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I recently watched quite a few renegade video's on youtube and google videos and was shocked by the number of people using advantage skins Even the simpliest of things (like that spongebob timed c4, which is quite popular) gives players using a HUGE advantage. This big yellow thing sticking out (timed c4) is 100% impossible to not see, and other things like paintball gives the advantage to see where people are shooting you from easier. I was even more shocked to learn they allow suck skins on cw.cc,(and I saw the most advantaged skinning on a cw.cc ren video), and even a ren buddy of mine was using the spongebob one The point is, whats the harm is making all the server in pure mode? the most harm would be to make sure its a 100% level playing feild for everyone, and for people like me who refuse to give themselves even the slightest advantage (I dont even use recticle skin, nothing), make it so they can actually play with people who's ramjet isn't yellow and disgustingly easy to see...
trooprm02 wrote on Tue, 12 December 2006 17:04 I recently watched quite a few renegade video's on youtube and google videos and was shocked by the number of people using advantage skins Even the simpliest of things (like that spongebob timed c4, which is quite popular) gives players using a HUGE advantage. This big yellow thing sticking out (timed c4) is 100% impossible to not see, and other things like paintball gives the advantage to see where people are shooting you from easier. I was even more shocked to learn they allow suck skins on cw.cc,(and I saw the most advantaged skinning on a cw.cc ren video), and even a ren buddy of mine was using the spongebob one The point is, whats the harm is making all the server in pure mode? the most harm would be to make sure its a 100% level playing feild for everyone, and for people like me who refuse to give themselves even the slightest advantage (I dont even use recticle skin, nothing), make it so they can actually play with people who's ramjet isn't yellow and disgustingly easy to see... You make a good point. I bet all the good snipers use those bright skins that stick out. :/ They're too lazy to practice.
Pure servers were tried, but not enough people both ran RG and didn't use any skins so they died. I agree, I dislike advantage skins, but I have things like a different ret + hud and some non-advantage skins that wouldn't be allowed in pure, I think most of the people here are the same.
I use that skin that turns the stealth texture into a Matrix-esque texture, it doesn't provide much of an advantage, but it looks cool.
Couldn't agree more with you, Trooprm, except for your last words. It's already hard enough to get people to run renguard, but getting them to not use their little pesky advantage skins is near to impossible. Let me put this in capital letters to stress it: A GOOD SNIPER DOES NOT NEED BRIGHT SKINS. For the heck of it: in the rules of our server it says that bright skins = unfair advantage = cheat. It's very hard to proove/test but at least it's clear for the people of good faith and people wanting to show off screenshots . We allow the spongebob c4 though, even though I have to agree with you. If it was a skin which made it harder to see, it wouldn't be popular at all .
Most of the servers allow bright skins. Though I think they're stupid, I think it's dumb to single out clanwars.cc(Do you even play in it or did you quit after being beat?) for allowing it when it's not like they're the only ones. and no, why would spongebob c4 be a Quote: HUGE advantage Where would this give you a significant advantage? If you can't see c4 on a mct you may need glasses. In fact, most of the time I play I can't remember a single time where timed c4 would have affected me or the game. If someone threw a timed c4 on my tank, (which they'd have to be an sbh to be able to do, and it would be a stupid thing to do..) I can see it perfectly fine. The only time I would have trouble seeing it is if it disappeared into the tank like it sometimes happens and it doesn't matter what color it is it's going to go invisible.
I don't fully agree on public servers because that's where you play for fun. ( and fun could include make the game look nicer ) but those bright skins and other stuff which you know for yourself give an advantage should be disabled both pub and cw. But for tournament typ games like clanwars though I don't play no more I think that all skins should be dissalowed + sounds. To make the game more fair for both sides. Myself I don't use skins at all not even a reticle
We had that discussion on our forums too. Herr wrote: Well actually it's because the majority does not use Renguard, so they would not be able to join the server. Look at our server, when you do the !nonrgplayers command, you'll see that over 50-60% of the people does not have renguard. With us being one of the most crowded servers, think of the little servers, how would they be able to get more players when they use Pure mode.
