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The Witch is dead. Which old Witch? The Wicked Witch! Ding Dong! The Wicked Witch is dead. Wake up - sleepy head, rub your eyes, get out of bed. Wake up, the Wicked Witch is dead. She's gone where the goblins go, Below - below - below. Yo-ho, let's open up and sing and ring the bells out. Ding Dong' the merry-oh, sing it high, sing it low. Let them know The Wicked Witch is dead! As Mayor of the Munchkin City, In the County of the Land of Oz, I welcome you most regally. But we've got to verify it legally, to see To see? If she If she? Is morally, ethic'lly Spiritually, physically Positively, absolutely Undeniably and reliably Dead As Coroner I must aver, I thoroughly examined her. And she's not only merely dead, she's really most sincerely dead. Then this is a day of Independence For all the Munchkins and their descendants If any. Yes, let the joyous news be spread The wicked Old Witch at last id dead! -------------- Saddam has been executed. kekekeke ^_^
In before obligatory Saddam was innocent and violence dosen't solve violence posts.
fl00d3d wrote on Sat, 30 December 2006 01:01 Now where is the video? It'll be shown mid-day local (UTC) time. I can only imagine it'll be available online a short time after, and then maybe onto American media coverage.
Canadacdn wrote on Fri, 29 December 2006 23:28 Saddam got permabanned from Iraq. Kicked, Banned, And owned by hackers.
Yeah rejoice that he has been executed and rightly so. But so far we have 2 sad fuckwits that want to see it???? Flood and Bal, you lower yourselfs to the gutter. You want to see piss and shit run down someones leg, to see the eyes bulging and bursting out the head, the tongue almost black in colour? You want to see the neck at a grotesque angle where the noose has broken the upper spine? Were you wanting to watch the twitching and kicking of a body in its death throes? Truly there are some sad fucks that get their kicks out of watching people die. Never did I expect to read it from both of you. You 2 are the type of people that I tell politely "Fuck Off" when I see you hanging around any of my Fires where bodies are involved or at any of the Road traffic Crashes that I attend. Seeing someone in their final death throe, is not a pretty sight nor should it be openly publicised. I see death on a regular basis, its not nice, its very traumatic to the witness, but we have to live with it, as its my job. However to want to see death, is way beyond me. Most of you accept, without question, what has happened in history, without visual proof. Im afraid you may have to accept this death, without visual proof also.
I think they should've used him for extreme human testing or something.
they should have gassed him like he did his own people.
puddle_splasher wrote on Sat, 30 December 2006 05:13 Yeah rejoice that he has been executed and rightly so. But so far we have 2 sad fuckwits that want to see it???? Flood and Bal, you lower yourselfs to the gutter. You want to see piss and shit run down someones leg, to see the eyes bulging and bursting out the head, the tongue almost black in colour? You want to see the neck at a grotesque angle where the noose has broken the upper spine? Were you wanting to watch the twitching and kicking of a body in its death throes? Truly there are some sad fucks that get their kicks out of watching people die. Never did I expect to read it from both of you. You 2 are the type of people that I tell politely "Fuck Off" when I see you hanging around any of my Fires where bodies are involved or at any of the Road traffic Crashes that I attend. Seeing someone in their final death throe, is not a pretty sight nor should it be openly publicised. I see death on a regular basis, its not nice, its very traumatic to the witness, but we have to live with it, as its my job. However to want to see death, is way beyond me. Most of you accept, without question, what has happened in history, without visual proof. Im afraid you may have to accept this death, without visual proof also. I'm guessing that his head was covered. I heard that he died "instantly". I want to see the bastard getting his just desert. Throughout history, public hangings were quite the spectacle. Men, women, and children gathered to watch convicted criminals pay the price for what they have done. I don't see them as sick in the head, and neither does history.
http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en "Long live the Iraqi resistance" ftw.
gamemodding wrote on Sat, 30 December 2006 14:52 http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en "Long live the Iraqi resistance" ftw. That's the literal translation, but it's basically the Arabic equivalent of "Vive la Résistance!" Silly people forcing ideologies on others.
xptek wrote on Sat, 30 December 2006 15:06 gamemodding wrote on Sat, 30 December 2006 14:52 http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en "Long live the Iraqi resistance" ftw. That's the literal translation, but it's basically the Arabic equivalent of "Vive la Résistance!" Silly people forcing ideologies on others. Supporting the killing of those "silly people" makes it all better, right? That's the way to draw out the war. If the Sunnis want the Americans out, let us "stabilize" the government and get out. Nobody wants to see our troops staying in Iraq. I just don't want them to leave too quickly.
j_ball430 wrote on Sat, 30 December 2006 15:19 xptek wrote on Sat, 30 December 2006 15:06 gamemodding wrote on Sat, 30 December 2006 14:52 http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en "Long live the Iraqi resistance" ftw. That's the literal translation, but it's basically the Arabic equivalent of "Vive la Résistance!" Silly people forcing ideologies on others. Supporting the killing of those "silly people" makes it all better, right? That's the way to draw out the war. If the Sunnis want the Americans out, let us "stabilize" the government and get out. Nobody wants to see our troops staying in Iraq. I just don't want them to leave too quickly. We already discussed this on IRC and it ended with you not responding to your house analogy. No need to do it here as well.
xptek wrote on Sat, 30 December 2006 15:23 j_ball430 wrote on Sat, 30 December 2006 15:19 xptek wrote on Sat, 30 December 2006 15:06 gamemodding wrote on Sat, 30 December 2006 14:52 http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en "Long live the Iraqi resistance" ftw. That's the literal translation, but it's basically the Arabic equivalent of "Vive la Résistance!" Silly people forcing ideologies on others. Supporting the killing of those "silly people" makes it all better, right? That's the way to draw out the war. If the Sunnis want the Americans out, let us "stabilize" the government and get out. Nobody wants to see our troops staying in Iraq. I just don't want them to leave too quickly. We already discussed this on IRC and it ended with you not responding to your house analogy. No need to do it here as well. Vinister was bitching, and you said you had to code, so I let it drop. I can continue it if you'd like?
