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As one who's been DDoS'd by Kholdstare on a N00BSTORIES SERVER....
...who has friends who have been DDoS'd by him as well, and have brought the issue to light on N00bstories.com only to see it brushed under the carpet, I'd like to say, "Fuck you." Goodbye.
Re: As one who's been DDoS'd by Kholdstare on a N00BSTORIES SERVER....
It's impossible for him to DDoS you on my server. That doesn't even make sense.
If you were attacked after pissing him off while you were both playing on my server, that might make more sense. HOWEVER, I do NOT understand what exactly you expect me to do about it. I have told him time and time again to NOT do that shit but when he gets angry, he'll do anything he can to get back at you. He can change IPs and usernames at will, and his IP range is also used by regulars on my server such as Gr8bigguy, Nas680, and oh yeah, ME! I have asked nicely, I have yelled... he doesn't stop. I don't ever condone this sort of behavior but I am completely helpless to stop it, so don't blame it on me or hold me responsible for something I can't do anything about.
I bet Kholdstare gets a whole lot of pussy...saddest nerd ever.
JohnDoe wrote on Mon, 18 September 2006 19:31 I bet Kholdstare gets a whole lot of pussy...saddest nerd ever. and that's coming from you! do you call everyone a nerd? does it make you feel big?
Ive had a long history of problems with khold. But Crimson herself can not control his actions, only he can, word of advice, dont start shit with him, learn to keep your mouth shut. For those of you who blame crimson for this shit, Your in the wrong, just the same as khold is for attacking you. SO if your problem is getting attacked by khold, take it up with him. he is NOT n00bstories, just becuase he runs in the n00bstories irc, doesnt make him a rep. for n00bstories.
lol.. just lol. First you attack Crimson, fail, so it's time to move on, right? When was the last time I played on the n00bstories servers for more then a few days, it's been at least a year if not longer. I'm sorry that you still have your panties in a wad because I apparently ddos'd you. I'll get right on caring about that after I finsih my BA and if work scehdule permits.
It's the Internet, learn to deal with it.
Ma1kel wrote on Mon, 25 September 2006 07:17 It's the Internet, learn to deal with it. someone needs to be DDoS'd how the fuck can you deal with it when you're whole internet is down? idiot
Jaspah wrote on Mon, 25 September 2006 14:42 Ma1kel wrote on Mon, 25 September 2006 07:17 It's the Internet, learn to deal with it. someone needs to be DDoS'd how the fuck can you deal with it when you're whole internet is down? idiot You're being DDoS'd, why get all bent out of shape (especially if you have DSL/dial-up). Attacks aren't eternal, so just wait for them to be over with unless you have a dynamic IP, in which case you just have to unplug your modem and plug it back in. Voila! New IP.
With static Internet you also have to un-plug your modem 45-60 minutes before it gets a new IP-adress. (Either by un-plugging the PC or modem, I forgot which one) You can also spoof your MAC-adress and with some kind of connections you can just flush your DNS to get a new IP assigned. Google for it or search Wikipedia.
Just a few comments from a security professional: (1) I highly doubt anyone here has DDoS'd anyone. A simple script kiddie DoS perhaps ... but not distributed. (2) Dynamic IPs are usually renewed from the DHCP server the same as previous unless you have a MAC spoofer or an ISP that recycles IPs within your netblock. (3) Static IPs should never take 45-60 minutes to reacquire. Perhaps you're thinking of the time it takes for your line to acquire a lost DSL signal or for your ISP to re-establish sync with your hardware; but the IP has nothing to do with it. (4) Denial of Service is actually one of the easiest things to do in the entire realm of "hacking" and is so easy that over 90% of the people use it do it because of the fact that the "ease of use" to "effect of use" ratio is so good. Anyone that DoS's someone is a straight up lamer wannabe 'h4xx0r'. (5) DoS is also one of the easiest things to block depending on your network layout. Most ISPs can detect a port flood or malicious packets via Intrusion Detection Systems (NIDS) and auto-block the source IP for a period of time. If you're being attacked somewhere other than home -- or more specifically at a place where the burden of security is on your own shoulders -- you can implement IPsec or a software firewall (HIDS) on your server that will prevent most floods. [Reference: Snort is free!] I can't honestly say what is going on here because I had no part of it. But if someone is DoSing a game server or a gamer becaue of an internet disagreance that is pretty low and sad. I'll be more than willing to give security suggestions to anyone that continues to have problems with wannabe script kiddie hackers.
just out of curiosity, if i created a program that sends packets out as fast as the computer could handle to a specific ip address. how many computers would it take to shutdown...ooo...lets say renegadeforums.com. it would be a missive coincidence if this site got DDOSed right after an answer, i hope it doesn't happen.
help-linux wrote on Mon, 25 September 2006 18:36 just out of curiosity, if i created a program that sends packets out as fast as the computer could handle to a specific ip address. how many computers would it take to shutdown...ooo...lets say renegadeforums.com. it would be a missive coincidence if this site got DDOSed right after an answer, i hope it doesn't happen. It would depend on the connection of the computers. It'd obviously take more 56k computers to do the same damage as a few high-speed connections. Plus, it depends on what the target can handle. A site on a 10mbps connection will handle less than a 100mbps connection.
