, for the ones who do take, hurry up and overdose already, dont need selfish people that in this world. -_- Do you drink? Do you get tipsy or drunk ever? Why do you need to be? Isn’t that just the same thing as what you’re saying? Replace your whole post with beer. Let’s try it. Quote: If you need beer to get high and relax, then there is something really fucked up with you. I and many others can enjoy myself without having to take any shit. As always, beer are for losers, whatever the effect it has on the body. But anyhow, for the ones who do take, hurry up and kill someone drunk driving already, dont need selfish people that in this world. Personally I don't do drugs. Now if you don’t drink and you agree with what I’m saying, then sorry for the accusation. If you do drink then stop being a hypocrite.
z310 wrote on Fri, 12 January 2007 21:38 Darkknight... :thumbsdown: awww im hurt Personally I think you should legalize the shit.
*passes a new bill.* >:P
z310 wrote on Fri, 12 January 2007 22:38 Darkknight... :thumbsdown: There's nothing wrong with people choosing not to do drugs. I do so responsibly and it's fine, but I can certainly understand why some people don't want to take the legal risk.
taxes on it really wouldn't be a problem and you could guarantee the quality of the weed as well as having a decent choice of strains - I pay £20 for an 8th or 3.5g about 90% of that will be profit to various dealers, the government wouldn'y charge that much by a mile and all the additional funding would support huge amounts of additional funding for the nhs, advice and support for users and regulating the sales of it, with a fair chunk left for the government to piss up the wall on nothing. A note in a different direction here, the tax on british cigarettes is enough to pay for the ENTIRE nhs bill four times over, so don't moan at smokers when they need to use it's services.
I agree. That's not what the thumbsdown was toward. I just didn't care for his post at all.
z310 wrote on Fri, 12 January 2007 22:44 I agree. That's not what the thumbsdown was toward. I just didn't care for his post at all. :thumbsdown:
MexPirate wrote on Fri, 12 January 2007 22:48 z310 wrote on Fri, 12 January 2007 22:44 I agree. That's not what the thumbsdown was toward. I just didn't care for his post at all. :thumbsdown: Well he reiterated Ty's idea, just assumed the guy drinks, and phrased what he wrote to show the guy's suspected hypocrisy in a horrible way. I know there was no reason to attack him, and I don't really know why I did. I'm sorry. I guess I'm just a little too tired. ^_^
z310 wrote on Fri, 12 January 2007 21:44 I agree. That's not what the thumbsdown was toward. I just didn't care for his post at all. yes cause you think i copied the other one. look at the time dude. we replied at exactly the same time with the same thoughts well i did say sorry if the guy doesnt drink.
But you still assumed. Anyways...sorry. Get back on topic.
z310 wrote on Fri, 12 January 2007 23:08 But you still assumed. Anyways...sorry. Get back on topic. tis true i did assume and thats wrong but still the point is if you drink but say drugs are bad then your a hypocrite. thats all i was trying to say.
No one can really stop under age drinking, smoking, etc. There are always going to be loop holes in buying these things.
z310 wrote on Fri, 12 January 2007 21:16 IWarriors wrote on Fri, 12 January 2007 21:46 If you need drugs to get high and relax, then there is something really fucked up with you. I and many others can enjoy myself without having to take any shit. As always, drugs are for losers, whatever the effect it has on the body. Only time you should be taking drugs is when you got a medical problem. But anyhow, for the ones who do take, hurry up and overdose already, dont need selfish people that in this world. -_- "Yes it should be illegal -- but I shall give no reason." Just say that. We don't want to hear, nor do we care about your patronization. If you dont want to hear or care then shut the fuck up. Its a public forum and we are allowed to state our opinion. Tough shit if its not what you want to hear. No matter what, its an illegal substance, abide by the law or face the consequences. Until its made legal, do as IWarrior says, overdose on it and save the Judicial system a fortune. Some of you WILL move onto harder drugs for a better kick. So start worrying now. Possible jail time later!! Die early and save me a fortune.
mrpirate wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 01:52 let's all overdose on marijuana you got yourbody wieghts worth? And either way, youd green out and pass out anyways.
SeargentSarg wrote on Fri, 12 January 2007 22:51 No one can really stop under age drinking, smoking, etc. There are always going to be loop holes in buying these things. Oh damn right. If there's a will there's a way.
Long term toking will cause you health problems
Funny this came up... I just had to give a speech to my poker players tonight because I've heard that some of them are doing marijuana outside my house at breaktime. I basically told them that I don't know what I ever said or did to imply that it was OK to bring illegal drugs anywhere near my house. I also drink only once or twice a year and never to drunkenness, so don't call me a hypocrite. I think people who _need_ to get high or drunk to have a good time are pathetic. I swear some people think that a party without drinking can't be fun. Lame, lame, lame.