Its good to see that we all agree with the "Execution". But there will still be sad fuckers that want to "SEE IT", quite literally. BAL, FLOOD??? sad fuckers
Wait until its in "YOUR FACE" and you smell the shite as it lies in a pool around them. Then you have to roll them over to let Forensics have a closer look. You boke and choke, you dry retch, boak, boak, boak, as you smell the shit again and again and again. Then your family ask, "Daddy did you have a good day at work?" As you say "I seen an Evil Bastard die by hanging, but wait!!! here are the pictures". THE GUY WAS AN EVIL BASTARD AS WERE HIS HENSCHMEN, we grieve for none of them. God will not accept them, nor will he accept those that watch, rejoice, celebrate.............Christians!!!!! I think not. I have to live with what I have seen but I dont wish to see it on purpose. Neither do I believe that you will truly get any satisfaction out of watching "The bastard die" unless you have family that died in that lone forsaken country. RIP, all you fellow warriors. It was not, to be my time to serve, Queen and Country, I served between wars, but justice has still not been served. May all the Warriors have a moment of peace in their fitfull dreams. My heart is with you all.
we all have our opionions. mine is, i wouldn't want to see someone die just because of the fact that i couldn't. if you know what this guy truly done you wouldn't care weather he had those "WOD's" because he truly deserves to die. again, this is only my opionion. puddle_splasher you have yours, j_ball430 has his. they are only opionions, they are not right or wrong.
In my opinion, anyone wanting to see pictures of Saddam's death are just as bad as the people wanting to see Steve Irwin's death. They are both human beings, and deserve a little respect.
Canadacdn wrote on Sat, 30 December 2006 17:24 In my opinion, anyone wanting to see pictures of Saddam's death are just as bad as the people wanting to see Steve Irwin's death. They are both human beings, and deserve a little respect. What if you want to see both?
j_ball430 wrote on Sat, 30 December 2006 18:00 What if you want to see both? That would put you under the category of pervert.
Memphis wrote on Sat, 30 December 2006 18:38 j_ball430 wrote on Sat, 30 December 2006 18:00 What if you want to see both? That would put you under the category of pervert. It's funny how people can label/judge others like that.
Here it is, you sick assholes. http://www.break.com/index/graphic_saddam_hussein_hanging_video.html
puddle_splasher wrote on Sat, 30 December 2006 04:13 Yeah rejoice that he has been executed and rightly so. But so far we have 2 sad fuckwits that want to see it???? Flood and Bal, you lower yourselfs to the gutter. You want to see piss and shit run down someones leg, to see the eyes bulging and bursting out the head, the tongue almost black in colour? You want to see the neck at a grotesque angle where the noose has broken the upper spine? Were you wanting to watch the twitching and kicking of a body in its death throes? Truly there are some sad fucks that get their kicks out of watching people die. Never did I expect to read it from both of you. You 2 are the type of people that I tell politely "Fuck Off" when I see you hanging around any of my Fires where bodies are involved or at any of the Road traffic Crashes that I attend. Seeing someone in their final death throe, is not a pretty sight nor should it be openly publicised. I see death on a regular basis, its not nice, its very traumatic to the witness, but we have to live with it, as its my job. However to want to see death, is way beyond me. Most of you accept, without question, what has happened in history, without visual proof. Im afraid you may have to accept this death, without visual proof also. I truely cannot accept people who like seeing people actually getting hung or executed in some type of matter. Yes, watching sci fi movies are fun for all. But when it is this serious, and simply wanting to see somone get executed, in my opinion, is sick.
Those who cannot watch death fear it. Why fear the inevitable? Those who get off on death are sick. I merely have a curiosity. I get no joy from seeing someone die. It's not fun, but it is intriguing. Think of it what you will.
puddle_splasher wrote on Sat, 30 December 2006 05:13 Yeah rejoice that he has been executed and rightly so. But so far we have 2 sad fuckwits that want to see it???? Flood and Bal, you lower yourselfs to the gutter. You want to see piss and shit run down someones leg, to see the eyes bulging and bursting out the head, the tongue almost black in colour? You want to see the neck at a grotesque angle where the noose has broken the upper spine? Were you wanting to watch the twitching and kicking of a body in its death throes? Truly there are some sad fucks that get their kicks out of watching people die. Never did I expect to read it from both of you. You 2 are the type of people that I tell politely "Fuck Off" when I see you hanging around any of my Fires where bodies are involved or at any of the Road traffic Crashes that I attend. Seeing someone in their final death throe, is not a pretty sight nor should it be openly publicised. I see death on a regular basis, its not nice, its very traumatic to the witness, but we have to live with it, as its my job. However to want to see death, is way beyond me. Most of you accept, without question, what has happened in history, without visual proof. Im afraid you may have to accept this death, without visual proof also. Maybe they will be horrified and wish they had never seen it, maybe they will think its amusing and discover that they are what society would consider a "sick" person. Either way it's their choice to as to what they want to experience. It's human nature to be curious about the unknown, especially things that are considered taboo or grotesque.