Not to mention their host would probably be able to stop you before it went anywhere. Not really a good choice of 'example' if you ask me. O.o
the17doctor wrote on Mon, 18 September 2006 13:53 JohnDoe wrote on Mon, 18 September 2006 19:31 I bet Kholdstare gets a whole lot of pussy...saddest nerd ever. and that's coming from you! do you call everyone a nerd? does it make you feel big? well kholdstare is a nerd, he can get someones ip and start ddos it really easily, hes like a superhackernerd
it is not hard to get someone ip address
fl00d3d wrote on Tue, 26 September 2006 00:01 Not to mention their host would probably be able to stop you before it went anywhere. Not really a good choice of 'example' if you ask me. O.o not even if 1 million computers worldwide was attacking with all their mite?
help-linux wrote on Mon, 25 September 2006 19:39 fl00d3d wrote on Tue, 26 September 2006 00:01 Not to mention their host would probably be able to stop you before it went anywhere. Not really a good choice of 'example' if you ask me. O.o not even if 1 million computers worldwide was attacking with all their mite? The way the server that these forums are hosted on are modified enough to where it'd block most, if not all, of an attack. Other sites, they'd probably be more vulnerable. Good luck at trying to hit a server from gigeserver, though. Wouldn't do a damn thing.
help-linux wrote on Mon, 25 September 2006 19:39 fl00d3d wrote on Tue, 26 September 2006 00:01 Not to mention their host would probably be able to stop you before it went anywhere. Not really a good choice of 'example' if you ask me. O.o not even if 1 million computers worldwide was attacking with all their mite? He would have to compromise all of those systems first. Which I highly doubt would happen. "Robo" well kholdstare is a nerd, he can get someones ip and start ddos it really easily, hes like a superhackernerd (1) DDoS = Distributed Denial of Service (ie. what HL is talking about above). Not going to happen by some n00bie on these forums. Especially solo. ^^ (2) Like I also said above, just because someone can point and click flood a computer doesn't mean that they're a "superhackernerd". Even giving the person the benefit of the doubt that they are running something command line or through a coordinated IRC kind of thing, that's still pretty easy. I hope you were joking about calling him a hacker. Not to mention a real hacker wouldn't waste their time on petty things such as a game server. Hackers are a dying breed; and most of survivors are just script kiddies with hopes of being l33t.
fl00d3d, Robo is an idiot. I'm sure he's just trying to be annoying by posting random bullshit trying to get under someone's skin. Either that or he's just that stupid.
...or maybe it's both
robo truly is stupid. He's also a compulsive liar and a cheater.
Robo has been banned off cw.cc for radar hack. If anything, you're just as nerdy for cheating dude.
Acey#GW wrote on Tue, 26 September 2006 20:06 Robo has been banned off cw.cc for radar hack. If anything, you're just as nerdy for cheating dude. ius the radar hack one that let's you see all units no matter of the server settings? cos if it is, it is the most useless hack ever, as the radar in renegade is useless due to it only able to see friendlies. even in APB where you can see both teams units, it is still never used.
How is that hack "useless"? You can know where everyone is, know where everyone is doing, stop every stealth tank or tech sneak, and it completely ruins the game. It totally takes away the sneaking aspect of Renegade. It is just as bad as any other cheat there is, only its very very hard to detect.
the17doctor wrote on Tue, 26 September 2006 21:09 Acey#GW wrote on Tue, 26 September 2006 20:06 Robo has been banned off cw.cc for radar hack. If anything, you're just as nerdy for cheating dude. ius the radar hack one that let's you see all units no matter of the server settings? cos if it is, it is the most useless hack ever, as the radar in renegade is useless due to it only able to see friendlies. I don't think you thought that through very well.
Wait wait wait, back on topic. This is about how much of a packet kiddie/hacker/someone who doesn't get any sex I am.
Well done, the first step in solving a problem is realising you have one.
MaidenTy1 wrote on Fri, 29 September 2006 08:25 Well done, the first step in solving a problem is realising you have one. Righto Skipper!
No need to get angry again... like you did in virtually every single game I ever saw you in... to the point where the only way of releasing your rage was ddosing some poor kid.
Sorry, I guess I need to become a script kiddie like you two to get some respect around here
MaidenTy1 wrote on Sat, 30 September 2006 23:07 Sorry, I guess I need to become a script kiddie like you two to get some respect around here Whatever you say skipper!
Yoshimitsu wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 05:47 You should follow your own advice.
Kholdstare wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 02:02 MaidenTy1 wrote on Sat, 30 September 2006 23:07 Sorry, I guess I need to become a script kiddie like you two to get some respect around here Whatever you say skipper! OK. Post a thread in General Discussion stating that you're never, ever ddosed anyone. Go on... Make yourself a compulsive liar as well as a lonely, wretched, script kiddie geek.
I was also victim to his shenanigans a while back.
Personal insults get you far, Spoony! So does assuming things, too. Unless you actually know that Kholdstare is a lonely geek, refrain from assuming that. It just makes you look like the idiot many people say you are.
j_ball430 wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 13:48 Personal insults get you far, Spoony! With Kholdstare it does... considering what a nervous breakdown it drives him toward, which is a result of sorts. j_ball430 wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 13:48 So does assuming things, too. Unless you actually know that Kholdstare is a lonely geek, refrain from assuming that. ...there's no "assuming" about it. When kholdstare would start an argument with some random guy in the N00bstories servers for no reason whatsoever, and completely go berserk if they said ANYTHING in reply and ddos the poor kid, there's really no "assume" about it. j_ball430 wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 13:48 It just makes you look like the idiot many people say you are. Though not because of anything *I* did... there's just a disproportionately large percentage of arrogant, brain-dead gimps in this community.
MaidenTy1 wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 14:59 j_ball430 wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 13:48 Personal insults get you far, Spoony! With Kholdstare it does... considering what a nervous breakdown it drives him toward, which is a result of sorts. I'd like proof of that... MaidenTy1 wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 14:59 j_ball430 wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 13:48 So does assuming things, too. Unless you actually know that Kholdstare is a lonely geek, refrain from assuming that. ...there's no "assuming" about it. When kholdstare would start an argument with some random guy in the N00bstories servers for no reason whatsoever, and completely go berserk if they said ANYTHING in reply and ddos the poor kid, there's really no "assume" about it. That reflects on his personal life... how? MaidenTy1 wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 14:59 j_ball430 wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 13:48 It just makes you look like the idiot many people say you are. Though not because of anything *I* did... there's just a disproportionately large percentage of arrogant, brain-dead gimps in this community. True, but assuming things and insulting him only makes them think they're right.
j_ball430 wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 14:08 MaidenTy1 wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 14:59 ...there's no "assuming" about it. When kholdstare would start an argument with some random guy in the N00bstories servers for no reason whatsoever, and completely go berserk if they said ANYTHING in reply and ddos the poor kid, there's really no "assume" about it. That reflects on his personal life... how? I'm sorry, but when you get SO ANGRY at someone arguing back when you started the argument in the first place, and the only way you can resolve your rage is by ddosing someone, you fail at life. Utterly. MaidenTy1 wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 14:59 True, but assuming things and insulting him only makes them think they're right. I don't see why insulting someone as pathetic and wretched as Kholdstare makes me an idiot.
