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Re: Who's the biggest retard on Renforums?
Jimbo27 wrote on Thu, 11 January 2007 20:21 I vote trooprm02. Discuss. For time day and age: Troop Other notables are Nopic, TheGunRun, Kinghigh, ACK and Superj69
Vote me, VOTE MEEEEE I dont really have grudges, and I dont like people who do. Its a freaking game, guys.
This definitely needs to be in Hot Topics, if at all. -moved-
I am surprised no one has voted me or sm0ke. (Preferably sm0ke..). BTW, Troop gets my vote
Troop, since he has completely ignored challenges from Spoony to a 1 on 1 about 463 times now, and counting.
I vote me, Seriously, Non of you knoticed my retardnes? I'll vote for teh pwnerer, If it makes him feel special.
Read abt Troop and agree that he is the biggest retard here
Vote for meeee. (Also, voting fl00d3d or Alkaline...)
retardedness levels jshultz > nopic > trooprm > * > Aircraftkiller Aircraftkiller was definitely an asshole. That doesn't make him a retard.
xptek wrote on Fri, 12 January 2007 01:01 Vote for meeee. (Also, voting fl00d3d or Alkaline...) lol
SpyGuy246 wrote on Fri, 12 January 2007 06:41 {IRA}IronHorse Seconded!!
Alex wrote on Thu, 11 January 2007 22:11 I vote me, Seriously, Non of you knoticed my retardnes? I'll vote for teh pwnerer, If it makes him feel special. Now I don't. Please vote for somone else?
SeargentSarg wrote on Fri, 12 January 2007 06:09 Alex wrote on Thu, 11 January 2007 22:11 I vote me, Seriously, Non of you knoticed my retardnes? I'll vote for teh pwnerer, If it makes him feel special. Now I don't. Please vote for somone else? Be careful what you wish for.
xptek is just entertaining tbh. Troop has to get the crown. Closely followed by Jschultz, Tanner, tcusniper, Ironhorse and X90 (Can't be bothered to check the spelling).
On topic : The biggest retard (thats such a horrible word) on here at the moment has to be Tanner2007 talking to himself. Off topic : Im going to place $50 that this thread becomes one of those who can spam the best picture threads
Caveman wrote on Fri, 12 January 2007 14:51 On topic : The biggest retard (thats such a horrible word) on here at the moment has to be Tanner2007 talking to himself. Off topic : Im going to place $50 that this thread becomes one of those who can spam the best picture threads How could we forget Moee/etc. and Crime8768?
Canadacdn. I hate that fucking cunt.
WHY AREN'T I ON THE LIST!?
MexPirate wrote on Fri, 12 January 2007 15:38 xptek is just entertaining tbh. I aim to please.
i think this should go to tanner2007 http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&th=22658&start=0&rid=2 1132
I reckon troop then Gamemodding closely followed by his hubby the17doctor.
Dam it feels good to be a gangsta ps, i 0wNz @ll, kthnx
lol You still seriously still think that simply looking at how cheats function makes them a bad group?
No, this does: Quote: All of this was made for testing purposes and to see what I could do in the game. After using it in the n00bstories server (again: testing), I couldn't stop using it.
its not that ether. rengaurd is flawed 1.04 will not fix it.
JohnDoe wrote on Wed, 17 January 2007 11:29 No, this does: Quote: All of this was made for testing purposes and to see what I could do in the game. After using it in the n00bstories server (again: testing), I couldn't stop using it. What does that have to do with BHS?
An employee's actions reflect upon the company.
BHS need to actully think about how they are going to implement rengaurd. when/if/if im still alive when RG 1.4 comes out ill show you how easy it is to bypass. and this is me thats doing it. thats saying something, i never any good at that sort of stuff. there are other things that made me not trust BI, as a result, i don't trust BHS either.
Dave Anderson wrote on Wed, 17 January 2007 15:13 An employee's actions reflect upon the company. Only if they were done in the name of the company, or done by a person in a position of power within the company. I don't know about you, but I'll continue going to the convenience store despite one of it's employees being caught stealing from someone else.
gamemodding wrote on Wed, 17 January 2007 17:19 BHS need to actully think about how they are going to implement rengaurd. when/if/if im still alive when RG 1.4 comes out ill show you how easy it is to bypass. and this is me thats doing it. thats saying something, i never any good at that sort of stuff. there are other things that made me not trust BI, as a result, i don't trust BHS either. You could simply be mature and inform BHS about your "working" bypass. As for the topic: I was going to say "you", but I decided to vote for gamemodding instead. The reasons are obvious.