I agree that simple enough, some people might need to see out of curiousity. But I agree with puddle_splasher about the fact that seeing people die and have joy or experience "fun" out of it, is sickening.
j_ball430 wrote on Sat, 30 December 2006 11:11 I'm guessing that his head was covered. I heard that he died "instantly". I want to see the bastard getting his just desert. Throughout history, public hangings were quite the spectacle. Men, women, and children gathered to watch convicted criminals pay the price for what they have done. I don't see them as sick in the head, and neither does history. Nope, Iv'e already seen it, Just hanged. No bag over his head. Looked like something from the films tbh. Like these big time gangsta RIF Raff dudes murdering someone. And indeed, Yes. He died instantly.
Yeah, I was watching what was showing on FOX News, and he refused the hood, so they put a cloth around his neck.
I say good riddence. I'm about to enjoy every minute of the video myself
I watched it with a satisfaction that justice had been served. Frankly he got what was coming to him...just like a dictator from the not so distant past. Mussolini. I do not like death just like every normal person but I would be lying to you if I didn't watch that clip with a grin on my face.
j_ball430 wrote on Sun, 31 December 2006 00:34 Yeah, I was watching what was showing on FOX News, and he refused the hood, so they put a cloth around his neck. Can I ask, Did he get hanged in what appeared to be "A block of apartments" stair case? I'm thinking the one I watched was a fake, But it most probably wasn't.
I watched the one that was linked here, and it was different from what FOX News was showing. The quality was really really bad. There was a lot of fumbling around with the camera, too. Plus, it goes from him dropping, and then the screen goes black with a lot of talking, and then "Saddam" lying on the ground. I don't know if that's real or not. The one from FOX was on top of the stairs next to the trap door. It was higher quality, too.
He isn't lying on the ground, thats him being hung.
glad he's gone Still think they should have put him in a room and gassed him like he did his own. or maybe his family and let him watch. you know the whole eye for eye I just have no pity for sick twisted assholes who love to torture and kill others. Let them rot in hell
Saddam needed a public excution to ensure that proof is given that he is really gone. He was an evil bastard and deserved no respect from anybody, Steve Irwin on the other hand is pretty much a hero of mine and I would still be interested to view both videos assuming the family released the footage of events leading up to Steve's death as well. I don't see the problem, puddle don't really see how you can go on about people not looking at death if that's something you choose to do regularly as part of your job.
I see death as part of a job. A job that someone has to do. What I do not do, is to actively seek ways of seeing a person die. Thats is what people who are "sick in the head" do. Thats what I think of anyone looking to view Saddams death. He deserved to die, no doubting that, but to have people searching and watching his death video, well thats a pretty pathetic individual. Families of those that died at his bidding, may rejoice at the video, that is understandable. What I cannot understand is why anyone not related to the incident wants to watch. But hey!! Everyone to his own, no one will stop you viewing the video if you want to get a kick out of life, in that manner.
You get more closed-minded every day. Just because you can't understand the curiosity and interest (not enjoyment) of individuals does not mean that they are sick in the head. Judging from the posts here, it's about 50/50 as to who think it's disgusting and those who want to watch the video. Maybe "people like me" aren't so twisted, after all.
j_ball430 wrote on Sun, 31 December 2006 11:51 You get more closed-minded every day. Just because you can't understand the curiosity and interest (not enjoyment) of individuals does not mean that they are sick in the head. Judging from the posts here, it's about 50/50 as to who think it's disgusting and those who want to watch the video. Maybe "people like me" aren't so twisted, after all. Unfortunately this seems to be true. There are a lot of torrents I have seen of this too with 800-1000+ seeders. I see this as a very sad thing personally but I guess all of those people are just curious. I think the feeling are strong either way but I am going to stick with what I said earlier just because that is really how I feel.
j_ball430 wrote on Sun, 31 December 2006 02:02 I watched the one that was linked here, and it was different from what FOX News was showing. The quality was really really bad. There was a lot of fumbling around with the camera, too. Plus, it goes from him dropping, and then the screen goes black with a lot of talking, and then "Saddam" lying on the ground. I don't know if that's real or not. The one from FOX was on top of the stairs next to the trap door. It was higher quality, too. Yeah, the one I linked to here was one shot from a cell phone. The FOX one was not out yet.
[quote title=puddle_splasher wrote on Sun, 31 December 2006 08:39]Families of those that died at his bidding, may rejoice at the video, that is understandable.[quote] Couldn't you be someone who feels bad for the many hundreds or thousands of families that died at his bidding, and rejoice at the fact that some small bit of justice has been served to them? I'm kind of surprised the link to watch it is still here, I would expect it not be allowed to link to something like that on a forum.
Sniper_De7 wrote on Sun, 31 December 2006 12:37 I'm kind of surprised the link to watch it is still here, I would expect it not be allowed to link to something like that on a forum. I don't know why it would be removed. It's not really that graphic. It was taken by a camera phone, so it's not the greatest of quality in low light.
[quote title=Sniper_De7 wrote on Sun, 31 December 2006 11:37][quote title=puddle_splasher wrote on Sun, 31 December 2006 08:39]Families of those that died at his bidding, may rejoice at the video, that is understandable. Quote: Couldn't you be someone who feels bad for the many hundreds or thousands of families that died at his bidding, and rejoice at the fact that some small bit of justice has been served to them? I'm kind of surprised the link to watch it is still here, I would expect it not be allowed to link to something like that on a forum. I do indeed feel, from the bottom of my heart, for the families that suffered. Have I said anything other than that? Thats why I said "Families of those that died at his bidding, may rejoice at the video, that is understandable
mmm, sweet death.