MaidenTy1 wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 16:47 j_ball430 wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 14:08 MaidenTy1 wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 14:59 ...there's no "assuming" about it. When kholdstare would start an argument with some random guy in the N00bstories servers for no reason whatsoever, and completely go berserk if they said ANYTHING in reply and ddos the poor kid, there's really no "assume" about it. That reflects on his personal life... how? I'm sorry, but when you get SO ANGRY at someone arguing back when you started the argument in the first place, and the only way you can resolve your rage is by ddosing someone, you fail at life. Utterly. You didn't answer my question, at all. How does this reflect on his personal life? I'm not talking about his character. I'm asking you how this makes him lonely. How do you know that he doesn't go out and have a normal life including relations with women? Just because he acts like a complete prick online doesn't mean that his life is void of relationships. Of course, I can't say that you're wrong, either. I don't know him personally. MaidenTy1 wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 16:47 j_ball430 wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 14:08 True, but assuming things and insulting him only makes them think they're right. I don't see why insulting someone as pathetic and wretched as Kholdstare makes me an idiot. Because not all people agree with you...
MaidenTy1 wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 19:59 j_ball430 wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 13:48 It just makes you look like the idiot many people say you are. Though not because of anything *I* did... there's just a disproportionately large percentage of arrogant, brain-dead gimps in this community. Gimp Gimp is a usually derogatory term used to refer to a (normally male) sexual submissive person, typically dressed in black leather (or rubber) and wearing a bondage hood or mask of the same material. This apparel emphasises sexuality by drawing attention to the crotch and chest, and also sexually objectifies the wearer. Sadomasochistic practice often features in the notion of the gimp, with a partnership between gimp and dominatrix or dominant. news just in; spoony's latest attempt at getting respect on the community failed
the17doctor wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 16:30 Gimp Gimp is a usually derogatory term used to refer to a (normally male) sexual submissive person, typically dressed in black leather (or rubber) and wearing a bondage hood or mask of the same material. This apparel emphasises sexuality by drawing attention to the crotch and chest, and also sexually objectifies the wearer. Sadomasochistic practice often features in the notion of the gimp, with a partnership between gimp and dominatrix or dominant. ...yes, that's where I was going with that... the17doctor wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 16:30 news just in; spoony's latest attempt at getting respect on the community failed Oh, the humanity.
MaidenTy1 wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 19:59 j_ball430 wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 13:48 It just makes you look like the idiot many people say you are. Though not because of anything *I* did... there's just a disproportionately large percentage of arrogant, brain-dead gimps in this community. now then, you call people 'brain-dead gimps' and think people hate you for no reason? personally, i see the internet as one big game and couldn't care less; but doing this is fun
the17doctor wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 17:43 now then, you call people 'brain-dead gimps' and think people hate you for no reason? You've got it backwards. They hate me because they're brain-dead gimps.
j_ball430 wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 14:48 Personal insults get you far, Spoony! So does assuming things, too. As does defending known script kiddies who DDoS other players who're better than them!!! "GRR THAT GUY KILLED MEE!! IM GONNA HACK HIS COMPUTER!! THAT'LL SHOW HIM THAT IM BETTER THAN HE IS!!!!" *cry cry cry* Yup, he has such an active, busy social life that he just doesn't have the time to make up all these little scripts and hacks since he just can't keep the ladies off his nuts! Oh, and Crimson, just in case you missed this in that other thread in the General Discussion forum, here's my answer to your question: Quote: HEY CRIMSON: YOU KEEP ASKING ME WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO ABOUT HIM; LET ME ASK YOU WHAT THE HELL YOU DO WITH BLATANT CHEATERS ON YOUR SERVERS---THAT'S RIGHT, YOU FUCKING BAN THEM; THIS ONE SHOULD BE A NO-BRAINER, SWEETIE Would you like me to make the connection for you?
Hydra wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 20:46 j_ball430 wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 14:48 Personal insults get you far, Spoony! So does assuming things, too. As does defending known script kiddies who DDoS other players who're better than them!!! "GRR THAT GUY KILLED MEE!! IM GONNA HACK HIS COMPUTER!! THAT'LL SHOW HIM THAT IM BETTER THAN HE IS!!!!" *cry cry cry* Yup, he has such an active, busy social life that he just doesn't have the time to make up all these little scripts and hacks since he just can't keep the ladies off his nuts! Maybe I've gone a little liberal, or maybe it's just that I've matured a little, too, but I fail to see where any of this excuses the other. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't one saying go, "two wrongs don't make a right"? I thought so. I'm not excusing Kholdstare's actions for any DDoS that he may have been involved in (if any). However, it still doesn't automatically make it sensible to attack him because of it. Until any of it can be proven, it's just speculation. Whether or not it's correct.
Is it childish to attack someone's personal life based on what he does on the internet? In most cases, yes. Does that mean that he needs you to help defend his reputation when he is, supposedly, a big enough boy to defend himself? No. If you're gonna help defend this asshole's reputation, then where were you when Blazer called me a hypocrite? (EDIT: That's worded a little harsher than I intended, but I really don't know how else to word it. Just don't take it personally.)
Things have changed since 2004, you know.
Do you have some magical way to ban someone who can change their IP address at will, SWEETIE? And before you suggest banning an IP range, let me remind you that at least 6 of my regular players are use the same IP range as he has access to, including MYSELF.
And the fact that you don't want to ban him because we both Kholdstare. But seriously, I haven't seen anything kiddieish from Kholdstare in a long time.