It's not cause cigarettes and alcohol (both hard drugs) are legal that soft drugs should be. It rather raises questions about cigarettes and alcohol. Too bad no government has the balls to limit their use big time. Well, the French government did raise the price of cigarettes a lot in a short period and it did have a good effect. Unlike the Belgian government which raises with cents just to avoid regular income flowing away. I work in health sector and I can tell one thing: dying of tobacco isn't pretty at all.
Goztow wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 05:17 It's not cause cigarettes and alcohol (both hard drugs) are legal that soft drugs should be. It rather raises questions about cigarettes and alcohol. Too bad no government has the balls to limit their use big time. Well, the French government did raise the price of cigarettes a lot in a short period and it did have a good effect. Unlike the Belgian government which raises with cents just to avoid regular income flowing away. I work in health sector and I can tell one thing: dying of tobacco isn't pretty at all. They are imposing massive anti smoking bans in virtually all public areas accross the world, America has been hit by this along with ireland and the UK will be following suit, think some areas of europe have also implemented things like this. Crimson wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 03:37 Funny this came up... I just had to give a speech to my poker players tonight because I've heard that some of them are doing marijuana outside my house at breaktime. I basically told them that I don't know what I ever said or did to imply that it was OK to bring illegal drugs anywhere near my house. I also drink only once or twice a year and never to drunkenness, so don't call me a hypocrite. I think people who _need_ to get high or drunk to have a good time are pathetic. I swear some people think that a party without drinking can't be fun. Lame, lame, lame. I play a lot of poker, for us smoking is half of it everyone I know that plays poker also smokes weed, it's where I usually pick up at games. Smoking and poker have gone together since the old western movies. Many people feel it improves their game.
Crimson wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 03:37 Funny this came up... I just had to give a speech to my poker players tonight because I've heard that some of them are doing marijuana outside my house at breaktime. I basically told them that I don't know what I ever said or did to imply that it was OK to bring illegal drugs anywhere near my house. I also drink only once or twice a year and never to drunkenness, so don't call me a hypocrite. I think people who _need_ to get high or drunk to have a good time are pathetic. I swear some people think that a party without drinking can't be fun. Lame, lame, lame. You’re not a hypocrite cause you don’t drink and get drunk. Some go out every weekend and get plastered but then criticize those who do drugs. I drink occasionally. I used to drink a lot but got alcohol poisoning. I’m very selective now on what I’ll drink and only every now and then. I just don’t like people who say drugs are bad but have other vices just as bad or worse.
Crimson wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 03:37 Funny this came up... I just had to give a speech to my poker players tonight because I've heard that some of them are doing marijuana outside my house at breaktime. I basically told them that I don't know what I ever said or did to imply that it was OK to bring illegal drugs anywhere near my house. I also drink only once or twice a year and never to drunkenness, so don't call me a hypocrite. I think people who _need_ to get high or drunk to have a good time are pathetic. I swear some people think that a party without drinking can't be fun. Lame, lame, lame. Have to agree with this, I dont drink much myself. But there is a big difference between alcohol and drugs, one is socialy acceptable and the other is not, also alcohol can be good for you if you dont over do it, like one glass of red wine is good for your heart. Alcohol is used for medical reasons, for cleasing wounds, back before pain killers, doctors used to give it to the people they work on to numb the pain. Further back you go, alcohol was the only other drink other then water in some civilizations and communitys and everyone had it, from babys, kids and to adults. Alcohol is only bad if you overdo it, like everything elas if you overdrink or overeat something, you can harm yourself, you can even kill yourself on water if you drink enough of it in one day, I believe I read it takes 160 pint size glasses to do that.
puddle_splasher wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 01:46 If you dont want to hear or care then shut the fuck up. Its a public forum and we are allowed to state our opinion. He is allowed to say that -- just as much as I'm allowed convey my opinion of what he should of said.
Could people who are for or against it please elaborate to their fullest extent?
I will still stick with my beer, twice a week, after work. Never have I had any inclination to try any drugs. Seeing the effects on my mates was enough to stop anyone. Yes! They thought they could control it, how wrong they were. Smoking! Never touched cigarettes either. My parents both smoked and my Mother died of lung cancer. Yes it was tobacco related. We all think we know our limitations. Little do we really know.
i think people should be able to make their own choices.