I had to see it to believe it, But there is more bullshit about him being taunted before he got hanged. I mean, He Murdered innocent children and gays/gals because he was a bastared, And I'm glad he is gone. But I was talking to my brother and he said "two wrongs don't make a right, He should have been locked up for life, and Gaven the option to kill himself (Like a rope or a knife)" But I think it will do alot of people good knowing he is gone for good.
j_ball430 wrote on Sat, 30 December 2006 21:49 Those who cannot watch death fear it. Why fear the inevitable? Hanging is inevitable?
SpyGuy246 wrote on Sun, 31 December 2006 15:43 j_ball430 wrote on Sat, 30 December 2006 21:49 Those who cannot watch death fear it. Why fear the inevitable? Hanging is inevitable? Apparently it is when you murder thousands of your own people for the sake of keeping power and wealth into your own hands.
GoArmy44 wrote on Sun, 31 December 2006 21:53 SpyGuy246 wrote on Sun, 31 December 2006 15:43 j_ball430 wrote on Sat, 30 December 2006 21:49 Those who cannot watch death fear it. Why fear the inevitable? Hanging is inevitable? Apparently it is when you murder thousands of your own people for the sake of keeping power and wealth into your own hands. Death may have been inevitable. The point being "hanging" and inevitable. Are you suggesting that Saddam knew from the day he was born that he would die from hanging? Either you can see into the future or you talk a lot of shite. Go and wipe your mouth with some toilet tissue.
puddle_splasher wrote on Mon, 01 January 2007 03:42 GoArmy44 wrote on Sun, 31 December 2006 21:53 SpyGuy246 wrote on Sun, 31 December 2006 15:43 j_ball430 wrote on Sat, 30 December 2006 21:49 Those who cannot watch death fear it. Why fear the inevitable? Hanging is inevitable? Apparently it is when you murder thousands of your own people for the sake of keeping power and wealth into your own hands. Death may have been inevitable. The point being "hanging" and inevitable. Are you suggesting that Saddam knew from the day he was born that he would die from hanging? Either you can see into the future or you talk a lot of shite. Go and wipe your mouth with some toilet tissue. You all are so full of it, you post just to fight. J_ball never said hanging was inevitable. He said death was. So you assumed just to start a fight it was hanging that was inevitable. This whole part is getting annoying. Seems to happen a lot on these forums.
puddle_splasher wrote on Mon, 01 January 2007 03:42 GoArmy44 wrote on Sun, 31 December 2006 21:53 SpyGuy246 wrote on Sun, 31 December 2006 15:43 j_ball430 wrote on Sat, 30 December 2006 21:49 Those who cannot watch death fear it. Why fear the inevitable? Hanging is inevitable? Apparently it is when you murder thousands of your own people for the sake of keeping power and wealth into your own hands. Death may have been inevitable. The point being "hanging" and inevitable. Are you suggesting that Saddam knew from the day he was born that he would die from hanging? Either you can see into the future or you talk a lot of shite. Go and wipe your mouth with some toilet tissue. The only thing I was suggesting was that leaders who kill their own people for power and wealth tend to end up hanging...although I forgot to mention if their ever caught Oh come on Puddle...we all know who really talks shit around here.
This isnt about YOU TALKING SHIT This was about viewing someone hanging. Viewing for curiosity or thrills. However it would appear that in any adult discussion, particularly on any forum, that if an opinion conflicts with any other opinion, that said person is talking shit!! Yes thats big and brave of you. It is what we come to expect in life from a 10 year old kid, who cannot see beyond his own reasoning. Try this for thought on any subject on the forum.!!!! Who of us, percentage wise, have came away from the forum with a different belief from whence we entered? Some of us, myself included may have partially modified our ideas, thoughts and opinions, however that does not mean that my opinion has changed. So come on, feel free to reply to any topic. Only requirement is to do it in your own words, without copying it straight out of a book, verbatim. "In your own words" demonstrates that you have an understanding of your opinion. Back on topic!!! Now that some people have viewed the video out of morbid curiosity, would you watch another live video of someones death or has that curiosity been fulfilled?
puddle_splasher wrote on Tue, 02 January 2007 03:16 This isnt about YOU TALKING SHIT This was about viewing someone hanging. Viewing for curiosity or thrills. However it would appear that in any adult discussion, particularly on any forum, that if an opinion conflicts with any other opinion, that said person is talking shit!! Yes thats big and brave of you. It is what we come to expect in life from a 10 year old kid, who cannot see beyond his own reasoning. Try this for thought on any subject on the forum.!!!! Who of us, percentage wise, have came away from the forum with a different belief from whence we entered? Some of us, myself included may have partially modified our ideas, thoughts and opinions, however that does not mean that my opinion has changed. So come on, feel free to reply to any topic. Only requirement is to do it in your own words, without copying it straight out of a book, verbatim. "In your own words" demonstrates that you have an understanding of your opinion. Back on topic!!! Now that some people have viewed the video out of morbid curiosity, would you watch another live video of someones death or has that curiosity been fulfilled? Quote: It is what we come to expect in life from a 10 year old kid, who cannot see beyond his own reasoning. ...
puddle_splasher wrote on Tue, 02 January 2007 03:16 This isnt about YOU TALKING SHIT This was about viewing someone hanging. Viewing for curiosity or thrills. However it would appear that in any adult discussion, particularly on any forum, that if an opinion conflicts with any other opinion, that said person is talking shit!! Yes thats big and brave of you. It is what we come to expect in life from a 10 year old kid, who cannot see beyond his own reasoning. Try this for thought on any subject on the forum.!!!! Who of us, percentage wise, have came away from the forum with a different belief from whence we entered? Some of us, myself included may have partially modified our ideas, thoughts and opinions, however that does not mean that my opinion has changed. So come on, feel free to reply to any topic. Only requirement is to do it in your own words, without copying it straight out of a book, verbatim. "In your own words" demonstrates that you have an understanding of your opinion. Back on topic!!! Now that some people have viewed the video out of morbid curiosity, would you watch another live video of someones death or has that curiosity been fulfilled? I might watch it because it's sadaam, but if it was random inmate #44312343 from a chinese prison I wouldn't. I haven't seen it yet, but I might.