Maybe he might get hooked on cheating before he informs RG team.
i would, but im waiting for 1.04. i couldn't care less if you think im a "retard"
warranto wrote on Wed, 17 January 2007 16:02 Dave Anderson wrote on Wed, 17 January 2007 15:13 An employee's actions reflect upon the company. Only if they were done in the name of the company, or done by a person in a position of power within the company. I thought he was part BHS (officially)? warranto wrote on Wed, 17 January 2007 16:02 I don't know about you, but I'll continue going to the convenience store despite one of it's employees being caught stealing from someone else. I would too, probably being more careful, but a lot of people would black list that store until that employee was gone.
warranto wrote on Wed, 17 January 2007 23:02 Dave Anderson wrote on Wed, 17 January 2007 15:13 An employee's actions reflect upon the company. Only if they were done in the name of the company, or done by a person in a position of power within the company. I don't know about you, but I'll continue going to the convenience store despite one of it's employees being caught stealing from someone else. Wrong analogy, try "...cought vandalizing someone's property and the fully aware owner keeping it a secret from the public and lying to the police when questioned." I sure as hell wouldn't buy there. C'mon, we've gone down this road before...I know you see this as an opportunity to practice how to defend a clearly guilty client, but to people who don't know about your lawschool ambitions, you just seem like a mindless n00bstories drone.
JohnDoe wrote on Wed, 17 January 2007 19:21 warranto wrote on Wed, 17 January 2007 23:02 Dave Anderson wrote on Wed, 17 January 2007 15:13 An employee's actions reflect upon the company. Only if they were done in the name of the company, or done by a person in a position of power within the company. I don't know about you, but I'll continue going to the convenience store despite one of it's employees being caught stealing from someone else. Wrong analogy, try "...cought vandalizing someone's property and the fully aware owner keeping it a secret from the public and lying to the police when questioned." I sure as hell wouldn't buy there. C'mon, we've gone down this road before...I know you see this as an opportunity to practice how to defend a clearly guilty client, but to people who don't know about your lawschool ambitions, you just seem like a mindless n00bstories drone. Well put. THAT explains why he goes so far out of his way (while looking like a complete retard) to try to prove us wrong.
gamemodding, can I ask why you did not trust BI? If this has got to do with Dead6re: He joined us when there was no reason to suspect him of anything bad. After heard some things about him, partly through Crimson, partly by ourself, we decided to kick him from the team. This was still not related to him cheating. He leaked important information that was said not to be leaked multiple times. This information could be used to create worse cheats than most of you have seen (unless you made them yourself). I have created these and have never let anyone read the code, however we talked about it with the coders and apparently Dead6re felt he needed to share this information. We at that point did not think he did it on purpose, but thought a kick from BI was necessary nonetheless. This is all information I can give about this as I do not want to leak what Dead6re partially leaked. If you are doubting about BI because of something else, please tell me what that is, as I am sure that at least the admins of BI are clean and trying their best to be as good as possible to the renegade community. About Renguard, it is not possible to make a 100% cheatproof system as it runs on the client. I'm pretty sure it is being made as good as the coders can get it to work. I too think the support for the current version is not that good, however I do seriously wonder how you can say anything about the new version which is yet to be released... If you think you can make anything that works better than the next version of Renguard does, then it would be nice to see it in action too. If you think you can easily bypass/hack/whatever it when it is out, please share that information with the coders of it as it might be fixable then. As for calling "BHS" retarded for something, you shouldn't consider BHS as one and the same person. Some of team members may in your opinion be retarded, maybe the way BHS handles problems too, however you cannot say the entire team is retarded because of that.
StealthEye wrote on Thu, 18 January 2007 03:56 gamemodding, can I ask why you did not trust BI? If this has got to do with Dead6re: He joined us when there was no reason to suspect him of anything bad. After heard some things about him, partly through Crimson, partly by ourself, we decided to kick him from the team. This was still not related to him cheating. He leaked important information that was said not to be leaked multiple times. This information could be used to create worse cheats than most of you have seen (unless you made them yourself). I have created these and have never let anyone read the code, however we talked about it with the coders and apparently Dead6re felt he needed to share this information. We at that point did not think he did it on purpose, but thought a kick from BI was necessary nonetheless. This is all information I can give about this as I do not want to leak what Dead6re partially leaked. If you are doubting about BI because of something else, please tell me what that is, as I am sure that at least the admins of BI are clean and trying their best to be as good as possible to the renegade community. About Renguard, it is not possible to make a 100% cheatproof system as it runs on the client. I'm pretty sure it is being made as good as the coders can get it to work. I too think the support for the current version is not that good, however I do seriously wonder how you can say anything about the new version which is yet to be released... If you think you can make anything that works better than the next version of Renguard does, then it would be nice to see it in action too. If you think you can easily bypass/hack/whatever it when it is out, please share that information with the coders of it as it might be fixable then. As for calling "BHS" retarded for something, you shouldn't consider BHS as one and the same person. Some of team members may in your opinion be retarded, maybe the way BHS handles problems too, however you cannot say the entire team is retarded because of that. What I used to fixable, Sir_Kane made a fix for it, and working on other fixes as we speak.