IWarriors wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 13:47 Crimson wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 03:37 Funny this came up... I just had to give a speech to my poker players tonight because I've heard that some of them are doing marijuana outside my house at breaktime. I basically told them that I don't know what I ever said or did to imply that it was OK to bring illegal drugs anywhere near my house. I also drink only once or twice a year and never to drunkenness, so don't call me a hypocrite. I think people who _need_ to get high or drunk to have a good time are pathetic. I swear some people think that a party without drinking can't be fun. Lame, lame, lame. Have to agree with this, I dont drink much myself. But there is a big difference between alcohol and drugs, one is socialy acceptable and the other is not, also alcohol can be good for you if you dont over do it, like one glass of red wine is good for your heart. Alcohol is used for medical reasons, for cleasing wounds, back before pain killers, doctors used to give it to the people they work on to numb the pain. Further back you go, alcohol was the only other drink other then water in some civilizations and communitys and everyone had it, from babys, kids and to adults. Alcohol is only bad if you overdo it, like everything elas if you overdrink or overeat something, you can harm yourself, you can even kill yourself on water if you drink enough of it in one day, I believe I read it takes 160 pint size glasses to do that. Since when is everything that's "socially acceptable" the better choice? It wasn't "socially acceptable" to shelter blacks along the underground highway. It wasn't "socially acceptable" for women to work. It isn't "socially acceptable" for homosexuals to be who they are. Society doesn't always get everything right... I'm sure you've heard of "medicinal marijuana". I'm pretty sure the word "medicinal" implies that it IS used in the medical field. I'm too lazy to research, but I'm sure xptek will fill you in on the medicinal advantages of marijuana. The only reason why they drank alcohol because it was more sanitary than water. As it's been proven and said more than once, you cannot overdose on marijuana... No, I don't smoke pot, and I don't promote the usage of drugs. I just think that it's always a good idea to be informed with reliable information instead of being fed Propaganda Pie.
The #1 thing I hate about my mom: She only cares about social acceptance.
In my experience alcohol leads to far worse behaviour than weed does. I can't remember the last time I got high and put a hole in the wall.
j_ball430 wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 13:59 IWarriors wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 13:47 Crimson wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 03:37 Funny this came up... I just had to give a speech to my poker players tonight because I've heard that some of them are doing marijuana outside my house at breaktime. I basically told them that I don't know what I ever said or did to imply that it was OK to bring illegal drugs anywhere near my house. I also drink only once or twice a year and never to drunkenness, so don't call me a hypocrite. I think people who _need_ to get high or drunk to have a good time are pathetic. I swear some people think that a party without drinking can't be fun. Lame, lame, lame. Have to agree with this, I dont drink much myself. But there is a big difference between alcohol and drugs, one is socialy acceptable and the other is not, also alcohol can be good for you if you dont over do it, like one glass of red wine is good for your heart. Alcohol is used for medical reasons, for cleasing wounds, back before pain killers, doctors used to give it to the people they work on to numb the pain. Further back you go, alcohol was the only other drink other then water in some civilizations and communitys and everyone had it, from babys, kids and to adults. Alcohol is only bad if you overdo it, like everything elas if you overdrink or overeat something, you can harm yourself, you can even kill yourself on water if you drink enough of it in one day, I believe I read it takes 160 pint size glasses to do that. Since when is everything that's "socially acceptable" the better choice? It wasn't "socially acceptable" to shelter blacks along the underground highway. It wasn't "socially acceptable" for women to work. It isn't "socially acceptable" for homosexuals to be who they are. Society doesn't always get everything right... I'm sure you've heard of "medicinal marijuana". I'm pretty sure the word "medicinal" implies that it IS used in the medical field. I'm too lazy to research, but I'm sure xptek will fill you in on the medicinal advantages of marijuana. The only reason why they drank alcohol because it was more sanitary than water. As it's been proven and said more than once, you cannot overdose on marijuana... No, I don't smoke pot, and I don't promote the usage of drugs. I just think that it's always a good idea to be informed with reliable information instead of being fed Propaganda Pie. sufferers of Multiple Sclerosis use cannibis purely for medicinal purposes to ease immense pain. The people who grow the cannibis for them and turn it in to cannibis cream or chocolate risk being convicted of dealing, despite giving the cannibis away to people genuinly in need of it. Check here for more info on thc4ms: http://www.thc4ms.org.uk/ Watch the documentary if you have time, it's pretty interesting viewing
Crimson wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 03:37 Funny this came up... I just had to give a speech to my poker players tonight because I've heard that some of them are doing marijuana outside my house at breaktime. I basically told them that I don't know what I ever said or did to imply that it was OK to bring illegal drugs anywhere near my house. I also drink only once or twice a year and never to drunkenness, so don't call me a hypocrite. I think people who _need_ to get high or drunk to have a good time are pathetic. I swear some people think that a party without drinking can't be fun. Lame, lame, lame. Good idea. Marijuana laws in Arizona are very strict and unnecessary. (linkage) IWarriors wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 13:47 Further back you go, alcohol was the only other drink other then water in some civilizations and communitys and everyone had it, from babys, kids and to adults. I'd like to point out that this was also the case with Marijuana, and that it also has a lot of documented medical use. Personally, I'd rather smoke than fill my body with a socially acceptable toxin. (I don't drink, BTW).