Quote: Yes thats big and brave of you. It is what we come to expect in life from a 10 year old kid, who cannot see beyond his own reasoning. Come on Puddle, we have gone through this already. You are not anymore mature than I am. Get over it. Quote: So come on, feel free to reply to any topic. Only requirement is to do it in your own words, without copying it straight out of a book, verbatim. "In your own words" demonstrates that you have an understanding of your opinion. I don't know what point you are trying to make toward me. If indeed you are directing this advise toward me, where have I posted that proves I have not followed it? Quote: Now that some people have viewed the video out of morbid curiosity, would you watch another live video of someones death or has that curiosity been fulfilled? Depends, if its a suicide or murder caught on tape I will choose not to view it out of respect. But if its an execution of a murderer who kills out of selfishness and greed or a dictator who kills thousands for self accommodation, then I have no qualms about watching it, because they deserve no respect.
This topic is not about respect. Its about the watching of a live death. However, you did answer in your own words. Does it bring some sort of closure to yourself as regards Saddam? What did you personally gain from watching a "snuff movie"? How did you feel after it? Why do you feel that way after viewing it? Why do you feel that you have to watch anymore deaths? I have not viewed the video, nor feel any need to. The guy did wrong on a massive scale, he suffered the consequences. Who will be next on the video?
I quickly skimmed through the last two pages and this is all I have to say: Seriously just 'STFU'. I can't believe some of the people on these forums that are straight up homosexual panzys. Take the dick out from between your cheeks and stop whining about every little confrontation of violence and death and observe HUMANITY. I'm reaching a boiling point (if not already @) because of people that are pacifist/hippy. Specifically... This guy tortured innocent people - how sick is that? What benefit did that bring to humanity? So when I ask to see a video of his execution I'm suddenly sick? Eye for an eye... I wouldn't have complained if he was gassed - I strongly would have preferred that. I guess that's sick too?
No one has a problem with his execution. Humanity was being rewarded. An eye for an eye, is all fine and well. But the thought is why you sick bastards wanted to watch the execution. Some people explained it as "being curious", thats fine, also. So what seems to be your problem and where do you get the "homo-pansies" from or is this more BS on your part? Pacifist hippys? Balls in mouth? Thats even more BS on your part. None of it makes a coherent statement. Then again, few of your statements ever do make sense. Thats why we call this, having a discussion and thats why we have opinions.
i couldn't watch the video just because i ouldn't see another human being die. does that make me a "homo-pansy". weather you thing i am "homosexual" i can assure you i am not. but weather i actully wanted to see the video makes me sick? then so be it...
gamemodding wrote on Wed, 03 January 2007 09:54 i couldn't watch the video just because i ouldn't see another human being die. does that make me a "homo-pansy". weather you thing i am "homosexual" i can assure you i am not. but weather i actully wanted to see the video makes me sick? then so be it... I agree with you 100%
Nah, just means you're a lightweight. I think I made my point quite clear: the guy deserved to be gassed and got off easy with a hanging. He was executed for a reason, and I wanted to see the look on his face before they put the noose around his neck ... knowing it was his last minutes ... wondering what was going on in his mind.
fl00d3d wrote on Wed, 03 January 2007 10:14 I wanted to see the look on his face before they put the noose around his neck ... knowing it was his last minutes ... wondering what was going on in his mind. Thats the point that I am trying to make. WHY do you wonder? What will it achieve for you? Where are you going to look for more videos? What did you learn about his last thoughts? Why do you personally need to know his thoughts? Had you found out his thoughts, what would you have done with them? If any of your family had been killed, directly or indirectly at his hands or his soldiers, then I can understand the feelings, but if not....... It appears that you have more than just a morbid curiosity to death. You seem to thrive on this. Seek phsycological help for your inner thoughts and feelings before it is too late.
From illiterate fucktard to psychologist in five minutes. Nice.
Just when we thought it was over, I opened the newspaper and read some tragic news. 2 kids, aged 9 from Texas and the other aged 10 from Pakistan, died after attempting to reconstruct the hanging of Saddam. It states that they had both seen the video and were killed in a tragic accident, whilst hanging from their bedroom ceiling. Yeah, I know they were young and impressionable, just as I know that you are all older and wont attempt it. But its still very tragic that 2 recorded deaths could have been prevented by not showing the video. At that age you have to question parental control, even if we cannot observe the children at all times, something needs to be done to prevent these accidents. Any ideas?
puddle_splasher wrote on Wed, 03 January 2007 15:43 fl00d3d wrote on Wed, 03 January 2007 10:14 I wanted to see the look on his face before they put the noose around his neck ... knowing it was his last minutes ... wondering what was going on in his mind. Thats the point that I am trying to make. WHY do you wonder? What will it achieve for you? Where are you going to look for more videos? What did you learn about his last thoughts? Why do you personally need to know his thoughts? Had you found out his thoughts, what would you have done with them? If any of your family had been killed, directly or indirectly at his hands or his soldiers, then I can understand the feelings, but if not....... It appears that you have more than just a morbid curiosity to death. You seem to thrive on this. Seek phsycological help for your inner thoughts and feelings before it is too late. I have spent time in the Persian Gulf (active duty military), nearly lost my life in combat, and have had friends (not family) that died due to shitheads LIKE him (not necessarily him). To me, watching the video shows me justice and that going into Iraq for no other reason but to capture and hang that dirtbag was worth it. XPtek knows all about self sacrifice and living outside the saftey of his mommy's house, so I should give two shits what he has to say about my views on true justice... puddle_splasher wrote on Fri, 05 January 2007 14:11 Just when we thought it was over, I opened the newspaper and read some tragic news. 2 kids, aged 9 from Texas and the other aged 10 from Pakistan, died after attempting to reconstruct the hanging of Saddam. It states that they had both seen the video and were killed in a tragic accident, whilst hanging from their bedroom ceiling. Yeah, I know they were young and impressionable, just as I know that you are all older and wont attempt it. But its still very tragic that 2 recorded deaths could have been prevented by not showing the video. At that age you have to question parental control, even if we cannot observe the children at all times, something needs to be done to prevent these accidents. Any ideas? Tragic, but I think at their age they're smart enough to know that it would kill them. They may have been a bit ignorant about getting out of the situation, but I definitely would NOT blame the media for their death.