Silent Kane wrote on Wed, 17 January 2007 17:08 gamemodding wrote on Wed, 17 January 2007 17:19 BHS need to actully think about how they are going to implement rengaurd. when/if/if im still alive when RG 1.4 comes out ill show you how easy it is to bypass. and this is me thats doing it. thats saying something, i never any good at that sort of stuff. there are other things that made me not trust BI, as a result, i don't trust BHS either. You could simply be mature and inform BHS about your "working" bypass. LOL!
It takes a real fucktard to even THINKG about insulting warranto, let alone actually insulting him.
MexPirate wrote on Thu, 18 January 2007 07:09 Silent Kane wrote on Wed, 17 January 2007 17:08 gamemodding wrote on Wed, 17 January 2007 17:19 BHS need to actully think about how they are going to implement rengaurd. when/if/if im still alive when RG 1.4 comes out ill show you how easy it is to bypass. and this is me thats doing it. thats saying something, i never any good at that sort of stuff. there are other things that made me not trust BI, as a result, i don't trust BHS either. You could simply be mature and inform BHS about your "working" bypass. LOL! If we're on the same page, I second your 'LOL!'
Silent Kane wrote on Thu, 18 January 2007 07:24 It takes a real fucktard to even THINKG about insulting warranto, let alone actually insulting him. A smart person would spend their time cheating at Renegade.
Jimbo27 wrote on Wed, 17 January 2007 20:41 JohnDoe wrote on Wed, 17 January 2007 19:21 warranto wrote on Wed, 17 January 2007 23:02 Dave Anderson wrote on Wed, 17 January 2007 15:13 An employee's actions reflect upon the company. Only if they were done in the name of the company, or done by a person in a position of power within the company. I don't know about you, but I'll continue going to the convenience store despite one of it's employees being caught stealing from someone else. Wrong analogy, try "...cought vandalizing someone's property and the fully aware owner keeping it a secret from the public and lying to the police when questioned." I sure as hell wouldn't buy there. C'mon, we've gone down this road before...I know you see this as an opportunity to practice how to defend a clearly guilty client, but to people who don't know about your lawschool ambitions, you just seem like a mindless n00bstories drone. Well put. THAT explains why he goes so far out of his way (while looking like a complete retard) to try to prove us wrong. JohnDoe: Unfortunately that analogy doesn't work. No one says that you MUST report all crimes (no one was questioned by a figure of authority here). Even if Crimson knew about it, it was not done in the name of BHS, therefor there is no connection that can be made. No court would deal a punishment against the business for the action of an individual done in his private time, even if that business knew about it. There was no association of the business with the crime, therefor the business can not be blamed for the crime. No matter how you wish otherwise, all you have to rely on is your petty indulgence against them in trying to find whatever you can to make them look bad. As for this lawyer thing, where do you get the idea that I'm going to be defending people? Jimbo: This coming from someone who financially supports n00bstories. "Crimson is bad, but I'll still give her money!"
fl00d3d wrote: If we're on the same page, I second your 'LOL!' If you only had a clue...
Quote: JohnDoe: Unfortunately that analogy doesn't work. No one says that you MUST report all crimes (no one was questioned by a figure of authority here). Even if Crimson knew about it, it was not done in the name of BHS, therefor there is no connection that can be made. No court would deal a punishment against the business for the action of an individual done in his private time, even if that business knew about it. There was no association of the business with the crime, therefor the business can not be blamed for the crime. No matter how you wish otherwise, all you have to rely on is your petty indulgence against them in trying to find whatever you can to make them look bad. As for this lawyer thing, where do you get the idea that I'm going to be defending people? Please point out where in my analogy I'm suggesting that the owner committed a crime by not reporting the crime and should be punished by law? Good job finding flaws that never existent until you made them up. All I said is that I sure as hell wouldn't be buying there. You know I'm right, so stop embarrassing yourself further by carrying on this ridiculous discussion. Lawyer: I figured you're ambitious, guess I was wrong.