Well, that too... but even when he is and was being a pain in the ass I had no real way of keeping him off my server if I didn't want him there.
What is this topic really about? Somone saying somone DoS'ed them via a game server? (laughs inside..)
Matix wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 22:15 What is this topic really about? Somone saying somone DoS'ed them via a game server? (laughs inside..) Someone DDoSed someone else because of a game. The victim felt the need to inform the rest of the Internet.
Back on topic I say! This thread is about ME! ME ME ME ME ME! EDIT: Also, I forgot what I was going to type so this random text will have to do.
the17doctor wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 23:30 MaidenTy1 wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 19:59 j_ball430 wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 13:48 It just makes you look like the idiot many people say you are. Though not because of anything *I* did... there's just a disproportionately large percentage of arrogant, brain-dead gimps in this community. Gimp Gimp is a usually derogatory term used to refer to a (normally male) sexual submissive person, typically dressed in black leather (or rubber) and wearing a bondage hood or mask of the same material. This apparel emphasises sexuality by drawing attention to the crotch and chest, and also sexually objectifies the wearer. Sadomasochistic practice often features in the notion of the gimp, with a partnership between gimp and dominatrix or dominant. news just in; spoony's latest attempt at getting respect on the community failed You really don't have a clue do you?
Matix don't stick your nose into any conversations on these forums, please. People here don't care for cheaters either, you fag. Neron Hosting, ftw *gag*
It's very strange how Xptek first vigourously denies the fact Khold's ever ddosed anyone when the truth is he did it on a daily basis, and now suddenly "he's changed"... I guess it's never easy to condemn your allies no matter how wretched and pathetic they are
MaidenTy1 wrote on Mon, 02 October 2006 19:44 It's very strange how Xptek first vigourously denies the fact Khold's ever ddosed anyone when the truth is he did it on a daily basis, and now suddenly "he's changed"... I guess it's never easy to condemn your allies no matter how wretched and pathetic they are Wow skipper, you can read minds!
Quote: Matix don't stick your nose into any conversations on these forums, please. People here don't care for cheaters either, you fag. Neron Hosting, ftw *gag* Couldnt have said it better myself. So what, khold ddosed you, OMFG lifes gonna end. Dont come running around crying cuz you got hit by someone. It happends everyday to alot of people. Get over it, move on, unplug your computer, and read a book or STFU and then unplug your computer and read a book.
MaidenTy1 wrote on Mon, 02 October 2006 20:44 Bla bla bla condem Internet allies or something I find it funny that you take everything I say out of context. Let's review, shall we? Apparently Kholdstare was involved in DDoS activities before I met him. In the past two years or so, I'm never seen him DDoS anyone (and I've pissed him off before). Unlike yourself, I don't make a huge fucking deal out of peoples' pasts so it's really a non-issue for me. It's a very simple concept.
xptek wrote on Tue, 03 October 2006 07:15 MaidenTy1 wrote on Mon, 02 October 2006 20:44 Bla bla bla condem Internet allies or something I find it funny that you take everything I say out of context. Let's review, shall we? Apparently Kholdstare was involved in DDoS activities before I met him. In the past two years or so, I'm never seen him DDoS anyone (and I've pissed him off before). Unlike yourself, I don't make a huge fucking deal out of peoples' pasts so it's really a non-issue for me. It's a very simple concept. Re: Bash on Crimmy time! General Discussion Mon, 02 October 2006 21:37 Re: Bash on Crimmy time! General Discussion Mon, 02 October 2006 16:04 Re: Bash on Crimmy time! General Discussion Mon, 02 October 2006 15:41 Re: Bash on Crimmy time! General Discussion Sun, 01 October 2006 21:05 Re: Bash on Crimmy time! General Discussion Sun, 01 October 2006 21:04 Re: Bash on Crimmy time! General Discussion Sun, 01 October 2006 20:58 Re: Bash on Crimmy time! 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That proves what point? Oh right, none. Also, I've pissed off Kholdstare, at least, once over the past two years, and in that time frame, the only two people that THREATENED to DDoS me were Mackin and wilost0rm. Nope, Khold didn't even THREATEN me, let alone attack me. Yeah, he's a big player with DDoS...
j_ball430 wrote on Tue, 03 October 2006 08:21 Also, I've pissed off Kholdstare, at least, once over the past two years, and in that time frame, the only two people that THREATENED to DDoS me were Mackin and wilost0rm. Nope, Khold didn't even THREATEN me, let alone attack me. Yeah, he's a big player with DDoS... In other words he tried really, really hard to get your IP but couldn't.
MaidenTy1 wrote on Tue, 03 October 2006 11:54 j_ball430 wrote on Tue, 03 October 2006 08:21 Also, I've pissed off Kholdstare, at least, once over the past two years, and in that time frame, the only two people that THREATENED to DDoS me were Mackin and wilost0rm. Nope, Khold didn't even THREATEN me, let alone attack me. Yeah, he's a big player with DDoS... In other words he tried really, really hard to get your IP but couldn't. Alright, so let's use that logic for a second. You're trying to get my IP, but you can't. How do I know this? Because you disagree with me and you haven't attacked me yet nor have you threatened me.
j_ball430 wrote on Tue, 03 October 2006 18:24 Alright, so let's use that logic for a second. You're trying to get my IP, but you can't. How do I know this? Because you disagree with me and you haven't attacked me yet nor have you threatened me. that might actually be worth reading if I had a compulsive habit of ddosing people on a daily basis every time I started an argument and anyone said something back... but unlike Kholdstare, I have never had such a habit.