MexPirate wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 14:43 j_ball430 wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 13:59 IWarriors wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 13:47 Crimson wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 03:37 Funny this came up... I just had to give a speech to my poker players tonight because I've heard that some of them are doing marijuana outside my house at breaktime. I basically told them that I don't know what I ever said or did to imply that it was OK to bring illegal drugs anywhere near my house. I also drink only once or twice a year and never to drunkenness, so don't call me a hypocrite. I think people who _need_ to get high or drunk to have a good time are pathetic. I swear some people think that a party without drinking can't be fun. Lame, lame, lame. Have to agree with this, I dont drink much myself. But there is a big difference between alcohol and drugs, one is socialy acceptable and the other is not, also alcohol can be good for you if you dont over do it, like one glass of red wine is good for your heart. Alcohol is used for medical reasons, for cleasing wounds, back before pain killers, doctors used to give it to the people they work on to numb the pain. Further back you go, alcohol was the only other drink other then water in some civilizations and communitys and everyone had it, from babys, kids and to adults. Alcohol is only bad if you overdo it, like everything elas if you overdrink or overeat something, you can harm yourself, you can even kill yourself on water if you drink enough of it in one day, I believe I read it takes 160 pint size glasses to do that. Since when is everything that's "socially acceptable" the better choice? It wasn't "socially acceptable" to shelter blacks along the underground highway. It wasn't "socially acceptable" for women to work. It isn't "socially acceptable" for homosexuals to be who they are. Society doesn't always get everything right... I'm sure you've heard of "medicinal marijuana". I'm pretty sure the word "medicinal" implies that it IS used in the medical field. I'm too lazy to research, but I'm sure xptek will fill you in on the medicinal advantages of marijuana. The only reason why they drank alcohol because it was more sanitary than water. As it's been proven and said more than once, you cannot overdose on marijuana... No, I don't smoke pot, and I don't promote the usage of drugs. I just think that it's always a good idea to be informed with reliable information instead of being fed Propaganda Pie. sufferers of Multiple Sclerosis use cannibis purely for medicinal purposes to ease immense pain. The people who grow the cannibis for them and turn it in to cannibis cream or chocolate risk being convicted of dealing, despite giving the cannibis away to people genuinly in need of it. Check here for more info on thc4ms: http://www.thc4ms.org.uk/ Watch the documentary if you have time, it's pretty interesting viewing Thats true which is fine, as its fine as its for medical reasons.
Why shouldn't recreational use of marijuana be legal, IWarriors?
z310 wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 15:18 Why shouldn't recreational use of marijuana be legal, IWarriors? Already said.
IWarriors wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 18:42 z310 wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 15:18 Why shouldn't recreational use of marijuana be legal, IWarriors? Already said. No, you provided a few insightful statements like "they should hurry up and overdose already," but you still have yet to tell us why you think any government has the right to tell you what you can't/can put in your body.
lol Not really, IWarriors. You're saying the drug should be illegal because most people won't have reason enough to use it - but that's idiotic when you defend alcohol. Most people will have the same reason to blaze to drink, recreation. They both have health plus and minuses too, so don't say: "But alcohol can be good for you and weed can't." Many drugs that are legal because they pose no or little enough threat to society, like caffeine, alcohol, and tobacco. Sometimes those drugs need to be regulated to belittle the threat they create to under-weigh society's needs. The government doesn't straight-out ban them because they don't need to, and doing so anyways would take away rights most of society feels they should have. They don't want a revolution. Research marijuana and you'll find that it should be one of those drugs. In my opinion, alcohol is worse than it.
tobbaco isn't a drug. i know someone from school that takes pot because he says it makes his music sounds better, he said there was no way of describing it. hes not all like "OMG I TAKE WEED IM SO COOL".