You're saying that the business should be punished because of the actions of one of its employees. I'm simply pointing out how it does not work that way. If a business were to be punished for the actions of one of its employees, it would have... (refer to my previous post). You don't have to defend people to be ambitious.
Ya dont blame Jimbo for his stupid actions, hes got down syndrome
warranto wrote on Thu, 18 January 2007 08:38 You're saying that the business should be punished because of the actions of one of its employees. I'm simply pointing out how it does not work that way. If a business were to be punished for the actions of one of its employees, it would have... (refer to my previous post). You don't have to defend people to be ambitious. Please quote where I say so. I'm talking about losing the trust of the people, not legal actions.
warranto wrote on Thu, 18 January 2007 05:31 Unfortunately that analogy doesn't work. No one says that you MUST report all crimes (no one was questioned by a figure of authority here). Even if Crimson knew about it, it was not done in the name of BHS, therefor there is no connection that can be made. No court would deal a punishment against the business for the action of an individual done in his private time, even if that business knew about it. There was no association of the business with the crime, therefor the business can not be blamed for the crime. What are Accessory and Obstruction charges then?
Acessory: The act of helping someone commit a crime. Having knowledge of a crime does not constitute this. Quote: A person who learns of the crime after it is committed and helps the criminal to conceal it, or aids the criminal in escaping, or simply fails to report the crime, is known as an "accessory after the fact". Ah, I see now. I guess this is why people from different countries shouldn't argue the law. That aspect of accessory is not present in Canadian law. Nothing in Canadian law compels you to report a crime. That is particular to the United States. Of course, if I were arguing American law, I'd probably not have the little Canadian flag beside my name. Obstruction: Basically its giving an authoritative body false information to prevent the investigation from finding the guilty person. Too bad no authority figure had ever asked for assistance or information.
so, i worked in a bakery and i put nuts in a product that wasn't supposed to have them in. someone with a nut alergy ate it, had a bad reaction. the company would get in trouble for that.
Exactly. Because you are acting in the capacity of the companies employee. If you baked them at home and put nuts in, the company would have no blame.
unless that comapny sold the product you made.
warranto wrote on Thu, 18 January 2007 09:23 Acessory: The act of helping someone commit a crime. Having knowledge of a crime does not constitute this. Quote: A person who learns of the crime after it is committed and helps the criminal to conceal it (my edit), or aids the criminal in escaping, or simply fails to report the crime, is known as an "accessory after the fact". Ah, I see now. I guess this is why people from different countries shouldn't argue the law. That aspect of accessory is not present in Canadian law. Nothing in Canadian law compels you to report a crime. That is particular to the United States. Of course, if I were arguing American law, I'd probably not have the little Canadian flag beside my name. Obstruction: Basically its giving an authoritative body false information to prevent the investigation from finding the guilty person. Too bad no authority figure had ever asked for assistance or information. Whoops, I guess I'm at fault for forgetting that Canada has different legal definitions than we do. Sorry about that. However, considering n00bstories and RenGuard are operated in the United States, I would assume that they are subject to the laws of the United States. Renegade itself is a product from the United States, and it conforms to its laws as well. Therefore, according to EA's EULA for Renegade: Quote: 2. COPYRIGHT AND RESTRICTIONS. [...] You also may not copy, modify, adapt, translate, create derivative works of, publicly perform, publicly display, distribute, transmit, decompile, disassemble or otherwise reverse engineer or attempt to reverse engineer or derive source code from, all or any portion of the Product or anything incorporated therein, including any screen display, sound or accompanying documentation, or permit or encourage any third party to do so. [...] Further, if the Product contains a map or level editor, you may use the editor in accordance with the instructions in the accompanying documentation to create maps or levels for your personal use and enjoyment, and you may allow others to use such maps or levels for their personal use and enjoyment, but in no event may such maps or levels be exploited commercially in any manner, by you or any other person or entity. [...] 4. GAME SERVERS. [...] The only authorized method of accessing any server to use the Product is by using an unmodified copy of the Product as distributed by or for EA. You shall select and then use any such server all at your sole cost, expense and risk, including any communication costs, such as telephone charges and/or Internet access fees. 5. APPROPRIATE GAME PLAY; RESPONSIBILITY FOR GAME PLAY. You agree to not take any action or pass any communication, either in or through the Product, that interferes with another player’s ability to enjoy his or her play of the game or which is objectionable or inappropriate. [...] Technically, even though EA hasn't pursued any legal action against BHS, server owners, and mod makers for creating scripts.dll modifications/core patches/RenGuard/serverside mods/etc., or for creating/using cheats to ruin games, they could if they felt it was worth their time and expense, which I believe is not currently the case. EA could also formally endorse certain modifications and their use/incorporation, but I have yet to see any such endorsement. Also, should EA ever wish to have knowledge of the internals of RenGuard or any serverside modification that may include code intended for improper use (since their mere existence is a violation of the license agreement), or any information regarding derivative issues (e.g. hidden agendas, backdoors, exploits), if someone receives a court order requesting the production of documents, withholding such information would indeed constitute an Accessory and/or Obstruction charge. However, there is no telling whether it would ever come to that, and although possible, it's unlikely. If my logic is flawed, please correct me. Also, feel free to split this discussion into a new thread if you wish, since we've gone a bit off-topic (although it's not like this thread can be improved anyway).