Herr wrote on Wed, 13 December 2006 12:42 We had that discussion on our forums too. Herr wrote: Well actually it's because the majority does not use Renguard, so they would not be able to join the server. Look at our server, when you do the !nonrgplayers command, you'll see that over 50-60% of the people does not have renguard. With us being one of the most crowded servers, think of the little servers, how would they be able to get more players when they use Pure mode. well, the problem with being the top server is that you'll probably also get the most noobs, so..
JPNOD wrote on Wed, 13 December 2006 05:31 I don't fully agree on public servers because that's where you play for fun. ( and fun could include make the game look nicer ) but those bright skins and other stuff which you know for yourself give an advantage should be disabled both pub and cw. But for tournament typ games like clanwars though I don't play no more I think that all skins should be dissalowed + sounds. To make the game more fair for both sides. Myself I don't use skins at all not even a reticle Thats exactly why I brought up the cw.cc disscusion, supposibly they believe they are better than average people, but so would anybody be if the 500 sniper was purplish green, the ramjet was yellow, and etc. Even the matrix stealth thing, when you get close to a stealth, it makes it more visible and noticable And recticle, well we all know the default one is buggy and not accurate, so even switching that (or the hud) is an advantage De7, your defending the spongebob advantage c4? If im beaconing, I place the beacon, put my c4 behind, and 1 clip of my pistol to cover the c4...well, if the c4 is f'ing yellow, that idea is useless... Anyway, I know some people will say that "its my game, and I like to make it look cooler", thats ok, untill it gets to a point to where your skins give you an unfair advantage against everyone else. I also know making all server pure mode is not ethical atm, but something along these lines could (should) be implemented
trooprm02 wrote on Wed, 13 December 2006 21:27 JPNOD wrote on Wed, 13 December 2006 05:31 I don't fully agree on public servers because that's where you play for fun. ( and fun could include make the game look nicer ) but those bright skins and other stuff which you know for yourself give an advantage should be disabled both pub and cw. But for tournament typ games like clanwars though I don't play no more I think that all skins should be dissalowed + sounds. To make the game more fair for both sides. Myself I don't use skins at all not even a reticle Thats exactly why I brought up the cw.cc disscusion, supposibly they believe they are better than average people, but so would anybody be if the 500 sniper was purplish green, the ramjet was yellow, and etc. Even the matrix stealth thing, when you get close to a stealth, it makes it more visible and noticable And recticle, well we all know the default one is buggy and not accurate, so even switching that (or the hud) is an advantage De7, your defending the spongebob advantage c4? If im beaconing, I place the beacon, put my c4 behind, and 1 clip of my pistol to cover the c4...well, if the c4 is f'ing yellow, that idea is useless... Anyway, I know some people will say that "its my game, and I like to make it look cooler", thats ok, untill it gets to a point to where your skins give you an unfair advantage against everyone else. I also know making all server pure mode is not ethical atm, but something along these lines could (should) be implemented So, your making out the skins are making you lose? We aren't stopping you from personalising yours, so why are you trying to make out its bad? I can aim just as well with any reticle, i just happen to prefer one made by someone else. I don't use advantage skins, as they good only on some maps and a hindrance on others on others. Any good player would beat you without the skins anyway, alot of skins are there to make it look good more than anything. Plus, your C4 argument is complete shit, you can hear it bleeping anyway, if you can't see it you need your eyes testing. Note:Trooprm02 played 2 maps on cw.cc, lost both and made out it was the servers fault.
The beeping is no part of Renegade, it's a core patch feature. And it isn't supposed to bleep for anything except your own c4 (though it does sometimes).