MaidenTy1 wrote on Tue, 03 October 2006 12:36 j_ball430 wrote on Tue, 03 October 2006 18:24 Alright, so let's use that logic for a second. You're trying to get my IP, but you can't. How do I know this? Because you disagree with me and you haven't attacked me yet nor have you threatened me. that might actually be worth reading if I had a compulsive habit of ddosing people on a daily basis every time I started an argument and anyone said something back... but unlike Kholdstare, I have never had such a habit. Like xptek, I have not seen any evidences of Kholdstare DDoSing people. I haven't seen any threats from him, either. At least, not in the time that I've actually "known" him.
j_ball430 wrote on Tue, 03 October 2006 12:39 MaidenTy1 wrote on Tue, 03 October 2006 12:36 j_ball430 wrote on Tue, 03 October 2006 18:24 Alright, so let's use that logic for a second. You're trying to get my IP, but you can't. How do I know this? Because you disagree with me and you haven't attacked me yet nor have you threatened me. that might actually be worth reading if I had a compulsive habit of ddosing people on a daily basis every time I started an argument and anyone said something back... but unlike Kholdstare, I have never had such a habit. Like xptek, I have not seen any evidences of Kholdstare DDoSing people. I haven't seen any threats from him, either. At least, not in the time that I've actually "known" him. Exactly. You have no proof of him DDoSing anything. Come back when you do.
I liek pakets. P.S. Hi skipper! How's your incredibly flawed argument coming along? EDIT: Forgot to add Mr. Green smiley.
MaidenTy1 wrote on Sun, 01 October 2006 14:13 Post a thread in General Discussion stating that you're never, ever ddosed anyone. Go on... Make yourself a compulsive liar as well as a lonely, wretched, script kiddie geek.
Kholdstare wrote on Tue, 03 October 2006 17:26 I liek pakets. P.S. Hi skipper! How's your incredibly flawed argument coming along? EDIT: Forgot to add Mr. Green smiley.
Comrade wrote on Mon, 02 October 2006 12:44 They see me rollin' They hatin'
Patrolin' Spoony: If you paid attention you would have known that he has previously DDoSed people when he was actually in the business. Guess reading is too much to ask of you though.
xptek wrote on Tue, 03 October 2006 22:22 Patrolin' Tryin' to catch me ridin' dirty
xptek wrote on Tue, 03 October 2006 21:22 Spoony: If you paid attention you would have known that he has previously DDoSed people when he was actually in the business. Guess reading is too much to ask of you though. Then why did you say he hadn't? *rollseyes* I'm perfectly aware he used to ddos people all the time - his hissy bitch-fits in the N00bstories servers were rather hard to miss. Why, then, did you say he's never ddosed anyone?
MaidenTy1 wrote on Tue, 03 October 2006 23:34 xptek wrote on Tue, 03 October 2006 21:22 Spoony: If you paid attention you would have known that he has previously DDoSed people when he was actually in the business. Guess reading is too much to ask of you though. Then why did you say he hadn't? *rollseyes* I'm perfectly aware he used to ddos people all the time - his hissy bitch-fits in the N00bstories servers were rather hard to miss. Why, then, did you say he's never ddosed anyone? When the fuck did he (or I, for that matter) ever deny him DDoSing anybody? We've merely said that he hasn't in (over) 2 years.
j_ball430 wrote on Tue, 03 October 2006 22:36 When the fuck did he ever deny him DDoSing anybody? We've merely said that he hasn't in (over) 2 years. ...what forums have you been reading?
MaidenTy1 wrote on Tue, 03 October 2006 23:34 xptek wrote on Tue, 03 October 2006 21:22 Spoony: If you paid attention you would have known that he has previously DDoSed people when he was actually in the business. Guess reading is too much to ask of you though. Then why did you say he hadn't? *rollseyes* I'm perfectly aware he used to ddos people all the time - his hissy bitch-fits in the N00bstories servers were rather hard to miss. Why, then, did you say he's never ddosed anyone? Why can't you understand simple logic. "I've never seen him DDoS anyone" does not mean "He has never DDoSed anyone at any point in time." But then again, what does this have to do with your little anti-Crimson crusade anyway? I mean, we could always go on about your involvement with olddust.
MaidenTy1 wrote on Tue, 03 October 2006 23:51 j_ball430 wrote on Tue, 03 October 2006 22:36 When the fuck did he ever deny him DDoSing anybody? We've merely said that he hasn't in (over) 2 years. ...what forums have you been reading? What logic have you been ignoring?
xptek wrote on Wed, 04 October 2006 11:54 But then again, what does this have to do with your little anti-Crimson crusade anyway? ...the fact you choose to describe any of this as "your little anti-Crimson crusade" proves how mind-bogglingly stupid you truly are... xptek wrote on Wed, 04 October 2006 11:54 I mean, we could always go on about your involvement with olddust. I'm sorry, "involvement"? What involvement? I'm not about to say he doesn't have a botnet and he's never ddosed anyone, like you did with Kholdstare (though you were, of course, either lying or just not very bright) but there is no "involvement" as far as I'm concerned. Oh, he gave me access to a botnet round about the time Cyberpunk and his little bitch followers used that unkickable exploit crap, but I never used it. I think that's about the closest you can tie me to a ddos attack.
MaidenTy1 wrote on Wed, 04 October 2006 00:00 I'm sorry, "involvement"? What involvement? I'm not about to say he doesn't have a botnet and he's never ddosed anyone, like you did with Kholdstare (though you were, of course, either lying or just not very bright) but there is no "involvement" as far as I'm concerned. Oh, he gave me access to a botnet round about the time Cyberpunk and his little bitch followers used that unkickable exploit crap, but I never used it. I think that's about the closest you can tie me to a ddos attack. I just find it funny that you're bitching about Kholdstare being a "vile script kiddie" yet you ran(run?) non00bs with one. Quote: ...the fact you choose to describe any of this as "your little anti-Crimson crusade" proves how mind-bogglingly stupid you truly are... 'K.
xptek wrote on Tue, 03 October 2006 23:16 I just find it funny that you're bitching about Kholdstare being a "vile script kiddie" yet you ran(run?) non00bs with one. No, you don't, because you never, ever mentioned this part before even though you've always known it. Meaning it's nothing to do with the topic - you've just run out of anything relevant to defend Kholdstare with, but can't stomach the thought of to actually stop posting.