Are you going to quote yours truely to prove me wrong or do you acknowledge that I won an internet?
Technically, BHS could sue all the people who have ever used the RG bypass, too. All of you who installed the Core Patches are technically breaking the EULA, too. Whee!
Crimson wrote on Thu, 18 January 2007 13:15 Technically, BHS could sue all the people who have ever used the RG bypass, too. All of you who installed the Core Patches are technically breaking the EULA, too. Whee! I'm not sure you could sue them for bypassing RG as, since I stated before, unless I misunderstand how it works (very easy since I know nothing about that), its existence is also technically illegal unless EA gave you the go-ahead.
Quote: Whoops, I guess I'm at fault for forgetting that Canada has different legal definitions than we do. Sorry about that. Meh, I'm just as much at fault for not realizing America had a different definition. Quote: Technically, even though EA hasn't pursued any legal action against BHS, server owners, and mod makers for creating scripts.dll modifications/core patches/RenGuard/serverside mods/etc., or for creating/using cheats to ruin games, they could if they felt it was worth their time and expense, which I believe is not currently the case. EA could also formally endorse certain modifications and their use/incorporation, but I have yet to see any such endorsement. Also, should EA ever wish to have knowledge of the internals of RenGuard or any serverside modification that may include code intended for improper use (since their mere existence is a violation of the license agreement), or any information regarding derivative issues (e.g. hidden agendas, backdoors, exploits), if someone receives a court order requesting the production of documents, withholding such information would indeed constitute an Accessory and/or Obstruction charge. However, there is no telling whether it would ever come to that, and although possible, it's unlikely. Oh, all that is true, and the logic is not flawed. There may be some exceptions to that rule, relating to the "greater benefit of enjoyment" (my own term, I forget the more appropriate one) but I don't want to get into semantics like that. The same with dealing with Internet-based jurisdictions/registered offices, etc. When no crime has actually been committed (I know that we are using criminal examples, but at the end of the argument they mean nothing other than to illuminate like-circumstances) All I'm trying to argue is that despite what SK may have done, should BHS be punished for SK's actions as well? Quote: Are you going to quote yours truely to prove me wrong or do you acknowledge that I won an internet? I didn't forget about you, I just missed the post. Quote: Please quote where I say so. I'm talking about losing the trust of the people, not legal actions. I'm not specifying legal actions (that's just a similar circumstance that relates to this), I'm talking about blame, be it in the form of lost trust, legal actions, or any other sort of punitive act. But to answer your question directly, you gave the "improved" analogy, and ended off by stating "I sure as hell wouldn't buy there." You're putting the blame on the business for the actions of a person who happens to work there. I'm saying that there is no blame to be put on the business as the person did not do anything wrong in the name of the business. Did something wrong, yes... but not under the guise of the business he works for.
Quote: the fully aware owner keeping it a secret from the public and lying to the police when questioned This is why I wouldn't buy there...it's the actions of the owner, not the actions of the employee. Don't get it twisted.
Crimson wrote on Thu, 18 January 2007 21:15 Technically, BHS could sue all the people who have ever used the RG bypass, too. on what grounds?
gamemodding wrote on Thu, 18 January 2007 22:55 Crimson wrote on Thu, 18 January 2007 21:15 Technically, BHS could sue all the people who have ever used the RG bypass, too. on what grounds? Prolly the terms of use which they agree to when installing it.