trooprm02 wrote on Wed, 13 December 2006 14:27 JPNOD wrote on Wed, 13 December 2006 05:31 I don't fully agree on public servers because that's where you play for fun. ( and fun could include make the game look nicer ) but those bright skins and other stuff which you know for yourself give an advantage should be disabled both pub and cw. But for tournament typ games like clanwars though I don't play no more I think that all skins should be dissalowed + sounds. To make the game more fair for both sides. Myself I don't use skins at all not even a reticle Thats exactly why I brought up the cw.cc disscusion, supposibly they believe they are better than average people, but so would anybody be if the 500 sniper was purplish green, the ramjet was yellow, and etc. Even the matrix stealth thing, when you get close to a stealth, it makes it more visible and noticable And recticle, well we all know the default one is buggy and not accurate, so even switching that (or the hud) is an advantage De7, your defending the spongebob advantage c4? If im beaconing, I place the beacon, put my c4 behind, and 1 clip of my pistol to cover the c4...well, if the c4 is f'ing yellow, that idea is useless... Anyway, I know some people will say that "its my game, and I like to make it look cooler", thats ok, untill it gets to a point to where your skins give you an unfair advantage against everyone else. I also know making all server pure mode is not ethical atm, but something along these lines could (should) be implemented I think you're stupid if you think it helps you more than it hurts you. Besides, what are the chances of that affecting a game? 1 in 300? That's a rough estimate, and it probably wouldn't affect it if you could just LOOK. It's not hard to see, not even if there's bullet holes around it and the ground is matching/wall/whatever is matching. So even if it did, and it happened one out of 300 games, you said it's a SIGNIFICANT ADVANTAGE. I don't use skins, except a reticle which i've used for the past 2 years, it doesn't give me an advantage except that by now I'm just used to that one than I am with the custom reticle. Before that reticle, yes, I used the custom one, for about 2 and a half years. I did use skins, though it was a hotwire one and it wasn't a bright skin. Oh, and I also used a PT skin (Try saying that one's an advantage - I double-dare you, unless you think taking an extra second to absorb the PT is an advantage)
I started this after watching some video's players made, nothing to do with 1 particle moment.. I also never even played 1 SINGLE game on cw.cc, I started a thread asking for a cw, instead got a 3 page spam thread And, i also played a funwar against a player on cw.cc (not related), and I bet him (map=mesa)
Quote: I was even more shocked to learn they allow suck skins on cw.cc,(and I saw the most advantaged skinning on a cw.cc ren video) There's a clanwars.cc ren video? Quote: Thats exactly why I brought up the cw.cc disscusion, supposibly they believe they are better than average people, but so would anybody be if the 500 sniper was purplish green, the ramjet was yellow, and etc. I can be reasonably confident in saying the best players at clanwars.cc probably don't use and certainly don't need advantage skins. trooprm02 wrote on Thu, 14 December 2006 09:47 I also never even played 1 SINGLE game on cw.cc, I started a thread asking for a cw, instead got a 3 page spam thread You already had my msn and I said you could ask me for clan games anytime, did you? H2O gave you their msns, did you ask them? Quote: And, i also played a funwar against a player on cw.cc (not related), and I bet him (map=mesa) That's not how he tells it, so perhaps you have a screenshot?
EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Wed, 13 December 2006 09:42 Herr wrote on Wed, 13 December 2006 12:42 We had that discussion on our forums too. Herr wrote: Well actually it's because the majority does not use Renguard, so they would not be able to join the server. Look at our server, when you do the !nonrgplayers command, you'll see that over 50-60% of the people does not have renguard. With us being one of the most crowded servers, think of the little servers, how would they be able to get more players when they use Pure mode. well, the problem with being the top server is that you'll probably also get the most noobs, so.. so..
in troops mind, if you ped beacon in a server that has the End Game Beacon option turned off, you still win anyway; even if your too retarded to check before hand. btw i still had a huge point advantage before he left. so, according to everybody elses rules (and excluding your own because they make no sense whatsoever) i won that game.