j_ball430 Like xptek, I have not seen any evidences [sic] of Kholdstare DDoSing people Does this count as evidence for you? How about this? And are you gonna tell me that Kholdstare isn't the guy Crimson's talking about here? I would include what Spoony said about Crimson's "pet bulldog" comment, but you wouldn't take that as evidence because Spoony's the one saying it. And, I would have included my OWN account of how he DDoS'd ME on a RenAlert server, but you probably wouldn't believe me, either, since you don't think my reputation is worth defending. Is that enough "evidences" for you? jschultz9 Couldnt [sic] have said it better myself. So what, khold ddosed you, OMFG lifes [sic] gonna end. Dont [sic] come running around crying cuz [sic] you got hit by someone. It happends everyday to alot of people. Get over it, move on, unplug your computer, and read a book or STFU and then unplug your computer and read a book. (You like being redundant, don't ya?) Do you not realize you can make the same argument to justify cheating? Let me reword it for you (while cleaning up the blatant grammatical errors that any fourth grader could see and correct): "Couldn't have said it better myself. So what, Khold cheated in the server, OMFG life's gonna end! Don't come running around crying because someone cheated in the server. It happens everyday to so many other servers out there. Get over it, move on, unplug your computer, and read a book or STFU." I hope for the sake of your credibility that you have never encouraged the use of Renguard. Otherwise, congratulations! You're a hypocrite! Crimson Do you have some magical way to ban someone who can change their IP address at will, SWEETIE? I'm going to admit that I don't know all that much about coding, dynamic IP addresses, IRC bots, server-side scripts, and all that technical kind of crap, but I'm gonna make a few logical assumptions and just go from there. You say he can change his IP address at will. If I understand basic "hacking" correctly, changing your IP at will is one of the first basic things any budding script kiddie learns how to do. I'm also going to assume that Kholdstare isn't the only person in the entire world who knows how to change his IP address. Are you going to tell me, though, that in all the years previous to Rengaurd's release that you have NEVER, not even ONCE, encountered a cheater who, like Kholdstare, knew how to change his IP address? Are you saying that there has never been a cheater, using Final Renegade or Big Head or whatever, who knew how to change his IP address to evade his bans? Frankly, I find all that a little hard to believe. I don't even care if there's a permanent way to ban him, though. What I care about is whether or not the N00bstories administration (read: you) actually tries to do something about it. It may be nearly impossible to ban the guy permanently because he is able to pull all this IP address changing bullshit and whatnot; all that I care is that N00bstories is going to be a place that doesn't tolerate DDoS'ing assholes like that and will ban him on sight every single time he tries to rejoin. He'd eventually get bored of trying to rejoin only to get banned again, and the problem would subside at least for a while. What I see coming from you, however, is a lack of any action whatsoever. In fact, you're making excuses for allowing the guy to do whatever the hell he wants. That's like the police making excuses for the serial convenience store robber who they just can't seem to catch. Sure, the guy may be difficult to catch and extremely good at what he does, but ya know what? The cops have an obligation to society to try to catch that criminal and end his long string of crimes. What you're doing is allowing Kholdstare to rob as many stores as he wants, and sitting back and saying, "I can't catch him because he runs too fast." I don't give a shit! He just stole all the money out of my cash register and held me up at gunpoint! GET AFTER HIM! I make that analogy assuming you are not, in fact, in bed with the enemy. If (or should I say "since" based on the mounting evidence against you?) you're really no better than he is, or are in some sort of alliance with him, then I can understand perfectly why you're not doing anything to punish him. I guess you could say the police are corrupt.
Hydra j_ball430 Like xptek, I have not seen any evidences [sic] of Kholdstare DDoSing people Does this count as evidence for you? How about this? Okay, notice the dates of those threads? August and September... of 2004. Sure, this post-dates the "over 2 years that I've known him", but it still is OVER 2 years ago. Hydra And, I would have included my OWN account of how he DDoS'd ME on a RenAlert server, but you probably wouldn't believe me, either, since you don't think my reputation is worth defending. Nick, that's complete bullshit. I am not going to defend you on something that I don't agree with. My whole argument has been that he hasn't DDoSed anybody recently. The most recent evidence you've given me is something from September (note, it's October now) of 2004 (it's 2006 now). Hydra If I understand basic "hacking" correctly, changing your IP at will is one of the first basic things any budding script kiddie learns how to do. I'm also going to assume that Kholdstare isn't the only person in the entire world who knows how to change his IP address. You can generally just change your IP by resetting your modem...
Quote: I hope for the sake of your credibility that you have never encouraged the use of Renguard. Otherwise, congratulations! You're a hypocrite! Err.. where does anything he say suggest that supporting Renguard would make him a hypocrite?
Hydra wrote on Wed, 04 October 2006 12:02 I would include what Spoony said about Crimson's "pet bulldog" comment, but you wouldn't take that as evidence because Spoony's the one saying it. ...to this I'll just briefly add that I said Crimson made that comment - she denied it over and over and over again, then later admitted that she did, in fact, refer to Khold as her "pet bulldog". Yet that's no reason to think I was right in saying that... so keep demanding more evidence to prove what's right in front of you, guys!
MaidenTy1 wrote on Wed, 04 October 2006 13:39 Hydra wrote on Wed, 04 October 2006 12:02 I would include what Spoony said about Crimson's "pet bulldog" comment, but you wouldn't take that as evidence because Spoony's the one saying it. ...to this I'll just briefly add that I said Crimson made that comment - she denied it over and over and over again, then later admitted that she did, in fact, refer to Khold as her "pet bulldog". Yet that's no reason to think I was right in saying that... so keep demanding more evidence to prove what's right in front of you, guys! You just don't get it, do you? I don't give a fuck what Crimson has said. I don't care if she's telling the truth or covering something up to save her ass. That doesn't apply here. There is no hardcore evidence (that I've seen) to link Kholdstare to DDoSing people within the past 2 years. Give me evidence of any recent attacks, and then maybe I'll change my mind.