warranto wrote on Thu, 18 January 2007 08:31 Jimbo27 wrote on Wed, 17 January 2007 20:41 JohnDoe wrote on Wed, 17 January 2007 19:21 warranto wrote on Wed, 17 January 2007 23:02 Dave Anderson wrote on Wed, 17 January 2007 15:13 An employee's actions reflect upon the company. Only if they were done in the name of the company, or done by a person in a position of power within the company. I don't know about you, but I'll continue going to the convenience store despite one of it's employees being caught stealing from someone else. Wrong analogy, try "...cought vandalizing someone's property and the fully aware owner keeping it a secret from the public and lying to the police when questioned." I sure as hell wouldn't buy there. C'mon, we've gone down this road before...I know you see this as an opportunity to practice how to defend a clearly guilty client, but to people who don't know about your lawschool ambitions, you just seem like a mindless n00bstories drone. Well put. THAT explains why he goes so far out of his way (while looking like a complete retard) to try to prove us wrong. JohnDoe: Unfortunately that analogy doesn't work. No one says that you MUST report all crimes (no one was questioned by a figure of authority here). Even if Crimson knew about it, it was not done in the name of BHS, therefor there is no connection that can be made. No court would deal a punishment against the business for the action of an individual done in his private time, even if that business knew about it. There was no association of the business with the crime, therefor the business can not be blamed for the crime. No matter how you wish otherwise, all you have to rely on is your petty indulgence against them in trying to find whatever you can to make them look bad. As for this lawyer thing, where do you get the idea that I'm going to be defending people? Jimbo: This coming from someone who financially supports n00bstories. "Crimson is bad, but I'll still give her money!" 1. When did I say crimson is bad? for the most part I am in praise of what she has done. 2. When did I give her money? Troopr: Don't even TALK to me about being a retard. You've been commonly accepted as the most PITIFUL person on these forum. Grow the fukk up nerd.
Goztow wrote on Thu, 18 January 2007 22:15 gamemodding wrote on Thu, 18 January 2007 22:55 Crimson wrote on Thu, 18 January 2007 21:15 Technically, BHS could sue all the people who have ever used the RG bypass, too. on what grounds? Prolly the terms of use which they agree to when installing it. but what if, the bypass doesn't affect the actual program running?
Quote: When did I say crimson is bad? for the most part I am in praise of what she has done. My mistake, I thought your accusations about not being able to trust BHS because of what Crimson has said meant that you couldn't trust anyone who works with BHS (which includes, interestingly enough, Crimson) Quote: When did I give her money? Erm, premium account status at n00bstories.com costs money. Unless you were one of those lucky few who won the free lifetime premium status... then I retract that part of the statement.
warranto wrote on Thu, 18 January 2007 17:45 Quote: When did I say crimson is bad? for the most part I am in praise of what she has done. My mistake, I thought your accusations about not being able to trust BHS because of what Crimson has said meant that you couldn't trust anyone who works with BHS (which includes, interestingly enough, Crimson) Quote: When did I give her money? Erm, premium account status at n00bstories.com costs money. Unless you were one of those lucky few who won the free lifetime premium status... then I retract that part of the statement. I never went off on any rants about not trusting BHS because of this. That was all of the other retards who actually care. I do, however, think the way all of this was handled (i.e. by Crimson) was very funny.I have accepted for a long time now that RG1.04 is unlikely to be released. I cared when SK and crimson tried to hide it--when SK flamed angel6 and others for pointing out that he cheated (saying things like "WHERE'S UR PRROOF LOL UR SO FUCING DUMB GROW UP KID") and when Crimson admitted to angel that she knew SK was using exploits but she tried to deny it to the public. Now that he has come clean about his actions, things are different and time will tell what changes this brings in the long run. Hopefully a few individuals have learned a lesson from this. This is my last word on the matter.
My apologies then, Jimbo, I thought when you had stated Quote: Well put. THAT explains why he goes so far out of his way (while looking like a complete retard) to try to prove us wrong. You had included yourself in that statement by the use of the word "us" in countering my attempts to show how BHS shouldn't be held responsible (in other words, should continue to be trusted). I didn't realize that trying to prove you("us") wrong didn't actually include you, specifically.