This is just a joke, right? If the skin was such a thread to the integrity of the game (to the extent that it gave someone a 'cheat-like' advantage) ... why wouldn't RenGuard block it? I understand they don't know about every skin, recticle, etc. out there ...... but they know about a LOT of modifications to the game and have not blocked them. Some things are merely cosmetic while others enhance your gameplay. If you were a tribe from the congo going up US special forces, do you think they'd be using the same technology? No, it'd be a slaughter. But what if that same technology was available for either side to use? Then it would be fair, right? Well that is exactly how I see Renegade. Some things like the "tracer pack" which help illuminate bullets and splash are extremely realistic and are used in real life. And since anyone can download it, its just a matter of finding it. I played my first 2+ years of Renegade with absolutely NO skins or modifications whatsoever. None. Now I have a few that I would not play without, simply because I enjoy them. Does that make me less skilled? No. I honestly think I could own the same person with or without the skins. Further, when brining clanwars.cc players into the argument, don't assume that skins have anything to do withe fact that they're better than a non-clanwars.cc player. These people live and breath DAILY competition. Whereas the rest of the community that is "clanning" may only play one or two clanwars a week. If that. Their experience is far higher, and many of them abandoned the community/pub servers because the competition became a joke. It has nothing to do with skins. Back to the main topic, I think some skins do give you a better advantage ... but not a "cheat like" advantage that one should complain about. If there was a skin or modification that was not publically available and gave someone a clear advantage - that would be close to cheating in my eyes. So until the anticheats block these modifications/skins ... or until a server tells me I cannot use them there ... "PLAY BALL!"
trooprm02 wrote on Thu, 14 December 2006 16:47 I started this after watching some video's players made, nothing to do with 1 particle moment.. I also never even played 1 SINGLE game on cw.cc, I started a thread asking for a cw, instead got a 3 page spam thread And, i also played a funwar against a player on cw.cc (not related), and I bet him (map=mesa) For starters, you called the entire community noobs, not a good start is it? And i remember seeing people saying "i've added you but your not online..." Convenient? (note: as Wiggles said, you didn't beat him at all, you were getting owned and you left.)
Troopr, when you say you owned the only clanwars.cc player you played, is it like when you said trooprm## (insert numbers here) owned me on your server, in the sense of losing both games? No beef wiggles, you know I you.
MrWiggles wrote on Thu, 14 December 2006 14:01 in troops mind, if you ped beacon in a server that has the End Game Beacon option turned off, you still win anyway; even if your too retarded to check before hand. btw i still had a huge point advantage before he left. so, according to everybody elses rules (and excluding your own because they make no sense whatsoever) i won that game. You should have taken a screenshot of him saying that if you nuke the pedestal with ped off you still deserve the win, even in 1v1s. I would probably make it my desktop.
Well.. most of the clan players would still own up any time with or without the skins so thats not really a valid argument, but I do think it will just give that little more that could give a bit of advantage. It's still how you look at it though because on some maps being on Nod or GDI can be an advantage. But if you play this game for fun pimping up your arty in blue for the heck of it then I don't see whats wrong with that. In tournament based/clan games and it was to be for serious/ competitive play then skins/modified sounds should not be allowed just so both sides get the same stuff to start off with. But as long as most people on clanwars play for (fun and competitive wise) I don't think thats going to happen. And for some hardcore cw players with or without skins that's really not going to matter at all. Because tactics really do have nothing to do with skins.
Ok - what I skins used: Stealth Tron Tank:The skin of UNSTEALTHED tank was tron - like. Kinda harder to see it than normal red-shoot-me-with-portable-ion-cannon. X-com GDI skins - yes they are bright! But the only reason I have them - is what I like X-com:UFO - and it looked awesome on GDI NOD camuflage skin - makes NOD infantry to be darker - looked awesome - and didn't gave any advantages! Tron Stank looked awesome - I mean - it finaly had good colors - and it didn't annoy the eyes!
Acey#GW wrote on Thu, 14 December 2006 15:17 trooprm02 wrote on Thu, 14 December 2006 16:47 I started this after watching some video's players made, nothing to do with 1 particle moment.. I also never even played 1 SINGLE game on cw.cc, I started a thread asking for a cw, instead got a 3 page spam thread And, i also played a funwar against a player on cw.cc (not related), and I bet him (map=mesa) For starters, you called the entire community noobs, not a good start is it? And i remember seeing people saying "i've added you but your not online..." Convenient? (note: as Wiggles said, you didn't beat him at all, you were getting owned and you left.) I added like 6 guys on msn, i asked them ALL "1vs1?" nothing.. Later, the only person who even said anything after was wiskey who later PM'd me about my request. BTW, wiggles was betting me in 1vs1 (only in points) I had MUCH better k/d, and I eventually won by end game beacon, and I got the SS's, ill dig 'em up and post them
id love to see them, considering they dont exist and all.