Tobacco is too a drug... Wikipedia A drug is any biological substance, synthetic or non-synthetic, that is taken for non-dietary needs. It is usually synthesized outside of an organism, but introduced into an organism to produce its action. That is, when taken into the organisms body, it will produce some effects or alter some bodily functions (such as relieving symptoms, curing diseases or used as preventive medicine or any other purposes). Tobacco relaxes you as well as act like an appetite suppressant. It's a drug.
z310 wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 20:04 Many drugs that are legal because they pose no or little enough threat to society, like caffeine, alcohol, and tobacco. Sometimes those drugs need to be regulated to belittle the threat they create to under-weigh society's needs. The government doesn't straight-out ban them because they don't need to, and doing so anyways would take away rights most of society feels they should have. They don't want a revolution. minus "that".
j_ball430 wrote on Sun, 14 January 2007 01:48 Tobacco is too a drug... Wikipedia A drug is any biological substance, synthetic or non-synthetic, that is taken for non-dietary needs. It is usually synthesized outside of an organism, but introduced into an organism to produce its action. That is, when taken into the organisms body, it will produce some effects or alter some bodily functions (such as relieving symptoms, curing diseases or used as preventive medicine or any other purposes). Tobacco relaxes you as well as act like an appetite suppressant. It's a drug. bah, our school teachers always said that it isn't, it is the nicotine. again, it is the nicotine that "relaxes" although in actuall fact it causes you to be unrelaxed.
gamemodding wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 19:35 tobbaco isn't a drug. i know someone from school that takes pot because he says it makes his music sounds better, he said there was no way of describing it. hes not all like "OMG I TAKE WEED IM SO COOL". I remember a few years back someone was trying to ban all songs from that radio of bands who did drugs. I was like my God!!. There goes my rock music.
j_ball430 wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 19:48 Tobacco is too a drug... Wikipedia A drug is any biological substance, synthetic or non-synthetic, that is taken for non-dietary needs. It is usually synthesized outside of an organism, but introduced into an organism to produce its action. That is, when taken into the organisms body, it will produce some effects or alter some bodily functions (such as relieving symptoms, curing diseases or used as preventive medicine or any other purposes). Tobacco relaxes you as well as act like an appetite suppressant. It's a drug. If you're addicted to tobacco, Then yes, when you're stressed out, It feels like a smoke can relax you. If you don't smoke and your stressed out, and have a cig, You will most probably caugh your lungs out then feel any more relaxed. a cigarette has 100's of chemicals that kill you than relax you. lol tobacco is from the plant so it could relax you, not exactly sure on that one.
z310 wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 12:51 Could people who are for or against it please elaborate to their fullest extent? This is one of the reasons i say make it legal. Anyone remember what prohibition did to our crime rate and then what happen once lifted. This article just shows what happened after prohibition was inacted. http://library.thinkquest.org/04oct/00492/Crime_Rate.htm
it only relaxes you because you are stressed because of witdrawal symptoms. from the very first ciggy, your body wants more nicotine. if you don't give it what it wants you get stressed and hartbeat goes up, when you give it nicotine it fulfils its demands thus relaxing. alot of people would feal better not smoking, but meh. as long as people don't smoke near me i don't really care.
gamemodding wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 21:00 it only relaxes you because you are stressed because of witdrawal symptoms. from the very first ciggy, your body wants more nicotine. if you don't give it what it wants you get stressed and hartbeat goes up, when you give it nicotine it fulfils its demands thus relaxing. alot of people would feal better not smoking, but meh. as long as people don't smoke near me i don't really care. My father was addicted to ciggs. Glad he stopped, but it doesn't bother me if you smoke, do drugs or drink. It's not up to me to tell you what to do with your body and i don't think its the governments job either.
Darkknight wrote on Sun, 14 January 2007 03:04 but it doesn't bother me if you smoke, do drugs or drink. It's not up to me to tell you what to do with your body and i don't think its the governments job either. exacly what i say to people who say "OMG IM SMOKING, IM SO COOL"
The problem I see is the things that drug addicts do in order to get the financial means to pay for their high. I have an uncle who was a drug addict (he's dead now, thank goodness)... he was in and out of jail from early teens for breaking into people's houses and stealing shit to sell. Having marijuana illegal at this point is a strong deterrent, allowing everyone over 18 to use it would encourage more people to take up the habit. Everyone I've ever seen on weed has been a lazy fuck who doesn't want to do anything. And then there was this guy I used to know who got drunk and high on January 5, 2000 and shot a 40 year old mother of two in the face with a pistol, killing her... and all she was doing was delivering him a pizza.
I'm against Cigarettes, Alcohol, and Drugs. You shouldn't need any of these things and they are a detriment to society. Combine the three and you have the reason why most people die rapped up into one explanation. That is all.