StealthEye wrote on Thu, 18 January 2007 08:56 gamemodding, can I ask why you did not trust BI? If this has got to do with Dead6re: He joined us when there was no reason to suspect him of anything bad. After heard some things about him, partly through Crimson, partly by ourself, we decided to kick him from the team. This was still not related to him cheating. He leaked important information that was said not to be leaked multiple times. This information could be used to create worse cheats than most of you have seen (unless you made them yourself). I have created these and have never let anyone read the code, however we talked about it with the coders and apparently Dead6re felt he needed to share this information. We at that point did not think he did it on purpose, but thought a kick from BI was necessary nonetheless. This is all information I can give about this as I do not want to leak what Dead6re partially leaked. If you are doubting about BI because of something else, please tell me what that is, as I am sure that at least the admins of BI are clean and trying their best to be as good as possible to the renegade community. About Renguard, it is not possible to make a 100% cheatproof system as it runs on the client. I'm pretty sure it is being made as good as the coders can get it to work. I too think the support for the current version is not that good, however I do seriously wonder how you can say anything about the new version which is yet to be released... If you think you can make anything that works better than the next version of Renguard does, then it would be nice to see it in action too. If you think you can easily bypass/hack/whatever it when it is out, please share that information with the coders of it as it might be fixable then. As for calling "BHS" retarded for something, you shouldn't consider BHS as one and the same person. Some of team members may in your opinion be retarded, maybe the way BHS handles problems too, however you cannot say the entire team is retarded because of that. Its because the whole team have overlooked a *MASSIVE* security hole in rengaurd. in still waiting to see if it gets patched. which will be very hard. in fact, almost impossible.
gamemodding wrote on Fri, 19 January 2007 10:28 StealthEye wrote on Thu, 18 January 2007 08:56 gamemodding, can I ask why you did not trust BI? If this has got to do with Dead6re: He joined us when there was no reason to suspect him of anything bad. After heard some things about him, partly through Crimson, partly by ourself, we decided to kick him from the team. This was still not related to him cheating. He leaked important information that was said not to be leaked multiple times. This information could be used to create worse cheats than most of you have seen (unless you made them yourself). I have created these and have never let anyone read the code, however we talked about it with the coders and apparently Dead6re felt he needed to share this information. We at that point did not think he did it on purpose, but thought a kick from BI was necessary nonetheless. This is all information I can give about this as I do not want to leak what Dead6re partially leaked. If you are doubting about BI because of something else, please tell me what that is, as I am sure that at least the admins of BI are clean and trying their best to be as good as possible to the renegade community. About Renguard, it is not possible to make a 100% cheatproof system as it runs on the client. I'm pretty sure it is being made as good as the coders can get it to work. I too think the support for the current version is not that good, however I do seriously wonder how you can say anything about the new version which is yet to be released... If you think you can make anything that works better than the next version of Renguard does, then it would be nice to see it in action too. If you think you can easily bypass/hack/whatever it when it is out, please share that information with the coders of it as it might be fixable then. As for calling "BHS" retarded for something, you shouldn't consider BHS as one and the same person. Some of team members may in your opinion be retarded, maybe the way BHS handles problems too, however you cannot say the entire team is retarded because of that. Its because the whole team have overlooked a *MASSIVE* security hole in rengaurd. in still waiting to see if it gets patched. It's funny how you've suddenly taken on this 'high and mighty' attitude when it was you who made a post about leaving this community because nobody helped each other out even after they asked for it. Hypocrites are funny.
if they ask, i will tell them. and the reason i don't trust them is because it is very obious, if you are in the server owner forums you will see i was going to start something like it. but i realized it before i even started.
Quote: If you think you can easily bypass/hack/whatever it when it is out, please share that information with the coders of it as it might be fixable then. I (more or less) asked. Please PM to me the answer. Also please tell me why you did not trust BI, I would really like to know. (Not trusting BI because we did not see a renguard problem is not reasonable as BI was not involved in the renguard developement)
I don't trust BI, no real reason. mabe i will later on, i have run many FDSs with and without the BI dll and the one with the dll ran slower and lagged more. SFPS set to 60 as well.
Everything which was implemented in blackintel.dll (excluding the now unsupported release by Dead6re) is now included in scripts.dll so it should give the same lag... However I can't imagine it causing lag tbh. I'm at least happy to know that it is not for a real reason If you were talking about Dead6re's release... We don't support that any longer and we will review the code for every other BlackIntel release in the future. It was the only release not done by me I think. Sad that it is needed
warranto wrote on Fri, 19 January 2007 10:20 My apologies then, Jimbo, I thought when you had stated Quote: Well put. THAT explains why he goes so far out of his way (while looking like a complete retard) to try to prove us wrong. You had included yourself in that statement by the use of the word "us" in countering my attempts to show how BHS shouldn't be held responsible (in other words, should continue to be trusted). I didn't realize that trying to prove you("us") wrong didn't actually include you, specifically. I'm having trouble following your logic. When I said "us" I was referring to people like me, SS, spoony. Whenever we brought up any point about crimson or clanwars you always immediately attacked us for it. I don't understand what that has to do with BHS.