trooprm02 wrote on Mon, 18 December 2006 10:38 Acey#GW wrote on Thu, 14 December 2006 15:17 trooprm02 wrote on Thu, 14 December 2006 16:47 I started this after watching some video's players made, nothing to do with 1 particle moment.. I also never even played 1 SINGLE game on cw.cc, I started a thread asking for a cw, instead got a 3 page spam thread And, i also played a funwar against a player on cw.cc (not related), and I bet him (map=mesa) For starters, you called the entire community noobs, not a good start is it? And i remember seeing people saying "i've added you but your not online..." Convenient? (note: as Wiggles said, you didn't beat him at all, you were getting owned and you left.) I added like 6 guys on msn, i asked them ALL "1vs1?" nothing.. Later, the only person who even said anything after was wiskey who later PM'd me about my request. BTW, wiggles was betting me in 1vs1 (only in points) I had MUCH better k/d, and I eventually won by end game beacon, and I got the SS's, ill dig 'em up and post them hahahahahahahaha you fucking n00b - wtf does a k/d ratio have to do with a 1v1 match. Don't act like you tried to get a match on cw.cc you got flamed to hell and ran away scared, pretty sure you could easily get a match tonight or any night if you actually wanted it.
apparantly winning isnt really important. its how many times you kill the other person and try to stay alive that really matters!!!
trooprm02 wrote on Mon, 18 December 2006 09:38 BTW, wiggles was betting me in 1vs1 (only in points) I had MUCH better k/d I think this sentence shows how much you know about the game. Anyone at the top level of play knows kills+deaths count are utterly insignificant compared to actually winning the game. Reminds me of when you said I was 1v1'ing wiggles (when the truth is I simply joined the server after he'd been there longer), I said it isn't a fair 1v1 because he already had an orca before I joined, and you said it didn't make a difference (just lol at that) trooprm02 wrote on Mon, 18 December 2006 09:38 and I eventually won by end game beacon, and I got the SS's, ill dig 'em up and post them Wasn't endgame beacon off, as it should be in any small game? So you didn't win at all, then, did you?
according to him, end game beacon SHOULD have been on, therefore he wins; even though the game didnt end afterward.
I think you should get the rules changed Spoony, your understanding of this game and how you win it obviously flawed. lol.
I placed then beacon on the ped, and I had to leave soon after the single game, which I told him. Anyway, he went in the hon, couldnt do anything about it, it went off and because I knew at that point I had already won (because of the end game beacon delay), I had left. 10 sec later, he went on msn to tell me end game beacon was off (althought im not even entirely sure if thats true), and i have a SS of just that. Anyway this is all besides the point the really question is how can we employ a "pure mode"?
trooprm02 wrote on Tue, 19 December 2006 15:42 I placed then beacon on the ped, and I had to leave soon after the single game, which I told him. Anyway, he went in the hon, couldnt do anything about it, it went off and because I knew at that point I had already won (because of the end game beacon delay), I had left. 10 sec later, he went on msn to tell me end game beacon was off (althought im not even entirely sure if thats true), and i have a SS of just that. Anyway this is all besides the point the really question is how can we employ a "pure mode"? haha you are such a moron. You leaving a game does not consitute you winning it, pure mode is pointless for most people as it excludes people who don't use renguard or use skins etc, which is probably over 50% of the community.
trooprm02 wrote on Wed, 13 December 2006 14:27 Anyway, I know some people will say that "its my game, and I like to make it look cooler", thats ok, untill it gets to a point to where your skins give you an unfair advantage against everyone else. It's my game and I will make it look how i want to... Only problem is, I make the game an Unfair advantage AGAINST myself. I will show you some pictures of what I mean later, but all of my skins are darker, there is no "RED" in ANY of the Nod infantry and vehicals (yes even the Stank) infact they are dark brown to black cameo, and all of the GDI infantry and vehicals have a darker yellow / brownish Cameo to them, all fo the guns have the normal skins to them except some of them look different when I am holding them in 1st person, but in 3rd person they look normal. I found myself getting a little too good at spotting vehicals so i did this, now, the Stealth effect is the only thing that has changed, so little though, its still a white effect, just some more lightining. But i made everything harder, i figured I could give myself a break on something
lol wow troop, your fucking retarded. the beacon went off and before it did you said something gay like "ahaha GG", then when the game didnt end your like "WTF, what kind of gay server is this?" then i told you end game beacon was turned off and you said "i still win anyway", then you left. THEN, we talked on msn and you made a complete moron out of yourself, just as you are now.