Crimson wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 21:19 The problem I see is the things that drug addicts do in order to get the financial means to pay for their high. I have an uncle who was a drug addict (he's dead now, thank goodness)... he was in and out of jail from early teens for breaking into people's houses and stealing shit to sell. Having marijuana illegal at this point is a strong deterrent, allowing everyone over 18 to use it would encourage more people to take up the habit. That's kinda my point about prohibition.
Crimson wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 21:19 The problem I see is the things that drug addicts do in order to get the financial means to pay for their high. I have an uncle who was a drug addict (he's dead now, thank goodness)... he was in and out of jail from early teens for breaking into people's houses and stealing shit to sell. Having marijuana illegal at this point is a strong deterrent, allowing everyone over 18 to use it would encourage more people to take up the habit. Everyone I've ever seen on weed has been a lazy fuck who doesn't want to do anything. And then there was this guy I used to know who got drunk and high on January 5, 2000 and shot a 40 year old mother of two in the face with a pistol, killing her... and all she was doing was delivering him a pizza. Were not talking about skag heads or crack whores here, you don't see people commiting violent crimes to get their weed fix, for one they would be to lazy for anything like that and getting high on weed is still cheaper than getting drunk despite high prices.
Crimson wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 20:19 The problem I see is the things that drug addicts do in order to get the financial means to pay for their high. I have an uncle who was a drug addict (he's dead now, thank goodness)... he was in and out of jail from early teens for breaking into people's houses and stealing shit to sell. Having marijuana illegal at this point is a strong deterrent, allowing everyone over 18 to use it would encourage more people to take up the habit. Everyone I've ever seen on weed has been a lazy fuck who doesn't want to do anything. And then there was this guy I used to know who got drunk and high on January 5, 2000 and shot a 40 year old mother of two in the face with a pistol, killing her... and all she was doing was delivering him a pizza. I have a friend who smokes Marijuana all the time. He is one of the laziest people I know. He finally got a job, but only so he can pay for his Marijuana, and he wastes every single penny on the stuff. Such a waste. He is a lazy ass as well. He's very smart, as a matter of fact, he doesn't do any of his school work, yet he can pass all his tests with C's or better, and mostly A's. But what is the point? He doesn't do his work and fails out of school. He wastes all his money on a drug that does no good for him at all. A pathetic waste. Gbull wrote I'm against Cigarettes, Alcohol, and Drugs. You shouldn't need any of these things and they are a detriment to society. Combine the three and you have the reason why most people die rapped up into one explanation. That is all. Exactly. You shouldn't have to do drugs to have fun. If you have to do drugs to have fun, you must be a boring person, get a life. Aside from that, there is no real point in wasting money on something that will only make you "feel good" for a small amount of time. You could be using your money for better things to better yourself in life instead of being that pathetic person who relies on drugs to have fun, feel good, and pass time.
Dave Anderson wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 23:53 I have a friend who smokes Marijuana all the time. He is one of the laziest people I know. He finally got a job, but only so he can pay for his Marijuana, and he wastes every single penny on the stuff. Such a waste. He is a lazy ass as well. He's very smart, as a matter of fact, he doesn't do any of his school work, yet he can pass all his tests with C's or better, and mostly A's. But what is the point? He doesn't do his work and fails out of school. He wastes all his money on a drug that does no good for him at all. A pathetic waste. Do you feel that your anecdotal evidence justifies the prohibition of Marijuana along with the consequences that go with it? Dave Anderson wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 23:53 Exactly. You shouldn't have to do drugs to have fun. If you have to do drugs to have fun, you must be a boring person, get a life. Aside from that, there is no real point in wasting money on something that will only make you "feel good" for a small amount of time. You could be using your money for better things to better yourself in life instead of being that pathetic person who relies on drugs to have fun, feel good, and pass time. Some people feel that you shouldn't waste time on the Internet to have fun. Who the hell are you to dictate what someone else does during their free time? Crimson wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 22:19 Everyone I've ever seen on weed has been a lazy fuck who doesn't want to do anything. Keep in mind that you've probably seen plenty of people that smoke weed and aren't lazy as fuck. Sure, there are always extremes, but majority of cannabis users that I know hold down a full time job, raise families, and attend college/high school. I manage to smoke on a weekly basis while working 40+ hours a week, going to school, and finding time for a social life. -- I can't understand why several people in this thread keep suggesting that all drug users need a drug to have fun. Can someone please explain the logic behind this incorrect conclusion?