I said (in short) that BHS/Crimson shouldn't be deemed bad because they possess cheats for testing purposes (or the issue with SK, I forget which one now) I was told that was wrong, so I defended my point. I was insulted and the issue of me eventually becoming a lawyer got mixed in, and you came around and stated: Quote: Well put. THAT explains why he goes so far out of his way (while looking like a complete retard) to try to prove us wrong. Since the topic had to deal with BHS, and you are now agreeing with people who attack me on "defending" BHS. My statements in this thread dealt ONLY with BHS, so I could only relate your statement to that of my defense of BHS.
http://retarded.moddb.com I WIN.
gamemodding wrote on Fri, 19 January 2007 09:55 I don't trust BI, no real reason. mabe i will later on, i have run many FDSs with and without the BI dll and the one with the dll ran slower and lagged more. SFPS set to 60 as well. HAY GUYS IM A 15 YEAR OLD EXPERT AT GAMING SECURTY [HENCE MY APPROPRIATE BUT SASSY NICKNAME]. I KNOW OF A HUGE HOLE IN THEIR SOFTWARE. BUT I DONT TRUST THOSE BASTARDS AT BLACKHAND BECAUSE OF EVENTS THAT DONT EVEN CONCERN ME AND THEY HAVE CHEATS FOR TESTING! FUCKEN CHEATS . LIKE THEY SAY GUYS! ONCE A CHEATER A CHEATER 4 ALWAYS! SO YEAH. I'M NOT TELLING THEM ABOUT A SECURITY HOLE! THEY'LL JUST USE IT TO CHEAT LIKE LOGIC DENOTES also let me push my assorted projects down your throat. GenericBot v1.0435345 coded by me! only 20 more memory leaks to get rid of and the code to add that'll make it do anything! and direct computer text-sending program. it does what it says on the box guys! you can talk to someone on another computer.. oh wait i forgot about everything else that lets you do that. well my new project generic v1.0 will totally rock your socks.
TheGunrun wrote on Thu, 08 February 2007 19:52 http://retarded.moddb.com I WIN. Dude, your signature makes me howl everytime i see it. Would you mind if i put it in mine?
Ok I have to make my vote for RRenplay who made this work of art. http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&th=23079&start=0&rid=2 039
Dont forget to Read it He gets Owned.. Ok I have to make my vote for RRenplay who made this work of art. http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&th=23079&start=0&rid=2 039 luv2pb wrote on Thu, 15 February 2007 12:26 Why don't you just go play somewhere else? DUDE 4 real can u not see we are getting this problem worked out? are you BLIND read b4 you post or you will get Owned.. thank you have a nice day Later..Everyone stop postin stupid things i was talkin to someone about this and its gettin worked out I quit my Bitchin he is no long worth a breath Like i said gunner you bringing up that sled Can moderator LOCK this PLEASEEEEEEEEEEE if Fl00d wants to be man enough start a new Thread up or Unban me soo we can talk thank you. TO BE Exact if you wanna play hard ball im game little man..
I warned alot of people about fl00d3d, his bullshit/cheating community long ago its old news aand im sure by no everyone already knows. told you so +1
Atomicway wrote on Thu, 25 January 2007 15:08 TROOPRM02 FTW.
RRenplay wrote on Thu, 15 February 2007 17:20 Dont forget to Read it He gets Owned.. Ok I have to make my vote for RRenplay who made this work of art. http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&th=23079&start=0&rid=2 039 luv2pb wrote on Thu, 15 February 2007 12:26 Why don't you just go play somewhere else? DUDE 4 real can u not see we are getting this problem worked out? are you BLIND read b4 you post or you will get Owned.. thank you have a nice day Later..Everyone stop postin stupid things i was talkin to someone about this and its gettin worked out I quit my Bitchin he is no long worth a breath Like i said gunner you bringing up that sled Can moderator LOCK this PLEASEEEEEEEEEEE if Fl00d wants to be man enough start a new Thread up or Unban me soo we can talk thank you. TO BE Exact if you wanna play hard ball im game little man.. wtf?
"Re: Who's the biggest retard on Renforums?" !vote Berkut.
trooprm02 wrote on Fri, 16 February 2007 18:04 I warned alot of people about fl00d3d, his bullshit/cheating community long ago its old news aand im sure by no everyone already knows. told you so +1 Well for once I agree with troop Ur still Retarded Dont take me as a Friend Im just happy with what u Wrote Even tho Fl00d dont post here and More He has you beat troop in the retard spot but he dont post here so your the winner Renplay 4ever
Zeratul wrote on Mon, 21 June 2010 23:44
Kimb wrote on Mon, 21 June 2010 16:59 Zeratul wrote on Mon, 21 June 2010 23:44 the bump was stupid imo