I can't believe it took me this long to think of this, but here's my revelation of the day: Okay, say you are online claiming that you're 15. Everybody then thinks different and calls you a liar, and then you say, "okay, fine, I'm 23," but in reality, you're actually 15. Just because you confessed to "lying" and then "told the truth" doesn't necessarily prove anything. Who says that this isn't the case here? Maybe Crimson's just trying to get all of you fucktards to shut the fuck up? What does she have to lose in this community by admitting to doing something wrong? Nothing, really. People are still going to use RenGuard, play on n00bstories, and post on these forums. JUST LIKE THEY HAVE DONE, DO, AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO. So what if she loses trust in some people? The people that she "loses trust" with are people that never really trusted her in the first place. In all seriousness, IT'S THE FUCKING INTERNET. For all you know, I could be some 300-pound fat chick with a beard. Does it matter? Nope. I could say that I'm jacking off while typing this. I could claim that I want your dick. IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER. Play the game. Post on the forums. Quit making a big deal out of issues.
MaidenTy1 wrote on Wed, 04 October 2006 10:06 xptek wrote on Tue, 03 October 2006 23:16 I just find it funny that you're bitching about Kholdstare being a "vile script kiddie" yet you ran(run?) non00bs with one. No, you don't, because you never, ever mentioned this part before even though you've always known it. Meaning it's nothing to do with the topic - you've just run out of anything relevant to defend Kholdstare with, but can't stomach the thought of to actually stop posting. In case you haven't noticed, you weren't previously bitching about "vile script kiddies" while associating yourself with one. It's called irony. I figured you would be able to grasp that.
Hydra wrote on Wed, 04 October 2006 13:02 j_ball430 Like xptek, I have not seen any evidences [sic] of Kholdstare DDoSing people Does this count as evidence for you? How about this? And are you gonna tell me that Kholdstare isn't the guy Crimson's talking about here? Why are you quoting Crimson there? She can't be trusted. Remember?
j_ball430 Okay, notice the dates of those threads? August and September... of 2004. Sure, this post-dates the "over 2 years that I've known him", but it still is OVER 2 years ago. And weren't you the one who said a guy who escaped from jail 30 years ago should go back to pay pennance for what he did, even though he started a (supposedly) new life as a law-abiding citizen? Why the sudden change of heart? Quote: Nick, that's complete bullshit. I am not going to defend you on something that I don't agree with. Whoa, whoa, wait... so you're not going to jump in to defend my reputation when I have a shit-ton more integrity in my testicles than Kholdstare has in his ego... yet you're willing to take heat for the reputation of a known hacker... simply because you don't agree with me??? Y'know, you can defend a person's reputation and still disagree with what he says. It's easy. All you have to say is, "Hey, dude, you can't call him a hypocrite because yada yada yada...." That's all there is to it. You don't have to say you agree with what I say or that you think I'm right, but you can defend a person's integrity at the same time. Again, I ask, why did you jump in to defened a hacker's reputation yet stand by while I was lambasted by Blazer? Quote: You can generally just change your IP by resetting your modem... Oh, so it's even EASIER to change your IP address and thus evade bans! If that's the case, then there has got to be another way to permanently ban people besides simply banning their IPs. Otherwise, you couldn't ban shit because everyone would be able to evade them way too easily. Warranto Err.. where does anything he say suggest that supporting Renguard would make him a hypocrite? Like I demonstrated, one could make a similar argument in the case of cheating. Here, he's insulting me for taking issue with someone DDoS'ing me in a N00bstories Renalert server, saying I should "get over it" and "it happens every day" and whatnot. You could construct a similar scenario with a cheater in a N00bstories server pre-Renguard days. If I complain that so-and-so was cheating in the N00bstories server, and he comes along and says that cheating is an everyday occurrance and that I shouldn't demand anything be done about it, he can't therefore go out and support any action taken against cheaters by-and-large, such as Renguard. We could just use his own arguments against him and tell him to "STFU and read a book" when he's being cheated against in a game instead of supporting him in demanding that something be done about those cheaters. j_ball430 You just don't get it, do you? I don't give a fuck what Crimson has said. I don't care if she's telling the truth or covering something up to save her ass. So, are you saying that you "don't give a fuck" about what a person says he's going to do, and when he does another? Or when he says he's not going to do something, and goes right ahead and does it? Do you not give a shit when you're fucking lied to? Unless I'm getting you confused with someone else, that should be something that you, of all people, Jake, should care dearly about. Quote: People are still going to use RenGuard, play on n00bstories, and post on these forums. Yes, a dwindling, ever-smaller number of people. It's shit like this, though, that drives people away. I've explained how it worked in one of my posts in that "Bash the shit out of Crimmy" thread, though, and since this is only "THE FUCKING INTERNET" and "DOESN'T MATTER," I'm not going to be bothered looking it up for you. xptek Why are you quoting Crimson there? She can't be trusted. Remember? Wow, develop that wit, and you could write for SomethingAwful.
i can see she_ball is stil here acting like a dicko still.just like before never stops bothring others just thats wat he dose bothers other never dose anything on his own just bothers others.
Hydra wrote on Wed, 04 October 2006 16:54 Wow, develop that wit, and you could write for SomethingAwful. Nah, I was just wondering why you're quoting someone when it has been established that they're not trustworthy at all. It'd be really cool if you could stop dodging the question and find some actual proof (read: not random bitching on forums, and not stupid confession posts. Actual logs that show there was in fact a DDoS that took place).
Hey, I'm not saying that Khold doesn't need to receive his just dessert for his actions, but I'm just arguing that he hasn't done anything in a (fairly) lengthy amount of time. I get along with Kholdstare just fine. I see no reason why I can't trust him or defend him. We all have our strikes against us. By the logic of not trusting people who have done something wrong... I shouldn't be trusted, Kholdstare shouldn't be trusted, nor xptek, Crimson, and just about everybody else in the world. Maybe I should care more about being lied to, but at the same time, maybe you shouldn't outcast those who have done wrong. Shouldn't you try and embrace them more, and show them the light, rather than cast them into darkness? Give people a second chance, whether or not they deserve it. I'm not saying forget about what he's done, but just because he did it once doesn't guarantee that he'll do it again. As for not defending you... I probably should have. Though, I didn't feel like having to research the threads and defend what you were saying. As for being lied to.. it's the internet. If it affected me personally, I'd be a little more concerned. Someone online lying to me doesn't have the same effect as a friend lying to me.