I won? I have SS of this? oh ok, thnx
MrWiggles wrote on Mon, 01 January 2007 13:33 then fucking post it you retard. Ive got 500+ SS in my Renegade/Data folder atm, if you remember the month (i know it was this year), I could do a search by date..
Stop the flaming and get this thread back on topic before it is locked!
i dunno, its your ss, if you have it (which you don't because it doesn't exist), quit lying and post it.
trooprm02 wrote on Mon, 01 January 2007 21:52 MrWiggles wrote on Mon, 01 January 2007 13:33 then fucking post it you retard. Ive got 500+ SS in my Renegade/Data folder atm, if you remember the month (i know it was this year), I could do a search by date.. plx read it kthnx. use the magnifier if you cant read/see it, kthnx
trooprm02 wrote on Mon, 01 January 2007 23:08 trooprm02 wrote on Mon, 01 January 2007 21:52 MrWiggles wrote on Mon, 01 January 2007 13:33 then fucking post it you retard. Ive got 500+ SS in my Renegade/Data folder atm, if you remember the month (i know it was this year), I could do a search by date.. plx read it kthnx. use the magnifier if you cant read/see it, kthnx No posting bullshit that isn't true and u can't back up plx.
MexPirate wrote on Tue, 02 January 2007 07:53 trooprm02 wrote on Mon, 01 January 2007 23:08 trooprm02 wrote on Mon, 01 January 2007 21:52 MrWiggles wrote on Mon, 01 January 2007 13:33 then fucking post it you retard. Ive got 500+ SS in my Renegade/Data folder atm, if you remember the month (i know it was this year), I could do a search by date.. plx read it kthnx. use the magnifier if you cant read/see it, kthnx No posting bullshit that isn't true and u can't back up plx.
Can't someone LOCK THIS THREAD???!!?!!?!?
zip all the SSs you did that year an i will personally go through them. i bet its not there.
gamemodding wrote on Wed, 03 January 2007 18:33 zip all the SSs you did that year an i will personally go through them. i bet its not there. You got paypal? Ill do that for a fee, a lil wager (me syaing it does exsist vs you saying it doesnt). PLUS, its like i said 500+ SS's, so packing that plus uploading it? Idc, just I don't wanna do it all for nothing... the easiet way like i also sayed, would be for him just to tell me the month, and Ill search by date, but he wouldnt' obviously do this cuz then i would post it
trooprm02 wrote on Thu, 04 January 2007 12:23 gamemodding wrote on Wed, 03 January 2007 18:33 zip all the SSs you did that year an i will personally go through them. i bet its not there. You got paypal? Ill do that for a fee, a lil wager (me syaing it does exsist vs you saying it doesnt). PLUS, its like i said 500+ SS's, so packing that plus uploading it? Idc, just I don't wanna do it all for nothing... the easiet way like i also sayed, would be for him just to tell me the month, and Ill search by date, but he wouldnt' obviously do this cuz then i would post it you are so fucking queer dude, you lost and everyone knows it - find a screenshot that says otherwise and I will paypal you $10.
MexPirate wrote on Thu, 04 January 2007 12:30 trooprm02 wrote on Thu, 04 January 2007 12:23 gamemodding wrote on Wed, 03 January 2007 18:33 zip all the SSs you did that year an i will personally go through them. i bet its not there. You got paypal? Ill do that for a fee, a lil wager (me syaing it does exsist vs you saying it doesnt). PLUS, its like i said 500+ SS's, so packing that plus uploading it? Idc, just I don't wanna do it all for nothing... the easiet way like i also sayed, would be for him just to tell me the month, and Ill search by date, but he wouldnt' obviously do this cuz then i would post it you are so fucking queer dude, you lost and everyone knows it - find a screenshot that says otherwise and I will paypal you $10. You serious? can i get some assurance? you prob wont..