I'd say to blame it on the parents but the kids probably saw it on the internet or something. Kind of why I wouldn't think the video would be allowed on the forums with kids around since if I had a kid, I wouldn't want him/her to watch it if i could try.
Sniper_De7 wrote on Fri, 05 January 2007 15:34 I'd say to blame it on the parents but the kids probably saw it on the internet or something. Kind of why I wouldn't think the video would be allowed on the forums with kids around since if I had a kid, I wouldn't want him/her to watch it if i could try. This game is rated for teens, so anybody under the age of 13 shouldn't be on here... not to mention that Renegade is about killing and destruction. If any kid that's impressionable and is on here is not the problem of the admins, mods, or the community. The fact is, we see ever worsening parenting. People scream foul when something happens to kids, but where are the parents? The media and government is not responsible for raising our children. Some of our parents, and our grandparents grew up without television and video games to assist the learning of children. Parents have it easy, and they seem to think that they shouldn't be there except to discipline their kids, so when their kids see/learn about bad things, they blame everything around them. When you point a finger, 3 are pointing back at you. Censorship is a farce.
fl00d3d wrote on Fri, 05 January 2007 14:22 XPtek knows all about self sacrifice and living outside the saftey of his mommy's house, so I should give two shits what he has to say about my views on true justice... I wasn't referring to you. Sorry I hit home, though. Last thing I'd want to do is offend our racist veteren population on Renforums. Edit: Also, yes, thousands of deaths (both our citizens and citizens of Iraq) were sure worth it to kill one old guy, fl00d3d.
xptek wrote on Fri, 05 January 2007 19:41 fl00d3d wrote on Fri, 05 January 2007 14:22 XPtek knows all about self sacrifice and living outside the saftey of his mommy's house, so I should give two shits what he has to say about my views on true justice... I wasn't referring to you. Sorry I hit home, though. Last thing I'd want to do is offend our racist veteren population on Renforums. Edit: Also, yes, thousands of deaths (both our citizens and citizens of Iraq) were sure worth it to kill one old guy, fl00d3d. Lets take what you’re saying and fill it with other people, lets say Hitler for example. "Also, yes, thousands of deaths (both our citizens and citizens of Iraq) were sure worth it to kill one old guy." Damn your right not worth it there. Now let’s see this one old guy orchestrated the killing of thousands of his own people, tortured still more. Your killing this one old guy was it really worth it?
Darkknight wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 01:29 Your killing this one old guy was it really worth it? No. Stopping genocide was worth it, but killing for the sake of 'revenge' isn't worth it at all. It doesn't take an entire army to kill one man anyway.
It wasn't about revenge you ignoramous. You're such a half-brained, under educated, inexperienced, ignorant child. Stop talking out of your ass. You have NO life experience whatsoever. If you want to give your opinion on things I'm 100% OK with that as anyone of any age has that right. But the way you present your opinions are as fact and you flame me for mine when I have justification for my beliefs as I have the life experiences you do not. It WAS worth thousands of lives to accomplish that mission because (a) all of those people swore and oath and knew ahead of time they could die in the line of duty (b) I spent 5+ years in military intelligence and have seen more "reality" than you could have possibly seen on your CNN.
xptek wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 00:48 Darkknight wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 01:29 Your killing this one old guy was it really worth it? No. Stopping genocide was worth it, but killing for the sake of 'revenge' isn't worth it at all. It doesn't take an entire army to kill one man anyway. sadam killed and tortured thousands of his own people and thats only what we know of. So yeah killing this one old guy was worth it for what he did. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39045 "we now learn that Saddam's torture chambers reopened under new management, U.S. management'' – has had ice-cold water dumped on it by a horrific new video. “he 4-plus-minute video clip, reportedly obtained from the Pentagon, captures the routine beating, torture, dismemberment and decapitation that occurred daily at the hands of Saddam's henchmen.” "savage scenes of decapitation, fingers chopped off one by one, tongues hacked out with a razor blade – all while victims shriek in pain and the thugs chant Saddam's praises." Yeah sounds like revenge don’t it. Unjustified hanging? Real shame to let this old guy die, should have kept him around for more fun times.
fl00d3d wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 02:28 It wasn't about revenge you ignoramous. You're such a half-brained, under educated, inexperienced, ignorant child. Stop talking out of your ass. You have NO life experience whatsoever. If you want to give your opinion on things I'm 100% OK with that as anyone of any age has that right. But the way you present your opinions are as fact and you flame me for mine when I have justification for my beliefs as I have the life experiences you do not. It's amusing that you complain about flaming while flaming. fl00d3d wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 02:28 (a) all of those people swore and oath and knew ahead of time they could die in the line of duty Yeah, and that sure makes every invasion okay. I'm not sure if you have other friends/family in the military, but for most of them it's definitely not worth it. Not everyone is okay with mindlessly fighting an immoral war. fl00d3d wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 02:28 (b) I spent 5+ years in military intelligence and have seen more "reality" than you could have possibly seen on your CNN. How does this make the war worth it? You need to collect your thoughts a little more, because you seem to be rambling quite a bit.