This thread is silly.
Quote: Like I demonstrated, one could make a similar argument in the case of cheating. Here, he's insulting me for taking issue with someone DDoS'ing me in a N00bstories Renalert server, saying I should "get over it" and "it happens every day" and whatnot. You could construct a similar scenario with a cheater in a N00bstories server pre-Renguard days. If I complain that so-and-so was cheating in the N00bstories server, and he comes along and says that cheating is an everyday occurrance and that I shouldn't demand anything be done about it, he can't therefore go out and support any action taken against cheaters by-and-large, such as Renguard. We could just use his own arguments against him and tell him to "STFU and read a book" when he's being cheated against in a game instead of supporting him in demanding that something be done about those cheaters. Sure, but if he currently supports Renguard, he would not be a hypocrite. Now, if he DID make that argument regarding cheating, then I could see your point. (Though "Hypocrite" would be the wrong word to use, I see what you are getting at). However, simply drawing a parallel to arguments that could be made regarding other things does not make it his argument; hence why I asked the question. HE didn't make the statement, even though the parallel could be made. Heck, if that's the case, we're all hypocrites because anything we say can be paralleled to something else.
Hydra wrote on Wed, 04 October 2006 10:02 I'm going to admit that I don't know all that much about coding, dynamic IP addresses, IRC bots, server-side scripts, and all that technical kind of crap, but I'm gonna make a few logical assumptions and just go from there. That's your first problem. Hydra wrote on Wed, 04 October 2006 10:02 You say he can change his IP address at will. If I understand basic "hacking" correctly, changing your IP at will is one of the first basic things any budding script kiddie learns how to do. I'm also going to assume that Kholdstare isn't the only person in the entire world who knows how to change his IP address. Are you going to tell me, though, that in all the years previous to Rengaurd's release that you have NEVER, not even ONCE, encountered a cheater who, like Kholdstare, knew how to change his IP address? Are you saying that there has never been a cheater, using Final Renegade or Big Head or whatever, who knew how to change his IP address to evade his bans? Frankly, I find all that a little hard to believe. Well, the RenGuard software sends a little more information to us to make banning easier and NOT dependent on something as easily-changed as an IP. (Unfortunately that doesn't work any more either) My Renegade server only gets a nickname and an IP. Both are easy to change. For the record, all of his normal nicknames are currently banned from my server but all he has to do is make up a name and rejoin and I would never know. Hydra wrote on Wed, 04 October 2006 10:02 I don't even care if there's a permanent way to ban him, though. What I care about is whether or not the N00bstories administration (read: you) actually tries to do something about it. That's good, because I have tried. Hydra wrote on Wed, 04 October 2006 10:02 ... ban him on sight every single time he tries to rejoin. He'd eventually get bored of trying to rejoin only to get banned again, and the problem would subside at least for a while. That might work on someone who doesn't care about Renegade, but it wouldn't work on someone who is both talented at hiding and has been involved in the community for years and isn't going anywhere. Hydra wrote on Wed, 04 October 2006 10:02 What I see coming from you, however, is a lack of any action whatsoever. In fact, you're making excuses for allowing the guy to do whatever the hell he wants. I didn't make excuses. I apologized for my inability to stop him. Hydra wrote on Wed, 04 October 2006 10:02 That's like the police making excuses for the serial convenience store robber who they just can't seem to catch. Sure, the guy may be difficult to catch and extremely good at what he does, but ya know what? The cops have an obligation to society to try to catch that criminal and end his long string of crimes. If I had the power of the police, he'd be in jail along with a few script kiddies. Hydra wrote on Wed, 04 October 2006 10:02 I make that analogy assuming you are not, in fact, in bed with the enemy. If (or should I say "since" based on the mounting evidence against you?) you're really no better than he is, or are in some sort of alliance with him, then I can understand perfectly why you're not doing anything to punish him. I guess you could say the police are corrupt. I'm not the police. I have a lot of power and ability to protect myself and my servers, but there's very very little I can do to protect other people. And I say this knowing a hell of a lot more than you do about these things. MaidenTy1 wrote on Wed, 04 October 2006 10:39 ...to this I'll just briefly add that I said Crimson made that comment - she denied it over and over and over again, then later admitted that she did, in fact, refer to Khold as her "pet bulldog". Yet that's no reason to think I was right in saying that... so keep demanding more evidence to prove what's right in front of you, guys! No, I didn't. I never admitted to calling him that. From reading that thread it seems blatantly obvious that SOMEONE ELSE called him that and you falsely attributed the words to me. I did admit and apologize that I have LIED and inferred that my friendship with him was for my personal gain to hide that I actually like him, but that doesn't change anything one way or another. xptek wrote on Wed, 04 October 2006 13:59 Nah, I was just wondering why you're quoting someone when it has been established that they're not trustworthy at all. That has not been established at all. The few times I have lied were for important reasons, and most of my "transgressions" stem from my being too forgiving and nice. When it comes to actual important things like people's money I am VERY trustworthy and honest. I am entrusted with hundreds of dollars every month by people in this community and I haven't had any of my pseudo-customers (I say pseudo customers because I break even if anything, I'm not in it for profit) back out and in fact I gained a "customer" since this thing started. Furthermore, MANY people have trusted me with the passwords to their servers and I have NEVER breached that trust. If you want to bring real life into this, I run a weekly poker game and the game is growing larger than we want it because of word of mouth. I had 30 players on Friday and I'm trying to get it back down to about 16. If I lacked integrity, my game wouldn't be popular or legal. So for you to say I'm "not trustworthy at all" is very, very false.