Quote: Do you feel that your anecdotal evidence justifies the prohibition of Marijuana along with the consequences that go with it? No, I am not justifying the prohibition of Marijuana. I have other friends who use Marijuana for a pain killer, that, I agree with. What I disagree with is when people use it for enjoyment. However, I can care less if they use it or not, it is their life, as long as they don't smoke it around me. Marijuana has good uses, its just too bad that people abuse it. That is when I disagree with it. You make it legal, it gets abused even more. Keep it illegal, at least it is "somewhat" controlled. And I use that term loosely.
I'm still wondering why you care about what someone is doing in their free time when it's none of your business at all.
Agrees with 'xptek'. I believe people should have a choice to use "Marijuana" Inside of there homes. I know of many people that use marijuana and they act like every one else and have normal life. (Post count +1)
xptek wrote: I'm still wondering why you care about what someone is doing in their free time when it's none of your business at all. Dave S. Anderson wrote: However, I can care less if they use it or not, it is their life, as long as they don't smoke it around me.
Dave Anderson However, I can care less if they use it or not, it is their life, as long as they don't smoke it around me. Then why input your opinion on this issue if your ultimate excuse for not supporting your argument is that you don't care if people smoke it?
z310...and GTFO of this thread, please. It was a mistake to start this thread on these forums...
Crimson wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 22:19 The problem I see is the things that drug addicts do in order to get the financial means to pay for their high. Marijuana isn't addictive, so there's no problem there.
Alex wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 21:52 If you're addicted to tobacco, Then yes, when you're stressed out, It feels like a smoke can relax you. If you don't smoke and your stressed out, and have a cig, You will most probably caugh your lungs out then feel any more relaxed. a cigarette has 100's of chemicals that kill you than relax you. lol tobacco is from the plant so it could relax you, not exactly sure on that one. gamemodding wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 22:00 it only relaxes you because you are stressed because of witdrawal symptoms. from the very first ciggy, your body wants more nicotine. if you don't give it what it wants you get stressed and hartbeat goes up, when you give it nicotine it fulfils its demands thus relaxing. alot of people would feal better not smoking, but meh. as long as people don't smoke near me i don't really care. Have either of you ever smoked a cigarette?
z310 wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 23:37 z310...and GTFO of this thread, please. It was a mistake to start this thread on these forums... You ask for peoples opinions, then you tell them to get out of your thread if you don't like what they have said. That doesn't make sense.
z310 wrote on Sun, 14 January 2007 00:50 Alex wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 21:52 If you're addicted to tobacco, Then yes, when you're stressed out, It feels like a smoke can relax you. If you don't smoke and your stressed out, and have a cig, You will most probably caugh your lungs out then feel any more relaxed. a cigarette has 100's of chemicals that kill you than relax you. lol tobacco is from the plant so it could relax you, not exactly sure on that one. gamemodding wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 22:00 it only relaxes you because you are stressed because of witdrawal symptoms. from the very first ciggy, your body wants more nicotine. if you don't give it what it wants you get stressed and hartbeat goes up, when you give it nicotine it fulfils its demands thus relaxing. alot of people would feal better not smoking, but meh. as long as people don't smoke near me i don't really care. Have either of you ever smoked a cigarette? Actualy i'm smoking one right now, Why? Does that make be a bad person?
z310 wrote on Sun, 14 January 2007 06:50 Alex wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 21:52 If you're addicted to tobacco, Then yes, when you're stressed out, It feels like a smoke can relax you. If you don't smoke and your stressed out, and have a cig, You will most probably caugh your lungs out then feel any more relaxed. a cigarette has 100's of chemicals that kill you than relax you. lol tobacco is from the plant so it could relax you, not exactly sure on that one. gamemodding wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 22:00 it only relaxes you because you are stressed because of witdrawal symptoms. from the very first ciggy, your body wants more nicotine. if you don't give it what it wants you get stressed and hartbeat goes up, when you give it nicotine it fulfils its demands thus relaxing. alot of people would feal better not smoking, but meh. as long as people don't smoke near me i don't really care. Have either of you ever smoked a cigarette? yes, i will never do it again.
gamemodding wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 19:35 tobbaco isn't a drug. i know someone from school that takes pot because he says it makes his music sounds better, he said there was no way of describing it. hes not all like "OMG I TAKE WEED IM SO COOL". Sounds like his music is bad in everyones ears but he thinks its better as hes flying high as a kite.
z310 wrote on Sun, 14 January 2007 07:44 Crimson wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 22:19 The problem I see is the things that drug addicts do in order to get the financial means to pay for their high. Marijuana isn't addictive, so there's no problem there. It is highly mentally addictive.