Darkknight wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 17:01 xptek wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 00:48 Darkknight wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 01:29 Your killing this one old guy was it really worth it? No. Stopping genocide was worth it, but killing for the sake of 'revenge' isn't worth it at all. It doesn't take an entire army to kill one man anyway. sadam killed and tortured thousands of his own people and thats only what we know of. So yeah killing this one old guy was worth it for what he did. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39045 "we now learn that Saddam's torture chambers reopened under new management, U.S. management'' – has had ice-cold water dumped on it by a horrific new video. “he 4-plus-minute video clip, reportedly obtained from the Pentagon, captures the routine beating, torture, dismemberment and decapitation that occurred daily at the hands of Saddam's henchmen.” "savage scenes of decapitation, fingers chopped off one by one, tongues hacked out with a razor blade – all while victims shriek in pain and the thugs chant Saddam's praises." Yeah sounds like revenge don’t it. Unjustified hanging? Real shame to let this old guy die, should have kept him around for more fun times. I do believe xptek means it wasn't worth killing him because of all the drama and revenge associated with his martyrdom. And there could have been alternative reasons to keep him alive. And fl00d3d you need to cool your jets. You don't need use almost every post you make to bring up your military career. On that note you should probably stop bringing up useless facts about the military as well: "all of those people swore and oath and knew ahead of time they could die in the line of duty" etc.
Anyone here think that it would have looked a bit more legitimate if he hadn't been yelled at and then killed by people who looked just like terrorists?
tzarmind wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 09:15 Darkknight wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 17:01 xptek wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 00:48 Darkknight wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 01:29 Your killing this one old guy was it really worth it? No. Stopping genocide was worth it, but killing for the sake of 'revenge' isn't worth it at all. It doesn't take an entire army to kill one man anyway. sadam killed and tortured thousands of his own people and thats only what we know of. So yeah killing this one old guy was worth it for what he did. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39045 "we now learn that Saddam's torture chambers reopened under new management, U.S. management'' – has had ice-cold water dumped on it by a horrific new video. “he 4-plus-minute video clip, reportedly obtained from the Pentagon, captures the routine beating, torture, dismemberment and decapitation that occurred daily at the hands of Saddam's henchmen.” "savage scenes of decapitation, fingers chopped off one by one, tongues hacked out with a razor blade – all while victims shriek in pain and the thugs chant Saddam's praises." Yeah sounds like revenge don’t it. Unjustified hanging? Real shame to let this old guy die, should have kept him around for more fun times. I do believe xptek means it wasn't worth killing him because of all the drama and revenge associated with his martyrdom. And there could have been alternative reasons to keep him alive. And fl00d3d you need to cool your jets. You don't need use almost every post you make to bring up your military career. On that note you should probably stop bringing up useless facts about the military as well: "all of those people swore and oath and knew ahead of time they could die in the line of duty" etc. Xptek only wants to flame flood. is the only reason he even posts on these forums. And its worth Sadam for what he did and what he would have continued to do if not stopped.
Darkknight wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 14:29 xptek wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 08:10 fl00d3d wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 02:28 It wasn't about revenge you ignoramous. You're such a half-brained, under educated, inexperienced, ignorant child. Stop talking out of your ass. You have NO life experience whatsoever. If you want to give your opinion on things I'm 100% OK with that as anyone of any age has that right. But the way you present your opinions are as fact and you flame me for mine when I have justification for my beliefs as I have the life experiences you do not. It's amusing that you complain about flaming while flaming. fl00d3d wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 02:28 (a) all of those people swore and oath and knew ahead of time they could die in the line of duty Yeah, and that sure makes every invasion okay. I'm not sure if you have other friends/family in the military, but for most of them it's definitely not worth it. Not everyone is okay with mindlessly fighting an immoral war. fl00d3d wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 02:28 (b) I spent 5+ years in military intelligence and have seen more "reality" than you could have possibly seen on your CNN. How does this make the war worth it? You need to collect your thoughts a little more, because you seem to be rambling quite a bit. why is your every post targeting flood. you hardly ever respond to anyone elses. you inlove with the guy? It's because fl00d3d makes it a habit of forming an opinion, but has some ridiculous reasoning for it. His views align with mine a lot of the time, but his support of his views are skewed by a lot of things, and as xptek mentioned, he ties his military experience into everything as if it's an excuse. That and xptek just thinks fl00d3d is an idiot.
Darkknight wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 14:29 Xptek only wants to flame flood. is the only reason he even posts on these forums. Yes, I registered in 2003 just for fl00d3d. You're absolutely correct.