MrWiggles wrote on Sun, 31 December 2006 21:30 then i told you end game beacon was turned off and you said "i still win anyway", then you left. Hahahahaha!
trooprm02 wrote on Thu, 04 January 2007 12:39 MexPirate wrote on Thu, 04 January 2007 12:30 trooprm02 wrote on Thu, 04 January 2007 12:23 gamemodding wrote on Wed, 03 January 2007 18:33 zip all the SSs you did that year an i will personally go through them. i bet its not there. You got paypal? Ill do that for a fee, a lil wager (me syaing it does exsist vs you saying it doesnt). PLUS, its like i said 500+ SS's, so packing that plus uploading it? Idc, just I don't wanna do it all for nothing... the easiet way like i also sayed, would be for him just to tell me the month, and Ill search by date, but he wouldnt' obviously do this cuz then i would post it you are so fucking queer dude, you lost and everyone knows it - find a screenshot that says otherwise and I will paypal you $10. You serious? can i get some assurance? you prob wont.. sure thing, I said it infront of the community didn't I, problem is that ss doesn't exist because you are full of shit.
ROFL, if i actually belived you I would prob take it. the thing is, I dont think your welfare is 20$/month, so i want to make sure you can afford it. Or else you won't be able to pay for internet to play a video game at age 22 (ROFL)
right, nothing to do with the fact you have no ss because you leave any game you are losing whilst saying you win.
ok, an image at 1024x800 would be 150kb . (about) times 150 by 500 = 75000Kb = 75Mb tar.bz2 it to get it to about 25Mb il even write a php script to upload it to my server. it would take about 15 mins (max, unless you have a really slow upload speed) to upload. so it would take 16 mins of your time. im not paying for that.
lol wow. if you can pull that ss out of your ass, ill fucking pay you $100. btw, the month was either september or november. there, i just narrowed it down for you. if you cant find it there, try december. good luck looking like a retard again.
Why are you living Trooprm02? There's no need to.
http://www.trpmclan.com/Intro.swf
Creating that intro must've taken the upmost talent.
MrWiggles wrote on Tue, 09 January 2007 02:02 lol wow. if you can pull that ss out of your ass, ill fucking pay you $100. btw, the month was either september or november. there, i just narrowed it down for you. if you cant find it there, try december. good luck looking like a retard again.
Only the desperate noob clans @ clanwars.cc use the gay advantage skins like laser pistol and bright everything. And when they do show a ss and people notice, they usually get bitched at. To try and say everyone @ clanwars.cc is good because of advantage skins is like saying everyone who plays in a public server sucks because they don't use spongebob c4. The fact is us clanwars.cc players are extremely good because of our experience, not because of some gay skin. We're against cheats/advantages just as much as you are, if not more. Not sure where Troopshitter got the idea that the original reticle is 'buggy and inaccurate'. In fact me and IsItInYou (the best player in Ren) both use the original reticle. He plays in completely pure mode, and I only use a few skins myself(mostly tank bullet and splash skins).
[quote title=gotwhiskey wrote on Wed, 10 January 2007 14:12](the best player in Ren)quote] thats a bit pretentious
I use the default rec too. I doubt many other players do tho (which is obvious after seeing everyone's SS). Anyway, it so obvious that other rec skins makes it more accurate (or atleast easeir to work with). I remember a whole topic somewhere on these forums talking about exactly that. And my cw.cc comment was how those players there think they are good, BUT they are also BY FAR have the MOST skinned clients of anyone else
trooprm02 wrote on Thu, 11 January 2007 10:10 Anyway, it so obvious that other rec skins makes it more accurate (or atleast easeir to work with). Thats definitely not true... for example, kill is the best player in renegade and has the best pistol i've ever seen (not to mention he's an amazing sniper, definitely in the top 3 of ren) and he uses the original reticle.