Let’s just ban it all. Anything I think is bad for YOU we should ban from YOU using it. Have you ever seen the movie Demolition Man? You’re who he is fighting against.
puddle_splasher wrote on Sun, 14 January 2007 04:39 gamemodding wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 19:35 tobbaco isn't a drug. i know someone from school that takes pot because he says it makes his music sounds better, he said there was no way of describing it. hes not all like "OMG I TAKE WEED IM SO COOL". Sounds like his music is bad in everyones ears but he thinks its better as hes flying high as a kite. No musician has ever made good music while on drugs.
Dave Anderson wrote on Sun, 14 January 2007 02:36 z310 wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 23:37 z310...and GTFO of this thread, please. It was a mistake to start this thread on these forums... You ask for peoples opinions, then you tell them to get out of your thread if you don't like what they have said. That doesn't make sense. I'm asking for opinions that make some sense. I'm sorry if you couldn't figure that out...
Goztow wrote on Sun, 14 January 2007 05:12 z310 wrote on Sun, 14 January 2007 07:44 Crimson wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 22:19 The problem I see is the things that drug addicts do in order to get the financial means to pay for their high. Marijuana isn't addictive, so there's no problem there. It is highly mentally addictive. You can be addicted to anything mentally. You don't see people going around stealing/killing for some ice cream. Only insane people will be going around stealing/killing for some weed on account of their addiction. I know somebody that is addicted to it. She has only been able to go three days without getting high, but that's because she has really easy access to it. If she couldn't get it, she wouldn't steal or kill for it.
mrpirate wrote on Sun, 14 January 2007 12:13 puddle_splasher wrote on Sun, 14 January 2007 04:39 gamemodding wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 19:35 tobbaco isn't a drug. i know someone from school that takes pot because he says it makes his music sounds better, he said there was no way of describing it. hes not all like "OMG I TAKE WEED IM SO COOL". Sounds like his music is bad in everyones ears but he thinks its better as hes flying high as a kite. No musician has ever made good music while on drugs. i gotta ask what you listen to then because it isnt rock n roll
The Beatles would have sucked without drugs
MexPirate wrote on Sun, 14 January 2007 19:30 The Beatles would have sucked without drugs Hahaha Thats true! Lucy In The Sky With Diomands!
Darkknight wrote on Sun, 14 January 2007 09:52 Let’s just ban it all. Anything I think is bad for YOU we should ban from YOU using it. Have you ever seen the movie Demolition Man? You’re who he is fighting against. Because nobody can tell you what is and isn't good for you. Like your parents. Or your doctor. I ate some ice cream once. I felt all weird and saw Jesus. I also got fired from work for coming in full of ice cream.
z310 wrote on Sun, 14 January 2007 20:02 Goztow wrote on Sun, 14 January 2007 05:12 z310 wrote on Sun, 14 January 2007 07:44 Crimson wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 22:19 The problem I see is the things that drug addicts do in order to get the financial means to pay for their high. Marijuana isn't addictive, so there's no problem there. It is highly mentally addictive. You can be addicted to anything mentally. You don't see people going around stealing/killing for some ice cream. Only insane people will be going around stealing/killing for some weed on account of their addiction. I know somebody that is addicted to it. She has only been able to go three days without getting high, but that's because she has really easy access to it. If she couldn't get it, she wouldn't steal or kill for it. So you say that if she couldn't afford it anymore, she wouldn't sell anything to get her joint?
Goztow wrote on Mon, 15 January 2007 07:17 So you say that if she couldn't afford it anymore, she wouldn't sell anything to get her joint? No-one mentioned "sell" and if you mean sell, then further elaborate.
By selling, he means giving away an asset. In a rather extreme case, he may mean prostitution. It's not unheard of for women to sell themselves to obtain what is needed to fulfill their drug fixes.
I ment like selling a ring, mobile phone or something. Not selling her body.
Still pretty ridiculous. It's not hard to stop smoking weed even if you have been every day for a year.
totally true, I smoked pretty much every day for 18 months then stopped instantly for 6 months before picking it up again. It was just a change in lifestyle and it wasn't hard to give up - I could have got hold of it at any time if I had the desire to.
Well, from my own experiences, I don't know why anyone would be "addicted" to it.
xptek wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 22:25 I'm still wondering why you care about what someone is doing in their free time when it's none of your business at all. If it's on their own time, more power to them. The minute it starts affecting those around them, then there is a problem. ie. Unpleasant to be around because it stinks, driving, taking care of those who can't take care of themselves. Just a few examples of what I mean by affecting those around them.