j_ball430 wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 13:35 Darkknight wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 14:29 xptek wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 08:10 fl00d3d wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 02:28 It wasn't about revenge you ignoramous. You're such a half-brained, under educated, inexperienced, ignorant child. Stop talking out of your ass. You have NO life experience whatsoever. If you want to give your opinion on things I'm 100% OK with that as anyone of any age has that right. But the way you present your opinions are as fact and you flame me for mine when I have justification for my beliefs as I have the life experiences you do not. It's amusing that you complain about flaming while flaming. fl00d3d wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 02:28 (a) all of those people swore and oath and knew ahead of time they could die in the line of duty Yeah, and that sure makes every invasion okay. I'm not sure if you have other friends/family in the military, but for most of them it's definitely not worth it. Not everyone is okay with mindlessly fighting an immoral war. fl00d3d wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 02:28 (b) I spent 5+ years in military intelligence and have seen more "reality" than you could have possibly seen on your CNN. How does this make the war worth it? You need to collect your thoughts a little more, because you seem to be rambling quite a bit. why is your every post targeting flood. you hardly ever respond to anyone elses. you inlove with the guy? It's because fl00d3d makes it a habit of forming an opinion, but has some ridiculous reasoning for it. His views align with mine a lot of the time, but his support of his views are skewed by a lot of things, and as xptek mentioned, he ties his military experience into everything as if it's an excuse. That and xptek just thinks fl00d3d is an idiot. I can see your point and it does get annoying but i thought it was relevant to the subject. maybe a bit overdone but thought it fit xptek wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 16:24 Darkknight wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 14:29 Xptek only wants to flame flood. is the only reason he even posts on these forums. Yes, I registered in 2003 just for fl00d3d. You're absolutely correct. never said thats why you registered but almost every post i read of yours is a flame against flood. btw back to the subject. you seem to support the idea that sadam was not a bad guy? xptek wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 08:10 Yeah, and that sure makes every invasion okay. It was never an invasion till the left coined the term and the idiots followed.
Quote: It was never an invasion till the left coined the term and the idiots followed. Did the War in Iraq not involve an invasion to enter the country due to the fact that there were no troops in Iraq prior to the declaration of war? Incase you still think it's those evil unpatriotic LIEberals, here are the definitions of invasion: http://www.freesearch.co.uk/dictionary/invasion
tzarmind wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 20:16 Quote: It was never an invasion till the left coined the term and the idiots followed. Did the War in Iraq not involve an invasion to enter the country due to the fact that there were no troops in Iraq prior to the declaration of war? Incase you still think it's those evil unpatriotic LIEberals, here are the definitions of invasion: http://www.freesearch.co.uk/dictionary/invasion it was never an invasion. the liberal media called it that.
Darkknight wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 21:28 tzarmind wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 20:16 Quote: It was never an invasion till the left coined the term and the idiots followed. Did the War in Iraq not involve an invasion to enter the country due to the fact that there were no troops in Iraq prior to the declaration of war? Incase you still think it's those evil unpatriotic LIEberals, here are the definitions of invasion: http://www.freesearch.co.uk/dictionary/invasion it was never an invasion. the liberal media called it that. So... sending troops into a country WITHOUT that country's permission isn't invading? What would you call it, then? Edit: If you don't think that we invaded Iraq, then Germany didn't invade Poland, Belgium, France, Russia, Africa...
Darkknight wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 21:28 it was never an invasion. the liberal media called it that. He just showed you, that by definition, it is in invasion. This is very simple logic and has nothing to do with liberal or conservative media.
xptek wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 20:31 Darkknight wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 21:28 it was never an invasion. the liberal media called it that. He just showed you, that by definition, it is in invasion. This is very simple logic and has nothing to do with liberal or conservative media. yeah i know and i have no problem admiting when im wrong. i was thinking of something else when i said invade lol. Xptek you still havent answered my other question. Do you support Sadam and think he should have been left in power?
Darkknight wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 21:35 Do you support Sadam and think he should have been left in power? No, but I don't think it was our place to invade and remove him from power. If the United States really gave a shit about genocide we would've gotten rid of him the first time he killed his own people. Then again, if the United States gave a shit about genocide we'd probably be doing something in Darfur.
xptek wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 21:40 Darkknight wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 21:35 Do you support Sadam and think he should have been left in power? No, but I don't think it was our place to invade and remove him from power. If the United States really gave a shit about genocide we would've gotten rid of him the first time he killed his own people. Then again, if the United States gave a shit about genocide we'd probably be doing something in Darfur. if im not mistaken the first time we couldnt do that. also if the UN was really about what they say they are they would have taken care of Sadam long time ago instead of a gazillion resolutions to solve the problem. whether in right or wrong about the rest im sure the familys and people who were tortured under Sadam would disagree with you. I'm sure their happy he is gone.
im sure the US only removed his power for the oil his country has. they just made up an excuse about him having "wepons of mass destruction" yet not found
SuperFlyingEngi wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 09:31 Anyone here think that it would have looked a bit more legitimate if he hadn't been yelled at and then killed by people who looked just like terrorists? As previously stated, some of us have not looked
STOP STOP STOP The topic of "War in Iraq" has been discussed in many previous posts. Get back on topic and stop bumping the thread.
this is a discussion, it will often wonder on to diffrent topics.
gamemodding wrote on Mon, 08 January 2007 11:18 this is a discussion, it will often wonder on to diffrent topics. Yeah it's called derailing.
tzarmind wrote on Mon, 08 January 2007 10:27 gamemodding wrote on Mon, 08 January 2007 11:18 this is a discussion, it will often wonder on to diffrent topics. Yeah it's called derailing. I know it as "bumping the thread" or "hijacking"
derailing hey? sounds interesting, tell me more.
what im saying is that a discussion will wonder onto diffrent topics. have you ever had a discussion with somebody and never started talking about diffrent things?
MexPirate wrote on Mon, 08 January 2007 11:27 derailing hey? sounds interesting, tell me more.
thx for the info any news on hijacking?
MexPirate wrote on Mon, 08 January 2007 16:42 thx for the info any news on hijacking?
alot of people died in that incedent, i would not of expected anything like that from you, J_Ball.
gamemodding wrote on Mon, 08 January 2007 17:03 alot of people died in that incedent, i would not of expected anything like that from you, J_Ball. Yes, a lot of people die, and I'm constantly angered by that day. However, that proves a point... hijacking is just as bad as 9/11.