Um, rec is 1 thing, everything else is another. I have surfed the cw.cc forums some long time ago, and EVERYSINGLE SS i saw i was like wtf. I do know that some (if not alot) of public players also have very skined clients, but a higher % of cw.cc players do. If you want more proof, I remember 1 instance in perticulair. It was a player (whose name i forgot) but he got caught with radar hack on field. I saw a video from that same player and im pretty sure he used every advnatage skin ever created. Im also sure if I did a little more surfing, i'd find more SS's
That player, T3MP0ZIA or whatever, is a douchebag. It's no wonder that he cheated and it's no wonder that he'd have stupid skins like that. I used the default reticle for a good 3 years and I was a really good player at the time, only since like 2 years ago did i just pick up another reticle. I think it's just more of the fact that once you get used to a reticle, you want to use it - not that it gives an advantage. I don't even think i really even notice my reticle anymore just the little dot which is probably all you really need. (To see if you'll hit the wall or hill with a tank or whatever) Anyways yeah anyone who uses skins like all one color are just lame. I don't know how well the aimbot works for all the colors it's just why would you think you're cool if someone uses an all color skin and thinks you *might* be cheating? i'd rather earn the accusation by having the ability to just snipe as well enough. Not that i care about sniping any more.
troop, once again your retardation reaches new levels, for one there is currently a discussion about banning all such skins in cw.cc and even playing matches on pure servers. With or without skins though the players are good because they have skill, not because they have some stupid skins.
trooprm02 wrote on Thu, 11 January 2007 10:17 I remember 1 instance in perticulair. It was a player (whose name i forgot) but he got caught with radar hack on field. I saw a video from that same player and im pretty sure he used every advnatage skin ever created. Yeah, um, he was a cheater and has been banned for a couple months now. The good players at clanwars.cc don't use advantage skins, we think they're gay. I know ur just trying to 'diss' clanwars.cc as much as possible because you got owned there and think it 'must be cause they cheat and use advantages' - when in reality hardly anybody uses those gay skins, and if anyone is caught cheating they're banned instantly. As mex said, Spoony is contemplating banning advantage skins all together.
im still waiting on that ss where i supposedly lost...
don't be stupid, a pro-snowboarders time is too valuable to spend looking for screenshots, give him a few hundred dollars and it might be worth his time.
MrWiggles wrote on Thu, 11 January 2007 21:35 im still waiting on that ss where i supposedly lost...
You guys seen Hitmans Data folder? Fuck me, No wonder he rapes my hottie, Stupid w3d model.. Seen his GDI Soldier? Omfg thats just noob.. And he's known to be a good cw.cc player as I believe..
rofl, hitman isnt really known as a good cw.cc player... he's not bad but most people don't consider him as good :S
Ralphzehunter wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 02:26 rofl, hitman isnt really known as a good cw.cc player... he's not bad but most people don't consider him as good :S Meh, lol.. Can we aggree he is noob?
lol hed prolly sit all over you alex, even without skins
Tunaman wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 02:26 rofl, hitman isnt really known as a good cw.cc player... he's not bad but most people don't consider him as good :S OMFGOMFOGMFOGM :@
Okay troop that intro just dropped my opinion of you to something which I did not imagine possible... -Ghost-
I use lots of skins for ummm HACKS, ADVANTAGE< lol just kidding. the only skins I do use are customs whhere the costumes are redone slightly, like hotwire, I lowered her pants to waist level because they went up to her abdomin, and just stretched her shirt down, other skins I use are the bets backpacks where in the original renegade mendoza, flame, and chem soldiers all had unique backpacks, mendoza also smokes a cigar which actually is animated every 10-15 seconds he puffs out smoke, i have a silver SBH skin which makes the sbh well umm silver, I use silver guns also which makes sbh and lcg silver (i made my own lcg because the ones you download look white) my lcg gunner is also silver, I photoshopped him to be silver like my sbh....other than that I dont really use anything advantage wise...everything is the same or just a different color.
AoBfrost wrote on Wed, 19 September 2007 14:37 everything is the same or just a different color. ...and that colour may be yellow? bright green? sky blue?
No, what I mean is a different color, but still not advantage, advantage is where you replace the whole skin with a single color, or photoshop it to be really bright, mine are basically the same as the original renegade, just redone to my liking. (aka silver sbh rather than red)
so those pesky SBHs meet your ramjet